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Wins are worth 3 points, draws are worth 1 point, and losses are worth 0 points. The two teams with the most points in the standings are promoted to the Premier League, so having only 8 points after 8 games is a bad thing for Richmond. Even if they had 3 wins and 5 losses, they'd have more points than they do after 8 draws.
There are also play-offs for teams placed 3-6. I believe 3rd team plays against 6th team and 4th teams plays against 5th team and the winners of these semifinals are playing in a final with the winner getting 3rd and last promotion to Premier League
I love Dr. Sharon's small arc in this episode. She's strict with Ted about not calling her "Doc" because she doesn't know him well enough to tell if it's a genuine casual nickname for a respected colleague or a way to dismiss the legitimacy of her profession. As a woman of color in her field, a white male head coach being genuinely welcoming to her is probably about as common as a snowball in hell. She allows him the nickname, and the personal icebreaker information, once she's seen enough of him in the workplace to know that he's being genuine. Or at least, that he's treating her exactly the same as his colleagues. Chefs kiss.
Thank you for including this insight. It's something that a lot of (white) reactors miss, and it's not their fault-- just their privilege, but in doing so they misattribute Dr. Sharon's motivations.
Nate is doing the exact same thing he did in season one when he "fired up" the team. You saw it as him firing them up, when he actually meant every word he said and he just said that. Now however he has power, and thinks those in power can do stuff, so he's being himself with Will and others.
'doesn't eat sugar' - 'what a F-ing a-hole' - always cracks me up! 😃 Coach Kent's antics always makes me giggle! 'What usually do with yer lashes' - 'I leave 'em the F alone' - LoL! 😃
Football at this level for better or worse is a business that involves 100s of millions of dollars. And its ultimately a results based business where you need to win. So I think its partly just Ted realizing that they need Jamie to win rather than wanting to impart a particular lesson.
I think Sharon also echoed Beards' words from last season and that's why Ted acted. Sure, it won't go over well at first, but if the team is mid at best the job of the coach is to find ways of improvement. I think not doing anything would have boiled over at the end regardless.
@@bereasonable8018 yeah before, but that changed after roy's whole arc in season 1 (with beard's help). we saw him get benched which is ted's way of choosing to make the practical choice for the team
Roy became my favorite character probably by the 3rd episode when he was at the school and then learning that he's the main character in a Wrinkle in Time and faced off against Jamie.
I don't think it's really clear if Ted spoke with the team about Jamie coming back but I get the impression that he did. It just seems like they weren't surprised to see him when he ran out onto the pitch, but they weren't happy. But as the manager I wouldn't expect that it's something he has to talk to the team about.
It just presents a really odd, confounding delivery to the audience: Sam and by extension the rest of the Greyhounds were reassured by Ted explicitly that Jaime was not welcome back, but without enough context he reverses without reconciling his initial reassurance If I’m being generous, I speculate whether Ted informed the players or not, the writers had him wanting them to be upset with him rather than Jaime; but the final edit just delivers a huge swing such that Ted presents really dishonest especially since he got Sam to be so vulnerable and contrite
I would like to believe your interpretation -- that Ted did talk to the team first. Because while no, he's not REQUIRED to talk to the team first, the culture of trust that Ted goes to so much effort to establish would necessitate that after reassuring Sam that Jamie wasn't returning, he would then notify everyone that he'd changed his mind, rather than surprise them. I love this series (I consider Season 1 an almost perfect season of TV), but in seasons 2 & 3 it does get a little too fond of surprise reveals to the viewing audience, sometimes at the expense of the carefully established traits of the characters.
“The term soccer comes from Oxford "-er" slang, which was prevalent at the University of Oxford in England from about 1875, and is thought to have been borrowed from the slang of Rugby School. Initially spelled assoccer, it was later reduced to the modern spelling.[11] This form of slang also gave rise to rugger for rugby football, fiver and tenner for five pound and ten pound notes, and the now-archaic footer that was also a name for association football.[12] The word soccer arrived at its final form in 1895 and was first recorded in 1889 in the earlier form of socca.[13]”
Ted doesn’t come from high school. He comes from Division II. He coached at Wichita State, where I work. We don’t actually have a football team having lost a portion of it in a plane crash, but it furthers Ted’s Kansas connection.
Little fun side note, Brett Goldstein (Roy) plays Hercules in Thor Love and Thunder, AND Cristo Fernández (Danny Rojas) plays the barman that speaks to Venom at the end in Spider Man No Way Home.
The way I understand it, 'soccer' is short for 'association football', and is upper class Oxford slang. 'Rugby' is short for 'rugby football', which is the other branch of the sport. Rugby football has two main variants internationally, and then American football is an offshoot of that again. So, rugby football is usually just rugby these days. Association football is either known as soccer or football, depending on where you are. And then American football is a child of rugby football. EDIT: Wikipedia claims American football evolved from both soccer and rugby, not just one of them. In that sense, keeping only "football" from their names makes sense.
Also, slightly unrelated but the Oxford slang thing where they shorten words and add -er (asSOCiation to SOCcer like you pointed out) is where the British slang for fivers and tenners come from.
And there's an unverified belief that games are called Football not because they are played WITH your feet(Like some many American Football haters like to claim, though Rugby already disproves them), but those played ON you feet, as opposed to on Horseback.
The Twitter thing about Ted's mustache having an account is a reference to how there was an actual account made for the NHL coach Joel Quenville's mustache.
Soccer Saturday is the show that follows the 3pm Saturday matches, aka the ones that are not shown on TV due to an archaic law that prevents live football being shown between 2:45 and 5:15 on a Saturday.
Soccer comes from Association Football, Rugby was Rugby Foorball... and the NFL is Gridiron Football. Soccer was the most popular of them all in England and just became Football, same reason why Gridiron Football is just Football here in the States. But when 'Association Football' came to America, England was calling it Soccer... so that name stuck here. (And I think in Canada as well?)
All of these characters are great. Premier League Futbol is amazing to watch. Easy to learn and follow passionately. That clip about grandma having wheels is testament to the absolutely amazing sense of humor British culture has.
Yes, soccer and rugby were both referred to as "football" in the late 1800s in England. To differentiate them they were named by their rule sets: Rugby Rules/Association Rules, and informally called "Rugger" and "Soccer." Once soccer became much more popular and widespread, it won the "Football" title in the hearts, minds, and kidney pie-holes of English sports fans - but because of the burgeoning popularity of American football (very similar at the time to rugby) around the the same time, rugby never took hold in the US, while "Soccer" did - BUT because our own brand of "Football" took off domestically, it got that moniker, so the British transition away from "Soccer" was not matched here.
Keeley has just explained why the 4 of you pick up some new, loyal followers: not just by being knowledgeable at video games and media, but because you show a full range of emotion plus vulnerability. Although every thing in TL is thought out meticulously, there are the rare things that are obviously done for dramatic effect more than how Ted would choose to do them in real life. Jamie's appearance on the field is the main one. We all would like to think that they had a team discussion about it beforehand, but either way the dramatic reveal was too juicy to pass up - at least for the audience. (It's always bugged me that the angle is wrong for them to be watching Jamie come out of the locker room from Rebecca's office). I'm going to suggest that Ted Lasson be the first series that you RE-watch, because you will be amazed at how it improves and deepens with each re-watch.
@@Lightningrod75 I agree that Higgins was aware... but I also agree that Ted didn't tell the team (which especially after the conversation with Sam in the locker room) which you think he WOULD have. But yeah, the reveal at the end of the episode in this case seems to trump the logical progression in the story. Fortunately, I don't see that being the case hardly at all
I don’t think Holly & Phil were laughing at Gino because of the “village bike” implication, but rather because it’s simply not a very common expression and it totally took them by surprise. It was just a great, out of left-field putdown.
Yeeeah Eric sorta got it but I was gonna say, Soccer certainly wasn't what it was called first, even though the term did originate in England before the US. It was a simple oxford slang for association football. I'm pretty sure there were 'football' clubs in the US before soccer caught on a lot more. Then with the rise of American football there's just no reason to drop the Soccer anymore. But what tends to happen with Trans-Atlantic English, is us Brits may have used it first a long time ago but then we moved on and the US didn't get the memo xD.
It's also not just the US. Australia calls it soccer too. There are some historians that argue that brits simply stopped using "soccer" to distance themselves from other countries, not that other countries "didn't get the memo". They say your literature commonly interchanged soccer and football well into the 1980s.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba It's possible, but it doesn't 'feel' like that's the case. I always got the impression it was always 'football' among the working class, and once amateur soccer died out professional football remained.
The tv presenters cracking up with laughter are Phillip Schofield and Holly Willoughby. They’ve had an ‘interesting’ year or two. Sex scandal, kidnap plot, and… queue jumping .
Snarky Nate 😮 Ted doesn’t need to tell the team. I think he told Rebecca, beard and Nate, guess when Ted called Jamie to come back it was under certain conditions. He knows Ted is looking out for him after the soldier he gave him.
Soccer is short hand for association football. Football was used to describe a bunch of different games, including early rugby, but association football, or soccer, was an early attempt to establish an official league with a unified ruleset.
Some English university campus called it 'rugger' (Rugby Football) and 'assoccer' (Association Football) to distinguish the sports. since they where both football (also reason American 'football'). assoccer got shortened to soccer and spread. but with Rugby getting more commonly known as Rugby and left the football behind 'Association Football' started changing course to leave the Association behind and called it football. the short term soccer disappeared except in counties where there was another type of football still named that way.
It seems this one was Rick’s final episode. I’m curious why he dropped the show, or if he just watched it on his own. Funny thing is I actually took a long break after this episode too to check out S1 reactions.
It was football first, then came rugby football, and you also have gaelic football and American football, and Australian rules football. The countries that have other types of football, call association football "soccer". It was just a short word to differentiate it from other forms of football, but soccer was always first called football.
I have to set the record straight about Soccer vs. football and it's origin because it is a little more complicated. And yes, I know - they will never ever ever read this because they don't have people reading comments - everyone maybe remembers the AOE S5 debacle where they thought Deek was FitzSimmons son even thought the comment section were screaming at them. So Football or Soccer has been around for centuries. It was originally called Football (not soccer) in England - not because it was a game played WITH your foot but ON your feet (a slang used by rich people for all sports played ON your feet). The high rich people only played sports or horseback (fx polo or hunting foxes). The reason the game originates from England is because that is where it was standardizes - as in rules was written down. It was called "Association Football". However around the same time another game was popular - Rugby and their name "Rugby Football". The British had to tell the two games from another so "Association Football" became Soccer and "Rugby Football" became Football. This carried over into America where the game of "Rugby Football" evolved into "American Football" and Soccer stayed Soccer. Like in sooooo many other areas the World moved on and adapted while the US kept stuck in their ways. So while you can blame the British for the initial naming of the two sports - the US are ultimately to blame for being ridiculously rigid and stubborn to change even though they are wrong. So the different ruleset you are taking about is Rugby vs. Football (European Football).¨ Had the British made a different naming choice back then you would be calling Soccer, Football and American Football would be called American Rugby - as it should be.
The British still used 'soccer' into 1980s. You didn't move on as soon as you think. It's also not just the US. Football is called soccer in several other countries. Japan, Canada, Australia, Ireland, South Africa, etc.. It's not simply a matter of being rigid and stubborn. Almost all these regions had other forms of competing forms of football/rugby, which resulted in football being called soccer to differentiate them. There are also countries where either is acceptable like Singapore, Philippines, and Puerto Rico. In some, soccer is the more common term even if both are used. So you're right. It is more complicated, and even more complicated than that.
The end of the episode presents a really odd, confounding delivery to the audience: Sam and by extension the rest of the Greyhounds were reassured by Ted explicitly that Jaime was not welcome back, but without enough context he reverses without reconciling his initial reassurance If I’m being generous, I speculate whether Ted informed the players or not, the writers had him wanting them to be upset with him rather than Jaime; but the final edit just seems delivers a huge swing such that Ted presents really dishonest, especially since he had Sam so vulnerable and contrite earlier
Sorry but Fútbol start in England in 1857 or in my country Spain in 1870 where it was always called football or the Spanish translation as it was called at the beginning in 1870 in Spanish balón pie foot ball The first American football team was founded in 1920 Seventy years later 😅
Its Association Football and Rugby Football. The "soc" from Association was turned into Soccer. Of course later down people just called Rugby football, Rugby so association football just kept football. American Football is just Rugby with protection (I don't know the rules of either outside of in rugby you can't throw the ball forward)
Association Football --> football & assoc --> asoccer --> soccer. Football is older, but the word soccer has been around for a long time. It fell out of use in the UK a while ago. Association Football rules were first codified in 1863, the word soccer has been around since the late 1800s.
He's wrong. The original name was "Association Football" to differentiate between "Rugby Football". It can easily be divined that the term "Soccer" is derived from the word "Association", so clearly the term soccer cannot predate the term football.
@@HombreGermany I'm not 100% on the details myself, but I think it's something to do with how she acts behind the scenes. And it wasn't helped by the queue-jumping thing. She didn't come out looking squeaky clean basically.
Soccer isn’t the “original” name for it, but rather a slang name from posh English schools. Football is a short-hand way of say “Association Football” which is the full name of the sport, and distinguishes it from “Rugby Football” which is these days more commonly referred to simply as rugby. In these more elitist institutions, the terms were once abbreviated as “soccer” for association football, and “rugger” for rugby football. So, yeah, you’re kind of right though. It’s why I don’t really get on my high horse about Americans calling it soccer, because it isn’t really *wrong* as such.
Soccer is a nickname for Association Football. Personally I take far more issue with Americans calling their illegitimate child of Football's brother Ruby the true Football. You carry the ball for most of the game! You might be related to the football family, but come on.
You're wrong, football was NOT originally called soccer. It was Association Football, also known as football, before the word soccer was coined. If you're referencing the paper by Stefan Szymanski (an American professor, it should be noted) then you should at least read it. That said he's in accurate on several points, but at least he's not as egregiously wrong as Eric.
Ted made a very peculiar face when Jamie told him he was lucky his dad was tougher on himself. I immediately assumed his dad killed himself, I thought it was a possibility last season when we found out he passed when Ted was only 16. And if thats the case its probably gonna get real emotional this season
Soccer comes from asSOCiation football with the Oxford -er added. It was originally assoccer but was eventually shortened to soccer. There was also rugger for rugby football.
I think European football fans just hate that America calls their football “football” because European football players control the ball with their feet and have a rule against using hands in most cases while Americans carry it in their hands and then call another game, that would be more accurately described as football, something else
@@Capsaysinit was fairly/accurately named football, as it's from the same ancestor as rugby *football* and it's played on foot. Saying American football isn't football is like saying a bat is not a mammal because it can fly.
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Dreamworks Dinotrux please
Just so you know…
All the pundits, and TV presenters in the show are the real deal doing cameos.
Wins are worth 3 points, draws are worth 1 point, and losses are worth 0 points. The two teams with the most points in the standings are promoted to the Premier League, so having only 8 points after 8 games is a bad thing for Richmond. Even if they had 3 wins and 5 losses, they'd have more points than they do after 8 draws.
There are also play-offs for teams placed 3-6. I believe 3rd team plays against 6th team and 4th teams plays against 5th team and the winners of these semifinals are playing in a final with the winner getting 3rd and last promotion to Premier League
They probably won’t see this tbh
See? It's stuff like this that prevent soccer from being a real sport
@@smashbrandiscootch719 rules?
@@smashbrandiscootch719It’s one of the most popular games in the world.
“If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike” never expected to see this classic British clip here 😂
I love Dr. Sharon's small arc in this episode. She's strict with Ted about not calling her "Doc" because she doesn't know him well enough to tell if it's a genuine casual nickname for a respected colleague or a way to dismiss the legitimacy of her profession. As a woman of color in her field, a white male head coach being genuinely welcoming to her is probably about as common as a snowball in hell. She allows him the nickname, and the personal icebreaker information, once she's seen enough of him in the workplace to know that he's being genuine. Or at least, that he's treating her exactly the same as his colleagues. Chefs kiss.
Thank you for including this insight. It's something that a lot of (white) reactors miss, and it's not their fault-- just their privilege, but in doing so they misattribute Dr. Sharon's motivations.
Its so cool how Brett Goldstein was never meant to play Roy as he is one of the writers of the show but he did such a good Roy kent he got the role
Good lord the crossover between blind wave and the if my grandmother had wheels clip is entirely unexpected
😂😂😂
Nate is doing the exact same thing he did in season one when he "fired up" the team. You saw it as him firing them up, when he actually meant every word he said and he just said that. Now however he has power, and thinks those in power can do stuff, so he's being himself with Will and others.
'doesn't eat sugar' - 'what a F-ing a-hole' - always cracks me up! 😃
Coach Kent's antics always makes me giggle! 'What usually do with yer lashes' - 'I leave 'em the F alone' - LoL! 😃
Football at this level for better or worse is a business that involves 100s of millions of dollars. And its ultimately a results based business where you need to win. So I think its partly just Ted realizing that they need Jamie to win rather than wanting to impart a particular lesson.
I think Sharon also echoed Beards' words from last season and that's why Ted acted. Sure, it won't go over well at first, but if the team is mid at best the job of the coach is to find ways of improvement. I think not doing anything would have boiled over at the end regardless.
Ted isn’t concerned with wins and losses. He’s concerned for the well being of each member of the team
@@bereasonable8018 yeah before, but that changed after roy's whole arc in season 1 (with beard's help). we saw him get benched which is ted's way of choosing to make the practical choice for the team
Roy became my favorite character probably by the 3rd episode when he was at the school and then learning that he's the main character in a Wrinkle in Time and faced off against Jamie.
I don't think it's really clear if Ted spoke with the team about Jamie coming back but I get the impression that he did. It just seems like they weren't surprised to see him when he ran out onto the pitch, but they weren't happy. But as the manager I wouldn't expect that it's something he has to talk to the team about.
It just presents a really odd, confounding delivery to the audience: Sam and by extension the rest of the Greyhounds were reassured by Ted explicitly that Jaime was not welcome back, but without enough context he reverses without reconciling his initial reassurance
If I’m being generous, I speculate whether Ted informed the players or not, the writers had him wanting them to be upset with him rather than Jaime; but the final edit just delivers a huge swing such that Ted presents really dishonest especially since he got Sam to be so vulnerable and contrite
I would like to believe your interpretation -- that Ted did talk to the team first. Because while no, he's not REQUIRED to talk to the team first, the culture of trust that Ted goes to so much effort to establish would necessitate that after reassuring Sam that Jamie wasn't returning, he would then notify everyone that he'd changed his mind, rather than surprise them. I love this series (I consider Season 1 an almost perfect season of TV), but in seasons 2 & 3 it does get a little too fond of surprise reveals to the viewing audience, sometimes at the expense of the carefully established traits of the characters.
@@DelGuy03by reactions I think Ted didn’t tell the team.
I’m imagining that Ted did inform the team he was bringing Jamie back but he probably empowered the team to call out Jamie on his past behavior.
“The term soccer comes from Oxford "-er" slang, which was prevalent at the University of Oxford in England from about 1875, and is thought to have been borrowed from the slang of Rugby School. Initially spelled assoccer, it was later reduced to the modern spelling.[11] This form of slang also gave rise to rugger for rugby football, fiver and tenner for five pound and ten pound notes, and the now-archaic footer that was also a name for association football.[12] The word soccer arrived at its final form in 1895 and was first recorded in 1889 in the earlier form of socca.[13]”
Ted doesn’t come from high school. He comes from Division II. He coached at Wichita State, where I work. We don’t actually have a football team having lost a portion of it in a plane crash, but it furthers Ted’s Kansas connection.
Little fun side note, Brett Goldstein (Roy) plays Hercules in Thor Love and Thunder, AND Cristo Fernández (Danny Rojas) plays the barman that speaks to Venom at the end in Spider Man No Way Home.
The way I understand it, 'soccer' is short for 'association football', and is upper class Oxford slang. 'Rugby' is short for 'rugby football', which is the other branch of the sport. Rugby football has two main variants internationally, and then American football is an offshoot of that again.
So, rugby football is usually just rugby these days. Association football is either known as soccer or football, depending on where you are. And then American football is a child of rugby football.
EDIT: Wikipedia claims American football evolved from both soccer and rugby, not just one of them. In that sense, keeping only "football" from their names makes sense.
Also, slightly unrelated but the Oxford slang thing where they shorten words and add -er (asSOCiation to SOCcer like you pointed out) is where the British slang for fivers and tenners come from.
You can tell cause Rugby is awesome and football is crap.
And there's an unverified belief that games are called Football not because they are played WITH your feet(Like some many American Football haters like to claim, though Rugby already disproves them), but those played ON you feet, as opposed to on Horseback.
@@MicahSps in your mind, sure, for the rest of the world, fuck no
Yeah the male presenter on This Morning got fired in disgrace.
Naughty Phil
The Twitter thing about Ted's mustache having an account is a reference to how there was an actual account made for the NHL coach Joel Quenville's mustache.
Soccer Saturday is the show that follows the 3pm Saturday matches, aka the ones that are not shown on TV due to an archaic law that prevents live football being shown between 2:45 and 5:15 on a Saturday.
"Soccer" was slang for association football.
Seeing Philip Scofield on this now is a very different viewing experience haha
You're guys's analysis of nate's character change was so interesting and well thought out!
Really excited we'll watch 'Rainbow' episode soon, they'r'e gonna love it!!
‘Soccer’ comes from the fact that it’s full title is ‘Association Football’
Soccer comes from Association Football, Rugby was Rugby Foorball... and the NFL is Gridiron Football. Soccer was the most popular of them all in England and just became Football, same reason why Gridiron Football is just Football here in the States. But when 'Association Football' came to America, England was calling it Soccer... so that name stuck here. (And I think in Canada as well?)
That This Morning clip makes this episode even better
Season 2 is an absolute emotional roller-coaster. Fabulous though
All of these characters are great. Premier League Futbol is amazing to watch. Easy to learn and follow passionately.
That clip about grandma having wheels is testament to the absolutely amazing sense of humor British culture has.
Eric, I love you in that AFC Richmond Shirt!!!!
Dude, i knew instantly about those two becuase of that video too hahaha it kills me every time o see it hahaha
Jamie reacting to George Harrison death is like reactors to old show not understanding context.
Yes, soccer and rugby were both referred to as "football" in the late 1800s in England. To differentiate them they were named by their rule sets: Rugby Rules/Association Rules, and informally called "Rugger" and "Soccer." Once soccer became much more popular and widespread, it won the "Football" title in the hearts, minds, and kidney pie-holes of English sports fans - but because of the burgeoning popularity of American football (very similar at the time to rugby) around the the same time, rugby never took hold in the US, while "Soccer" did - BUT because our own brand of "Football" took off domestically, it got that moniker, so the British transition away from "Soccer" was not matched here.
In Australia, they have like 3 or 4 different sports that they call football, and it's fucking confusing as fuck.
I was going to try and explain, but you’ve done it more eloquently than I could have.
Keeley has just explained why the 4 of you pick up some new, loyal followers: not just by being knowledgeable at video games and media, but because you show a full range of emotion plus vulnerability. Although every thing in TL is thought out meticulously, there are the rare things that are obviously done for dramatic effect more than how Ted would choose to do them in real life. Jamie's appearance on the field is the main one. We all would like to think that they had a team discussion about it beforehand, but either way the dramatic reveal was too juicy to pass up - at least for the audience. (It's always bugged me that the angle is wrong for them to be watching Jamie come out of the locker room from Rebecca's office). I'm going to suggest that Ted Lasson be the first series that you RE-watch, because you will be amazed at how it improves and deepens with each re-watch.
I saw that slightly different. I assumed as Director of Football Operations, Higgins just knew it would be happening.
@@Lightningrod75 I agree that Higgins was aware... but I also agree that Ted didn't tell the team (which especially after the conversation with Sam in the locker room) which you think he WOULD have. But yeah, the reveal at the end of the episode in this case seems to trump the logical progression in the story.
Fortunately, I don't see that being the case hardly at all
I don’t think Holly & Phil were laughing at Gino because of the “village bike” implication, but rather because it’s simply not a very common expression and it totally took them by surprise. It was just a great, out of left-field putdown.
Yeeeah Eric sorta got it but I was gonna say, Soccer certainly wasn't what it was called first, even though the term did originate in England before the US. It was a simple oxford slang for association football. I'm pretty sure there were 'football' clubs in the US before soccer caught on a lot more. Then with the rise of American football there's just no reason to drop the Soccer anymore. But what tends to happen with Trans-Atlantic English, is us Brits may have used it first a long time ago but then we moved on and the US didn't get the memo xD.
It's also not just the US. Australia calls it soccer too.
There are some historians that argue that brits simply stopped using "soccer" to distance themselves from other countries, not that other countries "didn't get the memo". They say your literature commonly interchanged soccer and football well into the 1980s.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba It's possible, but it doesn't 'feel' like that's the case. I always got the impression it was always 'football' among the working class, and once amateur soccer died out professional football remained.
The tv presenters cracking up with laughter are Phillip Schofield and Holly Willoughby. They’ve had an ‘interesting’ year or two. Sex scandal, kidnap plot, and… queue jumping .
Snarky Nate 😮 Ted doesn’t need to tell the team. I think he told Rebecca, beard and Nate, guess when Ted called Jamie to come back it was under certain conditions. He knows Ted is looking out for him after the soldier he gave him.
24:57 Eric asking the real questions
Soccer is short hand for association football. Football was used to describe a bunch of different games, including early rugby, but association football, or soccer, was an early attempt to establish an official league with a unified ruleset.
The word SOCcer comes from asSOCiation football, to differentiate from rugby football.
Ive said it once, Ill say it again, Jaime's arc in this show rivals that of Theon from GoT. Sure, the stakes arent the same, but nonetheless.
Some English university campus called it 'rugger' (Rugby Football) and 'assoccer' (Association Football) to distinguish the sports. since they where both football (also reason American 'football'). assoccer got shortened to soccer and spread. but with Rugby getting more commonly known as Rugby and left the football behind 'Association Football' started changing course to leave the Association behind and called it football. the short term soccer disappeared except in counties where there was another type of football still named that way.
0:36 It’s asSOCiation football.
It seems this one was Rick’s final episode. I’m curious why he dropped the show, or if he just watched it on his own. Funny thing is I actually took a long break after this episode too to check out S1 reactions.
I don't like lavender scented things unless it actual lavender straight from the plant
It was football first, then came rugby football, and you also have gaelic football and American football, and Australian rules football. The countries that have other types of football, call association football "soccer". It was just a short word to differentiate it from other forms of football, but soccer was always first called football.
I have to set the record straight about Soccer vs. football and it's origin because it is a little more complicated. And yes, I know - they will never ever ever read this because they don't have people reading comments - everyone maybe remembers the AOE S5 debacle where they thought Deek was FitzSimmons son even thought the comment section were screaming at them.
So Football or Soccer has been around for centuries. It was originally called Football (not soccer) in England - not because it was a game played WITH your foot but ON your feet (a slang used by rich people for all sports played ON your feet). The high rich people only played sports or horseback (fx polo or hunting foxes).
The reason the game originates from England is because that is where it was standardizes - as in rules was written down. It was called "Association Football". However around the same time another game was popular - Rugby and their name "Rugby Football".
The British had to tell the two games from another so "Association Football" became Soccer and "Rugby Football" became Football. This carried over into America where the game of "Rugby Football" evolved into "American Football" and Soccer stayed Soccer. Like in sooooo many other areas the World moved on and adapted while the US kept stuck in their ways. So while you can blame the British for the initial naming of the two sports - the US are ultimately to blame for being ridiculously rigid and stubborn to change even though they are wrong.
So the different ruleset you are taking about is Rugby vs. Football (European Football).¨
Had the British made a different naming choice back then you would be calling Soccer, Football and American Football would be called American Rugby - as it should be.
The British still used 'soccer' into 1980s. You didn't move on as soon as you think.
It's also not just the US. Football is called soccer in several other countries. Japan, Canada, Australia, Ireland, South Africa, etc.. It's not simply a matter of being rigid and stubborn. Almost all these regions had other forms of competing forms of football/rugby, which resulted in football being called soccer to differentiate them.
There are also countries where either is acceptable like Singapore, Philippines, and Puerto Rico. In some, soccer is the more common term even if both are used.
So you're right. It is more complicated, and even more complicated than that.
A much better explanation, albeit a wholly unnecessarily condescending one.
@@ImAlsoMerobibaExactly, like Gaelic Football and Aussie Rules.
The end of the episode presents a really odd, confounding delivery to the audience: Sam and by extension the rest of the Greyhounds were reassured by Ted explicitly that Jaime was not welcome back, but without enough context he reverses without reconciling his initial reassurance
If I’m being generous, I speculate whether Ted informed the players or not, the writers had him wanting them to be upset with him rather than Jaime; but the final edit just seems delivers a huge swing such that Ted presents really dishonest, especially since he had Sam so vulnerable and contrite earlier
im casual football watcher but god damn it hurts seeing them talk about football 😂 to the point where im responding to them LOUDLY while watching 😩😂
The United States has played in the World Cup many times lol
21:17 CLASSIC XD
Ayee Calvin with the Code Red
I believe that soccer is short for Association Football called as such to differentiate from Rugby Football.
Sorry but Fútbol start in England in 1857 or in my country Spain in 1870 where it was always called football or the Spanish translation as it was called at the beginning in 1870 in Spanish balón pie foot ball
The first American football team was founded in 1920
Seventy years later 😅
Its Association Football and Rugby Football. The "soc" from Association was turned into Soccer.
Of course later down people just called Rugby football, Rugby so association football just kept football.
American Football is just Rugby with protection (I don't know the rules of either outside of in rugby you can't throw the ball forward)
The word Soccer is an abbreviation of Association Football. So it was football first, and soccer the abbreviation of that.
Association Football --> football & assoc --> asoccer --> soccer. Football is older, but the word soccer has been around for a long time. It fell out of use in the UK a while ago. Association Football rules were first codified in 1863, the word soccer has been around since the late 1800s.
He's wrong. The original name was "Association Football" to differentiate between "Rugby Football". It can easily be divined that the term "Soccer" is derived from the word "Association", so clearly the term soccer cannot predate the term football.
2:23 Yeah, so, that entire section hasn't aged super well, since both the presenters got in trouble recently, to say the least...
I know the story about Phillip Schofield, but what's the trouble with Holly Willoughby? Or are you talking about the kidnapping story?
@@HombreGermany I'm not 100% on the details myself, but I think it's something to do with how she acts behind the scenes. And it wasn't helped by the queue-jumping thing. She didn't come out looking squeaky clean basically.
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Soccer was short for association football I’m guessing that was a different type of football
Association football is just the full proper name for football.
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Soccer isn’t the “original” name for it, but rather a slang name from posh English schools. Football is a short-hand way of say “Association Football” which is the full name of the sport, and distinguishes it from “Rugby Football” which is these days more commonly referred to simply as rugby. In these more elitist institutions, the terms were once abbreviated as “soccer” for association football, and “rugger” for rugby football. So, yeah, you’re kind of right though. It’s why I don’t really get on my high horse about Americans calling it soccer, because it isn’t really *wrong* as such.
Please watch "Heartstopper"🙏
No its not the original name. It was a nickname. Football has always been its name.
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bit poor timing to have phillip schofield there lol...
Soccer is a nickname for Association Football. Personally I take far more issue with Americans calling their illegitimate child of Football's brother Ruby the true Football. You carry the ball for most of the game! You might be related to the football family, but come on.
Football has same rules in every country Because of FIFA
2:13 it's like rugby and the variant the americans call football even though they barely kick the ball and it isn't a ball... weird....
Day 1 of waiting for a bojack horseman reaction
old?? Jaime is 23 lol
Ok,where is the ben10 reaction ??
You're wrong, football was NOT originally called soccer. It was Association Football, also known as football, before the word soccer was coined.
If you're referencing the paper by Stefan Szymanski (an American professor, it should be noted) then you should at least read it. That said he's in accurate on several points, but at least he's not as egregiously wrong as Eric.
Ted made a very peculiar face when Jamie told him he was lucky his dad was tougher on himself.
I immediately assumed his dad killed himself, I thought it was a possibility last season when we found out he passed when Ted was only 16.
And if thats the case its probably gonna get real emotional this season
Soccer comes from asSOCiation football with the Oxford -er added. It was originally assoccer but was eventually shortened to soccer. There was also rugger for rugby football.
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Nope you guys are completely correct, soccer is a term made up by Brits.
It was not called soccer first
The British Invented the term Soccer and they hate us for using it because we have an another sport that involves foots and balls.
I think European football fans just hate that America calls their football “football” because European football players control the ball with their feet and have a rule against using hands in most cases while Americans carry it in their hands and then call another game, that would be more accurately described as football, something else
@@CapsaysinNot just Europe. Asia and Africa too
@@Capsaysinit was fairly/accurately named football, as it's from the same ancestor as rugby *football* and it's played on foot. Saying American football isn't football is like saying a bat is not a mammal because it can fly.
Tell that to Sky Sports!@@OneTrueScotsman