GRAVE ROBBING? Coffins in the Open/OPEN COFFINS Frank Heyer, St.ValentinesMassacre. Forest Home Cem.

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  • @FacesoftheForgotten
    @FacesoftheForgotten  3 года назад +89

    The two little boys who died as shown starting at the 8:20 mark, are Lars, age 6, and his brother Eddie, age 2, who died 2 days later in 1890 of diphtheria. Their parents Lars (1861-1931) and Frieda (1865-1931) are also buried on the plot. (From the amazing book - "CHICAGO ETERNAL", by Larry Broutman). www.amazon.com/Chicago-Eternal-Larry-Broutman/dp/1893121747

  • @MichelleJune67
    @MichelleJune67 3 года назад +167

    am I the only one who finds it a bit spooky to see him enter the cemetery and have a black caped "person" walking by? LOL

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  3 года назад +32

      she appears later in this episode, like an apparition in the distance!! 😊 (watch closely...)

    • @MichelleJune67
      @MichelleJune67 3 года назад +14

      @@FacesoftheForgotten omg I didn’t notice..like I will hate watching it for a 3rd time...NOT..LOVE your work.. honestly one of the best channels I watch

    • @annreeves1983
      @annreeves1983 3 года назад +12

      I saw that too! He's awesome at this. I have to give him credit!

    • @wendysuemesny3757
      @wendysuemesny3757 3 года назад +12

      My fav channel of the few of these is subscribe to. He's awesome! As an architect and historian, we get it all with him! My fav part is that he gets down and dirty, tries to get in and shows all he can. The back stories bring the dead back to life in their contributions or lack of as bad people maybe, but it's the story of their lives!

    • @stevensardinta93
      @stevensardinta93 3 года назад +13

      When she turns her head to look at him her face is all ghastly white

  • @catherinedegreif8500
    @catherinedegreif8500 4 года назад +36

    I used to work with that young man’s mother (CPD) and I remember this accident. You are so compassionate when you speak - I love your videos. ❤️

    • @oscargreif7794
      @oscargreif7794 3 года назад

      My name is Oscar Greif
      Greetings from Holland

  • @cliffmounts7878
    @cliffmounts7878 3 года назад +7

    My mom and sister and step dad are all buried there. I visit every other Saturday. I miss them so much.. God Bless All....

  • @p99guy
    @p99guy 3 года назад +64

    While its not tradional in my familiy, to be cremated.... I just don’t see the point of
    Me being placed in a hole, that withen
    30 years or so , nobody will even remember that knew me. We are only here a short time in the grand scheme of things. Memorials are really for the living,
    Not for the remains beneith.
    I’m just going to be scattered on my grandfather’s farm where I had soo many
    Good memories as a kid. Its as good as it gets for me.

    • @Ryan-re1rs
      @Ryan-re1rs 3 года назад +1

      But when the next guy like this who walks into a cemetery sees your grave he will wonder who you were and what path you chose in life. That's the point of a cemetery.

  • @juneaustin1487
    @juneaustin1487 3 года назад +18

    You are an extremely nice respectful gentleman. A pleasure watching your videos.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  3 года назад +2

      Thank you, that’s very kind of you June. Glad to have you part of the group, this is fun -and what a bunch of great people we have.

  • @mookyo9602
    @mookyo9602 4 года назад +86

    Anyone have insight on why some of us find cemeteries so fascinating? I have been since I can remember. Such interesting history....thanks for taking me on your walk...may the souls of the faithful departed through the mercy of God rest in peace...amen🙏my mom taught me this prayer to say when passing a cemetery.💜💜💜✌

    • @patricialenaburg6553
      @patricialenaburg6553 4 года назад +8

      Cause we have the blood of ghouls LOL

    • @kittymistique6117
      @kittymistique6117 4 года назад +9

      I don’t think that anyone find it fascinating. It’s just a mystery to where that soul has gone after it has left the body. According to the Bible the soul goes to either heaven or hell. Do you think there are more people living or more people dead? My husband says there are more people who are dead than alive. That may be true considering since the world was created.

    • @patricialenaburg6553
      @patricialenaburg6553 4 года назад +28

      @@kittymistique6117 I have no doubt where the soul has gone, I am fascinated by the tombstones, and the people under those tombstones, their lives, what they once did, how they died, why they died. I just love the history of it all.

    • @diannelavoie5385
      @diannelavoie5385 4 года назад +8

      Cemeteries are quite interesting. The designs of the headstones and monuments can be elaborate and beautiful. Even more, cemeteries hold the history of the community inside of them if you do a bit of research.

    • @slideshowjojo
      @slideshowjojo 4 года назад +11

      I find them quite peaceful, and fascinating. So many people, with so many untold stories that I'd love to hear.

  • @natalieangelo54
    @natalieangelo54 3 года назад +28

    INCREDIBLE VIDEOS THAT YOU DO RON, U ARE REALLY PASSIONATE IN YOUR PRESENTATIONS, LOVE HOW YOU GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE HISTORY OF EACH GRAVE , NO ONE SHOULD EVER BE FORGOTTEN 🙏❤⚘

  • @margaretdrew6093
    @margaretdrew6093 4 года назад +68

    Breaks my heart to see children's grave

    • @elizabethyanoski7196
      @elizabethyanoski7196 4 года назад +4

      I have always took my daughters to funerals and explain to her what was happing from the time she was 5 so she grew up expecting what death was and burying some one you loved and to this I can see now that she is grown she has no fear and her grandmother from her fathers mom died and my daughter flew in from her home across country to support her father in his time of need and she had not seen that side since she was 7 and they all were surprised at how well she turned out and helped her dad through it. I feel education help them to be not scared and act proper you blogs do that

    • @joannedarling502
      @joannedarling502 3 года назад

      It does me too, I end up in tears at times esp wen they were murdered

  • @TheJodilicious6
    @TheJodilicious6 3 года назад +10

    I saw someone on RUclips with these certain kind of flash lights that went to a cemetery that was incredibly old. Once they flashed the light on it instantly on the camera you could see exactly what was written on the camera. They could see alot of lettering that looked like it was completely gone. It was actually fascinating.... love your channel. Thank you for the walks with you, love the respect you have for the people you talk about.

  • @79centsoutofadollar
    @79centsoutofadollar Год назад

    So this is the 40th vid of yours I'm watching... counted them up so far and this is number 40. 40 from the beginning, watched in order, none skipped yet.
    And this one was probably your most interesting so far, I love your curiosity! When there's an open door or window, I already know Ron will be getting a shot of the inside, haha....
    LIke someone mentioned below, I don't know why some people have huge fascinations with cemetaries, but--much like you--I've had one all of my life. I love walking through cemeteries and graveyards, I find them relaxing, I find them peaceful, I love looking at the names on the stones, the dates, looking over the styles and pictures on them, the different types of stones and sculptures, the many crypts and mausoleums, any words they might have on their stones, the places where they keep the ashes, just.. all of it...
    There are some small cemeteries around here..... (I live in East Texas, currently), but unfortunately I live with someone who doesn't get the allure of graveyards. In fact, quite the opposite, my significant other is not the type to find them interesting. I mentioned to her visiting a few around here (I even suggested dropping me off for an hour or two--that she didn't have to stay)..............and her reaction is always the same:
    "Why? You don't know anyone buried there."
    Yeah, it's a person that just.... doesn't get it, ya know? Haha, and it's not like it can be explained in a way that doesn't sound weird. "I just like to look at dead peoples' final resting places"?? I mean, c'mon, she'll just think it creepy.
    But... like you... I've always held high intrigue for them. I too always wondered about their lives, wondered what they were like, wonder how life was back then or what they might have experienced....and, of course, considered the fact that some of them might not have any living relatives to visit their sites, that they're just, lost to time..... become the forgotten. Even some of the stones you find and have filmed, you find ones made of limestone that has "melted" away, as you put it. All info is erased and it's not like there's anyone left alive to tell their tales. It's almost like they've just been... removed from history. Nobody knows who they are, nobody will ever remember them. It's very sad and melancholy, strangely poetic when you think about, I'm sure you know the feeling I'm talking about, just that... "how sad..." feeling.
    So thank you for what you do, not sure I've said that yet in a comment, but thank you. For all the vids and exploration and tales.
    This is the 40th! Many more to come. I bookmarked the vids you linked me to the other day (about post mortem photography), but I don't want to skip ahead so I will watch those when I get to them via the chronological order here. I shoulda know you have made vids about it before, though!
    Okay, Gonna spend another "marathon" of watching your vids. Hopefully this won't offend you, but I've also found your vids are surprisingly easy to fall asleep to, too. You have this sort of ASMR thing going on... low, calm voice talking, walking through a very nature-y, picture-esqe environment, sometimes the background noise is birds chirping, cars going by, your faint footsteps as you make your way through the stones... sometimes rain.... and those are the best, by the way. IMO, the ones you shoot when it's raining always seems........apt, in a way. It's a very calming video and I often find myself dozing off on a few, but take that as a compliment, haha. You're like the BOB ROSS of cemeteries.
    Okay, marathoning now, probably will watch the next five or six.... but I'll comment again later, when/if I have something to say on an interesting vid of yours (although they ALL tend to be interesting, haha). Also, I'm writer, by profession... which should explain why all of my comments are "wordy" and "novel-like".
    Writer by trade and also maintain a few FB pages, my main one in which I think I'll be advertising your channel here.
    Thank you for all the journeys.
    Time for me to start watching another of yours.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  Год назад +1

      love, you started from the beginning. I cringe at some of those, the production work spartan at best. well, we got better, enjoy the 500 plus!
      and we r still going strong.

  • @loradurling2358
    @loradurling2358 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the tour. Sad about the young boy🙏🌼🌸🌺 Nice looking sculptures. Sad about the mausoleums.Thanks for your time

  • @LuckyLu602
    @LuckyLu602 3 года назад +21

    That last mausoleum with the 2 caskets, one being partially open, was very interesting yet disturbing. It seems like they were just forgotten about, as you had mentioned earlier in the video, and since there isn’t a name on that particular mausoleum, I wonder who is laid to rest there. Great video!

    • @musicgroovin
      @musicgroovin 3 года назад +4

      All of these name plates must have surely been on there but then torn off or fallen off. Can't imagine anybody being entombed without a name plate.

    • @billd.6847
      @billd.6847 3 года назад +8

      Agree, The cemetery office should know the names and have a key to the door of the mausoleum. If you look up President Garfields grave, his casket is sitting out like these, with a flag draped over it. His wife's casket is next to his.

  • @jeffkretzer1827
    @jeffkretzer1827 2 года назад +1

    Actually there's a channel that a woman tours cemeteries in Ireland, and when she views inside mausoleums, the caskets and coffins sit in the open in the mausoleum, so over there it seems common, it's not a really common occurrence in the USA though. I wonder why the lid on the right casket is busted like that. I would normally think of grave robbers, but the other casket is fine. I wonder if it's exploding casket syndrome (where so much gas from the decomposition is too much and can blow the lid off). Thank you so much for your wonderful videos. I love cemeteries!

    • @JulieObrien-f3r
      @JulieObrien-f3r Месяц назад

      Serenity sue? I watch her videos too 😊

  • @pugsunset1
    @pugsunset1 4 года назад +18

    Great video. It does look like grave robbing on a couple of them. It's a shame that no one is taking care of some of those crypts. You are either braver or crazier than I am walking on those roofs. Glad you didn't fall through one of the ceilings.

  • @creepycupcake.
    @creepycupcake. 3 года назад +1

    I LOVE your videos! You go above and beyond and I love that you do the research and tell us all the details. So many stories to be told! We have an amazing place here that I know you'd LOVE, that you would need a couple of weeks to explore! Colma, California... You'd have a BLAST! Thank you for keeping the living entertained, and the dead respected! Can't wait for the next video! 💜

  • @labeef1953
    @labeef1953 7 месяцев назад

    Regarding the hillside with the mausoleums, that hillside is actually a dune from old Lake Chicago, which was Lake Michigan’s predecessor. Yes, the lake stretched that far during the Ice Age. There was a Potawatomi village of about 2,000 people located on the grounds of what would become Forest Home Cemetery. That hillside was used by the chiefs of the tribe to discuss the issues of the day. The chiefs would stand on that hill to talk to the tribe. There were several Indian burial mounds there too, all of which were leveled save one by the pioneers. On that mound lie the first 3 graves of pioneers,and the first of what would become the cemetery. It was also the gathering spot for all the tribes who participated in the Fort Dearborn Massacre to assemble. A large granite boulder incised with an Indian chief’s face marks the exact spot. A very historic cemetery indeed, and my personal favorite.

  • @rayturano4089
    @rayturano4089 4 года назад +15

    The dog belonged to the mechanic, you're right, the German Shepard was named "Highball." Forest Park has more dead residents than live ones.

  • @gloriahanes6490
    @gloriahanes6490 4 года назад +14

    Grave robbers would look for valuables as many buried in the 1800's and even into the 1900's would wear necklaces and rings some with semi and precious stones such as a wedding ring.

  • @marybeazley7741
    @marybeazley7741 4 года назад +25

    Hi your videos are getting more and more interesting and your numbers are going up happy for you, I always learn a little history to.....take care and please no more climbing........Mary.....in Canada

  • @arameelengel7546
    @arameelengel7546 3 года назад +5

    Hello! I found your channel a few days ago. Super interesting view on parts of American history and also "meeting" ppl who have died many years ago. I feel touched by the stories you tell and a connection. Seeing all the German names on the grave stones motivated me to write a comment. It is like visiting a cemetary here. Greetings from Germany and thnx for sharing all those videos.

    • @hamsterama
      @hamsterama 3 года назад

      As you know doubt know, there were tons of German settlers in the American Midwest. The German and English languages used to co-exist with each other. There were German schools in the US, and German newspapers. There were people who would be born in a German-speaking village in the US, stay in the area throughout their life, and never learn English. Sadly, during WWI, the German culture was wiped out in the US. Germany was seen as the enemy, and people were encouraged to stop speaking the "enemies' language."

  • @IrishAnnie
    @IrishAnnie 4 года назад +7

    The open crypt may have breached due to the hillside pushing against it. The iron door is so bent, the pressure must have been tremendous pushing agains the frame.

  • @rubberlegs100
    @rubberlegs100 3 года назад +15

    That coffin in the crypt looks like it’s been pulled out of that broken tomb ❤️🙏

  • @zslis4348
    @zslis4348 3 года назад +3

    So many young lost. Thank you for helping remember them

  • @lottatroublemaker6130
    @lottatroublemaker6130 3 года назад +18

    Those two coffins in the open in that mausoleum was really odd. And the door about to fall apart. I think it is a real problem that it is families problem to take care of graves and mausoleums. It should be a public/city responsibility, so things like that would not happen.

  • @paulgrosnick9391
    @paulgrosnick9391 3 года назад +8

    The section of Dunning where those fairly new buildings are was a potter's field for many people who were killed in the Chicago fire. Many burn victims were not able to be identified. If I remember correctly, in the 1980's was when those bodies were discovered when the construction started. Construction stopped for a while so the bodies could be moved to a different potter's field.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  3 года назад +8

      you really believe they moved all the bodies??!! hmmm, nada.

  • @irishheart4768
    @irishheart4768 4 года назад +4

    Hello, from Wisconsin came across you channel I enjoy watching and learning by some of your story's about the people. Keep up the great work. 😉

  • @jamespoustka8780
    @jamespoustka8780 3 года назад +18

    Those in the hillside were connected by a tunnel from the old chapel that was tore down In the 80s it wasn't grave robbery the vaults were like that when I was a kid. They just in the matter of dekay.

    • @scdevon
      @scdevon 3 года назад +8

      A mausoleum will always fall into disrepair especially in a wet climate no matter what they tell you. In 100 years, there may not be anyone left alive who cares or is willing / able to spend the money to repair it. "It's made of granite. It will last forever". No it won't. 100 to 150 years at best.

    • @ruthannemackinnon588
      @ruthannemackinnon588 3 года назад +4

      @@scdevon that is exactly why private mausoleums are a very expensive mistake

  • @jodeofoz
    @jodeofoz 3 года назад +36

    It only takes 3-4 generations to be forgotten, our names anyway.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  3 года назад +6

      I agree!!!!!!!

    • @gdhse3
      @gdhse3 3 года назад +6

      If not less ...if you have distant families

    • @roberttilton7927
      @roberttilton7927 3 года назад +2

      Even less sometimes.

    • @jodeofoz
      @jodeofoz 3 года назад +1

      @@roberttilton7927 sadly true

    • @Samanta-van-laar
      @Samanta-van-laar 3 года назад +1

      I don't know my fam only my grandma and 1 uncle they died 24+ years ago came in bording school after that

  • @hillarymack3207
    @hillarymack3207 4 года назад +31

    They did have to put Highball down he was never gonna be the same. Poor baby. RIP Highball

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +18

      Highball looked pretty shook up in that one picture, so sad. I love dogs.

    • @mookyo9602
      @mookyo9602 4 года назад +11

      Do you think he named his dog after his favorite drink? RIP Highball! I've been a bartender for over 30years. That was a popular drink back then.🐕💜✌

    • @buicklesabre8530
      @buicklesabre8530 4 года назад +3

      @@mookyo9602 He was named highball because of his abnormally shaped testicles.

  • @michaeldickens7493
    @michaeldickens7493 3 года назад +14

    This is exactly the reason I don't understand crypts they don't last forever and whats wrong with just going back to the earth

    • @wendysuemesny3757
      @wendysuemesny3757 3 года назад +6

      I plan to! Did you know that you can be buried directly into the ground with no casket but a simple shroud or basket type coffin that breaks down and allows you to become part of the earth? I'm no tree hugger, but I think it's costly and why preservation, you will decay anyways. It's nature. Why fight it? It's fought for the living to think and picture you as in the state you were in as when alive. I say ashes to ashes and dust to dust. We are here on earth, then I'd rather become a part of it in whole. Not an ornament sitting on top taking up space.

    • @musicgroovin
      @musicgroovin 3 года назад +1

      @@wendysuemesny3757 - Is there something wrong with hugging a tree? I don't get the comments on social media from people wanting you to know they aren't a "tree hugger" as if this is supposed to be something bad.

    • @maggiemae6671
      @maggiemae6671 3 года назад

      How sad to see all these graves in disrepair. RIP to all of these poor souls. Guess it's what happens when families die out and there is no one left to maintain the burial sites. Makes one think.

  • @shellybeals2806
    @shellybeals2806 4 года назад +17

    So sad to see these graves not being taken care of. I have seen a video that explains that gasses build up when the body is decomposing and can actually blow the lid off a coffin if it isn’t ventilated correctly. The coffins also need drains in them to release the fluids into a drainage system in the crypt. This tell me that cremation is the way to go.

  • @ladysuda3807
    @ladysuda3807 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful Cemetery! Looks beautiful in the sunshine! 🌞

  • @nathancarlson3032
    @nathancarlson3032 4 года назад +20

    Solid work, keep it up 👍

  • @hh7407
    @hh7407 2 года назад

    1:04 monuments as far as the eye can see.
    6:14 that poor dog. I wondered about the dog that was barking and upset at the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. I figure it got mental anquish and PTSD, too.
    6:35 beautiful statue.
    11:35 maybe it is the coffin that used to be in that one open crypt that is now empty.
    15:59 you need a boroscope (camera). Like what they insert down off inside tight places inside planes to check for fractures and cracks. I used to manage those for the DoD. Pretty cool. There are non DoD kinds for home inspection, building inspection, etc. I've never priced them though. Maybe too expensive and maybe too difficult to carry to a site like that.
    18:33 deer are so pretty. That reminded me...our black labradors would eat acorns. None of any of our other dogs ever did that I witnessed.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  2 года назад +2

      You don’t understand, borescope cameras and those are designed for 1.5 inch to 2 inch focal length. They are for inside pipes, not for open spaces, I have already proven that suggestion doesn’t work.
      I have researched and have my own other methods, thank you for watching. 👍

  • @Mellie_H
    @Mellie_H 4 года назад +8

    Woah! I love your curiosity, and for that, I subscribed!

  • @Darbysmommy
    @Darbysmommy 3 года назад +1

    The young man, Joseph Ochocki, was born on January 5th, same as my son. My boy was also taken from me too young. Rest easy Joseph. Peace be to those that love you and will not forget you, ever.

  • @ladylucile15
    @ladylucile15 4 года назад +6

    I'm not sure why I'm so obsessed with this channel.. but I am

  • @margaretdrew6093
    @margaretdrew6093 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for showing us all these interesting graves , of interesting people. I am from the uk but have heard of some of the people

  • @caroleeb1997
    @caroleeb1997 4 года назад +6

    I wonder how old those coffins are in the last mausoleum. It looked like the dried up funeral flowers on the bottom of that first coffin.

    • @littlelamb7163
      @littlelamb7163 3 года назад +1

      I would think probably a 100 yrs old or so. The outside is pretty much falling apart too

  • @anthonybrock9435
    @anthonybrock9435 3 года назад +9

    Anthony here, from Glasgow. I dinna ken yer name, laddie. But I've just watched this (for me) first video of yers. I kinna tell you how informative, interesting, thought-provoking and aye, enjoyable this was. I'm a new subscriber and look forward to all of yer content.
    🍀🌹🍀

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  3 года назад +6

      Helloooo SCOTLAND. The mystical land of green so far away! I love it that you are here with us Anthony!! Glad you like our productions. See you soon...stay safe...

  • @babebleu57
    @babebleu57 4 года назад +8

    Very interesting...Thanks!!

  • @HouseofHighSpirits
    @HouseofHighSpirits 4 года назад +13

    It looks like one casket is exposed but still in the crypt (kind of). I’m not sure if the container on the ground is a casket, a burial vault just put in there to store it-stranger things have happened-or if it’s a sarcophagus or chest tomb type crypt. It looks more like some kind of outer burial vault, though.
    The casket looks like a metal type one that has been widely in use for probably a century, at least. You’d need a good image of the hardware to really be able to make a best guess because there are so many of these caskets in use for so long. They have the standard half or whole couch lids that are domed, the rails, the corner pieces, which don’t help by themselves, but the decorative work on the pieces might give clues.
    You could easily have smelled an animal, I think. When I lived in the country, anything from bats to deer to cattle stuck in flood plain could create enough of a stench that could spread through at least half the area of a small town. It is AWFUL. It lingers for days, then dissipates. Inside a mostly closed up building, it’s probably not too easy to dissipate. Hard to say if it’s actually anyone entombed in there without actually looking.
    Have you reported this to the cemetery? It does look like vandalism, at least. That alone is terrible. Grave robbers? That’s entirely possible. I don’t know whose mausoleum this is, but it appears to be a private one, so it’s not far fetched to think a grave robber might assume the people entombed here had wealth that meant they could have been buried with stuff that could be sold. Whatever happened, if this was done by someone, it’s horrifically disrespectful, to say the least. Perhaps the cemetery would be willing to at least repair or replace the doors to secure the mausoleum?

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +5

      Wow, you make a lot of good points here and I agree with everything you said. I think it’s probably a small animal, I didn’t even think of a bat. It’s probably dead bats or mice. The main reason is because it was not exposed to the actual vault of that mausoleum. It was an interstitial space. I’m most interested to know about the period of those coffins at the end. Also as you mention I agree that is probably a sarcophagus for a coffin, but I’ll bet the body is still in there it’s tilted where the top is facing the wall we can’t see. Good idea to alert the cemetery- I will do that.
      What saddens me when I see this is it just tells me the families are long gone, and these people are all forgotten. There’s not even any names!!

  • @caribelle1952
    @caribelle1952 3 года назад +5

    I really enjoy your videos. I love visiting cemeteries too.

  • @michaelswinehart2788
    @michaelswinehart2788 3 года назад

    The mausoleum that held the casket withe crucifix on top was a coffin inside a metal vault. The lid of the vault was not on top for whatever reason. Robbers, space, family decision, who knows. But yes, it was a casket inside the vault. If you run into this again, just look at the handles of the vault. They are never movable, but are permantly affixed to the vault. Also ron, you could see the casket sits inside of the vault. Replaces the casket being placed into a crypt type setup.

  • @ruthietoothie68
    @ruthietoothie68 3 года назад +3

    This is so sad 16 is way to young I have a daughter who was born 6 months later in July 1992 may this young man rest in peace

  • @bunssmith9988
    @bunssmith9988 3 года назад +5

    "I'm definitely not going to stand there." (Stands there anyway!) Nothing stands the test of time.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  3 года назад +5

      I am a Rebel and Outlaw, what can I say...

    • @Queen_Of_The_Sith
      @Queen_Of_The_Sith 3 года назад +2

      @@FacesoftheForgotten You keep on doing you, just don't fall in!

  • @bobbibuttons8730
    @bobbibuttons8730 4 года назад +3

    Loving your channel, just found it and I’m binge watching. Hi from Scotland

  • @rayturano4089
    @rayturano4089 4 года назад +13

    Yep a casket with a blown lid from the build up of gasses in a sealed casket. Common with mausoleums.

  • @feuquegougueul1592
    @feuquegougueul1592 3 года назад

    In French cemeteries, to read old inscriptions, enthusiasts use a "trick": A very dry piece of bread (French bread, long), to rub without damaging the stone, which makes it possible to bring out the reliefs, without aggressiveness for stone. If you are lucky enough to go to the Père Lachaise cemetery in Paris, you will notice this use on certain vaults, which make the engravings readable.
    Thanks for your very interesting post.
    Charles, from France.

  • @littlelamb7163
    @littlelamb7163 3 года назад +5

    I found info. on the two children shown in 8:27. Their names were Lars, age 6 and Eddie, age 2. Both of them died in 1890, just two days apart of of the common childhood disease back then, diptheria. . Their father, Lars Schmidt, was an undertaker. The children's parents are buried to the left of them.

  • @rayturano4089
    @rayturano4089 4 года назад +2

    The damage to those crypts may be exploding caskets, caused by the build up of vapor in a sealed casket. That's why the faceplate may have blown off. You can see leakage of corpse fluid at the bottom of several crypts in that mausoleum.

  • @MsPixi66
    @MsPixi66 4 года назад +1

    I think you are very respectful to the dead hope you are feeling better best wishes from England.

  • @11dsw
    @11dsw 3 года назад +4

    If the “container” is tapered it’s a coffin ....otherwise it’s a casket. Very interesting.

  • @rj4590
    @rj4590 4 года назад +12

    Those were caskets not coffins,which are the old fashion six sided boxes.

    • @patricialenaburg6553
      @patricialenaburg6553 4 года назад +1

      I think everyone got the jest of it, but you are correct.

    • @beegee80
      @beegee80 4 года назад +3

      @@leonardstark4806 Words evolve over time. Coffins are 6 sided boxes. Caskets are not. It's semantics. titancasket.com/blogs/funeral-guides-and-more/what-is-the-difference-between-caskets-and-coffins

    • @rj4590
      @rj4590 4 года назад +1

      @@leonardstark4806 I’m not wrong.Ask anyone in the funerary profession.

  • @craigs.546
    @craigs.546 4 года назад +7

    I just discovered your channel and I like it very much. I subscribed. Your demeaner chimes well with me.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +2

      Hey thanks Craig. Glad you enjoy it. An inspiring note, appreciate it!

  • @jacquelinecarle4224
    @jacquelinecarle4224 3 года назад +26

    I’m wondering if the corpse’s body had some how began to bloat out and the force of the bloating from their stomach pushed up the lid slightly, I find this all very fascinating, my husband thinks Im crazy says he’s going to start sleeping with one eye open, Ha ha🥴😧😜😕, but, each to his own, we don’t all like the same things in life everyone different.

    • @tesslawv693
      @tesslawv693 3 года назад +3

      Not crazy at all... Who else looks at, cleans off and prays for them but us "strange and unusual"? I say, God set us apart because it takes a special someone to do this and appreciate the beauty and peace of a Cemetery... IMHO 🌹💕🙏🏼

    • @MadHatterDJ-
      @MadHatterDJ- 3 года назад

      You should check out the channel ‘ask a mortician’ she’s talked about what happens in the grave many times and does it in such a great way. You are on the right lines. Gasses build up inside of the body (regardless of embalming). If the caskets is airtight the gas has nowhere to go, builds up and makes a way out. Go look up the channel, really fascinating for folks like us 😉

  • @TalairanPerigord
    @TalairanPerigord 3 года назад +1

    I see a lot of comments from people asking about the point of above ground "burials" or mausoleums. Funerary customs, like everything else in life, is subject to fashion and economics. In places like Louisiana, where the water table is high, above ground burials are necessary to avoid the caskets being swept away from where they are interred and polluting the water. In places like Chicago, however, mausoleums are a way of making a statement. They are a form of conspicuous consumption that says, "Look at me. I was important. My family remains important."
    As for the upkeep--I don't know what the deal is in America, but in Canada, you can buy a plot through the municipality, in which case you receive eternal care (i.e. groundskeeping). Private cemeteries do not offer this, and the land is private property, therefore left to the families.

  • @ravenheart1439
    @ravenheart1439 2 года назад +1

    I never seen the inside of a mausoleum until I watched your channel, always wondered what they were about. Thank you for going through the effort to get a look. Some are beautiful and others are down right creepy, I mean like you said, wouldn't want to be stuck in there lol..

  • @rdlaw8868
    @rdlaw8868 3 года назад +4

    We lived in Forest Park baack in the 60's-70's. I think those crypts were in bad shape then.

  • @paulrickson9796
    @paulrickson9796 3 года назад +1

    At 16:15 you touched on the subject of the families of the deceased being responsible for the upkeep for their mausoleums--at least in the cemetery you were in. All of Illinois as well? And you asked what happens when the families are no longer around. A good question! And the answer--which of course you knew--was all around you. Mausoleums have NUMEROUS problems with them. Tragically, there are mausoleums that are standing today that contain HUNDREDS of bodies of the departed and have been abandoned. The cemeteries go bankrupt or are passed on to irresponsible/uncaring/underfunded parties. And I always think (while clenching my teeth), "Well, I am SURE plenty of very good-and-sincere-sounding promises and assurances were made as to the guarantees of upkeep regarding the cemetery grounds and mausoleum(s) BEFORE THE CEMETERY AND/OR FUNERAL HOME TOOK OFF WITH THE MONEY." Yeah. They made their bucks, now didn't they? Cremation is my choice. And then in to an engraved urn I go! At the very worst I MIGHT end up in the attic of some relative in a steamer trunk or something! lol :) )

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  3 года назад

      you are absolutely correct, and it’s very appalling. cremation is a good option!!

  • @daniellewolff6948
    @daniellewolff6948 3 года назад

    What a treat to get to see some beautiful deer! I love it!

  • @jennifermiller2420
    @jennifermiller2420 3 года назад +1

    I also love history and visiting cemeteries.

  • @jayniestanley7118
    @jayniestanley7118 4 года назад +5

    That's so cool. Many years ago, the coffins were left so u could open them and sit n talk to ur lived ones. They stopped it bcz of looters. It's a shame really. Ppl r so cruel, even to the dead. Good job tho. I really enjoyed this video. Thank u.

  • @petercreedon1246
    @petercreedon1246 3 года назад +3

    I'm searching a few cemetery sites for the unmarked mausoleum's possible residents. Judging by the casket (same style my great grandfather was buried in in 1982) I'd say that the individual has probably been there since the late 60's to very early 80's. As to the person on the left hand side, it looks like they're secured in a grave liner/vault. This vault *should* have a plaque on the top that says who's buried in there.

  • @chrisgraphs1015
    @chrisgraphs1015 4 года назад +8

    Great Video. Your one of the best channels doing Graveyards. Like the stories and history you put into the video's. Heck I don't think I would have walked on top of that mausoleum.

  • @kimbellabella348
    @kimbellabella348 4 года назад +3

    There's a couple Mouseleums in Texas that are open and have a bad odor, you can walk in and touch the Caskets, it's crazy

  • @sharonfleming2729
    @sharonfleming2729 4 года назад +7

    Great video 😊 sad about the young lad that was killed 😔

  • @rejeanneusher9419
    @rejeanneusher9419 3 года назад +5

    R.I.P 😔✝️🙏🕯️🤍🕊️🌷🐨🇦🇺🦘

  • @lottatroublemaker6130
    @lottatroublemaker6130 3 года назад +3

    I saw cheap endoscopes on Wish and Aliexpress recently (stumbled upon it). Think it was for cellphone cameras.Would have been nice to have to see inside that mausoleum where the door was falling apart. So odd with that open crypt. Someone must have gotten in there. The boards on the floor, could that be remnants of a casket/coffin? Shocking!

  • @BBSYDmom
    @BBSYDmom 4 года назад +4

    I just ran across your channel.I love it!!

  • @KimberlyMills67
    @KimberlyMills67 3 года назад +1

    I'm a new subscriber. Just going back and watching all the older videos. Ron has a way of not making this weird or creepy. Amazing thing Ron is doing. 👍♥️🙏

  • @DB-yf9zj
    @DB-yf9zj 3 года назад

    When various excavations were done in this cemetery, they found Indian graves. They took the bones and buried them in a common grave with a marker. You may wish to show this some time. In addition, they brought the grave artifacts to the Forest Park library where they remain on display. This would make a very interesting video tour.

  • @vixen_vexed
    @vixen_vexed 3 года назад

    I love how you have respect for the dead, but also a slightly morbid fascination. . . like we all have, to see inside a crypt or tomb. it is very interesting to see inside after decades unseen.

  • @valeriewilliamson2839
    @valeriewilliamson2839 3 года назад +2

    I love where you travel all over! But you always come back Illinois! My friend came from Illinois! Great job!

  • @oklahomagamergirl
    @oklahomagamergirl 3 года назад +11

    Poor Highball

  • @justinhealey2408
    @justinhealey2408 3 года назад +3

    Theres an old historic cemetary in covington ky right to to Cincinnati that visit often..its a neat place

  • @timothyrouse2853
    @timothyrouse2853 3 года назад +3

    In australia a grave site isnt for ever now its locked in for 20 , or 25 years , if no one pays the fees to carry on they reuse that grave site ive seen it first hand , knocking head stones down, next day another funeral service

    • @Samanta-van-laar
      @Samanta-van-laar 3 года назад +1

      Same in holland only here u pay every year for it other wise u out

  • @musicgroovin
    @musicgroovin 3 года назад +1

    That reaction on top of the crumbling mausoleum was memorable. Must be a lot of moisture and dampness in there with years of strong, heavy rains. I wonder what it looks like inside that mausoleum. Has to be damaged in there with that wall getting pushed by the soil.

  • @brenttauscheck8147
    @brenttauscheck8147 3 года назад +1

    I filled my pants when you pulled in and the grim reaper walked across the street.

  • @janeordway4841
    @janeordway4841 4 года назад +6

    You need one of those super bright flashlights to see in that crept

  • @williamcoleman3030
    @williamcoleman3030 4 года назад +16

    I hate to nitpick but, everything that you're calling coffins are actually caskets. Caskets are rectangular, coffins are the funny shaped ones, (think Dracula).

  • @Xsilif
    @Xsilif 4 года назад +17

    You’re right about gangsters.. Jack “Legs” Diamond doesn’t have a marker at all & the cemetery won’t say where his grave is at the family’s request. When you said it smelled, were you referring to decomposition? 😳 The last mausoleum is kinda crazy how they’re in the open like that.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +10

      Yes it could’ve been body decomposition. There’s a video that I haven’t released yet where I really smell it in an open crypt area at All Saints cemetery. I talked to the custodian there and he said that the crypts didn’t have venting, it was really nasty.
      But in this case it also could’ve been a dead animal in there, like a rat or mice or squirrel. Who knows. When I looked in there it was interstitial space, not open down to into the Mausoleum itself. I was disappointed, so I think it was probably a little animals that died. Who knows tho.
      The only other thing I could add is any of the bodies from the late 1800s or early 1900s would’ve really dried out and I’m not sure they would smell that bad unless you were really close. Oh my gosh, I’m so morbid!!! 🤣

    • @MrTurtluv
      @MrTurtluv 4 года назад +3

      Some corpses, in the right (wrong?) conditions, can take hundreds of years to be fully dried out and “returned to dust”, as it were. Some just turn into foul soupy glop. 🤮

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +4

      Hey Meg-check out that coffin at the end (that’s partly open) where you can see the silk lining, it’s really freaky because the body is right there, almost easy to see if inside that vault, seems crazy sitting out --but my question is, if you look at the coffin itself, the bars that the pallbearers use on the side, they look massive, I’m sure somebody who is more of an expert that looks at this could give us a date range, because there’s no markings of names or dates anywhere there. But that coffin looks really odd, maybe when they first started making them in the old days after wood coffins...hmmm.

    • @Xsilif
      @Xsilif 4 года назад +3

      @Faces of the Forgotten I just read several articles & based on the shape and that it’s metal, my guess is that it might be from the 1960’s. Metal coffins started becoming popular about then. But I’m certainly no expert... 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +6

      @@Xsilif ~ right on, great work. That seems about right. They look kind of oversized, kind of weird looking. 60’s-ish...Really interesting. Thx!!!!

  • @patricialenaburg6553
    @patricialenaburg6553 4 года назад +7

    They must have been broken into, there was crime tape on a couple of other mausoleums, the last one definitely had 2 coffins. This was quite different, but fascinating could be back in the day, it wasn't a law that demanded the vaults, very curious. Great video

  • @valeriewilliamson2839
    @valeriewilliamson2839 3 года назад +2

    Interesting about the mausoleum s kind of creepy too!

  • @karlos543
    @karlos543 3 года назад +1

    Really enjoy your video's.
    You probably won't understand this but I love hearing the trains in the background. .I'm from the UK and your trains sound so different, yours sound soporific.
    Hope you can do our cemeterys one day, some really interesting stuff over here.
    Stay safe everyone.

  • @lisaevans3284
    @lisaevans3284 3 года назад +5

    Hi love your videos love looking at grave yards I’m in Australia

  • @adastraperaspera99
    @adastraperaspera99 4 года назад +3

    LOL "Resurrection Mary" at 3:30
    As a Chicagoan, I see you're familiar with local lore.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +1

      Glad you liked that, that was tongue-in-cheek ad lib. -as I was pulling in, she was roaming the whole cemetery all the while I was there.

  • @KellyOtto1971
    @KellyOtto1971 4 года назад +10

    The idea of my parents or myself being forgotten terrifies me.

    • @IrishAnnie
      @IrishAnnie 4 года назад +5

      There is a saying ...the last time your name is spoken, you have truly died. When I walk cemeteries, I speak the names out that I read on the stones. Not forgotten!!!!!!

    • @mysteriousjz
      @mysteriousjz 4 года назад +2

      Yes, but that's what you did to your G. G. Parents. Didn't you? Do you even know their names, let alone lives and graves

    • @joeyknoell7665
      @joeyknoell7665 4 года назад +1

      Ann S-I love the idea of speaking the names out loud.

    • @michaelgaynor6866
      @michaelgaynor6866 4 года назад +1

      I was floored to see headstone's in a Philadelphia Cemetery that were very close to one another ,one had my last name and another one had the same last name as my best friend since four grade who had passed away in 1989 in Maryland. It was uncanny!!

    • @daviebaggins
      @daviebaggins 3 года назад

      Its the fate of everyone.

  • @dlt215
    @dlt215 4 года назад +2

    If you travel,come to Philly,there’s a cemetery called ,Mt.Laurel where most famous people out of Philly are buried even the lady that started Mother’s Day is there.

    • @Richhhi
      @Richhhi 3 года назад

      You're absolutely right. He could spend a week in Mt Laurel and not cover the whole place.

  • @rocknromance78
    @rocknromance78 3 года назад

    That un named crypt with caskets, is the name maybe on the bottom in the step? Approx at 19.00

  • @MidwestFlesh
    @MidwestFlesh 4 года назад +2

    Really Really enjoying your channel! Glad I found it today! I love getting out filming these! Glad to see im not the only one filming these! Keep up the good work & stay safe out there. Hope to run into you someday in Chicago would love to say hello in person!

  • @dwderp
    @dwderp 4 года назад +2

    This has to be the number one case for cremation. Who would want to wind up like this? And these are people with money. How strange that the poor people who are buried in the ground are safe, while the rich people who are buried above ground either get defiled or have 20 tons of granite collapse on them. So sad.

    • @chocolatnoir1108
      @chocolatnoir1108 4 года назад

      above ground burial is indeed risky, nothing last forever, relatives may be gone forever, no-one to take care of, money will always be included, even using the strongest granites etc, natural disasters or vandalism can occur.

  • @gailcoffey4950
    @gailcoffey4950 4 года назад +9

    You are so interesting! Keep up the great work!

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +5

      It’s notes like that this that are very inspiring, really encourages me to keep trying to improve. Than you Gail.
      I’m investing in more and more camera equipment to make the videos smoother and more vivid, intriguing. Really glad you like the channel.

  • @johnbach1566
    @johnbach1566 3 года назад

    Love your videos of Forest Home (German Waldheim) in Forest Park. My father's whole family is buried there. I remember visiting often as a kid. I no longer live in the area so this is a real trip down memory lane for me. Thanks.

  • @fondaproctor9034
    @fondaproctor9034 3 года назад +3

    Once there may have been names. So sad to see disrepair and neglect.

  • @carmelasilvestri7710
    @carmelasilvestri7710 4 года назад +2

    This was so interesting. I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you for sharing and stay safe.

  • @chrisedward7659
    @chrisedward7659 3 года назад +3

    Great!!!
    Another circle back!😲

  • @ericlikestowander7510
    @ericlikestowander7510 4 года назад +3

    I was just there yesterday shooting a video and I did go to the Haymarket Riot Memorial. Did you know that female serial killer Belle Gunness, preacher Billy Sunday and two unknown children found after the Iroquois Theatre fire are all buried there.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +2

      No, I did not know that. Get some footage of that, I’d love to see that video. Also go check out where I was at, maybe you can get better video quality. Really curious about that stuff going on there!!

    • @ericlikestowander7510
      @ericlikestowander7510 4 года назад

      Faces of the Forgotten I just actually shot the Haymarket Memorial, I didn’t go to any of the graves I mentioned. I was in the area to shoot the home of notorious mobster Mad Sam Destafano. And it was the wrong house, I will have to go back again and go to his actual house.

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад

      @@ericlikestowander7510 ~ Matt Sam. That guy was effed up. I can’t wait to see what you do with that. Not sure if you followed Frank Collutto, who recently passed away, but he has a good channel and some stories about Mad Sam -ruclips.net/channel/UCPorX7duiF14sXHa8Vqd3Tg

    • @FacesoftheForgotten
      @FacesoftheForgotten  4 года назад +1

      @@ericlikestowander7510 ~ go to this channel and check a couple of those videos and stories, this Frank guy was really close to the Tony Spilatro ruclips.net/channel/UCPorX7duiF14sXHa8Vqd3Tg

    • @ericlikestowander7510
      @ericlikestowander7510 4 года назад

      Faces of the Forgotten thanks, I have watched Frank Collutto’s RUclips videos, they are very interesting. I will do a video on Mad Sam I’m just researching it now. It will no on my other channel. One day I will run into you exploring a cemetery. Lol

  • @gloriahanes6490
    @gloriahanes6490 4 года назад

    19:20 ... Actually the door knob is made of clay, painted and glazed coated popular in late 1800's through the early 1900's .. a very common inexpensive doorknob usually found on farmhouses.