Nice video. Just a little info on codecs: mp3 is a single format (MPEG1 - Layer 3 Audio), mp4 however is a container format. it can actually contain streams of both free and of proprietary formats.
The one key thing to factor in is haiku's initial release is focused on maintaining BeOS compatibility + look and feel. Release 2 will (more than likely) step away and focus on more modern styling and features
I have the 32bit installed on a hp2150p 12inch screen laptop. Everything works, no issues. I did check several other machines, and all had issues with some hardware or other. I guess that the initial boot on the live to prove your hardware works on ALL fronts is the most 👌important thing in respect of using this as a daily driver. The final test is to see if it will print via my Epson, either USB or hopefully wireless? After all, without being able to print, NO system can be given the accolade of 'daily driver'. I think haiku has great potential. It certainly matches any linux distribution for slickness and boot time, with exception of Bodhilinux perhaps 🤔..? Best wishes, stay safe...
@@encapsulatio hello there. Simple; I have a latitude e6410, and with haiku boots superfast. But with bodhilinux boots in under 10 seconds. Ssd and 4gb ram 🐏. Never booted with any distribution faster than either of these two. See my channel. I mention it on one of the videos. Best wishes, stay safe.
Slight chronological thing, I think BeOS was on x86 before the turn of the millennium, around 1998, targeting Pentium II hardware, with multiprocessor support (dual-CPU Pentium II machines).
Haiku has too many issues for a GNU/Linux user: 1. The readline doesn't work. So even if a text based application can compile (e.g. guile), the emacs mode is not working. 2. I still don't know pkgman can list install packages. 3. Package management is very different from Unix, so it is not too friendly for Unix user. 4. Uncompressing a large tar.gz file can be extremely slow on SSD (on a 10-year-old laptop). I think the file system itself is slow. 5. Not able to compile many packages is a major issue. At the least I think DrRacket and OpenJDK should be supported. 6. I haven't tried compiling SDL yet. Hopefully SDL based applications works. 7. I can't seem to find any information on how to use ffmpeg to record a screencast with audio. There is a BeOS application for screencasting which is nice but I am not sure how to record video and audio at the same time.
Can't speak for most of these, but I know pkgman can list, openjdk is already ported, and I've never had any speed issues with the filesystem. In fact, it's always been consistently faster than Linux for me. I dunno what your issues are with package management, since for an end user, there seems to be little difference (minus dependency hell).
@@pawanyr360 A very different experience for me regarding the file system. Unzipping in Linux is very fast for erlang.tar.gz but very slow in Haiku 64 bit. I just tried time tar xzf racket-8.0-src-builtpkgs.tgz. It took real 48.020s, user 11.335s, sys 18.263s. I won't call this fast. uname -a gives Haiku shredder 1 hrev55234 Jul 15 2021. It is not the latest, it is still relatively new. My issue with pkgman list is that it list the repos. I want to know what have I installed. I know I can find the packages I installed through HaikuDepot but I prefer command line, that's all. I searched how to list installed packages by command line in Google but couldn't find it. I pkgman install openjdk. I can't find javac, the last time. I tried installing openjdk11_default just now. It work. Thanks.
With no experience of BeOS, Haiku looks really clean. Must have a go at this. Thanks, DJ.
Have fun with it Tony
Nice video.
Just a little info on codecs:
mp3 is a single format (MPEG1 - Layer 3 Audio), mp4 however is a container format. it can actually contain streams of both free and of proprietary formats.
What a sweet little video. This was a great little introduction to the world of Japanese poetry.
Thank you very much!
The one key thing to factor in is haiku's initial release is focused on maintaining BeOS compatibility + look and feel. Release 2 will (more than likely) step away and focus on more modern styling and features
I think they will. To do otherwise would be suicide
I hope they keep the old look though - the flat look has been done to death so much.
I remember building a dual core Pentium 2 workstation to run BeOS. If Apple purchased Be and used it, I'd probably be running a Mac now.
I used to use BeOS myself. I loved it. It was so efficient compared to everything else.
I guess it's time to partition my drive. Quad boot system on the way.
I have the 32bit installed on a hp2150p 12inch screen laptop. Everything works, no issues. I did check several other machines, and all had issues with some hardware or other.
I guess that the initial boot on the live to prove your hardware works on ALL fronts is the most 👌important thing in respect of using this as a daily driver.
The final test is to see if it will print via my Epson, either USB or hopefully wireless?
After all, without being able to print, NO system can be given the accolade of 'daily driver'.
I think haiku has great potential. It certainly matches any linux distribution for slickness and boot time, with exception of Bodhilinux perhaps 🤔..?
Best wishes, stay safe...
Thanks Jim for your thoughts yeah having it support your hardware always a big plus :)
@@CyberGizmo going to try it in virt-manager to see whats its all about, but wonder how is application support
Why Bodhilinux? Please explain what you mean.
@@encapsulatio hello there. Simple; I have a latitude e6410, and with haiku boots superfast. But with bodhilinux boots in under 10 seconds. Ssd and 4gb ram 🐏.
Never booted with any distribution faster than either of these two. See my channel. I mention it on one of the videos.
Best wishes, stay safe.
@@metafile001 Do you know in what video you mention the booting times of both and explain more your experience?
As usual, great video with lots of useful information.
LOVE your videos man. Keep up the awesome videos.
Mubarak thank so much for your kind words, appreciate it and I will try :)
Slight chronological thing, I think BeOS was on x86 before the turn of the millennium, around 1998, targeting Pentium II hardware, with multiprocessor support (dual-CPU Pentium II machines).
I rechecked and yep you are right March 1998 thanks for the correction rootbeer666
We finally got Beta 4, on 12/23/2022. Still no official full version release.
I saw that will have to try it out
I guess i install it one one of my old hardware lying around
Thank you for the Review
Welcome tmendoza6
Can you do virtualization on Haiku?
Nice video as always, but really whats the point of a new OS (other then geeking out) .
Its always good to see what is out there, Linux or not, if nothing else it reminds us of what is possible, when people tell us it can't be done.
windows 11 is a dumpster fire, linux is a user nightmare, android is spyware
Thanks DJ!
I could not find Seamonkey for HaikuOS.
Interesting!
Hi Felix, yeah it is
nice video !!
Thank you! Cheers!
Does it can run mac os application
No.
Haiku has too many issues for a GNU/Linux user:
1. The readline doesn't work. So even if a text based application can compile (e.g. guile), the emacs mode is not working.
2. I still don't know pkgman can list install packages.
3. Package management is very different from Unix, so it is not too friendly for Unix user.
4. Uncompressing a large tar.gz file can be extremely slow on SSD (on a 10-year-old laptop). I think the file system itself is slow.
5. Not able to compile many packages is a major issue. At the least I think DrRacket and OpenJDK should be supported.
6. I haven't tried compiling SDL yet. Hopefully SDL based applications works.
7. I can't seem to find any information on how to use ffmpeg to record a screencast with audio. There is a BeOS application for screencasting which is nice but I am not sure how to record video and audio at the same time.
Thanks for the feedback HowHui, will look into the audio recording, that would be important for me if i were to use it for this channel
Can't speak for most of these, but I know pkgman can list, openjdk is already ported, and I've never had any speed issues with the filesystem. In fact, it's always been consistently faster than Linux for me. I dunno what your issues are with package management, since for an end user, there seems to be little difference (minus dependency hell).
@@pawanyr360 A very different experience for me regarding the file system. Unzipping in Linux is very fast for erlang.tar.gz but very slow in Haiku 64 bit. I just tried time tar xzf racket-8.0-src-builtpkgs.tgz. It took real 48.020s, user 11.335s, sys 18.263s. I won't call this fast. uname -a gives Haiku shredder 1 hrev55234 Jul 15 2021. It is not the latest, it is still relatively new.
My issue with pkgman list is that it list the repos. I want to know what have I installed. I know I can find the packages I installed through HaikuDepot but I prefer command line, that's all. I searched how to list installed packages by command line in Google but couldn't find it.
I pkgman install openjdk. I can't find javac, the last time. I tried installing openjdk11_default just now. It work. Thanks.
@@howhuiliew164 'pkgman search -a --installed-only' lists all installed packages in the terminal.
@@pawanyr360 A big thanks.