The Rainwater Tank
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2017
- I have installed of a 2500 gallon rainwater storage tank on the shop. I built a pad by digging out a hole and placing compacted gravel in that space. I put in a layer of 3/4 inch pressure treated plywood on top of the gravel. This is what the tank will sit on. I connected the tank to the shop downspout with 4 inch ABS pipe. There is a first water reservoir and an overflow that connects to the old pipe that goes out into the yard. It has been raining and it seems to work.
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My dad would've put me in the tank to put the fittings in
Yeppers.
When I was a teenager, we had a dairy cow fall into an old hand dug well. My dad and grand dad lowered me down with the tractor to get a harness around the cow, so we could lift her out. She was not happy to see me down there. I did get her hooked up and they pulled the cow out first. LOL
That was our back up plan.
Acts 13:41
that was only to show you how milk is important for your health ! LOL !
Exactly
Just as an FYI since I've entered tanks like these for my job, oxygen concentration inside the tank can drop dangerously low. I've had coworkers die before from not using an oxygen sensor before entry.
The ladder thing was genius I would have never thought about that
my cave man brain would of just lifted it by myself if possibly throwing out my back or worse i keep forgetting basic grade 3 math.
There is 4 or 5 recap to understand the ladder idea for me..🐴🐴
Why don't you use a magnet?
Take examples of leverage from history and how a man moved enormous stone plinths single handedly. See here: ruclips.net/video/E5pZ7uR6v8c/видео.html
Oregon ...it probably filled in two days...
"the more expensive your piece of paper is the harder it is to draw the first line...", great wisdom!
A video with humility. How freshening. Thanks Frank.
Those are strong words of wisdom
The chief designer of Jaguar Motorcars, drew a sketch of what would become the Jaguar XJS, to the CEO of Ford- on a napkin (and got the project approved).
When you’re using a hole saw on pvc, reverse the rotation counter clockwise. The cut will be smoother, less chatters, and a cleaner cut overall.
Okay, it's official: Frank could narrate grass growing and it would be interesting. I never would have thought watching a rain water catch system being installed would be entertaining but as usual I was so excited when it was finally complete and that rain started to fall. Great stuff Frank!
I have 2 smaller rain barrels. One on each side of the house. I attached a hose so I could water the plants. in the Winter the barrels are turned upside down otherwise they get a leak in the bottom. I hope Frank does not have to turn the barrel upside down in the Fall.
I would watch the grass growing video of Franks to.. He can explain every little part to make it sound so easy... Great job to his wife to for helping him with the off load onto the air mattresses... We were all surprized that it didnt pop...
agree! been looking for a video like this for a long time. Great Job!
Of course, I enjoyed the whole video but the part that was black and white with the how-to of the water path was really done well.
i agree. well done.
I am a professional plumber in Greece and we use a lot of tanks constructing pools and more. I don't care about any of the mistakes that you have done regarding the system you created. The whole video is amazing. They way you guys thought, the way you used your tools, the whole presentation is better than a lot of professionals that I have ever worked with. JUST THE CREATIVE THINKING you showed is impressive. It would be an honor if I ever got to work on a project with a co-worker as smart as you.
this is a really nice compliment.
@@teenyverse7707 They deserve it. We should all try being more applauding and less judgemental with everything and everyone that is doing a good job. And this couple did a great job.
Your detailed narration is much appreciated. How you never fail to mention the smallest details.
This stuff is just hypnotic to men.
Ken Okeefe dude same.. xd
And for women thank you very much.
Especially at 7:50 ;)
so damn right
It reminds me of a Seinfeld´s joke about a guy working in his driveway, when out of nowhere all the men of the street were there, watching the dude working on his car or something similar.
Why do I get so much enjoyment out of watching someone set up a water tank?
Cinematography
Why do we get excitement from watching Jurassic Park.
His voice.
A friend of mine is a builder. He always says that all jobs should be left to the experts. My argument is that most jobs can be accomplished by the home handyman provided some thought, planning and care are used in the mix. In many cases a much better job is accomplished because professionals are always constrained by time and dollars. You have proven this is true with your tank installation. You may not have had it in a day but the end result was a far superior job than you could expect from any trade, plus at a far cheaper cost and with the added satisfaction that you did it yourself. Well done.
And also your video story telling skills are superb.
2:18 Love the way you got it out of your truck - great backyard ingenuity.
Sometimes I rewatch Frank's videos just because I love his narrations. That's why I'm watching again in 2019
billiondollardan just made it here. 5/12/20
rewatched May 2021
Just a little trick to the problem at 9:00 with the rubber hose: Warm the hose up first to attach it! warm rubber gets soft and then just slides on. You won't need much strength! when it cooles down, it retracts again and sits fast... Yes, I know, it's not always appreciated that I tell people tricks without beeing asked for... But hey, there are also people like me, who love being told/read about tricks like this one! So read it or leave it! have a nice Weekend!
Ignore the trolls Sammy. Your advice was kind spirited and much appreciated. ✌️
Doing things hands on like you are doing with no experience brings us that sense of Pride,,you done very well....
Agreed ! The part with the graphics of the movement of the water was awesome and all people should be able to make such video edits to augment their explanations. also the narration to fit the video is such a very helpful method !!! The ending graphics are also totally unique and wonderful !!! thanks so much !!!
1. Moving the tank from the truck...was spectacular. I literally said, out loud, "Yep, that works!"
2. I know how you felt drilling holes into your tank. I had the very same feeling when I installed a depth finder/fish finder on my brand new boat. Drilling a 1-inch hole into a boat that is 2 weeks new is NERVE RACKING!!!
3. Way to use your head.
4. Always a pleasure to watch your videos.
Thanks for the great story.
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Here's what I love about you and guys like Matthias Wandel: You're obviously quite smart and have lots of experience with woodworking/fabrication, but even when you try something new, you take the viewer on the interesting journey of figuring out how to do things. You can make a mistake or failed approach into fascinating material and keep the viewer riveted. If I was just watching my neighbor do this over a few days, it would be like watching paint dry. You turn it into an Oscar-worthy documentary :) Thanks for all the good content! **edit** "GREAT content"
Such honesty about your figuring it all out and the help from family . It’s a superb mechanism with all the pipes. I especially appreciated that you could avoid getting debris into the tank!! Also I’m glad you had the height to rest the pipe on your head during the last manoeuvre ... pure art!
I had a great time watching and hearing you think out loud as to how to do this. As a reluctant DIYer, I have done many things by the seat of my pants. Nice work!
the most amazing part is how he found so many sunny days in Oregon
Took him 5 years.
Southwestern Oregon's weather from late May to October is about the best one can find in the entire USA. Oregon's northwest coast gets a lot of rain, but the eastern part of the state has a lot of high plains desert.
You're a genius. Five years before you figured you wouldn't be able to do it just by yourself and your wife, so you planned having your kids mating so that they could provide you with some newborn manpower. You're my hero.
hahaha funny one
Kids are not meant to be slaves. Breeding is murder & should be outlawed.
The Ultimate Reductionist r/whoosh
@@theultimatereductionist7592
How many pieces of clothing from Asia are you wearing to work today?
@@theultimatereductionist7592 lol there not slaves, I mean if your definition of a slave is gets good food, go to school and have friends and live life like a normal person.,Then yeah i guess
Its been a couple of years since I was first inspired by your example (and others). Since then, we now have 3 x 2500g tanks feed by 2000sq ft roof and full pump house -> Pressure Tank -> 20micron -> 5micron -> Class A UV -> house!. This year, we have been running on rain water since Dec... its so cool. THANK YOU for posting this and providing inspiration to others :)
Really great video. Even though you showed the shop you have and then mentioned that you went to "architecture school," you still made sure that a common viewer understands every detail, from beginning to end.
Thank you for sharing.
Run the drill backwards, it will help when cutting a hole into plastics.
I will try that.
Agreed and if its a two speed cordless drill use the fast speed, the slow speed has to much torque.
Beat me to saying it.
For plastics and wood, forward direction with higher speeds and lower feeds.
Frank, back the hole saw out to clear the chips!!! (every couple of seconds). You don't do this then complain that they take a long time... because they plug up quickly. You need to clear the chips!!
And you beat me toooo.
Very interesting video.. Would love a "1 year later" update on this tank!
I put together a 90 gallon rainwater collection tank a couple years ago and was shocked at how quickly it fills up. One good, 20 minute rain shower and it's overflowing. Has been on my to-do list to obtain half dozen more 55gal plastic barrels and expand. Just never got around to it.
Yeah our 55 gallon barrel fills to overflow in what it seems to be 10 minutes.
Why not use a 1000 litre IBC tank ? They are a cubic metre in shape so much more compact than 5 round barrels. (N.B. 4 x 55 IMPERIAL gallons = 1000 litres). Here in the UK they also commonly come in 600l sizes. They can also be hidden underground if you want to go down the electric pump route.
Really appreciate you sharing your video. I’ve been living in the mountains of NC on Big Laurel Creek for a couple of years and it’s time for me to upgrade my entire system. Presently I pump from the creek with a 1/2 hp shallow well pump into 275 g tank. I use various valves to switch supply from creek to tank before entering the pressure tank and several different water filters. My system and the design of my system was not backed by experience just a lot of problem solving during installation. Your video has given me a “plan” to get my project from the note pad to the yard. Thanks.
It's awesome you included the kids in the project. At that age it makes them so happy to be helpful. A big plus is they will grow up with a don't give up mentality. Nice video.
I love how life and jobs keep getting in the way of what we want to do. Something that says in the instructions should take 15 minutes or an hour takes a month to a year. 👍
Fascinating. I never knew that water cisterns were so complicated. But now you have explained it all, I feel like an expert.
Another desperately needed RUclips 'expert' can now be set upon the world. XD Just kidding John, I know that's NOT what you meant... I was really having a dig at all the so-called 'experts' who pop up in the comments, claim some BS and back it up with swearing and calling people (& their families) names. You know what I mean, infant school playground kinda stuff! All the best JB :)
Once again, you've reminded me how much I love your videos. It's so satisfying to observe your analysis and implementation of whatever the task. Good job, vey good job. Thanks.
Awesome video, well put together. Thank you for sharing. As for the hole saw, I have done that to myself many times as an electrical apprentice. I was taught to sort of roll it in a circular motion while drilling so that instead of constant pressure on the whole hole saw, each part separately gets a little extra pressure. Just a suggestion for future endeavours
The ladder idea was genius. Will remember it for the rest of my life. Hope I also need it one day.
2:16 "See Perfect" I love that moment when your ideas work !!!!
Really enjoyable seeing how easily you went around moving such a huge tank by using your smarts.
I really appreciate your humility in presenting the progression of your thinking. Thank You
That was way more than I anticipated. Thank you for showing us you working through your setup.
This might be the best “not how to”, how to video I e ever seen. You sir are a very creative man and modest of your talent. RUclips videos are almost always posted by over-the-top individuals trying to be famous and you’ve done the complete opposite. I have no interest in this kind of project myself but I thoroughly enjoyed watching you work. Thanks!!
And the information, and explanation of his tools and uses were prefect. I sent this video to my son to watch. This man is GREAT...
A patient, thoughtful man can figure out most things..Great video.
Awesome story of how you installed your own water tank. Thanks for the humor and commentary alone the way.
Very good Sir!
That whole sequence of rolling the water tank was great - shows a nice side between you and your wife we don't usually see.
Also - was not expecting it to be that big haha - cheers!
That's great idea and video. I wish more people would install these. The city I'm in actually offers great rebates on rain tanks, to reduce the load on the storm sewer and on water supply. If you're consider a rain tank, check if your city offers any rebates.
Frank is one of the smartest people I've ever witnessed. Just a really impressive dude.
Not needing a rain water tank but what a pleasure to join you on your adventure. Totally entertaining and educational. Well done and well thought out! 👍🏼
Frank you are so skilled up and knowledgeable that you can use your level head as a pipe stand.
Frank, you must be an engineer! I really enjoy listning to you and watching your videos!
Your a smart guy, I'm watching this and thinking "Man the ladder, thats a smart move" I guess you've been rolling this process round in your head for a bit before carrying it out. We are installing rain water storage in our new build, throughly enjoyed your video and have taken a huge amount of info on board. Thanks.
I have only seen these kids say merry christmas halfheartedly 2 times and carry a treebranch away together and help roll the tank, and I already love em so much. They're so cute, teamworking together
Damn this is cool. Loved the animation at the end showing how the system worked Frank!
For someone who has never done this before, Frank, I give you kudos.
Watching this project a second time after a while, cuz I like how it was done effectively and aesthetically 👍🏽
It's half past midnight, and I was about to felt asleep when I got to your video and ended up completely awake! I find it fascinating! I don't even have a rain water collector but I was mesmerized by your shooting and narration. Great job!
when using a hole saw with pvc type material(your tank), run the hole saw in reverse after the pilot hole is through. It still cuts through, but doesn't bind.
the city I live in wouldn't allow a big tank in the yard. I will have to wait till I get to the country to do this. You always want to water your plants with rain water, compared to city water.
Hi Frank this video reminds me ,my uncle dug a big hole and buried a septic tank connected it up put dirt over the top ,during the night it rained and in the morning the tank was out the ground he thought someone had tried to steal it, till someone told him your supposed to fill it with water to keep it down , tanks for the video ,
G.
Graeme w I once saw a swimming pool that had been drained. Although 30ft x 15ft and made of concrete, it had floated three feet out of the ground on rising groundwater! Needless to say, the pool was ruined.
@@spencerwilton5831 When a body is immersed in a liquid, that body is forced up by a force equal to the weight of the liquid displaced.
If you are not a teacher, I need to say you have beautiful teaching skills and resources. Thanks man, awesome video!
I really liked the fliating ball check valve setup for the first water fall being drained off. This is a really nice system. The SS Filter Float is icing on the cake.
Interesting video! I'm used to watching "How - To" videos honestly but this one was interesting to see a different perspective.
Ah ha, very interesting, you did a great job, I'm sure it is working well. That inside float for the suction is intriguing, keeps it off the bottom. Instead of tying that white rope to it, you could have run it through the ring, making it double; no need to drop it into the tank; lower it and let one end go to pull the rope back. We are on rainwater tanks here in Australia, 2 by 27,500 liters, say 14,500 US gallons. The rain just goes in at the top, same as your opening, with a screen, suction near the bottom, no fancy float. Hardly any sediment to speak off, both stay very clean inside. Only filter we use is for the small drinking water tap in the kitchen, paper filters, carbon filter and UV light for killing germs.
That's actually pretty cool. You say your house runs completely on a rainwater tank? Is it sort of like a well?
Bought a simple after market tank float from Bunnings. Drilled a hole in top of tank, mounted the guage into it like a plug. The drop down float is suspended under the guage, which you calibrate. Cheap, simple and easy to read volume just looking at guage.
Love the idea and I’m starting mine as well. One thing I can say is patience and logic step back and look at things and you have proven this people go to school for years but you have a lot of logic my friend. Smart man right here
I love the idea using the ladder and how you rotated the tank. Genius! I am planning to do the same. Thanks
this was the 20 chilliest minutes I've had all day
2:07 The most suspense I've ever felt during a youtube video!
BRILLIANT!!!
I'm very impressed with all your mcGyvering. I love seeing people thinking outside the box! Your video/story telling, kept me interested the whole time. Not once did I get bored watching this. Bravo, my man!
I have watched many videos on capturing rainwater, and honestly this vidio is the best at showing the steps. Thanks so much for posting this. I want to do something like this for our garden, and quit paying water company for waters our garden and flowers. Appreciate the thoroughness of the steps.
I don't know why I watched this, I enjoyed every minute of it, and want a tank in my yard, but have absolutely no use for it. lol Thanks for making the video. BTW, your shop looks awesome.
This was the greatest adventure ever! Thank you so much for sharing!
Ladder/tank. You sir, are brilliant. I was fascinated. A very well done video and the story well told. I fully relate the clean paper and making the first pen or pencil mark on it......I get it 100% as I've felt the same many times. It was a joy to watch this video. Thank you!
What I liked much is you being honest sir, lol...that you didn't know all of the works involving plumbing but you've made so nicely, 'love your video sir!
Frank, you are the type of dude I wish I lived next door : ). Always something interesting happening.
I really enjoyed all the problem-solving elements. Practical engineering solutions! Great vid, thanks.
Very good info. I didnt knew there are lot of pipes and connection need to be fitted to a rainwater collecting tank. The initial rain overflow is a smart way to flush all the dirt settled along the gutter after a long drought. Thank you sir, for sharing.
Both the air mattress and ladder thing were great field expedient ideas. My hat's off to you, sir.
Hi frank, great video. In my experience, drilling bigger holes in PVC works best if you set your dril in reverse. This way the drill does not bite into the material.
thanks for tip Piet.Very useful
I have mentioned this video to some of my friends in the Philippines. During rainy season. They will not have problem of water on summer days. Free from nature. Besides the screen filter. Place a clothe on top of it. To help the screen filter.
you did a good job Frank and family. I liked how you got the tank off the truck to its spot with the air mattress and ladder brilliant .
This is like Water Tank McGyver and listening to his thoughts during the process. Love it!
Your giggling is amazing
please make a video of the gross first rain tube next year, I'm very curious
I'm curious about that too
metal roof right? how long is Portland really rain free for each year anyway?
Portland is typically without significant rain from July to September, sometimes into early October. Last year it started getting dry by the end of April, though this year we are still soggy well into May.
And those summer forests are LUSH!
Same up here in Washington, only more so! The state that lives up to its name!
And two years later I learned from you. Thank you, beautiful job!
Those big hole saws are real arm breakers in a 1/2" high torque drill. Great job. Enjoyed your journey on this project. Lots of well thought out solutions.
I have a Milwaukee 1/2" corded drill, but it also has a screw-in handle that's perpendicular to the body. Without the handle that thing will reach out and slap you silly if don't pay attention. With the handle and a tight grip, it works really well. You do need to be careful though. It does have an impressive amount of torque!!
What a great micrometeorites trap you have made Frank! Yes, you now have made a micrometeorite trap and that can lead to an exciting hunt for you and your family if you choose to. I guess if you check the first water pipe regulary and in the foot of the inlet tube by lifting the pipe with the foot up once or twice a year and examine the sediments then chances are high you will find some micrometeorites there. They can also be trapped in the rain gutter on the roof. I bought us a microscope some years ago and now we have an interesting hobby trying to find micrometeorites.
Cool! My son will love this.
@@frankmakes The micro-meteorites are mostly iron so you can pick them out with a strong magnet.
@Frank, can you give a link for the pipes? I have a watertank and I don't have water running....I wanna buy two pipes...one which filters water from dust(first rain water drops are not healthy) and one for getting water from tank....just that system you installed. Please give links....I have no idea but I need pipes.....quick reply, please
Or somebody knows those pipes which Frank used....those two pipes...I checked Amazon and loads of pipes....
@@frankmakes www.sciencefriday.com/articles/up-on-the-roof-a-handful-of-urban-stardust/
Hey Frank, would love an update on this project if there is one. :) Curious to know how it's holding up cleanliness wise in the tank, and what you use the water for.
Me too. Seems like a coat of paint would make more opaque. Tank wall appeared translucent - meaning algae growth.
Great video. The only thing I would add is a sight glass to see the water level. It’s a handy addition that helps with water management.
Great video! Wish I was as cool, calm and patient as you seem to be!!
I like a lot of your viewers would like to see an update on how it’s working!
Also, I would mount some 1/2” unistrut, perpendicular to the pipe, on you shop and add some pipe clamps. That would prevent any movement of either pipe!
I bet you had so much fun on this project. And that amazing feeling when it was done was probably exhilarating. Also, you literally played that Pipes game in real life but making the pieces as you go, I mean... just wow.
Once upon a time, I was up a ladder with a large hole saw on an electric drill. The saw caught just like yours did, difference is, the handle of my drill nearly broke my jaw and knocked off the ladder. Live and learn.
Great description of the subsequent steps as well as the whole story OF COURSE. - honestly I don't know whether it's his voice, conduct or footage' tideness but this is probably the best DIY installation video I ever seen!! :)
Dear Mr. Howarth. I loved your video. It helped me a lot. You performed as a top instructor in this video. I very much appreciate your effort being so clear and thorough. God bless!
Tip: When drilling holes in plastic, depending on the way the teeth are set on the hole bit, run your drill backward.
I drill forward through plastic but on high speed. Works great for me
when using a hole saw on plastic, go forward until the pilot bit goes in then run drill in reverse
Works nicely every time 👍🏼
Sir, you're such an inspiration of "Human Potentials" in that we just have to use patience, discipline, and humility to figure things out. It can be stressful, but in the end, it becomes fun and successful. Im not a hands on person, but I am definitely willing to take on a huge task and learn as I go. Thank you for sharing your video.
That was a work of art. Your voiceover finishes it off to perfection.
My dad would have just lifted me in that tank back when i was a child 😂
That was plan b
I was just going to say that. Let Calvin down the hatch.
I bet that tank needs a cleaning eventually... :-D
Lol we convinced my dad to get in the tank, he said it got real hot real quick in there :D
I was going to say the same thing haha
I was thinking exactly the same 😂
What a great project Frank. As an old retired engineer myself, not originally from Ithaca but close by :-) , I can appreciate how you approached your project. I have to say the use of the ladder to stand the tank up was a stroke of genius LOL. When you installed the drain fitting in the tank I was wondering how you were able to get the fitting tight without being able to hold the inside half or did you just rely on friction?
MrGrunthunter's Adventures the drain fitting came through as one fixed piece. he just turned the retaining nut onto the thread and held onto the threaded section to get a tight turn on the connection.
I noticed that but it could have been difficult to hold it tight enough. I suppose though that it really doesn't need to be completely leak proof. It's not like it's inside of his house or shop. :-) . I couldn't tell but there may have been a soft seal ('O'-Ring) on the inside piece that would have sealed the fitting without needing for it to be overly tight.
Yes there is a big rubber washer on the inside flange that helps keep it from rotating (and makes it water tight). there is also a place for a wrench on the part that comes through the tank, so one could get 2 wrenches going and really tighten it up. so far it is not leaking, the water is about a foot above the drain at this point.
If you look carefully you will notice that the inner threaded part has a hex molded into it's end. You hold that hex after the nut is threaded passed then use a second wrench to cinch it down. You can also run a bead of silicone before tightening to ensure a good seal.
frank howarth eventually you're gonna have to find a way to get rid of the sediment that piles up. You might have to drill another hole at the very bottom and drain the whole tank and sediment before every winter, I would think.
Excellent graphical explanation of the components at 17:37
This was inspiring. You're a great story teller. Beautiful family! Awesome shop.
Slowly but surely explained, thanks a lot!
10:10 you should have kept the safety rope on the inside parts for future retrieval / repair. Ours was in there 9 years before we needed to use it.
I think almost any type of rope (cotton/nylon) will get damaged under the water and that part can be retrieve easily with a hook and stick later on!
Excellent video. Excellent narration. Nice touch including bloops and the, “I’m not sure what I’m doing” attitude.
The first rain, or first flush, system is brilliant! I never saw this before.