This is not new. Palos Verdes has been slip sliding away for decades. I'm old enough to remember going to the aquarium that was built on the peninsula that has now been long gone. I know someone that actually bought property there, but didn't live in it. He rented it out for a huge amount and declared it a a business so he could write it off against his taxes when it collapsed. people still living there are no different than those living on the east coast watching their homes get washed away by the tides. They've had their money's worth so they need to quit trying to scrounge other, smarter, people's tax money.
I appreciate the historical knowledge. It's like early 50s and 60s when the hillsides of Los Angeles will catch on fire. Back then they knew better than to build homes on it. Fast forward to 2024 and those same Hill size are catching on fire was major development along the hillside. History gives you lessons if you listen.
Well let's see I was there in 70s and this was happening, so people had to know when they Chose to build there. If I put a house in Colorado at base of mountain should I think I am immune from snow avalanches?
@@SurfCityBill Yep, this is a slow and ancient landslide that's been going on for thousands of years. There's several spots like this around California....LaJolla has one - not as big and not as built up. Also the westernmost portion of Anaheim Hills in Orange County to name a couple.
The stubbornness of living in such risky, deteriorating conditions is not admirable, it's a denial of reality despite everything crumbling away. This area has been unstable for decades.
My wife and I used to drive the Portuguese Bend area nearby in the late 1970's. All of the supply lines were above ground and many homes were sitting on I beams. I recall the area was good for farming and the strawberries were delicious.
It is unfathomable that they are allowed to stay at all. That slide could get way worse when the winter rains come. Get a van and get out now. Gravity always wins.
@@LuckyPierre789 Yes, in the late 1950s, and by 1961, Crenshaw Blvd. was extended, with attempts to build the road "up an over" the Portuguese Bend area, as the road was originally intended to go down and connect to P.V. Drive below. Construction had to stop because it was then believed the earth was moving as a result of that project alone. (One might want to research, in Vanderlip historical archives, whether the land was moving, but not as violently/suddenly, even before that never completed Crenshaw Blvd extension. Who knows?)
It is unfathomable that people feel they need to control other people. We don't need the "danger police" to disallow them to remain in their homes. They paid for it. They get to decide when they leave. This is a heartbreaking situation. The are entitled to make their own choices under these terrible circumstances.
@@chelseysmith-f3b I’d agree as long as there aren’t any babies in the house that would prefer not to slide down a cliff while they’re sleeping soundly in their cribs and having a pleasant dream about Mickey Mouse.
They keep complaining even though the houses are literally going downhill. Take anything you can sell to a storage and say goodbye. There is no way of fixing this. Btw Im also hard working and can’t ardor that area lol
Yep, I'm sympathetic and all for helping our fellow man. But how do you provide power and water to an area that is changing that quickly? They're gonna have to leave if they want to be part of the grid. If the land stops moving and stabilizes then we can talk about reconnecting their homes to the grid. But otherwise it's sadly a write off. So we're talking insurance or bail out, most likely.
@@Odin33356 Engineered by mother nature Odin! She is redesigning the landscape, mother nature does not care about classes of people. She has had enough of greedy humans disrespecting and destroying mother earth.
Its a wasteland time to call in the salvage companies then the bulldozers then the arborists to plant native plants and trees,let the land heal its self! Sorry residents but its time to go,dont expect the govt to fix what they cant!
A deep layer of Bentonite clay is not going to "heal itself". Why would you plant anything there? Cactus like weeds will take this over tomorrow. The day after that it will slide into the sea. No reason to do anything but move.
@@LaurieFloodTeacher shoring it up is like trying to plug an erupting volcano with lava rocks! You might slow it down,but its a very temporary solution! The shoring wont hold up any better than the actual house that was engineered and designed! Once the walls shift out of plumb its structural integrity is absolutely decreased!Shoring is meant to be temporary! It will go out of plumb and level while giving residents hope and false security! Who will take the responsibility when the first human life is lost due to shoring failure! It WILL fail when the slide shifts enough! Furthermore are these people planning on living like this the rest of their lives?what about the next storm? Emergency service access?mail access?taking kids to school?open holes?ruts?sinkholes?sewage?water pressure and quality?dangerous red tagged dwellings?looters?squatters?rodents and insect infestations?unsafe use of generators/carbon monoxide, and fuel fires! Face it at least part of this city is time for abandonment!
Mother nature is redesigning the landscape. She does not care about classes of people. She has had enough of greedy humans disrespecting and destroying mother earth. She's coming for us all.
200 feet below the surface of that area, there is a river of mud moving toward the sea, taking the soft sandstone and clay with it. All the houses in that development are toast. Look at Palisades Park in Santa Monica. it’s been reduced by 50%, due to the West end of the park falling 150’ onto Highway 1 over the last 100 years. Same kind of soil conditions there as in Palos Verdes… except PV has water eroding the very sub-strata the houses are built upon.
Finally, an informed commenter! That mud is bentonite clay, which is super slippery when wet. Reminds me of a story I read about a prospector decades ago who tried to climb a desert slope after a rain and faceplanted. Was a huge deposit of Bentonite and he sold the claim to a cat litter company for a pretty penny. I remember driving through Portuguese Bend many times in the mid 80s. The water mains were built right on the surface, and there were huge hops and dips that had to get graded and freshly asphalted on a monthly basis because the ground was moving so much. This is NOT an "emergency" in the sense that it suddenly and unexpectedly just happened.
Yikes,, i buy powdered bentonite clay and mix it with water for a face mask,,, it dries on your face,, and rinses off pretty easily,,,,, so if there is water running through that,,,,, /// that's Really bad!
It's an active slide. There is not much you can do about it except draining. It this case the area is way too large it would cost billions... with no guaranty.
Very interesting. Most of the residents in RPV are educated enough to know about this as well. That entire area up there is unstable, and not just Portuguese Bend - the adjacent neighborhoods as well.
@@davidzajac4907 why shouldn't Americans be helped in a tragedy or misfortune, a hand up? illegals get it for breaking the law and committing crimes and they still get everything free, now it's $150K "helping hand" to buy an American house on American soil and they aren't even legal nor a citizen AND they broke the law, so why not a law abiding citizen? you tell me. I would help them, this isn't something they chose for themselves to happen to them or their families (or their grandma or mom and dad) it's OUR AMERICAN FAMILY, NOT ILLEGALS PEOPLE. wake up, we help our own! we have to change how we are, not supporting our own people but rather "outsiders", no excuses. God bless and help them to recover and to be safe. God first, then OUR family, OUR Country and we have lots to do here people to save our Country.
@@dondavis5633 RIGHT, these people didn't steal these houses, they WORKED FOR IT and THRIVED WHEN AMERICA WAS ABLE TO PAY FOR IT'S FOOD AND RENT AND MORTGAGES WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK 3 PART TIME JOBS, we didn't just give all our hard earned tax dollars over to ILLEGALS and ANCHORS from every nation who want a freebie. wake up people, quit resenting your own people, your own family who are having a hard time, maybe it's your jealous and resentment that other have something they worked for and you resent that. ILLEGALS are criminals and get it all FREE. wake up.
I think there is definitely a concern when your roads are sinking. Time to leave folks. Better to be safe than sorry. Lots of land out there. Choose wisely. Good luck.
I don't know if it still is but Palos Verdes was one of the most expensive real estate areas in Southern California. Anyone who has been there long enough should know it's not stable ground.
@@JustMe-gs9xi possibly . I am a little out of the loop regarding PV , but I know people who lived on the outskirts and left more than 20 years ago because of geological concerns. It's no secret that this has been an ongoing reality and I for one can't imagine investing in property without researching this sort of thing first
These people are idiots! Bad investments aren’t tax payers problem. It’s going to take someone getting hurt to make them leave. This has been going on for years!
Tell that to “The Smartest Man in the World, Donald Trump” who owns a Golf Club on the Cliffs of Rancho Palos Verdes. And he bought it AFTER the 18th Hole fell 300 feet down a steep cliff into the ocean. He then Sued the City of RPV for $100,000,000 in order to build the 12 Mansions he eventually built on the property. I’m guessing $1,000,000,000 when he sues them again.
the land is coming down and so will the homes, time to move, no amount of structural reinforcing is going to help... residents need to salvage their belongings and what ever they can take away with them before the bank completely gives way.,
I remember as kid that area was always sliding especially the road with the sewer pipes above ground and this was in 1970's it was known then the land was sliding
When was this community built? It looks like this region was a 'nature preserve'. It was probably 'zoned' as park reserve because folks at one point knew this was dangerous land to build on. So what happened? Did someone BUILD illegally? Or get greedy and sell land they shouldn't have to builders?
Before the land movement took place, the residents of Palos Verdes would brag about living in that special and privileged community. Most of them would go to a local supermarket where 90% of the employees came from other communities to work there, and the Palos Verdes residents would treat those hard working employess like garbage. Nobody told me... I very much know so. Now that they are about to fall to the same financial level of those employees that they treated SO bad... they say: "we are not rich"... yeah ok!
You do for people who live in FL for example because they are subsidized by the government but these people are not (yet). Their insurance does not cover land movement.
That land was never meant to be used this way. Some money exchanged hands and magically it became buildable. Should have been a park from the beginning.
Not everyone who lives there is a millionaire genius. I lived I. The area for 25 years, my dad wanted the best for us and rented all of his life unfortunately
@@MikeHunt90731 so you’re telling me that the folks who live in the Portuguese Bend GATED community with exclusive oceanfront homes are NOT millionaires? GET REAL
@@mr.d7237 did you even read my comment Einstein? Not everyone is a millionaire! I lived behind the gates from 1974-1976, rented the house. From 1976-1989 lived in PV Drive South just below the houses in Exultant that has slipped. Duh there are some millionaires who own homes there but you forgot about the renters who aren't. You probably don't even know where RPV is so talking to you is a waste of time 🤣
I used to live in that area and just driving up Crenshaw Blvd from Pacific Coast Highway into PV is terrifying. The homes are nice but you could not pay me to live where you have to drive windy roads and look hundreds of feet down cliffs.
This is not really a fault. This area is an ancient landslide. The ground is a mixture of dirt and rocks and it is not consolidated with any type of binder. Underneath this ancient slide is a layer of volcanic bentonite clay, and there is another layer in the middle of the slide... They know this from core drill samples that were published in an engineering report yesterday. These two layers of bentonite, one at 165 feet down and the other at 360 feet down, act like a lubricant when it gets wet. The entire peninsula is moving on top the deep layer of bentonite, and the "toe" of the slide is about 500 feet offshore, underwater.
@@Odin33356 whatcha doin here trolly Pollyanna? 😆I own a chevy dudder. I do know anyone who builds on unstable ground is a duffus that's for sure. Oi, Odinion. You gonna debate me or what😆😆
Since they are giving up CA to the criminals and illegals, where else would you live but behind a gate? Democrats keep voting for this. Hence the $63 BILLION dollar budget deficit. Live like the politicians and MSNBS talking heads funded by Pfizer. With security. DUH! See the meth heads dancing and the gangs stealing? Its what everybody votes for here.
Remember last year a video post up dates on his hikes that the ground was shifting now this .Really sad be safe everyone Don't stay the earth could literally swallow you..Prayers
Literally ALL of those residents knew full and well, they live in a slide zone. Their problem. Dont raise my insurance rates because of their poor decision to purchase/live, there.
“Maybe because he thinks everybody that lives in this area is rich and wealthy, but that is not the case.” YES THAT IS EXACTLY THE CASE. Rich people demanding a taxpayer funded handout.
Im in Alaska and i knew they were going to say Portuguese Bend. Its been shifting for decades. The road crew works there year round repairing gaping cracks...
so delusional that theyd rather gamble on their home they have been in for decades then gamble on the streets homeless, I think id take the home too... careful calling people delusional before you bother thinking about their actual situation and the actual hardships they face, have some empathy.
I feel so bad for these homeowners. Most have spent their whole lives paying the mortgage to pay off their home. If it were my family, I’d want to leave & probably would but how do you pay the mortgage & then rent someplace else to live? They are in a no win situation. They need help…..maybe Newsome has some money to help them….perhaps that $25,000 they are paying illegals to buy homes could be better used helping tax paying Californians losing their home to an earth shattering situation like this? Right Governor Newsome?
Why should they get anything? They chose to build or buy there knowing that the ground is always moving. Don't they have insurance? Or were they refused because of where their house was? Kinda like trying to get insurance in a flood plain.
It's amazing that people with a ton of wealth with equate it with being hard-working, as if someone living cheque to cheque in a crappy little apartment while busting their balls at an Amazon warehouse is poor because they "aren't working hard enough". I would say 90% of the people I've ever met who aren't struggling financially are not "working hard" at all. They have easy jobs that happen to pay a lot of money. And the only reason I plant that figure at 90% instead of 100% is because I deal with blue collar tradesmen regularly.
"as if someone living cheque to cheque in a crappy little apartment "; you do mean, "as if someone living *check to check* in a crappy little apartment "; where you from?
What are they expecting to save by staying? Time to get the movers and go to a safer place before you really lose everything, including your lives, people…
This isn’t gonna stop. Folks that live there are better off cutting their losses. Start over somewhere else. For decades people have known about this. It can’t be a surprise.
Our heart of hearts goes out to you all . Home owners Insurance does not pay anything? Did you all contact Red Cross or your area Counsels ? Is your homes built on a garbage dump half way or mountains ? Shifting 30 yr home owners wow my son & I pray hard truly for you all . 😢
@@teresadragstream8648 Yeah, where tubes come out of the sky and suck your home apart. 😅 At least it is over faster than this, I guess? My folks were from Missouri and moved to California in 1959. They preferred earthquakes, but also bought a hillside house that was anchored to bedrock and not on a clay landslide.
The original developers and the city/county are criminally libel for ever allowing homes to be built on land the was known to be unstable. There were studies done in the ‘30’s by civil engineers, who stated no buildings should be built on that land. The city ignored it, and gave the developers the right to build. Follow the money.
@@barryf5479Not if all their money is wrapped up in a mortgage. Many middle class people will put their life savings into a house as an investment. Many of those folks are land poor, but now they’re just going to be poor.
When was this gated community built? It looks like this region was a 'nature preserve'. It was probably 'zoned' as park reserve because folks at one point knew this was dangerous land to build on. So what happened? Did someone BUILD illegally? Or get greedy and sell land they shouldn't have to builders?
When your house starts sinking into the primordial mud, it shouldn't take an evacuation order to tell you to start packing your bags. And the guy that is "staying?" Well that is not going to have a happy ending.
but illegals can, right? now the illegals get $150,000 free for a down on a house, ILLEGALS. no American gets this, trust me, no veteran, so many homeless Americans, but illegals, sure come right in and get free everything, just vote demoncrat!
Nothing like a little class-envy to make yourself feel superior, eh? Let's hope all YOUR decisions are as free from fate's paybacks as you think they are, pal.
@@jamessteele7010 "paid off mansions" get a grip, please. if you knew this area, it is not BEL AIR or BEVERLY HILLS, seriously. my mom bought a house here in the 70s, she was a frickin' waitress, okay? she worked hard everyday and she NEVER GOT WELFARE OR HANDOUTS, she worked. all of us kids worked too. ILLEGALS can come here, drop anchors and get paid to sit back and everything is free for them, our laws are not respected, we are drowning now and people resent others who actually are citizens and are having misfortune, THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA, our priorities are bass-ackwards, if you get my drift. wake up America, your Country is calling you. America First, after God Himself, this means OUR FAMILY.
I personally can't stand Nesom, but let's be fair - what the hell can he possibly do to remedy this problem, beside bestowing everyone affected with taxpayer's money?
Well he gives a shit ton of $$ it to the illegals. Why not the legal residents? Ya know, who pay the taxes in this state? How much does it cost to give illegals free health care? They don't even know. Somewhere between $3-6 BILLION a year. Anyone who is really rich, has already moved out of CA. And they've taken their companies, employees, and that tax and payroll revenue with them.
Every single one of those homes have in ground swimming pools. Their money will be fine. They arent starving or hurting. Get a job like the rest of us. Boohoo. Your bad decisions lead to this.
Bail out or not, these properties value are decreasing day by day. More and more people are aware of the situation, and I doubt there will be a lot of buyer interest in living here nor investing here.
Just had a RUclips recommendation of a similar news report dated six years ago saying that Rancho Palos Verdes homeowners were experiencing this exact same issue. They knew what to expect back then.
0:09 Fun fact! The house on the left at 0:09 is for sale! Price reduced to $1.45M. “Nearly half the home shows no adverse effects of the land movement.” I think they should update the listing.
But, But, the view. We will just have to move to another torn down hill and filled in with loose dirt and hope that it doesn't fall apart. I have some land at the bottom of a 150 year old dam for sale.
Granted, I haven't been in that area since I used to bike ride around the peninsula 40 years ago, BUT - they let people build more homes out there??? ...on the earthquake fault??? ...where they used to re-surface a one mile stretch of P.V. Drive South, several times a year???
@@JBoy340a There's a pretty active extension of the San Andreas fault that runs through there. At least, that's what they called it back then. I recall they had signs on P.V. Drive South, warning of "constant land movement, next 7/10ths of a mile".
It's probably unsafe to live in that entire area. Residents should be made to evacuate those houses in case of gas leaks and house collapses. There isn't going to be any fix for this land movement situation. It's dangerous driving into the area for any vehicles. When the heavy rains begin again it will only get worse. The developers should be sued. There's no way they wouldn't have known that land was unstable. Those residents are going to lose all the value of their houses and they should vacate as soon as possible.
Buying the house in the 80’s was so much more affordable and paid off by now. If the current situation hadn’t happened, those houses would be worth millions, but that doesn’t mean that the owners have millions in the bank.
their house values just dropped 50% and if the homes arent entirely paid off (most people have a mortgage in America) then guess what, they aint rich lol. This used to be middle class 40 years ago... youre just conditioned to think people with some decent properties are filthy rich these days, its funny but sad what has been normalized.
Mother Nature will always win. Sinking & sliding. Time to move on. No way will the state even attempt to fix that (nor should they). Everyone should be fully insured (flood, ground & regular homeowners insurance) just in case.
@@sportsbesthighlightschanne1052this touches at a lil deeper issue, the real ones going to Hell are the people who built, marketed, and sold these houses knowing full well the land was a concern. Apparently, they've known since the 70's but your acting people leaving RUclips comments are the ones going to Hell. Get your head outta your ass
So many law makers are trying to use reproductive healthcare against us when the real doctors are reaching out to us to find our trusted partners. How do we know?
And so castles built on sand
Fall in the sea
Eventually
wise man builds his house on the rock
The rock is in Arizona
Jimi Hendrix❤
These houses aren't built on sand.
That song still plays through my mind and it is very very appropriate here.
This is not new. Palos Verdes has been slip sliding away for decades. I'm old enough to remember going to the aquarium that was built on the peninsula that has now been long gone. I know someone that actually bought property there, but didn't live in it. He rented it out for a huge amount and declared it a a business so he could write it off against his taxes when it collapsed. people still living there are no different than those living on the east coast watching their homes get washed away by the tides. They've had their money's worth so they need to quit trying to scrounge other, smarter, people's tax money.
Yes marineland
more like centuries, millennia even
I appreciate the historical knowledge. It's like early 50s and 60s when the hillsides of Los Angeles will catch on fire. Back then they knew better than to build homes on it. Fast forward to 2024 and those same Hill size are catching on fire was major development along the hillside.
History gives you lessons if you listen.
100%
The is called erosion and plate techtonics. Happens throughout the Earth for melinia. The Earth changes. Always has, always will.
Well let's see I was there in 70s and this was happening, so people had to know when they Chose to build there. If I put a house in Colorado at base of mountain should I think I am immune from snow avalanches?
These ppl are nuts for staying. Time to go, its not going to get better. Not worth your life.
Well they cant sell and move, being homeless in california is terrible these days.
Good as dead, so thats why they stay.
I doubt there will be an earthquake type event. Just continuous slow movement that will eventually make getting in and out impossible.
@@SurfCityBill Yep, this is a slow and ancient landslide that's been going on for thousands of years. There's several spots like this around California....LaJolla has one - not as big and not as built up. Also the westernmost portion of Anaheim Hills in Orange County to name a couple.
Like that will help.@@juanbait9670
nuts on real estate....lol
The stubbornness of living in such risky, deteriorating conditions is not admirable, it's a denial of reality despite everything crumbling away. This area has been unstable for decades.
Centuries.
My wife and I used to drive the Portuguese Bend area nearby in the late 1970's. All of the supply lines were above ground and many homes were sitting on I beams. I recall the area was good for farming and the strawberries were delicious.
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Me too
So they had fair warning???.
@@paulchezkari6952 everyone alive now had more than fair warning.
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Those hills are constantly moving and they know this before they buy
That can be said for all of California
@@Odin33356 lol, hardly.... the seismic areas and places like this represent a small portion of the state overall
We didn't always have a earthquake every time it rains or fissures across Arizona
When California goes Yellowstone goes so we mine the fault lines at the salton sea for lithium and subsidize electric cars for Econ.
Good watches have capacitors not batteries unfortunately God is for lithium miners to blame for California falling into the ocean 🙏.
It is unfathomable that they are allowed to stay at all. That slide could get way worse when the winter rains come. Get a van and get out now. Gravity always wins.
And I will add that I grew up in that area and those hills have been sliding for decades!
“Gravity always wins. And it wears him out. It wears him out.”
@@LuckyPierre789 Yes, in the late 1950s, and by 1961, Crenshaw Blvd. was extended, with attempts to build the road "up an over" the Portuguese Bend area, as the road was originally intended to go down and connect to P.V. Drive below. Construction had to stop because it was then believed the earth was moving as a result of that project alone. (One might want to research, in Vanderlip historical archives, whether the land was moving, but not as violently/suddenly, even before that never completed Crenshaw Blvd extension. Who knows?)
It is unfathomable that people feel they need to control other people. We don't need the "danger police" to disallow them to remain in their homes. They paid for it. They get to decide when they leave. This is a heartbreaking situation. The are entitled to make their own choices under these terrible circumstances.
@@chelseysmith-f3b I’d agree as long as there aren’t any babies in the house that would prefer not to slide down a cliff while they’re sleeping soundly in their cribs and having a pleasant dream about Mickey Mouse.
They keep complaining even though the houses are literally going downhill. Take anything you can sell to a storage and say goodbye. There is no way of fixing this. Btw Im also hard working and can’t ardor that area lol
Yep, I'm sympathetic and all for helping our fellow man. But how do you provide power and water to an area that is changing that quickly? They're gonna have to leave if they want to be part of the grid. If the land stops moving and stabilizes then we can talk about reconnecting their homes to the grid. But otherwise it's sadly a write off. So we're talking insurance or bail out, most likely.
Many of those people bought 30-40 years ago and couldn't afford it if they tried to buy there now.
@@bowtoyoursensei554 I doubt I could have afforded it then, either.
English much?
ESL or public-school alum. What a genius.
I guess they think the dirt will magically pop back up
My neighborhood is holding a bake sale next weekend ... all proceeds will go to the "poor" suffering Palos Verde struggling homeowners ...
@@jamesgalle6122🤔 🤣🤣🤣
I feel for them. Medical debt is destroying my home. No one cares so welcome to the club.
Similar problem for me, but three of us live in a tiny apartment.
Wow. Overpriced area now reduced to reasonable prices.
Nope. Houses are still atleast 1.5 million even the ones that got f'd up.
There is nothing reasonable about living or buying there - the rains are coming, and they've been warned in so many ways that it's time to leave.
You build there, don’t blame mother nature.
We didn't always have a earthquake every time it rains or fissures across Arizona.
When California goes Yellowstone goes so we mine the fault lines at the salton sea for lithium and subsidize electric cars for Econ.
No catastrophe goes to waste because they're all engineered..
Really???@@Odin33356
@@Odin33356 Engineered by mother nature Odin! She is redesigning the landscape, mother nature does not care about classes of people. She has had enough of greedy humans disrespecting and destroying mother earth.
Its a wasteland time to call in the salvage companies then the bulldozers then the arborists to plant native plants and trees,let the land heal its self! Sorry residents but its time to go,dont expect the govt to fix what they cant!
That's far beyond shoring any of that up.
A deep layer of Bentonite clay is not going to "heal itself". Why would you plant anything there? Cactus like weeds will take this over tomorrow. The day after that it will slide into the sea. No reason to do anything but move.
@@LaurieFloodTeacher shoring it up is like trying to plug an erupting volcano with lava rocks! You might slow it down,but its a very temporary solution! The shoring wont hold up any better than the actual house that was engineered and designed! Once the walls shift out of plumb its structural integrity is absolutely decreased!Shoring is meant to be temporary! It will go out of plumb and level while giving residents hope and false security! Who will take the responsibility when the first human life is lost due to shoring failure! It WILL fail when the slide shifts enough! Furthermore are these people planning on living like this the rest of their lives?what about the next storm? Emergency service access?mail access?taking kids to school?open holes?ruts?sinkholes?sewage?water pressure and quality?dangerous red tagged dwellings?looters?squatters?rodents and insect infestations?unsafe use of generators/carbon monoxide, and fuel fires! Face it at least part of this city is time for abandonment!
Mother nature is redesigning the landscape. She does not care about classes of people. She has had enough of greedy humans disrespecting and destroying mother earth. She's coming for us all.
Totally agree!!
200 feet below the surface of that area, there is a river of mud moving toward the sea, taking the soft sandstone and clay with it. All the houses in that development are toast.
Look at Palisades Park in Santa Monica. it’s been reduced by 50%, due to the West end of the park falling 150’ onto Highway 1 over the last 100 years. Same kind of soil conditions there as in Palos Verdes… except PV has water eroding the very sub-strata the houses are built upon.
Finally, an informed commenter! That mud is bentonite clay, which is super slippery when wet. Reminds me of a story I read about a prospector decades ago who tried to climb a desert slope after a rain and faceplanted. Was a huge deposit of Bentonite and he sold the claim to a cat litter company for a pretty penny.
I remember driving through Portuguese Bend many times in the mid 80s. The water mains were built right on the surface, and there were huge hops and dips that had to get graded and freshly asphalted on a monthly basis because the ground was moving so much. This is NOT an "emergency" in the sense that it suddenly and unexpectedly just happened.
Yikes,, i buy powdered bentonite clay and mix it with water for a face mask,,, it dries on your face,, and rinses off pretty easily,,,,, so if there is water running through that,,,,, /// that's Really bad!
It's an active slide. There is not much you can do about it except draining. It this case the area is way too large it would cost billions... with no guaranty.
Tx for the explanation. Very interesting. Why would anyone build these houses in that area? I’m sure the contractors are long gone.
Very interesting. Most of the residents in RPV are educated enough to know about this as well.
That entire area up there is unstable, and not just Portuguese Bend - the adjacent neighborhoods as well.
They all want a bailout.
you have to be illegal to be free money, these are American citizens.
No, these are hard-working people who don't believe in handouts, plebian.
If it's true, wouldn't you?
@@davidzajac4907 why shouldn't Americans be helped in a tragedy or misfortune, a hand up? illegals get it for breaking the law and committing crimes and they still get everything free, now it's $150K "helping hand" to buy an American house on American soil and they aren't even legal nor a citizen AND they broke the law, so why not a law abiding citizen? you tell me. I would help them, this isn't something they chose for themselves to happen to them or their families (or their grandma or mom and dad) it's OUR AMERICAN FAMILY, NOT ILLEGALS PEOPLE. wake up, we help our own! we have to change how we are, not supporting our own people but rather "outsiders", no excuses. God bless and help them to recover and to be safe. God first, then OUR family, OUR Country and we have lots to do here people to save our Country.
@@dondavis5633 RIGHT, these people didn't steal these houses, they WORKED FOR IT and THRIVED WHEN AMERICA WAS ABLE TO PAY FOR IT'S FOOD AND RENT AND MORTGAGES WITHOUT HAVING TO WORK 3 PART TIME JOBS, we didn't just give all our hard earned tax dollars over to ILLEGALS and ANCHORS from every nation who want a freebie. wake up people, quit resenting your own people, your own family who are having a hard time, maybe it's your jealous and resentment that other have something they worked for and you resent that. ILLEGALS are criminals and get it all FREE. wake up.
This is not a good sign
It is a very isolated problem. If you don't live in PV, you have nothing to be concerned about.
I think there is definitely a concern when your roads are sinking. Time to leave folks. Better to be safe than sorry. Lots of land out there. Choose wisely. Good luck.
Anything with a actual brain is considered insane.
Simply put, they knew the risk.
I don't know if it still is but Palos Verdes was one of the most expensive real estate areas in Southern California. Anyone who has been there long enough should know it's not stable ground.
I read it is the richest retirement area in the US!
@@JustMe-gs9xi possibly . I am a little out of the loop regarding PV , but I know people who lived on the outskirts and left more than 20 years ago because of geological concerns. It's no secret that this has been an ongoing reality and I for one can't imagine investing in property without researching this sort of thing first
It's not going to be expensive for much longer.
These people are idiots! Bad investments aren’t tax payers problem. It’s going to take someone getting hurt to make them leave. This has been going on for years!
God won't help you with that attitude, get ready for the heat.
Tell that to “The Smartest Man in the World, Donald Trump” who owns a Golf Club on the Cliffs of Rancho Palos Verdes. And he bought it AFTER the 18th Hole fell 300 feet down a steep cliff into the ocean. He then Sued the City of RPV for $100,000,000 in order to build the 12 Mansions he eventually built on the property.
I’m guessing $1,000,000,000 when he sues them again.
Rainy season coming. Likely this year, in that area, rains shall be coming down much more forcefully and protracted.
The land has been sliding for years , duh . Why build there ?
For insurance payout
the land is coming down and so will the homes, time to move, no amount of structural reinforcing is going to help... residents need to salvage their belongings and what ever they can take away with them before the bank completely gives way.,
I remember as kid that area was always sliding especially the road with the sewer pipes above ground and this was in 1970's it was known then the land was sliding
When was this community built? It looks like this region was a 'nature preserve'.
It was probably 'zoned' as park reserve because folks at one point knew this was dangerous land to build on. So what happened?
Did someone BUILD illegally? Or get greedy and sell land they shouldn't have to builders?
Before the land movement took place, the residents of Palos Verdes would brag about living in that special and privileged community.
Most of them would go to a local supermarket where 90% of the employees came from other communities to work there, and the Palos Verdes residents would treat those hard working employess like garbage.
Nobody told me... I very much know so.
Now that they are about to fall to the same financial level of those employees that they treated SO bad... they say: "we are not rich"... yeah ok!
Just say you hate Whites
Humble pie has been served
Building permits were issused on all those properties.. obv its gonna come down to a legal issue.. Jmo
We all pay higher insurance premiums for these rich people to live next to wilderness.
God won't help you with that attitude, get ready for the heat.
You do for people who live in FL for example because they are subsidized by the government but these people are not (yet). Their insurance does not cover land movement.
@@sportsbesthighlightschanne1052 what?
. But God WILL help these homeowners because he looks after drunks and IDIOTS! 😂
That land was never meant to be used this way. Some money exchanged hands and magically it became buildable. Should have been a park from the beginning.
It’s tragic that these millionaires are losing their exclusive seaside hideaways.
Not everyone who lives there is a millionaire genius. I lived I. The area for 25 years, my dad wanted the best for us and rented all of his life unfortunately
@@MikeHunt90731 so you’re telling me that the folks who live in the Portuguese Bend GATED community with exclusive oceanfront homes are NOT millionaires? GET REAL
@@mr.d7237 did you even read my comment Einstein? Not everyone is a millionaire! I lived behind the gates from 1974-1976, rented the house. From 1976-1989 lived in PV Drive South just below the houses in Exultant that has slipped. Duh there are some millionaires who own homes there but you forgot about the renters who aren't. You probably don't even know where RPV is so talking to you is a waste of time 🤣
@@MikeHunt90731 stop lying
@@mr.d7237 wtf are you talking about? You are the clueless one, I was born and raised in the South Bay now crawl back under your rock 🤣
I feel so bad for these families.
I used to live in that area and just driving up Crenshaw Blvd from Pacific Coast Highway into PV is terrifying. The homes are nice but you could not pay me to live where you have to drive windy roads and look hundreds of feet down cliffs.
*A homeowner claims they're not all rich and wealthy... one of the sinking streets is literally called EXULTANT Drive **1:21*
I know it's a flower, but kinda also fitting "narcissa" 😂
I shall build my house on this fault line. Surely nothing will go wrong.
You mine the fault lines at the salton sea for lithium and subsidize electric cars for Elon.
This is not really a fault. This area is an ancient landslide. The ground is a mixture of dirt and rocks and it is not consolidated with any type of binder. Underneath this ancient slide is a layer of volcanic bentonite clay, and there is another layer in the middle of the slide... They know this from core drill samples that were published in an engineering report yesterday. These two layers of bentonite, one at 165 feet down and the other at 360 feet down, act like a lubricant when it gets wet. The entire peninsula is moving on top the deep layer of bentonite, and the "toe" of the slide is about 500 feet offshore, underwater.
@@Odin33356 whatcha doin here trolly Pollyanna? 😆I own a chevy dudder. I do know anyone who builds on unstable ground is a duffus that's for sure.
Oi, Odinion. You gonna debate me or what😆😆
@@katthefantastic you grow marijuana indoors just to complain about power outages or fires created by them and dead firemen 😂
@@katthefantastic you don't have a high enough vibrational frequency or level of consciousness to know what love is or even be considered human
Nothing new there. Everybody knows about the slide.
40 years ago home byers where told the land is in continuous movement and they predicted this would happen.
false
The same thing happened in late 1950s in Portuguese Bend. Lots of homes
slid down the hillside.
As soon as he said "gated community".......
Damn right.
Since they are giving up CA to the criminals and illegals, where else would you live but behind a gate? Democrats keep voting for this. Hence the $63 BILLION dollar budget deficit. Live like the politicians and MSNBS talking heads funded by Pfizer. With security. DUH! See the meth heads dancing and the gangs stealing? Its what everybody votes for here.
And, in true California fashion, house prices here probably went up 15% this year.
Housing supply did not go up because of this.
@@Orcinus1967 It sure didn't. It probably decreased. There are now fewer multi-million dollar homes for the 3% who can afford them.
Remember last year a video post up dates on his hikes that the ground was shifting now this .Really sad be safe everyone
Don't stay the earth could literally swallow you..Prayers
Literally ALL of those residents knew full and well, they live in a slide zone. Their problem. Dont raise my insurance rates because of their poor decision to purchase/live, there.
“Maybe because he thinks everybody that lives in this area is rich and wealthy, but that is not the case.” YES THAT IS EXACTLY THE CASE. Rich people demanding a taxpayer funded handout.
“Gated community” well a poor gated community is a prison soooooo
Be careful. It's a Blue State. You're not implying that Democrats are rich, and trying to get richer by defrauding...the Government are you?
Google street view can't go up there because it's all gated off, screams pretty posh to me.
Devastating. Prayers for you all.
Im in Alaska and i knew they were going to say Portuguese Bend. Its been shifting for decades. The road crew works there year round repairing gaping cracks...
Some people are so delusional choosing their homes over their life are they going to wait until the house falls on top of them to leave 😮
Yeah, because everyone has unlimited funds to leave their homes, shithead.😂
And in Portuguese Bend, the ground is collapsing everywhere. The houses will fall down on them, too, if they stay.
Some people don’t the option. Did you even watch the video?
so delusional that theyd rather gamble on their home they have been in for decades then gamble on the streets homeless, I think id take the home too... careful calling people delusional before you bother thinking about their actual situation and the actual hardships they face, have some empathy.
I feel so bad for these homeowners. Most have spent their whole lives paying the mortgage to pay off their home. If it were my family, I’d want to leave & probably would but how do you pay the mortgage & then rent someplace else to live? They are in a no win situation. They need help…..maybe Newsome has some money to help them….perhaps that $25,000 they are paying illegals to buy homes could be better used helping tax paying Californians losing their home to an earth shattering situation like this? Right Governor Newsome?
Wow, excellent comments, really good to see so many people with good heads on their shoulders.
Newsom taking to long on anything is the way he rolls. If these were immigrants there would be plenty of cash.
Give them what Maui got, $2000 per household, not each individual.
Why should they get anything? They chose to build or buy there knowing that the ground is always moving. Don't they have insurance? Or were they refused because of where their house was? Kinda like trying to get insurance in a flood plain.
@SarahGreen523 Because $2000 per household is a slap in the face. What is that going to pay for, won't even buy new carpets.
@@vickybachert8298 That is just a quick er check. They’ll get a lot more help than that trust me! Know for a fact!
It's amazing that people with a ton of wealth with equate it with being hard-working, as if someone living cheque to cheque in a crappy little apartment while busting their balls at an Amazon warehouse is poor because they "aren't working hard enough".
I would say 90% of the people I've ever met who aren't struggling financially are not "working hard" at all. They have easy jobs that happen to pay a lot of money.
And the only reason I plant that figure at 90% instead of 100% is because I deal with blue collar tradesmen regularly.
"as if someone living cheque to cheque in a crappy little apartment "; you do mean, "as if someone living *check to check* in a crappy little apartment "; where you from?
@@jerryc3050 "where you from"?
@@BigChungus-zg6zw girls, girls......stop it.
@@jerryc3050 obviously you guys are not rich.
"Cheque" is the British version of American "check." You're clearly commenting from outside the U.S.
Meanwhile they don't show up down hill here when we suffer a street takeover and business were robed and vandalized .
Pay taxes
It be yo owns peoples who be doin da takeovers and robbin and sheet.
What are they expecting to save by staying? Time to get the movers and go to a safer place before you really lose everything, including your lives, people…
This isn’t gonna stop. Folks that live there are better off cutting their losses. Start over somewhere else. For decades people have known about this. It can’t be a surprise.
When your house moves off its original property line ,is it still your house ,if your property disappeared does the property taxes go with it
Our heart of hearts goes out to you all . Home owners Insurance does not pay anything? Did you all contact Red Cross or your area Counsels ? Is your homes built on a garbage dump half way or mountains ? Shifting 30 yr home owners wow my son & I pray hard truly for you all . 😢
Midwest land is gravely undervalued.
Where it is safe there is 10 men to 1 woman so they act differently but not better.
@@teresadragstream8648 Yeah, where tubes come out of the sky and suck your home apart. 😅 At least it is over faster than this, I guess? My folks were from Missouri and moved to California in 1959. They preferred earthquakes, but also bought a hillside house that was anchored to bedrock and not on a clay landslide.
@@toomignon You get some warning...
Except for the tornados.
How tragic to lose your home, bad choices aside. Some of these people could be elderly and need a lot of assistance with moving.
Average house price there is 1.9 million. I believe they can afford movers.
@@barryf5479 That wasn't what they paid for them 20-30 years ago. And, they're unsellable today.
The original developers and the city/county are criminally libel for ever allowing homes to be built on land the was known to be unstable. There were studies done in the ‘30’s by civil engineers, who stated no buildings should be built on that land. The city ignored it, and gave the developers the right to build. Follow the money.
@@barryf5479Not if all their money is wrapped up in a mortgage. Many middle class people will put their life savings into a house as an investment. Many of those folks are land poor, but now they’re just going to be poor.
@@barryf5479 Only if you are willing to buy their houses now.
I grew up there in the 1970s. Such great memories. Went to college in the 1980s up north and never came back after my parents died in the early 2000s.
Where up North do you live? Ross? Marin County?
When was this gated community built? It looks like this region was a 'nature preserve'.
It was probably 'zoned' as park reserve because folks at one point knew this was dangerous land to build on. So what happened?
Did someone BUILD illegally? Or get greedy and sell land they shouldn't have to builders?
You can’t beat Mother Nature . It’s going to do what it has to do.
Good luck to all the residents. So sad for your situation.
If the governor declared an emergency what difference would it make? Would the ground suddenly decide not to move?
It does free up money for relocation and temp housing. But it seems a lot of people are trying to stay.
I had no idea this was going on. Praying for all involved.
That's tough looking at this disaster
When your house starts sinking into the primordial mud, it shouldn't take an evacuation order to tell you to start packing your bags. And the guy that is "staying?" Well that is not going to have a happy ending.
Anyone remember Harry R. Truman and his Mount St Helens Lodge? That same attitude, probably a similar ending.
Anyone else find this reminiscent of the idiots who refused to leave Mount Saint Helens in the early 80s? ..... Just so sad.
No taxpayer money for them. They made a bad decision and should not be bailed out.
but illegals can, right? now the illegals get $150,000 free for a down on a house, ILLEGALS. no American gets this, trust me, no veteran, so many homeless Americans, but illegals, sure come right in and get free everything, just vote demoncrat!
But like the guy said, their entire value is connected to their paid off mansions.
Nothing like a little class-envy to make yourself feel superior, eh? Let's hope all YOUR decisions are as free from fate's paybacks as you think they are, pal.
@@jamessteele7010 "paid off mansions" get a grip, please. if you knew this area, it is not BEL AIR or BEVERLY HILLS, seriously. my mom bought a house here in the 70s, she was a frickin' waitress, okay? she worked hard everyday and she NEVER GOT WELFARE OR HANDOUTS, she worked. all of us kids worked too. ILLEGALS can come here, drop anchors and get paid to sit back and everything is free for them, our laws are not respected, we are drowning now and people resent others who actually are citizens and are having misfortune, THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA, our priorities are bass-ackwards, if you get my drift. wake up America, your Country is calling you. America First, after God Himself, this means OUR FAMILY.
Just like those fancy new Condos on Hollywood Blvd. Built right on top of a fault line.
Let them stay - no aid no insurance no power make them pay for porta potties
Why are they building homes where the land is like this
Nobody is going to feel sorry for you. Don't blame Gavin Newsome.
I personally can't stand Nesom, but let's be fair - what the hell can he possibly do to remedy this problem, beside bestowing everyone affected with taxpayer's money?
Well he gives a shit ton of $$ it to the illegals. Why not the legal residents? Ya know, who pay the taxes in this state? How much does it cost to give illegals free health care? They don't even know. Somewhere between $3-6 BILLION a year. Anyone who is really rich, has already moved out of CA. And they've taken their companies, employees, and that tax and payroll revenue with them.
An entire town is ...sinking into the Earth. Meanwhile, i ain't got no electric.
Rich folk problem's.
👍that's what I said
Building where you shouldn't hs been a problem for rich and poor for millenia. Please.
Every single one of those homes have in ground swimming pools. Their money will be fine. They arent starving or hurting. Get a job like the rest of us. Boohoo. Your bad decisions lead to this.
They have jobs fool. How do you think they can afford CALIFORNIA. Get a life hick.
The City of San Francisco is also built on hills, very steep hills in fact. Why aren't they having these same problems?
Bail out or not, these properties value are decreasing day by day. More and more people are aware of the situation, and I doubt there will be a lot of buyer interest in living here nor investing here.
"He didnt give us the time of day"
So what, he's supposed to predict and ask mother nature when a land movement will happen? Stupid.
Those folks need to straight up leave. No time for denial.
I’m sympathetic but these people all knew the risks of buying property there.
Just had a RUclips recommendation of a similar news report dated six years ago saying that Rancho Palos Verdes homeowners were experiencing this exact same issue.
They knew what to expect back then.
People get out fast! No negotiation! Mother Earth is not playing!
How were these people allowed to build there. Can't build in wetlands so you should not be able to build near faultlines
Yeah. No one should buy these houses.
0:09 Fun fact! The house on the left at 0:09 is for sale! Price reduced to $1.45M. “Nearly half the home shows no adverse effects of the land movement.” I think they should update the listing.
Screw your bubble gum rich guy problems, you have no sympathy for me so why would I have it for you.
*RICH PERSON'S PROBLEMS!*
Annoying that the cops care so much about people looting abandoned houses. Why?
But, But, the view. We will just have to move to another torn down hill and filled in with loose dirt and hope that it doesn't fall apart. I have some land at the bottom of a 150 year old dam for sale.
Granted, I haven't been in that area since I used to bike ride around the peninsula 40 years ago, BUT - they let people build more homes out there???
...on the earthquake fault???
...where they used to re-surface a one mile stretch of P.V. Drive South, several times a year???
Not a fault line. Slide zone.
@@JBoy340a There's a pretty active extension of the San Andreas fault that runs through there. At least, that's what they called it back then.
I recall they had signs on P.V. Drive South, warning of "constant land movement, next 7/10ths of a mile".
How much did those houses cost before this all happened?????
Well the theives know now
People that stay, had bettered pray these homes do not fall in on them!
Landslides have always occurred here, for millennia (if not centuries).
You don't know what a millennia is.
It's ironic one of RPV's neighboring cities is called ROLLING Hills.
@@mjg239 silly.
It's probably unsafe to live in that entire area. Residents should be made to evacuate those houses in case of gas leaks and house collapses. There isn't going to be any fix for this land movement situation. It's dangerous driving into the area for any vehicles. When the heavy rains begin again it will only get worse. The developers should be sued. There's no way they wouldn't have known that land was unstable. Those residents are going to lose all the value of their houses and they should vacate as soon as possible.
Back in the 70s my friends mom owned a home up there. Beautiful place.
Property taxes be lot lower
“We aren’t rich…”
Houses worth over a million dollars is rich to me… 🤷♂️
They were worth millions...
House value means nothing, Income is more important. They need help.
Buying the house in the 80’s was so much more affordable and paid off by now. If the current situation hadn’t happened, those houses would be worth millions, but that doesn’t mean that the owners have millions in the bank.
their house values just dropped 50% and if the homes arent entirely paid off (most people have a mortgage in America) then guess what, they aint rich lol. This used to be middle class 40 years ago... youre just conditioned to think people with some decent properties are filthy rich these days, its funny but sad what has been normalized.
@@hajnika1111 Is that your definition of rich ?
Enough of these Rich people crying Poor!! 🤣
Mother Nature will always win. Sinking & sliding. Time to move on. No way will the state even attempt to fix that (nor should they). Everyone should be fully insured (flood, ground & regular homeowners insurance) just in case.
Who in the hell was stupid enough to build in Portuguese Bend???
God won't help you with that attitude, get ready for the heat.
@@sportsbesthighlightschanne1052this touches at a lil deeper issue, the real ones going to Hell are the people who built, marketed, and sold these houses knowing full well the land was a concern. Apparently, they've known since the 70's but your acting people leaving RUclips comments are the ones going to Hell. Get your head outta your ass
Rich people
How can we fill the position of women who need protection in the most important healthcare providers of our life? How do we know which ones to trust?!
So many law makers are trying to use reproductive healthcare against us when the real doctors are reaching out to us to find our trusted partners. How do we know?