MC right before this asked to play NP, literally his best hero, one of the best NP players at that time. Imagine your teammates not trusting you on your best hero as much as you playing like the enemy offlane. When you're already tilted as fuck after 2 terrible games. Even if MC doesn't blame them for it, it's still a terrible thing psychologically speaking
@@vetomcie2319 Ceb said in a video he only played axe with his team once before and during hia ti8, and that was a scrim and he fed so hard that his team lost that scrim despite winning the other two lanes..you can see that from the face or reaction of topias/jerax in ti8 trie sight when he said axe might be really good here, but notail supports him by saying, i really like that idea and they picked. His team mate still doubt/questioned a little bit whether he should cut the lane or not also
For sure. This is just being a bad leader and a bad teammate. This is the most important tournament of your life, you have to lift eachother up and increase morale. Who the fuck plays better with lower morale? Nobody.
Ceb's psychologoy of motivating his teammates and supporting their decisions, compared to Kuro telling his offlaner after 2 awful matches to "play like the enemy offlaner does" 😂😂😂
We all know even before OG win TI , how good ceb motivating and bost morale his team as a coach at kiev major vs VP if i remember correctly...but in other side ceb also toxic in pub game...😂
Yeah he ruined what little chance there was of Kuro picking Furion. Gh and M_C deserve better teammates. Gh is also quiet most of the time maybe due to team heirarchy and then you have Jerax on the opposite team almost like the 3rd captain. Ceb, Jerax and N0tail were so good at calling the plays.
@@EdilbertFernando nah you didnt get me.when kuro said mc to play like ceb .He was kinda offended but miracle tries to put it in a good way. Btw i am OG fan as well. ✌️
@@EdilbertFernando they actually when the game and was stomping until Topson bought the diffusal blade with gyro which fucked them up. Have you even watched the finals???
@@simpleJoee That's a matter of perspective. I feel he just ended up reinforcing his captain's views if not outrightly making them. In fact wasn't Miracle the one who suggested the Omni pick in the first place?
@@banir3736 ...and Jerax says its is all good because their carries (Topson and Ana) got all the space to farm due to Liquid running at them. They dived mid and couldn't even kill the mid tier 1 while Jerax (Tiny) and Ana (Io) killed thier top and bot tier 1. I think you've been watching a different finals...maybe True Shite?
I remember MC standin in NIP in some major and he is outstanding everygame. He leads his team in terms of networth playing offlane almost everygame, what a player meanwhile this kuro guy dont even respect his decision
Honestly it's really hard to control yourself in these situations. MC is always a supportive player for his teammates always tipping and supporting them and this should be a two-way relationship. Kuro was angry and wanted to blame someone and who else but MC. Much respect for MC who didn't make the situation worse by questioning Kuro's draft or leadership. Anyway, it's always hard to judge anyone in heated moments of his life.
Agreed. Even the best of friends can blame each other from time to time at heated moments. As ceb put it on the latest redbull documentary "It's not that I doesn't affect me, I just don't let it control me". Still very hard to control your words and actions when you're getting demotivated
but honestly, this rough discussion was gave the best output, beside the io aghs & gyro D-blade things. that moments was like when ceb talks bout OG won tactically even not winning the game (after game first - "its a win in my book")
Topson really carried that one Diffusal omni was unheard of before this shit. Now ppl build it to couter shit like dusa like its nothing. Topson really redefining dota with these situational builds. Mans a legend, OG so lucky to have picked this guy up the guy literally handed OG this TI
@@andrewgilmour3104 yeah but miracle- and kuroky let them to pick it, because if they could win that game with io they maybe could win everything, just like what team spirit DO, they let PSG LGD to pick their strongest draft with tiny lycan and they break it!
Yeah imagine kuro asking and giving the whole team what they wanted to play then MC got asked and wanted NP then got denied and then told to play omni like ceb. That's the mistake kuro made, he destroyed their morale by playing the same strat 3 games in a row and then destroyed MC mentally
Objectively ceb was the best offlaner during this time so it does make sense to copy how he plays. I mean people tried to copy ana's IO. The wording, and timing were just awful and wrong. I say kuro should have retired and just went into coaching after this finals.
But kuro is like the biggest noob in competitive dota nowadays, don’t get me wrong, the dude was good b4 just not anymore , same to Dendi , sad but fact
Hands down MC play style influenced alot of my plays...! His Dark Seer is My holy grail. Here MC was frustrated clearly... he has no voice in this draft.
@@KidTrigger idk when u said he play worst, when u get a hero that countered already in draft phase. and yet your team ask u to play it like ur hero is not countered by the enemy, to make it worst ask u to be some1 else and deny ur own self. gh hav my pity there.
After MC have terrible 2 games, i think kuro should have encourage MC that its fine and we will do our best next game or something, rather than telling MC to copy Ceb's playstyle. Its almost feel like kuro is saying that MC's playstyle isnt good enough.
That's how you break your whole teams mentality, MC played like a god in the lower bracket and gets that line spit into his face. Theres no guy who can tell me that it didnt destroy his mentality for the last game
Just search for Notails twitch, probably the most recent vod and i dont think he has subcribers only(which is very nice) for previous vods so you can watch most of his stuff.
Kuro just cracked under that pressure, and I think the grief he's gotten since has really affected his performances. They didn't make TI10 last year and are poised to be relegated to Div 2 after going 0-6
I don't think that Kuroky meant that MC should be more like Ceb as a player, but rather to imitate Ceb's playstyle on this one hero (Omniknight), who Ceb is very experienced on and MC isn't. It came across very poorly though.
Now MC stand-in for OG, shining like never had a chance before. Now we all understand how Kuro was the most toxic, self-centered, egoistic player he was. Such a failure leader.
it would have been better if it was someone else, after watching TI10 true sight, seeing the conversation for the game 5 of Team Spirit where they talk about Terrorblade yatoro playing like Matumbaman, it really hits different. Kuro was definitely toxic, intentional or not
@@kusog3 yep the difference was pretty clear, yatoro looked up at matu as he was impressed by his build, while kuro suggested mc to play like ceb do….because he wasn’t good enough compared to the opposing offlaners? on top of that, it’s bad when you try to copy the enemy common strats because they actually know how their strats works and its weaknesses, so of course OG knew how to counter liquid at that time. (take example of tiny-lycan strat by lgd when secret played vs spirit)
Dumbest thing on this was kuro said it's the typical TI game. Play what you want and what you feel like. And then proceeds to force his picks on his team mate. W33 didn't wanna play soo much hero they picked and MC. Compare this on OG asking if they feel like playing x Hero
@@dekhmoi252 even he turned down coach’s suggestions. Miracle wanted ember -> denied rmn predicted Tiny-Void -> denied again MC wanted NP - > denied as well yea i guess liquid didn’t have their other comfort strats beside Tide-TA. I guess the main problem was there were limited hero choices for Miracle, Lesh was always banned in the 1st phase and w33 didn’t have wide hero pool so OG tried to limit Miracle’s hero choices and Liquid sticked with TA-Tide 3 games straight that cost them the game.
I dont think kuro mean any bad thing for MC, maybe MC never play offlane omni before so kuro ask to play omni to steal OG strat. Kuro also known to copy other people strat and I don't think omni offlane is something ussual
I personally don't think what kuro said is necessarily bad. They were copying OG strats throughout that TI (e.g. Alchemist / DS combo), im pretty sure that they mentioned "lets play like OG" during team discussions a bunch of times. That said, that the wording / instruction can be clearer. Instead of just* saying "please play like ceb", he should give more directions to describe how ceb plays (exactly what Miracle did). I feel that MC's "what" response is not a defensive reaction, he is genuinely confused as to how to play like ceb. If anything, I feel that Miracle is actually one of the best team mate to have. He was so positive and constantly trying to think of a way to win.
@@cnaizhen he played really badly on the first two games, he just wanted a hero he was confident with. With that level of pressure on your shoulders, just playing your best hero and being confident in yourself could have a chance of changing the game outcome
@@apolloxlix679 hmm, their comfort picks are either banned or countered. I dont think NP was their comfort pick going into that TI though (might be wrong, its too long ago haha)
@@cnaizhen MC was confident on NP because he had a terrific NP game on a major (i dont remember which one sadly) and, as said before, since he was underperforming in the last games, i think he just wanted a comfort pick, a hero he knows how to utilize and, again, confident on maybe in order to redeem himself
MC is a god player but kuro's decision making is the reason why they lost not MC's playstyle. He needs to retire ASAP he's too washed for the meta anyway.
I've never been much of an og fan. But this maybe one of the reasons why nigma is now spiraling down. Jesus being asked to play like someone else? Moreover someone in the enemy booth right now? That's gotta be demotivating man. Why not ask him to play like the mind control prophet during ti7.
agree, !! Kuro leader no listen teammate, no idea of draft hero even all teammate warning him. MC if you read this. You really best offlane enough. Go out of kuro command, be yourself. Let play slardar as you were , more aggressive and running the game. Stop care about Kuro say. I cheer you. i love u play slardar.
i think matubaman needs to be kicked team agrees they bring in w33 i think w33 is bad team agrees the bring in iltw lets swap iltw with fata yea no its just koro and his drafts
@@epicthemedmelodymusic4993 bro, it's the same shit about w33 become 6th player on Nigma before he joining Alliance For sure iltw Will be kicked out soon
You dont need to be a car mechanic to change your car's tyre, same is the case with dota. You cant beat the pros obviously, but you can make judgements from observations. There is nothing wrong with that
gotta love seeing all the 0$ earning animals, and I'm not talking about dota here kekw, shitting on kuro in the comments when you in his place would've probably passed out on the way to the stage
@@rdcruick There was no other way to say it.. come on man, kuroky was rough because it was a rough time. kuroky did what he had to do. nothing wrong here.
@@potpolima you dont be rough on your teammates because you have a rough game, you boost their morale, keep their spirits up. Even if they played a bad game, you encourage them, not insult them, especially when you're tilted. "Lets try this play, try to be aggressive, lets try to do this and that" instead of "try to play like the enemy offlane" is a better way of saying it. Lowering your player's morale just because they had shitty games is a lame ass excuse
@@apolloxlix679 Thats the different being a leader or boss. Leader should have elevate their teammate morale, but kky doing the opposite. Sadly not many ppl can see this, even after nigma fall those ppl might still blaming other than kky for bad performance.
MC right before this asked to play NP, literally his best hero, one of the best NP players at that time. Imagine your teammates not trusting you on your best hero as much as you playing like the enemy offlane. When you're already tilted as fuck after 2 terrible games. Even if MC doesn't blame them for it, it's still a terrible thing psychologically speaking
@Belle ♪ ty
if they picked NP against timber. there is no way they can win. omni is thr best pick against og here. the last pick IO caught them offguard tho
@@greg4700 IO first pick
@@ombus2143 yea but they thought it was a support. so its kinda last pick
@@greg4700 no OG pick timber cause of BB..if they pick NP..OG draft will change
Compare this to TI8 OG supporting Ceb when he wants the Axe pick after the 0-13-0 scrim lol
0-13-0 ? Which game was that, before the axe game he played wyverns and was 5-8-8 oO
@@vetomcie2319 ruclips.net/video/dkiqhVxXc8A/видео.html
@@vetomcie2319 scrim
and his axe carried the team, even when invo mid was losing a lot.
@@vetomcie2319 Ceb said in a video he only played axe with his team once before and during hia ti8, and that was a scrim and he fed so hard that his team lost that scrim despite winning the other two lanes..you can see that from the face or reaction of topias/jerax in ti8 trie sight when he said axe might be really good here, but notail supports him by saying, i really like that idea and they picked. His team mate still doubt/questioned a little bit whether he should cut the lane or not also
Kuroky shouldn't said that. MC is broken inside out after that.
For sure. This is just being a bad leader and a bad teammate. This is the most important tournament of your life, you have to lift eachother up and increase morale.
Who the fuck plays better with lower morale? Nobody.
@@rdcruick thats the reason why miracle interrupted n tryin to neutralized boomer kuro speech.
@@rdcruickkuro made a mistake that was bad leadership moment but shouldn’t define him.
@@horse-4598 It doesn't define him as a person, but it defines this critical moment in the biggest tournament of his life.
Ceb's psychologoy of motivating his teammates and supporting their decisions, compared to Kuro telling his offlaner after 2 awful matches to "play like the enemy offlaner does" 😂😂😂
You're absolutely right. Ceb being an unstoppable positive force on his team's mental state quite likely won them their 1st TI.
Ceb is great motivator. He said one time that he even he sometimes don't believe what he's saying or that they can win but he has to hype the team.
We all know even before OG win TI , how good ceb motivating and bost morale his team as a coach at kiev major vs VP if i remember correctly...but in other side ceb also toxic in pub game...😂
He couldve said a better term than play like ceb.
More than rough, that's an insult. This is destructive, destroying MC's game play and mindset rather than a wakeup call to do better. 😶
Agree, such a bad call and leadership from kuro
Exactly, especially after MC had 2 terrible games
I like how miracle tries to covers it up 😌
Yeah he ruined what little chance there was of Kuro picking Furion. Gh and M_C deserve better teammates. Gh is also quiet most of the time maybe due to team heirarchy and then you have Jerax on the opposite team almost like the 3rd captain. Ceb, Jerax and N0tail were so good at calling the plays.
@@EdilbertFernando nah you didnt get me.when kuro said mc to play like ceb .He was kinda offended but miracle tries to put it in a good way. Btw i am OG fan as well. ✌️
@@EdilbertFernando they actually when the game and was stomping until Topson bought the diffusal blade with gyro which fucked them up. Have you even watched the finals???
@@simpleJoee That's a matter of perspective. I feel he just ended up reinforcing his captain's views if not outrightly making them. In fact wasn't Miracle the one who suggested the Omni pick in the first place?
@@banir3736 ...and Jerax says its is all good because their carries (Topson and Ana) got all the space to farm due to Liquid running at them. They dived mid and couldn't even kill the mid tier 1 while Jerax (Tiny) and Ana (Io) killed thier top and bot tier 1. I think you've been watching a different finals...maybe True Shite?
I remember MC standin in NIP in some major and he is outstanding everygame.
He leads his team in terms of networth playing offlane almost everygame, what a player meanwhile this kuro guy dont even respect his decision
Honestly it's really hard to control yourself in these situations. MC is always a supportive player for his teammates always tipping and supporting them and this should be a two-way relationship. Kuro was angry and wanted to blame someone and who else but MC. Much respect for MC who didn't make the situation worse by questioning Kuro's draft or leadership. Anyway, it's always hard to judge anyone in heated moments of his life.
kuros leadership, lmao
Agreed. Even the best of friends can blame each other from time to time at heated moments. As ceb put it on the latest redbull documentary "It's not that I doesn't affect me, I just don't let it control me".
Still very hard to control your words and actions when you're getting demotivated
but honestly, this rough discussion was gave the best output, beside the io aghs & gyro D-blade things.
that moments was like when ceb talks bout OG won tactically even not winning the game (after game first - "its a win in my book")
I would say Liquid played well in TI9 Game 4. It's just the Gyro Diffusal pickup was godly and completely countered Bristleback and Omni.
Topson really carried that one Diffusal omni was unheard of before this shit. Now ppl build it to couter shit like dusa like its nothing. Topson really redefining dota with these situational builds. Mans a legend, OG so lucky to have picked this guy up the guy literally handed OG this TI
also io is was just broken couldn't do anything to counter it once it get online
@@andrewgilmour3104 yeah but miracle- and kuroky let them to pick it, because if they could win that game with io they maybe could win everything, just like what team spirit DO, they let PSG LGD to pick their strongest draft with tiny lycan and they break it!
@@whyimustusemyrealname3801 LGD deserve to lose for not respecting Magnus god after so many insane plays in TI scene
@@Zer-us4wq everyone praising magnus but have you watch bane and ember... Miposhka insane warding helps them win and dodge ganks..
As someone who played a lot with german players, in tier2/3 teams, trust me when i say that they dont know words like supportive or encouragement.
Another way to put it, ist that they are not used to sugarcoat everything. It´s a very direct culture.
i always skip this part when i watch TI9 true sight
Same bro. It's just too hard to watch
this one was like asian mom, "see next door son?, why can't u be like him"
Yeah imagine kuro asking and giving the whole team what they wanted to play then MC got asked and wanted NP then got denied and then told to play omni like ceb. That's the mistake kuro made, he destroyed their morale by playing the same strat 3 games in a row and then destroyed MC mentally
3x same hero which is tidehunter can make you tilt coz you dont want to play that hero anymore.
Now mc can ask kuroky to play pos 5 as Ceb!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
And youtube suggest this again after i watched Mc having fun in OG team. Welll
And he took that personally. He's really playing like Ceb now, as a standin for OG 😂
i felt the pain and anger 😭 "and what does he do?"
MC should have said
I need you to draft like OG did and listen to your team mates
MindControl's mind is being controlled
Objectively ceb was the best offlaner during this time so it does make sense to copy how he plays. I mean people tried to copy ana's IO.
The wording, and timing were just awful and wrong. I say kuro should have retired and just went into coaching after this finals.
yea, he couldve just said like play this kind of playstyle instead of mentioning ceb.
But kuro is like the biggest noob in competitive dota nowadays, don’t get me wrong, the dude was good b4 just not anymore , same to Dendi , sad but fact
@zxc dendi now is rank 700 or smoething so far to competitive, legend already need to retire from pro scene dota
everyone needs to feed the kuro's ego, thats why ngma on losing streak rn
Why does it give me the feeling that Kuro treats his teammates like pawns
and later
Kuro: w33 u play like topson
W33: sorry, i only play TA
Can only imagine how mc felt
Feelsbadman
Please notail make MC your official offlaner of OG.
That’s indirectly broke your teammates’s confidence , it’s should come out from his mouth after 2 rough games and he is a captain
Hands down MC play style influenced alot of my plays...! His Dark Seer is My holy grail.
Here MC was frustrated clearly... he has no voice in this draft.
aw its like they blaming him for losing the first 2
He did play the worst imo in that series
@@KidTrigger i miss u
@@shan49618 miss me from where?
His tide was tilted and they tilted him more on this last game lol
@@KidTrigger idk when u said he play worst, when u get a hero that countered already in draft phase.
and yet your team ask u to play it like ur hero is not countered by the enemy, to make it worst ask u to be some1 else and deny ur own self.
gh hav my pity there.
MC should said: And I want you to play like Notail
Now you know. MC should play like MC and that's it
Mind-Contol
I wonder why MC didn't leave Kuro
That's just sad
omfg i didnt see this moment how rude kky miracle tried to cover this shit up
After this, we can see Kuro in his interview of being guilty, sorry and ashamed for his treatment of MC.
The way kuro said it sounded so bad, but I think he didn’t mean to insult. I think MC was right when he said they needed to change draft in game 3.
Right after Stockholm Major, MC asks Kuro to play position 5 like Ceb.
After MC have terrible 2 games, i think kuro should have encourage MC that its fine and we will do our best next game or something, rather than telling MC to copy Ceb's playstyle. Its almost feel like kuro is saying that MC's playstyle isnt good enough.
pipe hype = the villain
That's how you break your whole teams mentality, MC played like a god in the lower bracket and gets that line spit into his face. Theres no guy who can tell me that it didnt destroy his mentality for the last game
guys chill it was 3 years ago. and nigma still damaged hehe
What does it mean by picking Ember 15?
picks and bans goes by numbers. So we have 4 bans first, than pick 5 - means first pick and so on.
Link to watch this video/stream in full?
Just search for Notails twitch, probably the most recent vod and i dont think he has subcribers only(which is very nice) for previous vods so you can watch most of his stuff.
know who ruins the team is Kuro lmao
No sugarcoating and all that sh!t. What happened was that OG just got Nigma's number the entire series period
How kuro lead
Kuro just cracked under that pressure, and I think the grief he's gotten since has really affected his performances. They didn't make TI10 last year and are poised to be relegated to Div 2 after going 0-6
I don't think that Kuroky meant that MC should be more like Ceb as a player, but rather to imitate Ceb's playstyle on this one hero (Omniknight), who Ceb is very experienced on and MC isn't.
It came across very poorly though.
Just so Fcking bad, kuro bro. So many red flags.
Now MC stand-in for OG, shining like never had a chance before. Now we all understand how Kuro was the most toxic, self-centered, egoistic player he was. Such a failure leader.
Really kuro? Like 7 mad? Really!?
When your CAPtain told you, to play like somebody else... Isn't that toxic? 🤔
it would have been better if it was someone else, after watching TI10 true sight, seeing the conversation for the game 5 of Team Spirit where they talk about Terrorblade yatoro playing like Matumbaman, it really hits different.
Kuro was definitely toxic, intentional or not
@@kusog3 yep the difference was pretty clear, yatoro looked up at matu as he was impressed by his build, while kuro suggested mc to play like ceb do….because he wasn’t good enough compared to the opposing offlaners?
on top of that, it’s bad when you try to copy the enemy common strats because they actually know how their strats works and its weaknesses, so of course OG knew how to counter liquid at that time. (take example of tiny-lycan strat by lgd when secret played vs spirit)
sounds like what my therapist would said
Miracle is wasting his youth on kuro
Dumbest thing on this was kuro said it's the typical TI game. Play what you want and what you feel like. And then proceeds to force his picks on his team mate. W33 didn't wanna play soo much hero they picked and MC. Compare this on OG asking if they feel like playing x Hero
I dont blame kuro but the way mc said okay feels like he's not that confident. Having an uncomfortable hero to play in grand final is nightmare tbh
You must blame Kuro. He has to know how bad he draft and no listen to teammate
@@dekhmoi252 nah truesight did him badly
@@dekhmoi252 even he turned down coach’s suggestions.
Miracle wanted ember -> denied
rmn predicted Tiny-Void -> denied again
MC wanted NP - > denied as well
yea i guess liquid didn’t have their other comfort strats beside Tide-TA. I guess the main problem was there were limited hero choices for Miracle, Lesh was always banned in the 1st phase and w33 didn’t have wide hero pool so OG tried to limit Miracle’s hero choices and Liquid sticked with TA-Tide 3 games straight that cost them the game.
I dont think kuro mean any bad thing for MC, maybe MC never play offlane omni before so kuro ask to play omni to steal OG strat. Kuro also known to copy other people strat and I don't think omni offlane is something ussual
Bruh, your intention and your way of expressing it are 2 different things.
I personally don't think what kuro said is necessarily bad. They were copying OG strats throughout that TI (e.g. Alchemist / DS combo), im pretty sure that they mentioned "lets play like OG" during team discussions a bunch of times.
That said, that the wording / instruction can be clearer. Instead of just* saying "please play like ceb", he should give more directions to describe how ceb plays (exactly what Miracle did). I feel that MC's "what" response is not a defensive reaction, he is genuinely confused as to how to play like ceb.
If anything, I feel that Miracle is actually one of the best team mate to have. He was so positive and constantly trying to think of a way to win.
He should have just said play omni agressive instead of saying play like enemy offlaner. He also requested his favorite hero but was denied.
@@Doflaminguard Agree fully with the first part. On the part where MC's request was denied, i think its part of drafting discussion isnt it?
@@cnaizhen he played really badly on the first two games, he just wanted a hero he was confident with. With that level of pressure on your shoulders, just playing your best hero and being confident in yourself could have a chance of changing the game outcome
@@apolloxlix679 hmm, their comfort picks are either banned or countered. I dont think NP was their comfort pick going into that TI though (might be wrong, its too long ago haha)
@@cnaizhen MC was confident on NP because he had a terrific NP game on a major (i dont remember which one sadly) and, as said before, since he was underperforming in the last games, i think he just wanted a comfort pick, a hero he knows how to utilize and, again, confident on maybe in order to redeem himself
MC is a god player but kuro's decision making is the reason why they lost not MC's playstyle. He needs to retire ASAP he's too washed for the meta anyway.
That's dirty
I've never been much of an og fan. But this maybe one of the reasons why nigma is now spiraling down. Jesus being asked to play like someone else? Moreover someone in the enemy booth right now? That's gotta be demotivating man. Why not ask him to play like the mind control prophet during ti7.
this is so weird that when i heard this it didn't trigger alarm bells cuz asian parents always tell u to be like xx's son looooooooool
MC was so done here LMAO
This was just demoralizing to MC man. This was just sad to watch.
I think mc is quite good player he could do so much more if he move on from kuroky
nigma needs a new captain. you can see how kuro treated his teammates at ti7
agree, !!
Kuro leader no listen teammate, no idea of draft hero even all teammate warning him. MC if you read this. You really best offlane enough. Go out of kuro command, be yourself. Let play slardar as you were , more aggressive and running the game. Stop care about Kuro say. I cheer you. i love u play slardar.
Well that's why kuroky was never a good captain just had a beast team
MC and miracle and gh need to leave his team
TLDR kick kuro
Tell that to Kuro, if he actually listen to the fans' s opinion
They can't get free flight from emirates anymore 😢
this guys need to be at the top again, they need to leave kuroky asap
@@nguyentuanhaiphpng8172 he didnt even listen to his coach
I would just feed in the ti final on main stage and enjoy my day rather than following a bullshit captain
Kuroky is a joke… You let your best players play what they want and you need to have complete trust in them.
Thats why he didnt win ti's, and lost alot of money and respect. Arrogance, and not trusting your teammates brings u this.
This is just pure cringefest. Miracle- butting in just made it more awkward than a 90's MTV reality dating show. Urrrgghhh....
Kuroky is the problem
Sad but true
Kuro is the problem here
Kuroky is the worst captain in the history, and this is the evidence
Miracle wasting his talent. He should play with Execration instead
miracle qojqva and ceb needs to make a new team together!!!
i think matubaman needs to be kicked team agrees they bring in w33 i think w33 is bad team agrees the bring in iltw lets swap iltw with fata yea no its just koro and his drafts
bro iltw took break i think
@@epicthemedmelodymusic4993 for sure
iltw having hard time getting supported by a clown
@@epicthemedmelodymusic4993 bro, it's the same shit about w33 become 6th player on Nigma before he joining Alliance
For sure iltw Will be kicked out soon
Yea man I really hate how full potential of Mc gh and miracle is being held back by one guys mentality
Just here to read all the Heralds commenting on which TI winner needs to retire/is washed, etc.
You dont need to be a car mechanic to change your car's tyre, same is the case with dota. You cant beat the pros obviously, but you can make judgements from observations. There is nothing wrong with that
gotta love seeing all the 0$ earning animals, and I'm not talking about dota here kekw, shitting on kuro in the comments when you in his place would've probably passed out on the way to the stage
It doesn't change the fact that Kuro's request was a low blow
perhaps I was adding insult to injury there but who knows
Dude Dota is toxic in so many levels, not only for pub players like me.
kuroky was trying to switch tactics because their strat aint working.. MCs ego was hurt but he had to follow his leader.. I see nothing wrong here.
It's how it was said. They are destroying MC's mental state, which always causes people to play worse.
@@rdcruick There was no other way to say it.. come on man, kuroky was rough because it was a rough time. kuroky did what he had to do. nothing wrong here.
@@potpolima you dont be rough on your teammates because you have a rough game, you boost their morale, keep their spirits up. Even if they played a bad game, you encourage them, not insult them, especially when you're tilted. "Lets try this play, try to be aggressive, lets try to do this and that" instead of "try to play like the enemy offlane" is a better way of saying it. Lowering your player's morale just because they had shitty games is a lame ass excuse
@@apolloxlix679 Thats the different being a leader or boss. Leader should have elevate their teammate morale, but kky doing the opposite. Sadly not many ppl can see this, even after nigma fall those ppl might still blaming other than kky for bad performance.
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Kuro thinks he is godly but the worst player in nigma right noe skillwise outdated drafts aswell
ceb and kuro pretty alike, they did really good at laning, after got some item and blink, they go straight to teamfight
Guys, hear me out. Kuro has a big EGO problem.