I was 7 years old in 1982 in the South Bronx, when i was 8 i had to start walking myself to school because it wasnt safe for my mom to walk back home alone.. It was wild had to walk through gangs and drug dealer owned blocks, but luckily nobody messed with me that whole time as a kid walking to and from school.. I thank GOD and my Guardian Angel that was with me to protect me.
@@Davoodoox1 Many cities in north america, even canada, were hit hard by the rapid removal of manufacturing industries with little to nothing to support the void. Detroit was hit particularly hard due to the heavy reliance on the auto industry and a mass migration of those who could afford to leave.
@@Davoodoox1 laziness drugs and insane amount of violence by a certain group of people who have decades upon decades to change themselves for the better but never do but blame everyone else for their short comings as a group
I'm from the UK, and I visited New York in October and November of 1982, staying with my aunt at West 69th Street. One day my aunt showed me around the Bronx. What shocked me was every window on every building had scorching above, where a fire had been. Also, every car outside was upturned and on its roof, and also burned out. It was like a scene from hell and I couldn't imagine living in such a way and in such a place. London never looked more beautiful on my return home.
And now most of these areas in the Bronx have been rebuilt, many of them gentrified, and in London they're rationing vegetables and hygiene products and people can't afford to heat their houses in winter. Everything's and ebb and flow, I guess...
I too visited New York from London in 1982 and somehow me and my wife who was from Denver ended up getting lost and driving through the Bronx. She was terrified but I was fascinated. I had never seen anything like this in my life. We just don't have areas like this in England. It looked like Berlin at the end of the war.....looking at the black neighbourhoods today in these videos of Philly, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis etc it seems to be even worse today. Have those people no pride? America is finished. Cities in Africa don't look that bad.
@@BizzeeB lol stop reading the tabloids there is no rationing, its fine, the big lie is the that everything is doom and gloom, thats just to sell advertisisng space because its addictive to feel negative
It was beautiful though. A burning collage of what was would look like in this country if all Americans at once gave into their primal urge to say....F*ckit!!!!. Cold showers in 2 degree weather. Fascinating times.
The good thing is that Germans know how to rebuild with no help, they just rebuild, The problem with America is the inhabitants that live off of government benefits, why should they rebuild?
That's exactly what I was thinking. I think maybe he was trying to show the similarities then to what's happening in Detroit now. The only think that gives me pause is that people still think most of the Bronx looks like that.😒
I worked for a company based on City Island back in 1980-81 and I remember being told that under no circumstances was I to stop anywhere in the Bronx when using the company's van. I remember driving through the Bronx hoping I would make to safety...in Harlem.
They turned NYC into a police state and solved the problem. Now it's gentrified and that's bad though supposedly. Anyway, remember it was certainly what would now be called a fascist crackdown that fixed the NYC you remember. And once that's no longer in place, it will revert to what it once was.
@@guyincognito320 No, major areas throughout the US were experiencing sharp downticks in crime once economic factors started increasing, regardless of policing policies, and NYC actually had a noticeable downtick in major crime reports when they stopped proactive policing for a short period of time. And gentrification is an issue, yes, when the people who are living there can't afford to live there anymore. You aren't getting rid of the crime in that case, it's just being moved to other areas.
The Bronx had it all. There were even movie studio’s that made TV shows like Car 54. There was a amusement park called Freedom Land similar to Disney Land. Housing Projects ruined it. Blame Robert Moses.
We lost 80% of our buildings in the South Bronx. It was crazy!! My mom came home one night and the landlord literally told her.. the building is finished!! He left!! The building was massive and absolutely beautiful. They don’t build apartments with space like that anymore. The whole block literally died overnight. Even in those hard times we were able to be happy!! We did create a strong sense of community and friendship with our family, friends and neighbors. They always tried to help one another. I still have wonderful memories of those times.
@@FullyAutomaticAddict410 He abandoned the property. Everyone had to go. The whole area went to hell quickly.. it was like a plague. If you took the train/drove around in the 70s there was a time where you will always see something on fire. It was a norm.
Wow that's just crazy, man. I wonder what some of these Corners in the video look like today. I also wonder what the rent is there today? Probably high.
The Bronx in 82 was fun for me and my friends at nite..and we were from long island...my girlfriends grandma lived in the south Bronx...and id walk the streets with her uncle who was from the south Bronx and the side walk would open..everyone on every street addressed him with MR. In front of his name like he was a Super OG...the clubs and hole in the wall bars were fun....streets can smell fear...if you carried yourself right the streets loved ya...especially if you from somewhere else cause you probably be the 1st person they ever met from your area....real street dudes like meeting cool people from a different town or state especially if you really good with people in a street kind of way....the war in the Bronx is on each other. ..not out of towners..unless you in that gang life then you can't go everywhere. ..but a civilian gangsta or clean living civilian you good..
THE '80S WERE THE FUNNEST WE HAD ABANDONED BUILDINGS TO PLAY IN MAKE OUR OWN LITTLE CLUB HOUSES WE USED TO JUMP OFF THE WINDOWS ON TO MATTRESSES PLAY INSIDE ABANDONED CARS IT WAS THE BEST 👍
Anywhere in New York was scary, especially 42nd Street, which had the highest crime when the video was made. The Bronx was just disgenerated from life as you see in the video. So although crime existed, there just wasn't enough people to be a victim.
The Detroit housing shown was huge, those are large, well constructed houses. I'm struck by the extensive use of brick columns in the front of many of these homes, sometimes setting off a single first level porch but often supporting porches on both the first and second levels. But the houses just seem so large and well constructed. What a shame.
I tried to watch this 7 mos ago, but he pisses me off. So uneducated. Those homes have the best bones, they have withstood so much neglect. My mom grew up (97 now) living in some of those old homes. She has told me some great stories about her time livong & loving Detroit.
Also, although not in Detroit, but just 3 blocks into Dearborn, she now lives in a 92 yo house with the brick columns you spoke of. Huge front porch with intricate tile work, and a full balcony above and all the way across the front of the house.
As a contractor it's depressing seeing a good majority of those properties abandoned like that...... a lot of those place were once really nice and built well......good foundations and good materials went into those places
What is even MORE Depressing is that great houses like those sit abandoned while there are MANY 1000's of Homeless Americans living on the streets. WHO are the Rich A-Holes who would leave such dwellings heartlessly vacant while so many Americans suffer ?
What's also depressing is that most of those apartment buildings were replaces by single family suburban homes. Where dozens and even hundreds of people once had a home there might now just be four or five.
The craziest part is the elementary school on the video is the same one I went to as a kid although in completely different times, nowadays that area is surrounded by suburban housing and the apartments that survived still stand. I technically spent most of my youth in that area around type early 2000s- late 2010s while still not living there mainly because of school, but it’s crazy to see the drastic change between then and now especially in an area I used to navigate so frequently
Where all the people who lived here live now ? I'm French and I don't understand, population allways growing but the buildings are emptying... In France it only happens when it is organized, when they deliberately chose to empty a neighborhood to relocate people and demolish the buildings. But there is no ghost town like this.
@@jimmyarbutus2555 there were never really guns there to begin with from my experience at least literally the last time I went to school in that area was 2018 most of the area shown in the video is relatively calm and uneventful not to far down Boston road there’s a lot of deli’s and shops which I used to frequent with my friends. Past the subway on 174th that’s there you’ll find crackheads because why not I guess? But I’ve roamed that area for 14 years of my life while never living there and I’ve never seen guns on a person or lying around
@@aceathor basically during this time period New York City wasn’t particularly safe but most of these apartments crumbled mainly due to landlords who would burn them down for insurance money essentially given the state of the Bronx and the city overall a lot of people who could afford to moved out, those who couldn’t endured the crime and struggles that came with living there at the time
Back around this time, I left Yankee Stadium and took a wrong turn. Ended up in a neighborhood just like the one shown. In the middle of the destruction stood one lone NYPD foot cop. "Let me guess. You're lost!" He told me how to get back to the Deegan Expressway, adding that I didn't have to stop at any stop light, especially if someone started approaching the car. Just do it safely. Good advice.
Bringing back some not so good memories. I went to school there . We used to put a paper note on the windshield when we parked our cars on the street that read "no money, no radio" . One day someone broke my small window in the rear door. The thief obviously didn't find anything valuable, but he had a great sense of humor, he added " just checking" on the note I left under my windshield.
I'm north of Detroit in a suburb and have traveled many places in the U.S. you try to tell people from out of state to not visit Detroit unless they're downtown. They laugh at me and bring up some dumb shit like naming another city that they think is worse. 90 percent of the city looks like hell except downtown has come a long long way. And the city is 180 square miles. North South East and West your swimming with sharks. The cops literally have to team up on almost everything down there they are scared as shit of them. One time my sister was going to work as a teacher down there and some low life dude purposely bumped her car on the freeway and motioned for her to get off at the next exit. He got off at the exit and she kept going. Point is is that its incredibly fucked in that city and ill be dead by the time the inner city suburbs and neighborhoods get better like downtown is.
Damn, early 80's Bronx looked worse than Detroit does now. I didn't know that'd be possible. Also, you can see all those decaying old houses in Detroit used to be really nice. Imagine living there when they were nice, and being given a crystal ball to see how it would look in the future.
People forget that buy the late 70s, NYC was so violent that both the city and government were giving out pamphlets to tourists on "how to survive" their stay and generally warning them not to come.
@@Brandonhayhew they actually are demoing tons of rotted houses the past 10 years or so now. Some of them demo themselves lol believe it or not . They will barricade off a house that they think is ready to collapse.
A multimillionaire philanthropist from Detroit offered a significant amount of money to demo a bunch of abandoned homes years ago. Instead of actually getting it done, the corrupt city council bickered over money and how they'd spend it. Probably which relative's family or connections would get the contracts and whatnot.... So the guy rescinded his offer. You can't fix Detroit when the people running it are the problem.
Taxes were probably partially to blame for this dilemma in the 1st place. And obviously nothing came back to those paying in here, except corrupt self-interest politicians for a vote.
In late 1983 I had just returned from Beirut, Lebanon after a year as advisor to the LAF. My wife booked a bus trip to Museum of Art, and other places in NYC. I had never been to NYC and honestly thought I was back in the city of Beirut, which had been the center of a brutal civil war since about 1975. The devastation was about equal, maybe less in Beirut because they were always trying to fix things between fighting. I could not believe this was American city!!
@@midgetspinner8674 Hogs? Are you talking about the puppets /creatures in the Congress?? Divide and Conquer tactics how can Joe normie never see through it.
I was 8 years old in 1982 and I remember riding in the back seat of my parents car through the Bronx and it did look like a warzone. It was depressing.
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Back in 2011 I was in Windsor, Canada, to visit a friend. One afternoon I decided to spend one day in Detroit, since it is just across the river. I took a bus and before entering US, a Customs Officer asked me this: "Why in the world would you like to go to Detroit for?"
@@macjack5978 Curiosity! It was just 30 minutes ride to get there. One of the guys in the bus laughed at me when I asked him to give me an advice where should I go in the downtown area. He said - you can shoot out of a cannon and no one will show up! It was Saturday, btw.
As a french, i am still absolutely astonished. The last time i went to USA, was in 1986. NY city, Fordham University, Bronx... As student. The bus coming from the JFK airport, crossed the Queens then the Bronx... I can tell you that... No people... Nobody... Was talking... Amazed by the "post war" view we were seeing... Especially me, i guess... Previously i travelled twice in USA, twice in California. The second trip was a road trip (San Diego, to Oregon)... Rich, nice, fabulous, marvelous. And now, i'm travelling by bus from JFK to Fordham U... Post-war views... I think it has been the most shoking view of my youth (1985)... "What the hell, did i choose Fordham?" at this right time: my thinking. I will never forget and... Don't regret. NYC is fabulous. And american peoples are probably the most creative peoples, able to rebund and re-create. I've never came back in USA, since that. But i'm sure these ruins became new houses, healthy quarters. That's the magic of americans: rebirth, rebound, no matter what happened before.... Pionneer country... Keep it up!
What's amazing about Detroit is how beautiful those homes were. There are mansions all over the inner city that folks not familiar with Detroit would even know about.
no doubt, but what condition are they in? these things seem like empty shells entirely exposed to the elements, probably bad foundations, and with gas, water, and sewer lines that are ancient and ready to go boom at any time, if not already collapsed.
They was kangs and 💩 then the wuhite liberal came in and promised to build back better but haven't done anything but further destroy the black comunity😆😭🤣see what the democrat vote got ya
I visited the Bronx about that time (in 1981), it really looked exactly as in this video/movie. The firemen were often accompanied by police officers because they were at risk being shot by people who set fire on buildings for insurance money or for property developers.
@B Keene I remember it were the firemen themselves at that time who claimed being at risk being shot at because they were attempting to save a building but the owners WANTED it to burn (aka insurance). But 1981 is a long time ago and after that the Giuliani? clean-up started.
Most of those were apartments and multi-family homes, people weren't invested in maintaining them. Which is why the British Council Housing system is vastly superior to the inefficiency of the "free market" system.
@@mr16325 British councils (the British government) build single family housing and then lease those homes to citizens and in the cases of low income families rent is based on income. It's an entire house with modern amenities, appliances, and a front yard and garden. After living there for an extended amount of time, residents are given the option to buy, with a portion of rent paid deducted from the sale price. Residents can modify their homes to suit their needs, and in some cases the council (government) will pay for those modifications, such as additional bedrooms or bathrooms or accessibility needs. It's superior to the American Section 8 system in that British citizens have a stake in ownership of where they live. In addition, the council housing system keeps rates of homelessness very low in Britain. The system is not without it's problems but the upside is there isn't vast areas of blight in Britain.
@Roni no dude that footage is from the 80’s. I live in NY, the Bronx doesn’t look like that anymore. But wait I’m confused, were you referring to the footage from the Bronx or Detroit?
When I was a kid growing up In Detroit, it was the most prosperous city in the world.After WW2 we were the only industrialized county in the world not left in ruin. Everyone had a good union job and it was the industrial capital of the world. My father for example had the same job from 1951 to 1996. Very sad to see what happened to such a great city.
Sorry to break it to you champ, but not even every industrialized country in Europe was left in ruin, much less in the world. For example, Sweden and Switzerland stayed out of the war. As for the world... to start with, you have a neighbour to the north that wasn't exactly bombed to pieces, was it?
It was a prosperous city for sure but it was bubble economics and the bubble eventually burst. The people that own the wealth and the means to make wealth took it away and left the workers with nothing but memories. You could almost argue that the city itself was not prosperous, but the people who owned the capital in that city were.
@@whereswaldo5740 The Bronx had several overlapping factors working against it. First, "urban renewal" projects devestated neighborhoods by putting highways through them, thus seperating the neighborhoods and driving down the property values. Second, rent control policies prevented landlords from making a profit or selling their buildings. This led to many of them burning thwir buildings down for the insurance money.
Grew up in the Bronx during that time and remember walking through those abandoned neighborhoods. All you would see during the winter were guys standing around a burning trash barrel trying to stay warm.That was the start of the ' Crack area.Fortunately I didn't live in those neighborhoods but seeing the footage of the areas brings back instant memories.
@@pown1396 Well it's many reasons why that particular time in the Bronx and New York in particular was so depressing. First the crack era was just getting started. Unemployment was high. Murder rate was out of control. Police were corrupt and the city was in financial ruins. What people don't understand is that when poor people live amongst each other it's like fighting for survival. Unfortunately it takes a bigger toll in poorer areas.
*The vast majority of people don’t want to live like this: “Imported” trash, inadequate services, arsons by slum lords etc. contributed greatly to this travesty. * When you destroy housing where are people gonna live, when you destroy your blue collar class where are people gonna find jobs/employment that actually pays a living wage? You now see one of the “results” of policies that were entirely self-serving but not to the people who lived in either of these places and so many other areas both large and small. Concurrent with these guaranteed to destroy policies, the most visible (coming to your neighborhood if not already there) manifestation is HOMELESSNESS.
Some of those homes look like they're 5k square feet or more. They're massive. What a tragedy that they're all delapidated now. I bet that was a beautiful neighborhood at one time.
It does but but in Berlin you had to deal with massive bombing campaigns daily. That's a different kind of hell that Americans don't know about. Churchill bombed the city of Dresden Germany first to commence the attack on German civilians. 3,900 tons of incendiary explosives burned men, woman, and children alive. The hell you see here in NYC & Detroit is due to Drugs, Murderous Crime, and last but not least the culprit of everything: Democratic Political Policies, such as welfare.
That's because they destroyed their own living areas that the government (tax payers)give them ,and they don't have any respect for anything,that the government (tax payers) has to go to different areas and rebuild,just for them to destroy those areas again. This has got to stop. They used to give them nice big houses, as you can see,but now,the "addicted, poverty stricken, and oppressed "people of these areas get "low income" housing because they will just destroy it. Have pride in where you live just like you think you have pride in your race
I don't know why but the Bronx history has always been fascinating to me. I live in the UK and I remember in the 80s people would describe any Tough or Rough area as THE BRONX
It's depressing to see a city, it's architecture, and it's people suffering. I'm glad Detroit is slowly developing at least. These buildings are so nice looking, imagine if they're all renovated! It would be so cool to see.
Gosh the bronx really was eye opening. A street was literally just a pile of garbage with a street sign next to it. I can't imagine how hard it was to grow up there
1982... i can ask my mom she was living in the bronx then..... its a completely different place now... unreal seeing those empty lots like.. bruh Blackrock would be over paying out the nose for those dirt lots today
@@rowanmakesmemes7301 Sammy Gravano spoke of it on a podcast. He claimes Carlo Gambino was tired of the trash piles in his neighborhood (NYC) so he sent word to the union to end the strike.
How could it happen? Massive amounts of urban sprawl. Massive overinvestment in infrastructure the city could not afford. Overreliance on a single industry carrying the entire region.
@@robertmanfredthurrigl9424 Many of the buildings that burned were already vacant. Most were cases of arson, but I am sure a few got started by squatters trying to keep warm. As you can see from some of the footage, entire blocks were just rubble.
I wish I could laugh at that comment but I can’t. I remember the vibrancy, all the lives, all the different people etc. in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, Manhattan from just prior to that period. Walk a block and you’d hear spoken languages, see fashions, smell the cooking from all over the globe. It’s just sad.
i know that you’re referring to the battle of stalingrad but it’s funny that you say that because i’m living in paris, france at the moment and one of the roughest neighborhoods in the city is called “stalingrad”. of course it’s nowhere near as rough as the bronx in the 1980’s but people who have this pristine image of paris would definitely be shocked upon arrival to that neighborhood
It's crazy to see this with your own eyes, I had the privilege to see Detroit's abandoned neighborhoods back in 2011(the part I went through was half-abandoned at the time), I was going through there as a kid in a bus full of kids heading to some charity warehouse to help them separate rotten vegetables and fruits from good ones. It was a learn and travel summer camp, I'm not even American, I went there from Turkey. It was shocking and a little scary to see those neighborhoods because I wasn't expecting anything like that in the USA. When I was there, those streets were full off gangsters, homeless and shady people, I was afraid they were going to stop the bus or shoot at it any second...
Every distressed neighborhood you find in America was once beautiful before those same black people showed up. That’s the story of race in America. White people build, blacks violently destroy.
People are buying them and refurbishing them, I did it myself with a 101 y/o home Detroit's westside not far from this neighborhood he's filming in, bought it for $5000 , now it's worth $35,000 in 1 year exactly this month ..
@@davontetate5913 ..that’s great man, neighborhoods need to rebuild, one house at a time, Detroit seems to have a lot of fixable houses from my quick outside look.. seems to have had a very different trajectory than places like New York since the early 1960’s..stay safe and stay strong..New York March 20, 2021..
Yeah, NYC back in the late 70's/80's had a lot of areas that looked like warzones. Some sections in Harlem, the lower east side of Manhattan, some areas out in Brooklyn all looked like this. Wild Times.
Unfortunately, most of these vacant buildings in Detroit are beyond being saved. Once the windows are broken, or the roof leaks, water gets in and does extensive damage. Not to mention they've probably been vandalized and stripped of every valuable component.
I was taking a class at the Detroit Training Center and the landscape was covered in beautiful old brick buildings and many had businesses in them. Many of the brick buildings might be able to be saved but those old wooden ones built from Michigan timber from the old logging industry are probably done for. I've heard stories of ex-Detroiters going back to their parent's homes, which were abandoned by then, and recovering old family treasures or cash their ancestors had stored away for safe keeping because people from the 1930's didn't trust banks. When people fled Detroit, they left behind pieces of their lives as well as memories that never got recorded in any history book.
@@uwumarii In the case of Detroit, there was a trend for people to leave the city and move to the suburbs. Whether it was originally due to riots or increase in crime, it snowballed. Crime got even worse as peole left. Detroit had a reputation of being one of the most crime ridden cities in America. Most people that were middle class or above moved to different suburbs that surround Detroit leaving behind empty buildings and houses that fell into disrepair. Most of the buildings are beyond repair now, they need to be just taken down and new buildings built. As the comment above you mentioned, there are many working to rebuild back, especially around Wayne State University. But right now you might have a couple of blocks of rebuilt or new buildings and communities and the next few blocks will be abandoned buildings broken homes or empty fields.
@@theworldisavampire3346 Curious, where in the Bronx is there one piece of abandoned property that no one wants? Because last time I checked, there were none and if there was "alot", it would be bought and re-developed very quickly. You DO realize this is 2021 right?
I was 12/13 years old in 1982. I grew up in the Wakefield/Williamsbridge section of The Bronx (Northern section of The Bronx, next to Woodlawn and not far from "money earnin'" Mount Vernon). The few times me and my family had to go to the South Bronx was when a few relatives were still living there or we were passing by to get to Manhattan by car, bus, or elevated subway. I lived near the 2 and 5 trains and you could see miles and miles of abandoned buildings and empty lots. When my family and I moved away in 1988, you slowly started to see new housing being rebuilt in the empty lots. Great video.
The American dream gone horribly wrong . They call it a no go zone. Back then no taxi driver from Manhattan would take you there especially at night. It looks like a bombed out city after WWII.
Its funny but for many who lived there at that time within the dystopian ruins, it was still fun times for the teenagers. HIP HOP! BEE BOP! Boogie Down Bronx!
Dad worked at DANA 1957-89...We were in Warren, Toledo and Fort Wayne...I gotta admit...when I went up there in '99 ...I started crying and needed a drink.
@The Stranger It's because the cities are where the jobs are. Buying a single-family house on an acre of land in upstate New York won't do you well if you work as an engineer or accountant or filmmaker. Jobs are concentrated in NYC, which is why people want to live there.
@@empirestate8791 First, no, an accountant or engineer or filmmaker has no reason to live in a city. Accountants work from home, filmmakers work on the site of the set, and engineers work on jobsites. No reason to LIVE in a city. Second. It's so odd that weirdos would rather live ON TOP of each other instead of getting their own plot of land. Like, imagine the first person who came late to the party. "Oh, there's no land left? Damn... Well...how about... Can I just live on top of you?" Fuckin ridiculous to think about. And the just kept going up. So, now you have 100 families in the same square footage that a single family should have. And then they're surprised that it's crowded and that there's traffic, LOL. Truly a pathetic way to live.
those are huge houses in detroit. Does anyone have pictures of that neighborhood when the houses were still in good shape? that would be very interesting to see
I visited Detroit a couple of years ago. Was great experience,. Hit up the Eastern Market, Had a legit Coney Dog at Lafayette, went to Greektown, had some awesome Fish n Chips at Scotty Simpsons. Caught a Tigers game. Then went to the Original Buddy's Rendezvous & had phenomenal pizza. Also went to Belle Isle park. In spite of this video Detroit ya got a lot of cool shit to do. Oh yeah and l got to sample some legendary Dutch girl donuts before sadly the spot shuttered it's doors for good. But like l was saying Detroit is a great town. God bless you all.
I was 20 then , and in 85 , was working the rehab projects Installing trash disposal chutes and boiler exhaust stacks and as you were working on yet another building . They were destroying the newly completed one next door . Fires in the halls and trash rooms , graffiti , broken front doors , urine soaked elevators . Yes , in a newly renovated building Then there was the day a guy went to a worksite management tailer , pulled a gun and demanded a job . Oh and the poor dogs that a plumbing outfit thought would protect their tools sheds and boxes , one was dead in the dumpster , the other so severely beaten, barely alive , that I wish I could erase from my memory . Talk about not being able to have nice things !
It was mostly the South Bronx that was in this state which was partially maintained by developers in efforts for getting the cities pricing to drop...thats not to say that some of the neighborhoods were legitimately abdanoned or rundown...I grew up in the Bronx and was going to school during those years and much of the Bronx was quite the reverse of what you see here...
@@kryeton5713 My mother was raised in Pelham Park (?) In the 1940s. Do you know what kind of area it was? I was never told anything about what it was like.
People often wonder why you can buy some of these for as low as $1,000 (sometimes less), but consider: The cost of renovation for the majority of these buildings exceeds their renovated value multiple.times over. Services such as power and water can be spotty, where they exist at all. It is often impossible to get trades specialists, such as plumbers or electricians, to come out to do work at all. Similarly, these areas are often blacklisted for deliveries. You might not pay much to aquire one, but you WILL pay annual taxes on the property, often equalling several times the actual value of the property. While these areas can often times be semi abandoned, crime is very much alive and well. The horizon for return on investment for these properties is measured in decades, not years. There is almost never easy access to groceries, schools, healthcare, or any other modern family necessity. You will occasionally see articles about the rebounding Detroit hood. These are blips on the radar of Detroit's continuing decay. The most likely end for almost everything seen in this and other videos of Detroit is the slow swallowing of the wilderness.
Exactly right, and perhaps they should give them away. To anyone who has enough money to renovate not one but perhaps a whole block at a time, utilizing the existing buildings either for homeless shelters, businesses or residential. Now the key is this who would move in, or would they just go to shit again. That would be the question.
Additional is that NY has a source of income with wall street the UN and tourism. I do not see a source of income like that for the city of Detroit. Add to that that the city isn't known for the nice climate either i do not see a reason why Detroit will ever become more then a regional city. Add to that that the predictions for the future are not one of rapid population growth.
Funnily enough there are some restored videos of victorian london around. In a way its the complete opposite of the bronx here, its super built up and busy with people, just everything is coated in soot and ash and everyone is dying of lung cancer
GPU haha I was just waiting for you to mention the negative effects of no sanitation committees lol. Funny how industry were booming with little to no regulations.
Still dangerous ya but not like the 90s over 2,200 murders now last year 2020 around 450 and if you look at arm robberys and cars getting rob and all the other crime's its a crazy difference
As a Canadian, who watches the absurd competition for housing around here, it’s shameful to see all that wasted wealth rotting in the streets of Detroit. Say what you want about causes and whatnot, but it’s really something to be embarrassed about.
Why are so many abandoned houses in detroit? I opened google maps with street view in a random place and I saw a lot of abandoned houses just like in this video. Why?
Finally, a place, where I can afford a house.
Sold for one dollar to you . Next !
bet they are still charging current tax rates though
So true
@James J hell yeah. Multiple policy discount
Only $5000 a year in taxes for the $1 home...... ;)
I was 7 years old in 1982 in the South Bronx, when i was 8 i had to start walking myself to school because it wasnt safe for my mom to walk back home alone.. It was wild had to walk through gangs and drug dealer owned blocks, but luckily nobody messed with me that whole time as a kid walking to and from school.. I thank GOD and my Guardian Angel that was with me to protect me.
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What caused Detroit to become this bad?
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@@Davoodoox1 Many cities in north america, even canada, were hit hard by the rapid removal of manufacturing industries with little to nothing to support the void. Detroit was hit particularly hard due to the heavy reliance on the auto industry and a mass migration of those who could afford to leave.
@@Davoodoox1 laziness drugs and insane amount of violence by a certain group of people who have decades upon decades to change themselves for the better but never do but blame everyone else for their short comings as a group
Have to admit that's some damn good video quality for 1982. Loved it.
I'm from the UK, and I visited New York in October and November of 1982, staying with my aunt at West 69th Street. One day my aunt showed me around the Bronx. What shocked me was every window on every building had scorching above, where a fire had been. Also, every car outside was upturned and on its roof, and also burned out. It was like a scene from hell and I couldn't imagine living in such a way and in such a place.
London never looked more beautiful on my return home.
And how's it looking now??
And now most of these areas in the Bronx have been rebuilt, many of them gentrified, and in London they're rationing vegetables and hygiene products and people can't afford to heat their houses in winter. Everything's and ebb and flow, I guess...
I too visited New York from London in 1982 and somehow me and my wife who was from Denver ended up getting lost and driving through the Bronx. She was terrified but I was fascinated. I had never seen anything like this in my life. We just don't have areas like this in England. It looked like Berlin at the end of the war.....looking at the black neighbourhoods today in these videos of Philly, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis etc it seems to be even worse today. Have those people no pride? America is finished. Cities in Africa don't look that bad.
@@BizzeeB lol stop reading the tabloids there is no rationing, its fine, the big lie is the that everything is doom and gloom, thats just to sell advertisisng space because its addictive to feel negative
@@BizzeeB gentrified just means they moved the poor elsewhere,
Bronx looks like Germany after the war
Looked* this has all been rebuilt and the video is 40 years old so even the stuff that was rebuilt is starting to look old haha
@@oscaruglyface Why it was abandoned?
@@piast_kolodziej thank you US capitalists that financed the Nazis to fight the comunists!
It was beautiful though. A burning collage of what was would look like in this country if all Americans at once gave into their primal urge to say....F*ckit!!!!. Cold showers in 2 degree weather. Fascinating times.
The good thing is that Germans know how to rebuild with no help, they just rebuild, The problem with America is the inhabitants that live off of government benefits, why should they rebuild?
How is no one talking about how you travelled back to 1982 to film this comparison? Insane
Do you got this film of 1982? This area ?
The film of Detroit is recently, the Bronx video must be from 1982
@@cimerti obrigado !
That's exactly what I was thinking. I think maybe he was trying to show the similarities then to what's happening in Detroit now. The only think that gives me pause is that people still think most of the Bronx looks like that.😒
Idk
I worked for a company based on City Island back in 1980-81 and I remember being told that under no circumstances was I to stop anywhere in the Bronx when using the company's van. I remember driving through the Bronx hoping I would make to safety...in Harlem.
They turned NYC into a police state and solved the problem. Now it's gentrified and that's bad though supposedly. Anyway, remember it was certainly what would now be called a fascist crackdown that fixed the NYC you remember. And once that's no longer in place, it will revert to what it once was.
@@guyincognito320 No, major areas throughout the US were experiencing sharp downticks in crime once economic factors started increasing, regardless of policing policies, and NYC actually had a noticeable downtick in major crime reports when they stopped proactive policing for a short period of time.
And gentrification is an issue, yes, when the people who are living there can't afford to live there anymore. You aren't getting rid of the crime in that case, it's just being moved to other areas.
City Island is the Bronx.... Einstein.
@@ARanereno it’s not the bronx at all it’s an island on its own.
@@coleorange970 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Island,_Bronx
I can imagine how glorious those homes and streets looked in their Golden day.
It's sad to see those once vibrant neighborhoods like that.
Motown days lol
The Bronx had it all. There were even movie studio’s that made TV shows like Car 54. There was a amusement park called Freedom Land similar to Disney Land. Housing Projects ruined it. Blame Robert Moses.
Describe glory days. The bronx cleaned itself up alot since the 80s. Detroit is kind of getting better since back then.
YES; MY GOODNESS... 😌.. BEAUTIFUL , BLACK PPL LIVING WITH INTEGRITY, CLASS, & LOVE.....
We lost 80% of our buildings in the South Bronx. It was crazy!! My mom came home one night and the landlord literally told her.. the building is finished!! He left!! The building was massive and absolutely beautiful. They don’t build apartments with space like that anymore. The whole block literally died overnight. Even in those hard times we were able to be happy!! We did create a strong sense of community and friendship with our family, friends and neighbors. They always tried to help one another. I still have wonderful memories of those times.
I was wondering why back then in Harlem and the Bronx you had sooo many abandoned or burned out high rise apartment buildings
What do you mean the Landlord said "The building is finished" ??
@@FullyAutomaticAddict410 He abandoned the property. Everyone had to go. The whole area went to hell quickly.. it was like a plague. If you took the train/drove around in the 70s there was a time where you will always see something on fire. It was a norm.
Wow that's just crazy, man. I wonder what some of these Corners in the video look like today. I also wonder what the rent is there today? Probably high.
@@billmcmahon5454 it’s been rebuilt. Many buildings were renovated and many houses have been built. Tons of buildings going up in West Farms.
That was surprisingly smooth and clear zooming for that era
CharlieBo must be driving a certified hood delorean traveling back in time and shit
Old Bronx at night must have been too scary to walk alone.
The Bronx in 82 was fun for me and my friends at nite..and we were from long island...my girlfriends grandma lived in the south Bronx...and id walk the streets with her uncle who was from the south Bronx and the side walk would open..everyone on every street addressed him with MR. In front of his name like he was a Super OG...the clubs and hole in the wall bars were fun....streets can smell fear...if you carried yourself right the streets loved ya...especially if you from somewhere else cause you probably be the 1st person they ever met from your area....real street dudes like meeting cool people from a different town or state especially if you really good with people in a street kind of way....the war in the Bronx is on each other. ..not out of towners..unless you in that gang life then you can't go everywhere. ..but a civilian gangsta or clean living civilian you good..
Yes I lived there too at the time .It was fun even made a club house in an abandon building . Even made the door bell work
THE '80S WERE THE FUNNEST WE HAD ABANDONED BUILDINGS TO PLAY IN MAKE OUR OWN LITTLE CLUB HOUSES WE USED TO JUMP OFF THE WINDOWS ON TO MATTRESSES PLAY INSIDE ABANDONED CARS IT WAS THE BEST 👍
IF I WEREN'T THERE IN THE 80'S YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW HOW MUCH FUN IT WAS I SWEAR
Anywhere in New York was scary, especially 42nd Street, which had the highest crime when the video was made. The Bronx was just disgenerated from life as you see in the video. So although crime existed, there just wasn't enough people to be a victim.
The Detroit housing shown was huge, those are large, well constructed houses. I'm struck by the extensive use of brick columns in the front of many of these homes, sometimes setting off a single first level porch but often supporting porches on both the first and second levels. But the houses just seem so large and well constructed. What a shame.
I tried to watch this 7 mos ago, but he pisses me off. So uneducated. Those homes have the best bones, they have withstood so much neglect. My mom grew up (97 now) living in some of those old homes. She has told me some great stories about her time livong & loving Detroit.
Also, although not in Detroit, but just 3 blocks into Dearborn, she now lives in a 92 yo house with the brick columns you spoke of. Huge front porch with intricate tile work, and a full balcony above and all the way across the front of the house.
@@annehorrigan570 nowadays, you might need to keep a Quran in your hand if you're in Dearborn...
@@oliverkalamata2753 It got terrorists infested, IKR 🥱
If you dropped a bomb on downtown Detroit, you'd do about $5 in damage
As a contractor it's depressing seeing a good majority of those properties abandoned like that...... a lot of those place were once really nice and built well......good foundations and good materials went into those places
What is even MORE Depressing is that great houses like those sit abandoned while there are MANY 1000's of Homeless Americans living on the streets. WHO are the Rich A-Holes who would leave such dwellings heartlessly vacant while so many Americans suffer ?
@@ArtCurator2020 you really don't understand what happened here yet you feel compelled to make an ignorant, simple-minded comment...
What's also depressing is that most of those apartment buildings were replaces by single family suburban homes. Where dozens and even hundreds of people once had a home there might now just be four or five.
The craziest part is the elementary school on the video is the same one I went to as a kid although in completely different times, nowadays that area is surrounded by suburban housing and the apartments that survived still stand. I technically spent most of my youth in that area around type early 2000s- late 2010s while still not living there mainly because of school, but it’s crazy to see the drastic change between then and now especially in an area I used to navigate so frequently
Where all the people who lived here live now ?
I'm French and I don't understand, population allways growing but the buildings are emptying...
In France it only happens when it is organized, when they deliberately chose to empty a neighborhood to relocate people and demolish the buildings. But there is no ghost town like this.
It's funny that there are probably less guns inside the building now than when you went there.
@@jimmyarbutus2555 there were never really guns there to begin with from my experience at least literally the last time I went to school in that area was 2018 most of the area shown in the video is relatively calm and uneventful not to far down Boston road there’s a lot of deli’s and shops which I used to frequent with my friends. Past the subway on 174th that’s there you’ll find crackheads because why not I guess? But I’ve roamed that area for 14 years of my life while never living there and I’ve never seen guns on a person or lying around
@@aceathor basically during this time period New York City wasn’t particularly safe but most of these apartments crumbled mainly due to landlords who would burn them down for insurance money essentially given the state of the Bronx and the city overall a lot of people who could afford to moved out, those who couldn’t endured the crime and struggles that came with living there at the time
@@bobsanders5932 rent controls and I'M SURE raising property tax at the same time would've have helped.
Back around this time, I left Yankee Stadium and took a wrong turn. Ended up in a neighborhood just like the one shown. In the middle of the destruction stood one lone NYPD foot cop.
"Let me guess. You're lost!"
He told me how to get back to the Deegan Expressway, adding that I didn't have to stop at any stop light, especially if someone started approaching the car. Just do it safely. Good advice.
Now that's interesting
Charlie's dad was filming in the Bronx in 1982
Filming run down hoods runs in the family.
Lol
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So they move from one hood to another...
Charlie carrying the torch😄
I was 14 years old in 1982, lived in The Bronx and yes, it was that bad. They filmed areas to mimic bombed out building in WW2 movies.
Well that’s one way to use the buildings.
Looks just like Berlin in 45
And now you live in detroit?
how did it get so bad?
@@vintyprod The financial crisis of the eighty's, white flight, corruption, a veritable soup of problems.
So sad to see this. You can just imagine how nice this area was in its prime.
Bringing back some not so good memories. I went to school there . We used to put a paper note on the windshield when we parked our cars on the street that read "no money, no radio" . One day someone broke my small window in the rear door. The thief obviously didn't find anything valuable, but he had a great sense of humor, he added " just checking" on the note I left under my windshield.
Detroits abandoned hoods look like a "Last of us" scenario.
All its missing is a golf course.
All it’s missing is a beach
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A bit Manhunt-ish too
I'm north of Detroit in a suburb and have traveled many places in the U.S. you try to tell people from out of state to not visit Detroit unless they're downtown. They laugh at me and bring up some dumb shit like naming another city that they think is worse. 90 percent of the city looks like hell except downtown has come a long long way. And the city is 180 square miles. North South East and West your swimming with sharks. The cops literally have to team up on almost everything down there they are scared as shit of them. One time my sister was going to work as a teacher down there and some low life dude purposely bumped her car on the freeway and motioned for her to get off at the next exit. He got off at the exit and she kept going. Point is is that its incredibly fucked in that city and ill be dead by the time the inner city suburbs and neighborhoods get better like downtown is.
Damn, early 80's Bronx looked worse than Detroit does now. I didn't know that'd be possible. Also, you can see all those decaying old houses in Detroit used to be really nice. Imagine living there when they were nice, and being given a crystal ball to see how it would look in the future.
People forget that buy the late 70s, NYC was so violent that both the city and government were giving out pamphlets to tourists on "how to survive" their stay and generally warning them not to come.
@@Patrick.Weightman both LA and New York at one point were as dangerous as South African cities. It’s crazy to think about
After, somewhat , dropping crime rate, the marketing team there did really good job with eliminating it's stigma of being criminal bumhole.
You would have thought the third world war happened, for sure.
DC wasn't any better...
Would be cool to see a direct, spilt screen side-by-side comparison of the exact same streets/buildings then and now
The Bronx how I remembered it back then. Was fun for me and friends as kids. Use to stack up mattresses near junk yards for doing back flips
The Detroit city council be like, “those properties owe taxes! We cant auction them off!!”
Facts
Then why not destroy them
@@Brandonhayhew they actually are demoing tons of rotted houses the past 10 years or so now. Some of them demo themselves lol believe it or not . They will barricade off a house that they think is ready to collapse.
A multimillionaire philanthropist from Detroit offered a significant amount of money to demo a bunch of abandoned homes years ago. Instead of actually getting it done, the corrupt city council bickered over money and how they'd spend it. Probably which relative's family or connections would get the contracts and whatnot.... So the guy rescinded his offer.
You can't fix Detroit when the people running it are the problem.
Taxes were probably partially to blame for this dilemma in the 1st place. And obviously nothing came back to those paying in here, except corrupt self-interest politicians for a vote.
In late 1983 I had just returned from Beirut, Lebanon after a year as advisor to the LAF. My wife booked a bus trip to Museum of Art, and other places in NYC. I had never been to NYC and honestly thought I was back in the city of Beirut, which had been the center of a brutal civil war since about 1975. The devastation was about equal, maybe less in Beirut because they were always trying to fix things between fighting. I could not believe this was American city!!
I bet i was kid but see ny tv used be. Wow no wonder made moive escape from newyork
Looks like BLM did a peaceful protest.
@@elissam.corsmeier469 Or the Capitol after the Hogs insurrected it. Oh wait we dont talk about that one
@@midgetspinner8674 so all governements are trustable ? oh yes they were the one who created this kind of misery in the first place.
@@midgetspinner8674 Hogs? Are you talking about the puppets /creatures in the Congress?? Divide and Conquer tactics how can Joe normie never see through it.
Now he time travels to the worst hoods.
hey charlie, long time watcher. whose footage is the new york segment?
I was 8 years old in 1982 and I remember riding in the back seat of my parents car through the Bronx and it did look like a warzone. It was depressing.
Can you share more about your experiences?
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I remember that too. I live in Rockland county and when we drove through the Bronx I couldn’t believe how much ruin there was and is.
No it wasn't. Are you daft?
It wasn’t this bad in the late nineties but the hood was still poppin off. And the hispanic gangs were thriving w their machetes.
Back in 2011 I was in Windsor, Canada, to visit a friend. One afternoon I decided to spend one day in Detroit, since it is just across the river. I took a bus and before entering US, a Customs Officer asked me this: "Why in the world would you like to go to Detroit for?"
Well, why did you? 😁
@@macjack5978 Curiosity! It was just 30 minutes ride to get there. One of the guys in the bus laughed at me when I asked him to give me an advice where should I go in the downtown area. He said - you can shoot out of a cannon and no one will show up! It was Saturday, btw.
@@leonne07 Sounds depressing. Did you hear if they ever replaced the ambulances with the high mileage yet?
from what i've heard it's less bad now than in 2011, though still not ideal
It's still a crap shoot in 2021.
As a french, i am still absolutely astonished.
The last time i went to USA, was in 1986. NY city, Fordham University, Bronx... As student.
The bus coming from the JFK airport, crossed the Queens then the Bronx...
I can tell you that... No people... Nobody... Was talking... Amazed by the "post war" view we were seeing...
Especially me, i guess... Previously i travelled twice in USA, twice in California. The second trip was a road trip (San Diego, to Oregon)... Rich, nice, fabulous, marvelous. And now, i'm travelling by bus from JFK to Fordham U... Post-war views...
I think it has been the most shoking view of my youth (1985)...
"What the hell, did i choose Fordham?" at this right time: my thinking.
I will never forget and... Don't regret.
NYC is fabulous.
And american peoples are probably the most creative peoples, able to rebund and re-create.
I've never came back in USA, since that. But i'm sure these ruins became new houses, healthy quarters.
That's the magic of americans: rebirth, rebound, no matter what happened before....
Pionneer country... Keep it up!
Appreciate that brother. Salute from Harlem.
what season of the year was this?
What's amazing about Detroit is how beautiful those homes were.
There are mansions all over the inner city that folks not familiar with Detroit would even know about.
Exactly, very nice houses too.
no doubt, but what condition are they in? these things seem like empty shells entirely exposed to the elements, probably bad foundations, and with gas, water, and sewer lines that are ancient and ready to go boom at any time, if not already collapsed.
When it used to be MotorCity yes the cream-of-the-crop. This is happened all across our great nation. As we don't manufacture anything...
They was kangs and 💩 then the wuhite liberal came in and promised to build back better but haven't done anything but further destroy the black comunity😆😭🤣see what the democrat vote got ya
Thank the politicians for selling the working man down the river.
I visited the Bronx about that time (in 1981), it really looked exactly as in this video/movie.
The firemen were often accompanied by police officers because they were at risk being shot by people who set fire on buildings for insurance money or for property developers.
Bet you wouldn't dare has at a guess and post it??
@B Keene I remember it were the firemen themselves at that time who claimed being at risk being shot at because they were attempting to save a building but the owners WANTED it to burn (aka insurance). But 1981 is a long time ago and after that the Giuliani? clean-up started.
We know it really looked like this we're watching a dang video of it
@B Keene ahh the ol jewish lightning
A war.
Thanks for SHOWING us the truth❤
How did you film the Bronx in 1982?
those massive houses in detriot look soo good would have been a dream living there when they were built
Most of those were apartments and multi-family homes, people weren't invested in maintaining them. Which is why the British Council Housing system is vastly superior to the inefficiency of the "free market" system.
@@timothyrockwell2638 how does that system work
@@timothyrockwell2638 🧢
@@timothyrockwell2638 OK genius.
@@mr16325 British councils (the British government) build single family housing and then lease those homes to citizens and in the cases of low income families rent is based on income. It's an entire house with modern amenities, appliances, and a front yard and garden. After living there for an extended amount of time, residents are given the option to buy, with a portion of rent paid deducted from the sale price. Residents can modify their homes to suit their needs, and in some cases the council (government) will pay for those modifications, such as additional bedrooms or bathrooms or accessibility needs. It's superior to the American Section 8 system in that British citizens have a stake in ownership of where they live. In addition, the council housing system keeps rates of homelessness very low in Britain. The system is not without it's problems but the upside is there isn't vast areas of blight in Britain.
He been going around hood to hood for 39 years, damn!
Crazy how time flies by.
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Damn train CJ!!!
naw that was his pops. hes the Junior lll
Some of these buildings are like huge mansions.. why would anyone just abandon them?
CBo you been making these for a longggg time brother XD
Damn Charlie really time traveled back to the 80’s to get this footage for us, salute to this man
@Roni that's a joke right
at 0:33 you can clearly see a early 2000s GMC Yukon SUV
@@yoshiko130 nah I meant the parts in the Bronx, I know the Detroit parts are modern
@Roni no dude that footage is from the 80’s. I live in NY, the Bronx doesn’t look like that anymore. But wait I’m confused, were you referring to the footage from the Bronx or Detroit?
@@yoshiko130 Everyone knows the Detroit footage is modern lol, nobody said it wasn't.
1980's wasn't no joke in the Boogie Down
Gigiddy
facts
Very true.
Tame compared to it is now. The burnt out buildings are gone but it’s like one big housing project with section 8 housing everywhere.
Could someone explain me what happened there? Why was it abandoned? And is it still like that? I'm from Brazil
The lack of traffic is a plus. I visited relatives in Dearborn back in 1960. It was white picket fences and huge trees.
When I was a kid growing up In Detroit, it was the most prosperous city in the world.After WW2 we were the only industrialized county in the world not left in ruin. Everyone had a good union job and it was the industrial capital of the world. My father for example had the same job from 1951 to 1996. Very sad to see what happened to such a great city.
Sorry to break it to you champ, but not even every industrialized country in Europe was left in ruin, much less in the world. For example, Sweden and Switzerland stayed out of the war. As for the world... to start with, you have a neighbour to the north that wasn't exactly bombed to pieces, was it?
The deliberate downfall of the u.s.
It was a prosperous city for sure but it was bubble economics and the bubble eventually burst. The people that own the wealth and the means to make wealth took it away and left the workers with nothing but memories. You could almost argue that the city itself was not prosperous, but the people who owned the capital in that city were.
@@henrikw377 While it might not have been the only one not left in ruin, it certainly was the biggest one not left in ruin.
I notice you said "Union town" now michigan is a "right to work" state, now I literally have taken more pay cuts than raises over the last 28 years.
Wonderful location for a low-cost post-apocalyptic movie.
No it wouldn't. Not with Tyrone Biggums constantly stumbling into the shot
And Downtown Detroit is perfect for decorating cyberpunk films.
This is where people live, or grew up and were evicted. Not a backdrop for a movie.
The actors like to be 'pretend' scared, not for real scared.
I think they did that for one of the transformer movies
I am from Nairobi Kenya and I am shocked to see this. Very beautiful place, beautiful architecture but it ruins.
You've been at this a long time Charlie
These houses were somebody's life work joy and pride...
@Dante Spardason what are you talking about ?
@Dante Spardason hate on hate ? Wow your going places 👍
@Dante Spardason you need a hug ? Air hugs for dante everyone . I can feel the love . ohh blessedly there be hugs and grant the love for thou dante .
That saddens me a lot too, anyone with a heart must feel simpathy for those people that those lives changed drastically from one day to another!
@Dante Spardason Get help. Neither god nor satan exist
Nothing will ever be like the Bronx in the 80s, shit looks like the aftermath of nuclear fallout....
Exactly! Detroit doesn’t compare to that lol
So what exactly happened there?
I understand buildings being abandon. But what destroyed them?
@@whereswaldo5740 The Bronx had several overlapping factors working against it. First, "urban renewal" projects devestated neighborhoods by putting highways through them, thus seperating the neighborhoods and driving down the property values.
Second, rent control policies prevented landlords from making a profit or selling their buildings. This led to many of them burning thwir buildings down for the insurance money.
@@ArnoldDarkshner99 Thanks
Where exactly in the Bronx is this footage from?
Those houses in Detroit look insanely nice. Such a shame the city is in such a dire state.
Same
Grew up in the Bronx during that time and remember walking through those abandoned neighborhoods. All you would see during the winter were guys standing around a burning trash barrel trying to stay warm.That was the start of the ' Crack area.Fortunately I didn't live in those neighborhoods but seeing the footage of the areas brings back instant memories.
im sorry im not american, what happened? why was it so in ruins?
@@pown1396 Well it's many reasons why that particular time in the Bronx and New York in particular was so depressing. First the crack era was just getting started. Unemployment was high. Murder rate was out of control. Police were corrupt and the city was in financial ruins. What people don't understand is that when poor people live amongst each other it's like fighting for survival. Unfortunately it takes a bigger toll in poorer areas.
And lets not forget the huge rats. Dodging them was difficult to do. Was afraid of getting bitten .
@Big H alsp the landlords of those building would set them on fire to claim insurance money.
What do the Bronx neighborhoods look like today ?
It’s like people made it their mission to spread their trash out as much as possible.
Or outsiders came and dumped their trash.
In a lot of cases it's household belongings thrown out by the sheriff during evictions. People just leave it because they have nowhere to take it.
*The vast majority of people don’t want to live like this: “Imported” trash, inadequate services, arsons by slum lords etc. contributed greatly to this travesty. * When you destroy housing where are people gonna live, when you destroy your blue collar class where are people gonna find jobs/employment that actually pays a living wage? You now see one of the “results” of policies that were entirely self-serving but not to the people who lived in either of these places and so many other areas both large and small. Concurrent with these guaranteed to destroy policies, the most visible (coming to your neighborhood if not already there) manifestation is HOMELESSNESS.
@@tundrawomansays5067 some do throw trash delibretly as a gentrifiction defense.
@@tundrawomansays5067 well said and all facts! Thanks for droppin knowledge
Some of those homes look like they're 5k square feet or more. They're massive. What a tragedy that they're all delapidated now. I bet that was a beautiful neighborhood at one time.
Can you imagine how it looked back in the day, houses are huge in Detroit..
They both look like Berlin 1945.
I don't see a lot of soviet troops in there). It was a lot of the Red army troops in Berlin 1945)))
Look like Chernobyl or abandoned cities of Russia
@@tonylee2032 jesus fucking christ it's a metaphor.
Fucking creepy man
It does but but in Berlin you had to deal with massive bombing campaigns daily.
That's a different kind of hell that Americans don't know about. Churchill bombed the city of Dresden Germany first to commence the attack on German civilians. 3,900 tons of incendiary explosives burned
men, woman, and children alive.
The hell you see here in NYC & Detroit is due to Drugs, Murderous Crime,
and last but not least the culprit of everything: Democratic Political Policies, such as welfare.
50 thousand people used to live here, now It's a ghost town.
its way better now. go see for yourself
That's because they destroyed their own living areas that the government (tax payers)give them ,and they don't have any respect for anything,that the government (tax payers) has to go to different areas and rebuild,just for them to destroy those areas again. This has got to stop. They used to give them nice big houses, as you can see,but now,the "addicted, poverty stricken, and oppressed "people of these areas get "low income" housing because they will just destroy it. Have pride in where you live just like you think you have pride in your race
@@davidkilts1038
100% Correct!
Maybe it should be "If you don't work you don't eat."
I miss that game lol
@@dailyorangepill3338 Cracker Barrel
Was that green car at 6:14 running? Or was it just rolling lol
I don't know why but the Bronx history has always been fascinating to me. I live in the UK and I remember in the 80s people would describe any Tough or Rough area as THE BRONX
It's depressing to see a city, it's architecture, and it's people suffering. I'm glad Detroit is slowly developing at least. These buildings are so nice looking, imagine if they're all renovated! It would be so cool to see.
There is a common element to the ghetto-fication of both Detroit and the Bronx - can you identify it?
@@Christoph-sd3zi liberal feminists will not let us tell the truth, should have let them vote, they destroyed democracy in less than 50 years.
No way in hell those would get renovated.
99.99% of those are getting demoed
@@Christoph-sd3zi BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Christoph-sd3zi Drugs and awful public work i guess
Gosh the bronx really was eye opening. A street was literally just a pile of garbage with a street sign next to it. I can't imagine how hard it was to grow up there
Brooklyn NYC east New York neighborhood was worst looking than the bronx but they will not show you that
The Mafia actually was involved in breaking up the strike of the sanatation workers at the time because it got that bad.
@@MJ0U812 source? Cause that sounds interesting
1982... i can ask my mom she was living in the bronx then..... its a completely different place now... unreal seeing those empty lots like.. bruh Blackrock would be over paying out the nose for those dirt lots today
@@rowanmakesmemes7301 Sammy Gravano spoke of it on a podcast. He claimes Carlo Gambino was tired of the trash piles in his neighborhood (NYC) so he sent word to the union to end the strike.
It's really something to see so many big houses abandoned. I wonder how all this could happen? Many car plants closed??
How could it happen? Massive amounts of urban sprawl. Massive overinvestment in infrastructure the city could not afford. Overreliance on a single industry carrying the entire region.
So this is the house from fight club
As an almost life long Bronx resident, yes that is how it looked back then. All of these areas have now been redeveloped.
In happy for you and your neighbourhood that it is!
Wau you lived to tell the tale ! Can you tell me please why there were so many fires or arson
@@robertmanfredthurrigl9424 Many of the buildings that burned were already vacant. Most were cases of arson, but I am sure a few got started by squatters trying to keep warm. As you can see from some of the footage, entire blocks were just rubble.
Wow it looked like a war zone….I take it there were no jobs, that must have been really tough.
@@chrisjstewart72 There were jobs. Both of my parents worked for the City
Bronx 1982 looks like Stalingrad 😂
@@tatopo40 ?
I wish I could laugh at that comment but I can’t. I remember the vibrancy, all the lives, all the different people etc. in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, Manhattan from just prior to that period. Walk a block and you’d hear spoken languages, see fashions, smell the cooking from all over the globe. It’s just sad.
@@tatopo40 when do u think?
@@tatopo40 The Battle of Stalingrad. world war ll, an intense seven month battle for a single city, not following?
i know that you’re referring to the battle of stalingrad but it’s funny that you say that because i’m living in paris, france at the moment and one of the roughest neighborhoods in the city is called “stalingrad”. of course it’s nowhere near as rough as the bronx in the 1980’s but people who have this pristine image of paris would definitely be shocked upon arrival to that neighborhood
I laughed when, before this video even started,
A VRBO house rental ad popped up.
It's crazy to see this with your own eyes, I had the privilege to see Detroit's abandoned neighborhoods back in 2011(the part I went through was half-abandoned at the time), I was going through there as a kid in a bus full of kids heading to some charity warehouse to help them separate rotten vegetables and fruits from good ones. It was a learn and travel summer camp, I'm not even American, I went there from Turkey. It was shocking and a little scary to see those neighborhoods because I wasn't expecting anything like that in the USA. When I was there, those streets were full off gangsters, homeless and shady people, I was afraid they were going to stop the bus or shoot at it any second...
Every distressed neighborhood you find in America was once beautiful before those same black people showed up.
That’s the story of race in America. White people build, blacks violently destroy.
Those houses are big! Would be nice if not abandoned
They were built to last back then, not like today !
homes of the old world
Mansions. I bet they have cool basements, too. Put a pool table and drum set down there.
People are buying them and refurbishing them, I did it myself with a 101 y/o home Detroit's westside not far from this neighborhood he's filming in, bought it for $5000 , now it's worth $35,000 in 1 year exactly this month ..
@@davontetate5913 ..that’s great man, neighborhoods need to rebuild, one house at a time, Detroit seems to have a lot of fixable houses from my quick outside look.. seems to have had a very different trajectory than places like New York since the early 1960’s..stay safe and stay strong..New York March 20, 2021..
Yeah, NYC back in the late 70's/80's had a lot of areas that looked like warzones. Some sections in Harlem, the lower east side of Manhattan, some areas out in Brooklyn all looked like this. Wild Times.
That’s crazy
Foreal n that was even before crack was introduced
I'm glad them days are over
Boomers say “old times are better”, yeah.. no, they weren’t better, the world is now a much better place.
Why doest it look like war zone, all destroyed like this ?
What's sad is I've been around long enough to see both NY like that back then, and Detroit now. Chicago, too.
Holy.. Man I saw my old house!
Unfortunately, most of these vacant buildings in Detroit are beyond being saved. Once the windows are broken, or the roof leaks, water gets in and does extensive damage. Not to mention they've probably been vandalized and stripped of every valuable component.
Even so, you’d own the soil...
I was taking a class at the Detroit Training Center and the landscape was covered in beautiful old brick buildings and many had businesses in them. Many of the brick buildings might be able to be saved but those old wooden ones built from Michigan timber from the old logging industry are probably done for. I've heard stories of ex-Detroiters going back to their parent's homes, which were abandoned by then, and recovering old family treasures or cash their ancestors had stored away for safe keeping because people from the 1930's didn't trust banks. When people fled Detroit, they left behind pieces of their lives as well as memories that never got recorded in any history book.
Renovator here - you wouldn’t believe the damage a leaking roof can do to a structure in a very short time!
@@tomrogers9467 that's why never do arson that's 20 years break up pipe instead
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Detroit used to be a beautiful city with well built beautiful homes. It's so sad to see it now.
It is and has been in a rebound. There are plenty of beautiful areas in Detroit.
Why did this happen tho? Why were these houses get abandoned they seem to look nice back in the day?
I'm just curious. Not american here so idk
@@uwumarii In the case of Detroit, there was a trend for people to leave the city and move to the suburbs. Whether it was originally due to riots or increase in crime, it snowballed. Crime got even worse as peole left. Detroit had a reputation of being one of the most crime ridden cities in America. Most people that were middle class or above moved to different suburbs that surround Detroit leaving behind empty buildings and houses that fell into disrepair.
Most of the buildings are beyond repair now, they need to be just taken down and new buildings built.
As the comment above you mentioned, there are many working to rebuild back, especially around Wayne State University. But right now you might have a couple of blocks of rebuilt or new buildings and communities and the next few blocks will be abandoned buildings broken homes or empty fields.
These houses are SO well built, they're still mostly solid after sitting vacant for years. The bones are truly impressive.
One beautiful thing that has come out of Detroit was Motor City agate, wish it was still as plentiful as it was decades ago....
I always wondered which parts of the Bronx looked like this so I could look up the streets and look up what it looks like now
My Gramdma who passed years ago in her 90s remembered working in a department store in downtown Detroit. She said downtown was so clean.
Who did it to Detroit?
@@alostpilgrimsjourney5953 Those who claim to be ''very special'', but are not, but are of the temple of the anti-christ.
Damn, imagine buying a piece of abandoned land from the Bronx in the early 80’s and owning it til to this day 💰
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A lot of the bronx still looks like this though
The Bronx is still trash though
@@theworldisavampire3346 Curious, where in the Bronx is there one piece of abandoned property that no one wants? Because last time I checked, there were none and if there was "alot", it would be bought and re-developed very quickly. You DO realize this is 2021 right?
I was 12/13 years old in 1982. I grew up in the Wakefield/Williamsbridge section of The Bronx (Northern section of The Bronx, next to Woodlawn and not far from "money earnin'" Mount Vernon). The few times me and my family had to go to the South Bronx was when a few relatives were still living there or we were passing by to get to Manhattan by car, bus, or elevated subway. I lived near the 2 and 5 trains and you could see miles and miles of abandoned buildings and empty lots. When my family and I moved away in 1988, you slowly started to see new housing being rebuilt in the empty lots.
Great video.
Williamsbridge fam🙂
The American dream gone horribly wrong . They call it a no go zone. Back then no taxi driver from Manhattan would take you there especially at night. It looks like a bombed out city after WWII.
Southern Blvd. Hunts Point. Proud of my parents for not falling in that hole.
Its funny but for many who lived there at that time within the dystopian ruins, it was still fun times for the teenagers. HIP HOP! BEE BOP! Boogie Down Bronx!
Dad worked at DANA 1957-89...We were in Warren, Toledo and Fort Wayne...I gotta admit...when I went up there in '99 ...I started crying and needed a drink.
So how is the bronx today? has it been fixed up and the space maximized?
Damn charlie, how tf did you travel back to 1982?? You be everywhere 🤣🤣🤣
Legit 😂 & there’s no sequence to it, we’re all just here for the ride, literally
@@kalskaleidoscope literally 🤣🤣🤣
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Ironic thing is that some of those Bronx apartments are now renting for thousands of dollars a month.
They are fools.
@The Stranger It's because the cities are where the jobs are. Buying a single-family house on an acre of land in upstate New York won't do you well if you work as an engineer or accountant or filmmaker. Jobs are concentrated in NYC, which is why people want to live there.
The abandoned apartment buildings you see in this video no longer exist. That neighborhood is now mostly low-density single-family homes.
@@empirestate8791 First, no, an accountant or engineer or filmmaker has no reason to live in a city. Accountants work from home, filmmakers work on the site of the set, and engineers work on jobsites. No reason to LIVE in a city.
Second. It's so odd that weirdos would rather live ON TOP of each other instead of getting their own plot of land. Like, imagine the first person who came late to the party. "Oh, there's no land left? Damn... Well...how about... Can I just live on top of you?" Fuckin ridiculous to think about. And the just kept going up. So, now you have 100 families in the same square footage that a single family should have. And then they're surprised that it's crowded and that there's traffic, LOL. Truly a pathetic way to live.
The miracles of gentrification
those are huge houses in detroit. Does anyone have pictures of that neighborhood when the houses were still in good shape? that would be very interesting to see
I visited Detroit a couple of years ago. Was great experience,. Hit up the Eastern Market, Had a legit Coney Dog at Lafayette, went to Greektown, had some awesome Fish n Chips at Scotty Simpsons. Caught a Tigers game. Then went to the Original Buddy's Rendezvous & had phenomenal pizza. Also went to Belle Isle park. In spite of this video Detroit ya got a lot of cool shit to do. Oh yeah and l got to sample some legendary Dutch girl donuts before sadly the spot shuttered it's doors for good. But like l was saying Detroit is a great town. God bless you all.
I was 20 then , and in 85 , was working the rehab projects
Installing trash disposal chutes and boiler exhaust stacks
and as you were working on yet another building . They were destroying the newly completed one next door .
Fires in the halls and trash rooms , graffiti , broken front doors , urine soaked elevators . Yes , in a newly renovated building
Then there was the day a guy went to a worksite management tailer , pulled a gun and demanded a job . Oh and the poor dogs that a plumbing outfit thought would protect their tools sheds and boxes , one was dead in the dumpster , the other so severely beaten, barely alive , that I wish I could erase from my memory . Talk about not being able to have nice things !
this is early 2000s lol, cars
Thank you for your service Matthew.
was it caused by some type of police reform?
Some people are animals
Geezus
It would be amazing to see side by side shots of the same streets and locations in the Bronx in 1982 vs today.
My thought too
Or even Detroit back then and Detroit 2021
the intersection with the black car at 4:30 looks to be Charlotte St at Seabury Place
Completely different, mostly rebuilt and more is built constantly. You wouldn't recognize it
@@Sharks4Cup408 Charlotte St features. The school is adjacent.
40°50'05.72" N 73°53'31.35" W
5:23 what is the address of this school?
Where in Detroit is this?
I grew up in the Bronx during this era and believe it or not some of the very best times in my life, I almost miss it
I’ve been visiting NYC since ‘52 and have lived here, mostly Manhattan, since ‘84. In Da Bronx since 2018. My nabe Pelham Gardens today is gorgeous.
its because nyc in general was in bad shape.
It was mostly the South Bronx that was in this state which was partially maintained by developers in efforts for getting the cities pricing to drop...thats not to say that some of the neighborhoods were legitimately abdanoned or rundown...I grew up in the Bronx and was going to school during those years and much of the Bronx was quite the reverse of what you see here...
The grass was greener ...
@@kryeton5713 My mother was raised in Pelham Park (?) In the 1940s. Do you know what kind of area it was? I was never told anything about what it was like.
People often wonder why you can buy some of these for as low as $1,000 (sometimes less), but consider:
The cost of renovation for the majority of these buildings exceeds their renovated value multiple.times over.
Services such as power and water can be spotty, where they exist at all.
It is often impossible to get trades specialists, such as plumbers or electricians, to come out to do work at all. Similarly, these areas are often blacklisted for deliveries.
You might not pay much to aquire one, but you WILL pay annual taxes on the property, often equalling several times the actual value of the property.
While these areas can often times be semi abandoned, crime is very much alive and well.
The horizon for return on investment for these properties is measured in decades, not years.
There is almost never easy access to groceries, schools, healthcare, or any other modern family necessity.
You will occasionally see articles about the rebounding Detroit hood. These are blips on the radar of Detroit's continuing decay. The most likely end for almost everything seen in this and other videos of Detroit is the slow swallowing of the wilderness.
@John Jones Good Point 👍👍
They should just give them away
@Defective. Stop Lying!!!
Exactly right, and perhaps they should give them away. To anyone who has enough money to renovate not one but perhaps a whole block at a time, utilizing the existing buildings either for homeless shelters, businesses or residential. Now the key is this who would move in, or would they just go to shit again. That would be the question.
Additional is that NY has a source of income with wall street the UN and tourism. I do not see a source of income like that for the city of Detroit. Add to that that the city isn't known for the nice climate either i do not see a reason why Detroit will ever become more then a regional city. Add to that that the predictions for the future are not one of rapid population growth.
Incredible footage of the Bronx. Thanks for sharing.
Those Detroit houses looked like they were nice back in the 50-60s when the car factory’s where at they’re peak. Gary Indiana looks the same way.
My guy is gonna travel to Pompeii and the slums of Victorian London next 😂
If only that would actually be possible.
Lmao
dude gonna be vibing in Nile with Cleopatra
Funnily enough there are some restored videos of victorian london around. In a way its the complete opposite of the bronx here, its super built up and busy with people, just everything is coated in soot and ash and everyone is dying of lung cancer
GPU haha I was just waiting for you to mention the negative effects of no sanitation committees lol. Funny how industry were booming with little to no regulations.
Bronx 1982 looks like it get dangerous real quick after dark
2k plus murders in 1 year bruh in nyc shit got hectic after dark
NYC in the 70s and 80s was really dangerous, and quite a dump. Then Giuliani turned it around in the 90s
2021 Bronx get dangerous as hell after dark nothing has changed since I was a kid lmbo
Still dangerous ya but not like the 90s over 2,200 murders now last year 2020 around 450 and if you look at arm robberys and cars getting rob and all the other crime's its a crazy difference
@@lennydagnino1357 true! No doubt!
As a Canadian, who watches the absurd competition for housing around here, it’s shameful to see all that wasted wealth rotting in the streets of Detroit. Say what you want about causes and whatnot, but it’s really something to be embarrassed about.
Why are so many abandoned houses in detroit? I opened google maps with street view in a random place and I saw a lot of abandoned houses just like in this video. Why?
Look how great those old houses must of been in Detroit back in the day. They look like they were upper middle class.
It sad that America is one of the few countries that do not take care of what we build ,
Chris Wormel,
Not upper middle class, WORKING middle class.
@@fckthemedia1649 did they come with mash potatoes and a side of green beans
@@user-qh4hw2mp6w so sad …
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Where in the bronx were the last shots of this video taken?
One of your best videos. I remember going through Bronx as a kid in late 70s with all the strip cars it was pretty bad
Holy Cow. Bronx looked just like Fallujah after the battle in '04.