"Orks Skyrocket in Warhammer 40k from New Points Update!" Pro Player gives insight on how to win!

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @zetta-slow-gobbo
    @zetta-slow-gobbo 4 дня назад +3

    Just a spitball, what if Kommandos got the ability to split squads like the Sisters Immolator transport rule? Then you could float around 2 squads of 5 and could justify the higher cost and then it's still a full runnable squad out of a Kill Team box.

  • @brendanarmstrong7802
    @brendanarmstrong7802 8 дней назад +12

    Orks are utterly broken, and I don't know how anyone can argue otherwise. They're literally all green, and as we all know, green is best.

  • @Phlebas99
    @Phlebas99 9 дней назад +7

    posted 1 minute ago?
    I was 1 minute late then! WAAAAAAAGH!

  • @Darkja
    @Darkja 9 дней назад +13

    Nice, but as a Squig enjoyer i still wanted cheaper Squghog Boyz and Squigosaurs :(, someday...

    • @Swornvulkan
      @Swornvulkan 8 дней назад +1

      160 pts for squighog boys is way to expensive

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  8 дней назад +1

      yeah someday..... sadly for now those models blow

    • @Darkja
      @Darkja 8 дней назад

      @@Happykrumpingwargaming007 here i am, sitting on maxed out Squighog Boyz, Beastboss on Squigosaur and Mozrog... just waiting, bidding my time, and when that time comes... SO SHALL I !!!! WAAAGH!

    • @kellyhoesing2573
      @kellyhoesing2573 8 дней назад

      Just need squigbosses updated to give their unit +1 to attack rolls

    • @Wuzdakka
      @Wuzdakka 8 дней назад

      Extra ap on the charge would be spicy

  • @concrescience3642
    @concrescience3642 7 дней назад

    I'm now looking at my armies with the mindset 'can this handle a green tide'

  • @MrSmitejr
    @MrSmitejr 8 дней назад

    Wish you (and others) would link other of your videos you mention in the video description. Having trouble finding the deffkopta video

  • @Bigg_hunter
    @Bigg_hunter 8 дней назад +2

    i love the big mek with 20 boys because you can give him the smoky gubbinz enhancement to give the unit stealth, the -1 to hit is most effective against the anti chaff guns that boyz fear and it makes the unit so much more tanky.

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  8 дней назад

      yeah i get that, particularly in the dread mob detachment

    • @terricon4
      @terricon4 7 дней назад

      big mek, painboy, stealth, haven't tried it but that might be interesting... though normall warboss is still probably better than painboy I am curious to see how much dmg it could soak up.

  • @marauder340
    @marauder340 22 часа назад

    I'm still hoping they'd give Trukks and Battlewagons the Speed Freeks keyword. Those two were literally part of a Kult of Speed box set in the past.
    It'd open up some lines of play to give the detachment a little more oomph for not a lot of changes detachment rules-wise (aside from removing the restriction for Blitza Fire and Dakkastorm)

  • @WontonDestruction
    @WontonDestruction 8 дней назад +1

    I'd love to see you do a video on some list ideas for CSM post MFM!

  • @gealgain2420
    @gealgain2420 8 дней назад

    The difficulty with writing points is balancing the various detachments. For orks especially, different units gain so many synergies and buffs in their specialized detachment.

  • @personpeoplehime
    @personpeoplehime 7 дней назад

    I don't think two rigs are necessarily a replacement for ghaz, especially if the opponent has armor of contempt. But it's cool that they're an option now

  • @carolineturingds
    @carolineturingds 4 дня назад

    I feel like the main thing going on for Orks right now is that you can present a situation on the table where you have many credible threats on different places.
    We're taking this list to a team event soon, what do you think about it? :
    War Horde
    Ghazghkull + 3 meganobz
    Warboss mega (+2" enhancement) + 5 meganobz
    Beastboss + 10 snagga boyz
    Warboss (dev wounds) + 5 nobz
    Warboss + 5 nobz
    10 snagga boyz
    2x10 gretchin
    2x5 flash gitz
    5 stormboyz
    2x Kill rig
    2x Trukks

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  4 дня назад

      hey bud, i do list reviews for a profession you can book a call at my KoFi link in the Video description! Also... i think kill rigs blow after running them for several games sadly

  • @bigdaveyeo350
    @bigdaveyeo350 9 дней назад +3

    I need to see a game where there is 18 def koptas in the army!!!

    • @jackchan3235
      @jackchan3235 8 дней назад

      Only worried about the anti fly from marines

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  8 дней назад

      i did it as a meme in kult of speed

    • @bigdaveyeo350
      @bigdaveyeo350 8 дней назад

      @@Happykrumpingwargaming007 time for a serious list of them 🤣

    • @dakuzni
      @dakuzni 8 дней назад +2

      Mems are mems, but I’m on my 3 games win streak with my speed freekz list 🤭😬 with 12 koptas, could not fit extra 6

    • @terricon4
      @terricon4 7 дней назад +1

      That's been every game I've played the past two or so months. I've been doing speed freaks, and they are the best SF unit by far even before this point cut. Though, if doing casual with legends allowed, you can bring in 3 units of 3 big shoot koptas (that can still be equipped with all rokkits, or even all KMB if you want) so you could have 27 deffkoptas on the table. The chinork can also visually fit, but it really just isn't worth it most of the time... though a transport that can come in off the edge with some beast boyz to target enemy vehicles or monsters is also not to be underestimated... might have to try that sometime.

  • @3rdmonkey277
    @3rdmonkey277 8 дней назад

    One thing I like Ghaz for is doing more than 2 damage. A lot of our army is limited to damage 2 and that hurts against -1 damage units. Kill rigs could help replace that damage though.

  • @runeh3022
    @runeh3022 8 дней назад +1

    I think that the issue with the Kommandos as cheap 5-Ork squads are not as much an issue in and of themselves, but they would add massive value to Zogrod and his Gretchins in a lot of lists, as you could guarantee he got to use his Scout move at the start. Not that a turn1 Waagh is always optimal, but a lot of list don't have the melee power to take him out quickly if he tags things in the opponent's backfield and even if you focus him down, it is often worth it for he Ork player to just gain territory on the table and position themselves.

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  8 дней назад

      i mean so? no one is complaining about space marine scouts which are waaaaay better than a 5 man kommando squad would be

    • @runeh3022
      @runeh3022 8 дней назад

      @@Happykrumpingwargaming007 read my comment again. :-) It's not that the Kommandos are too good for their point in and of themselves, but that they make it next to impossible to offer any counterplay to Zogrod when combined. I'd happily see them at lower cost snd at 5 man squads if the Zogrod and 22 friends bomb got nerfed. :-) The game's #1 throw a spanner in the works unit...

  • @terricon4
    @terricon4 7 дней назад

    Just remember, a Deff dread with 4 kustom mega blastas, a mek behind him, and 2 stratagems can deal 13.5 wounds to a land raider average per turn, a model with around twice it's own cost.
    Now... granted it's got 4 hazardaus per gun doing this, so fails on 1 and 2s, meaning an average of 4 mortal wounds taken if it does this, but for orks that lack shooting normally against armor, this is one dense and hidable, yet fairly durable unit, that can really mess up some tough targets that orks normally struggle against. And yes it blows itself half apart when it does this... but if it survives the enemies next turn, that's what the mek behind it is there fore, and you can rotate this spam across each deff dread each turn if needed. And with potentially six 10 man mobs of grotz, 3 stratagems a round isn't hard to come by.
    Now, it's a very gambly unit like this, but also quite fun, and very hard for the enemy to predict what's going to happen with a few of these on the table. Though you do need to play a bit cagey with them, abnormal for orks but if you're doing lootas and other range focus orks, it's doable.
    I see them as like one shot anti armour weapons, for X cost, I delete your 1.5 or 2X cost vehicle if I play it right. If they lack armour... any heavy or medium infantry will also have a truly terrible time with these guys. I just see them as helping to hold that gap against vehicles orks otherwise suck at most of the time.

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  7 дней назад +1

      you are also using all of your strategems on that one unit and making the rest of the list relatively toothless

  • @PonyMonbana
    @PonyMonbana 8 дней назад

    I fight a Kult of speed army at a 60 gt, and it was good. He ended 4th, 4/1.
    He got 18 koptas, so got a freaking points drop...
    Olivier Herpes Chambon, Rubelles GT

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  8 дней назад +1

      surprising and nice to hear!

    • @PonyMonbana
      @PonyMonbana 8 дней назад

      @@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Now he got 75 more points, the List :
      + WARLORD: Char1: Deffkilla Wartrike
      + ENHANCEMENT: Wazblasta (on Char1: Deffkilla Wartrike)
      & Fasta Than Yooz (on Char3: Warboss)
      + NUMBER OF UNITS: 19
      + SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (5x2) + (3x6) - Assassination: 3 Characters
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      CHARACTER
      Char1: 1x Deffkilla Wartrike (90 pts)
      1 with Deffkilla boomstikks, Killa jet, Snagga klaw
      • Warlord
      Enhancement: Wazblasta (+10 pts)
      Char2: 1x Mek (45 pts)
      1 with Kustom mega-slugga, Killsaw
      Char3: 1x Warboss (100 pts)
      1 with Kombi-weapon, Twin slugga, Attack squig, Power klaw
      Enhancement: Fasta Than Yooz (+35 pts)
      OTHER DATASHEETS
      5x Flash Gitz (80 pts)
      • 1x Kaptin
      1 with Choppa, Snazzgun
      • 4x Flash Gitz
      4 with Choppa, Snazzgun
      • Ammo Runt
      5x Flash Gitz (80 pts)
      • 1x Kaptin
      1 with Choppa, Snazzgun
      • 4x Flash Gitz
      4 with Choppa, Snazzgun
      • Ammo Runt
      11x Gretchin (40 pts)
      • 10x Gretchin
      10 with Close combat weapon, Grot blasta
      • 1x Runtherd
      1 with Grot-smacka, Slugga
      11x Gretchin (40 pts)
      • 10x Gretchin
      10 with Close combat weapon, Grot blasta
      • 1x Runtherd
      1 with Grot-smacka, Slugga
      10x Kommandos (135 pts)
      • 1x Boss Nob
      1 with Slugga, Power klaw
      • 9x Kommandos
      1 with Breacha ram
      1 with Burna, Close combat weapon
      1 with Close combat weapon, Rokkit launcha
      6 with Choppa, Slugga
      • Bomb Squig, Distraction Grot
      10x Nobz (210 pts)
      • 1x Boss Nob
      1 with Power klaw, Slugga
      • 9x Nob
      9 with Power klaw, Slugga
      • 2x Ammo Runt
      6x Warbikers (140 pts)
      • 1x Boss Nob on Warbike
      1 with Close combat weapon, Twin dakkagun, Power klaw
      • 5x Warbiker
      5 with Choppa, Close combat weapon, Twin dakkagun
      3x Warbikers (70 pts)
      • 1x Boss Nob on Warbike
      1 with Close combat weapon, Twin dakkagun, Power klaw
      • 2x Warbiker
      2 with Choppa, Close combat weapon, Twin dakkagun
      6x Deffkoptas (200 pts)
      • 6x Deffkopta
      6 with Kopta rokkits, Slugga, Spinnin’ blades
      6x Deffkoptas (200 pts)
      • 6x Deffkopta
      6 with Kopta rokkits, Slugga, Spinnin’ blades
      6x Deffkoptas (200 pts)
      • 6x Deffkopta
      6 with Kopta rokkits, Slugga, Spinnin’ blades
      1x Megatrakk Scrapjet (80 pts)
      1 with Nose drill, Rokkit cannon, 2x Twin big shoota, Wing missiles
      1x Megatrakk Scrapjet (80 pts)
      1 with Nose drill, Rokkit cannon, 2x Twin big shoota, Wing missiles
      1x Megatrakk Scrapjet (80 pts)
      1 with Nose drill, Rokkit cannon, 2x Twin big shoota, Wing missiles
      1x Trukk (65 pts)
      1 with Big shoota, Spiked wheels, Wreckin' ball
      1x Trukk (65 pts)
      1 with Big shoota, Spiked wheels, Wreckin' ball

  • @TK_1252
    @TK_1252 9 дней назад

    I am hyped, Orks are back, I knew it, we never really loose, do we? WAAAGH!
    Looking for some rematches with the pals to see how they perform. Are you going to share some thoughts on new List options?

  • @SupaNub5
    @SupaNub5 8 дней назад

    I've been playing dreadmob since codex, I just love it although knew I wasn't playing optimal, now my list isn't too bad,
    gorkanaut+morkanaut, 2x10 lootas with SAG, battle wagon, 2x5MANZ with mek, 3 gretchin, 2 mek, snikrot, and a 3xskorcha deffdread (added in since the points cut), I am hoping I can just fling the dread T1 to bait any high AP shooting out, if I can delete their high AP T2, it's worth 120 points

  • @blakekittrell6649
    @blakekittrell6649 8 дней назад

    Kommandos are great! I've been using them and worked great vs any aggressive armies or reducing effectiveness of land raider redeemer

  • @LuisGustavo-hg4vp
    @LuisGustavo-hg4vp 8 дней назад

    I love the killrig, i often get people of guard with the torrent, and i warn people about it, but no one expects lose 2 terminators to a ork overwatch. The lethal hits, is a little cosmetic, i never plan to get that, the +1 strengh btw, in the snagga range is interesting, the strengh is usualy 5, 5 to 6 is otfen +1, to wound.

    • @LuisGustavo-hg4vp
      @LuisGustavo-hg4vp 8 дней назад

      The lack of beastsnagga keyword on wortsnagga males sense lore accuraty

  • @thelegendsmith3063
    @thelegendsmith3063 5 дней назад

    Hows a solo beats boss on squig or mozrog sound as a tech piece rapid ingress unit of course

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  4 дня назад

      what does it do for you?

    • @thelegendsmith3063
      @thelegendsmith3063 4 дня назад

      @Happykrumpingwargaming007 beastboss could rapid and free heroic help out something in theory moz can probably solo a tank that doesn't have a 2+ save but it's just a theory I was thinking about.

  • @timg.7463
    @timg.7463 8 дней назад

    I still don't get why everyone who plays Ghaz takes exactly 2 Meganobz. Aren't they good in multis with his buffs and also function as a quite good bodyguard?

  • @manuelquintana2225
    @manuelquintana2225 8 дней назад

    Even though there was no change in points, is there good value taking 2 units of 5 flash gitz putting them in a battlewagon and have a Mek buff the wagon?

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  8 дней назад

      there is a reason for it, but when you take ard case you lose firing deck... which means its now T10 :(

  • @Chloe34876
    @Chloe34876 8 дней назад

    It looks like GW is going to give Guard Ratlings the Kommandos treatment.

  • @runeh3022
    @runeh3022 9 дней назад

    A certain Ork player in Bergen is quite happy with all of this. I'm just happy the Killa Kans did not get a boost :-P Most was well-deserved though to be fair.

  • @Mud9
    @Mud9 8 дней назад

    If youre running war horde and you dont own flash gits, would you run 3x3 deffkopters?

  • @jackchan3235
    @jackchan3235 8 дней назад

    On my list i have 2*3 kopters, deep strike in the back to ruin their day. Also i managed to blast GK termies 😂 this was before point drop.

  • @MazariPL
    @MazariPL 8 дней назад

    We still need keyword for Zodgrod, better da big hunt detach rule, pts drop for squigosaur and mozrog and squighog boyz. Rig needs lethals on 4+ at the very least.

  • @AncientIrishCelt
    @AncientIrishCelt 9 дней назад

    Been a while since I checked in but I'm happy for da Boys back in the game. Kinda miffed at my WE getting points nerfs though

  • @JS-vu8po
    @JS-vu8po 8 дней назад

    WE lost a unit? All i had to do was swap a MoE with Glaive for Kharn and my list is the same...

  • @RowdyRascal420
    @RowdyRascal420 6 дней назад

    6 rigs wouldn’t be legal would it?!?

  • @sdyoungii
    @sdyoungii 9 дней назад

    Where da Boyz at!?

  • @thelegendsmith3063
    @thelegendsmith3063 5 дней назад

    Man you my dude but big mek is a beast ignore enemy models and terrain cant screen moce block or stop the boys brick and he went down lad was already an auto include for me in every detachment

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  4 дня назад

      i have definitely seen some people love him!

    • @thelegendsmith3063
      @thelegendsmith3063 4 дня назад

      @Happykrumpingwargaming007 oh yeah dude was auto include at index but I'm currently on stompah bs and dragging down the winrate with sub optimal builds 😆 🤣 but the boys brick with big mek and warboss is always there with press it fastah for buffs without hazardous

  • @Waagghhboy
    @Waagghhboy 8 дней назад

    Didn’t you say last video that Orks didn’t need a additional unit because we already had plenty of units … the other factions gritting hit was inevitable

  • @MagicDad
    @MagicDad 8 дней назад

    WAAAGH!!!!

  • @jackchan3235
    @jackchan3235 8 дней назад

    No to gaz. We can get more boyz

  • @stephenryder3331
    @stephenryder3331 7 дней назад

    I don't think Gaz is necessary.

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  7 дней назад

      a man after my own heart

    • @stephenryder3331
      @stephenryder3331 7 дней назад

      ​@@Happykrumpingwargaming007i genuinely think he isn't. I'd rather take more units and saturate the board!!! Lots of Ork pressure

  • @kellyhoesing2573
    @kellyhoesing2573 8 дней назад

    The fools just made TSons less expensive to bandwagon!

  • @warp5p1d3r6
    @warp5p1d3r6 9 дней назад

    the last thing we wanted was orks being good again, such a braindead faction

    • @ThePaintedHope
      @ThePaintedHope 9 дней назад +5

      Who is this "we" ?

    • @warp5p1d3r6
      @warp5p1d3r6 9 дней назад

      @@ThePaintedHope me and my imaginary friends in the crimson fists

    • @u.b.5366
      @u.b.5366 9 дней назад +1

      Why does every faction have to be 4d chess? Some like the challenge in the staging and then charge and roll some dice.

    • @ViolosD2I
      @ViolosD2I 9 дней назад

      How can you be on this channel and still think that?
      Orks ain't no wolves.

    • @Happykrumpingwargaming007
      @Happykrumpingwargaming007  8 дней назад

      eeehhh id say this is not an accurate statement