E0S1 Lingsha vs E0S1 Aventurine | Ft. Feixiao | MOC 12 v2.5 | Honkai Star Rail.

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024

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  • @HeroKun2
    @HeroKun2  День назад +28

    Just a reminder: In this video Lingsha's Ultimate is bugged, The healing part of her ultimate is not working , But the Break DMG increase by 25% is working, her healing is so good with her FUA that its barely noticeable.
    Also I have HP% orb on her which is wrong stat to use, it should be ATK% instead as her Healing scales of ATK.

    • @mra697
      @mra697 20 часов назад +1

      Do u think lingsha good for feixiao??? I don't have aventurine now.

    • @mra697
      @mra697 20 часов назад

      Explain everything to me please. Will feixiao benefits from break buff from lingsha

    • @mra697
      @mra697 20 часов назад

      What is the recommended 4 stars lc for lingsha

    • @mra697
      @mra697 20 часов назад

      Does the fua from rabbit counts to feixiao stack

    • @Nakuweed-samurai
      @Nakuweed-samurai 19 часов назад +1

      1) yes lingsha is decent for feixiao
      2) it just meh not like break team
      3)her trace transfer break effect into attack/healing bonus so Gallagher lc in shop is very recommended
      4) of course

  • @sufferred7030
    @sufferred7030 День назад +47

    bearly she the difference between these two just because Feixiao and Robin destroy the enemies so fast ☠️

  • @minako-chan1420
    @minako-chan1420 23 часа назад +44

    One thing about this battle comparison is the enemy line up. The enemies move faster and attack often which really favors Aventurine's kit so much. Also FUA team would benefit Aventurine so much because they would add stack on his passive which means Lingsha would really be losing this comparison. Nevertheless, she can still clear this MoC in a zero cycle, that fact shouldn't be underestimated. This only means that she can work outside Firefly's break team and that she's also flexible. One thing to note, even if Lingsha was CC'd, her FUA can never be CC'd at all and her bunnies have team wide cleanse ability and that's a plus.

    • @minako-chan1420
      @minako-chan1420 23 часа назад +27

      @mr.caelussy you don't understand Lingsha's kit 😭
      Lingsha's skill and her summon always apply cleanse. Even if your DPS gets CC'd, as long as Lingsha or the bunny is placed before your teammate (or she has her ULT ready), your CC'd teammate will get cleansed 100℅. Whereas Aventurine's effect resistance boost on his teammates only has 50% and when they ever get CC'd, they would definitely lose a turn.

    • @eldijdjbruh214
      @eldijdjbruh214 23 часа назад +10

      Honestly it doesn’t mean anything, i could just swap out aven and use Gallagher/Houhou/Fu xuan and you know what? The result still the SAME, they all 0 cycle. At the end, Aventurine was made for FUA crit team while Lingsha for break team and hoyoverse ain’t that dumb to make a character that can be good for all achertypes so yea.

    • @flowerpetal_
      @flowerpetal_ 22 часа назад +3

      ​@@minako-chan1420 but if you're cced by imprisonment, reverberation, entanglement, or the likes, you still get delayed even if you cleanse it. Cc aside there are also debuffs like weaken and slow. Yes Aventurine's kit is rng but debuff prevention > cleanse

    • @minako-chan1420
      @minako-chan1420 21 час назад +10

      @@flowerpetal_ like i said it's all about the enemy team line up, if there are enemies who can apply delay debuffs, Aventurine would probably have more advantage to that. But it's still 50/50 come on, even with Aventurine on your team, you can still get delayed if RNG isn't on your side. Let's say if your Aventurine team gets delayed and they were also imprisoned, at the very least in Lingsha team, they can get freed with her cleanse whereas if your RNG with Aventurine turned on your back, you are delayed and even lose your turn because you are still imprisoned when your turn comes 🤧

    • @mra697
      @mra697 20 часов назад +3

      Aventurine deals more numbers of fua compared to lingsha. That's why I am saving for aventurine instead of lingsha

  • @reynoldalezandro6207
    @reynoldalezandro6207 16 часов назад +16

    Why people arguing over sustain? Shield is always better than healing unless your dps has high hp like blade or you play character that need to be hit like yunli clara or character that drain other hp like jinglie or jade.. since no matter how much you heal if you get oneshot because your dps has low max hp it's doom.. but that considering if they could even get one shot, since if you have the ideal team with good support and dps you can prevent that one shot anyway either with defeating enemy or cancel their attack with break.. so if you have enough sustain stop pulling for more.. if you wanna spend your jades use it on support.. this video show that the difference sustain make is so minimal.. so either pull for support or strong dps that compliment your line up.. well if you're willing to spend money then go just pull for whoever i guess but if your pull is limited don't waste it on sustain.. 2 limited sustain is like the perfect amount since we need 2 teams to clear moc etc.. and there are also good 4star alternatives

    • @octavianusjuan3238
      @octavianusjuan3238 14 часов назад +2

      tottally agreed with ur statement

    • @boularasayoub3318
      @boularasayoub3318 13 часов назад

      This is a sad reality, but to make healers rise again is giving more buffs ,basically a weaker version of harmony

    • @reynoldalezandro6207
      @reynoldalezandro6207 12 часов назад +1

      @@boularasayoub3318 i heard in after 3.0 there will be a lot character that playing with their hp like blade which if that was true healer would be more desired..

    • @yubiyubiw
      @yubiyubiw 11 часов назад

      yes, in 3.X, rumors say there will be a dps unit that do not have harmony in their team, just healers. they probably convert healing received into massive dmg or something

    • @lstinside8688
      @lstinside8688 11 часов назад

      @@boularasayoub3318 Or make them increase max HP

  • @gepardlandau04
    @gepardlandau04 День назад +61

    so with aventurine, robin did not have to activate a second ult and has less risk of getting cc’d

    • @MuhammadKharismawan
      @MuhammadKharismawan 20 часов назад +24

      Less risk or getting quickly dispelled, it's all plus and minus.
      The problem with aventurine is his CC resistance is not 100% effective, if your dps is CC's the run is effectively dead as you can't clean it.

    • @gepardlandau04
      @gepardlandau04 15 часов назад +2

      @@MuhammadKharismawan yea but the fact that robin wasn't forced to use her ult in her 2nd rotation bc of his constant FUAs significantly weighs more than that flaw of his

    • @HSRFirefly
      @HSRFirefly 13 часов назад +1

      @@gepardlandau04 use of ult or not it doesnt matter

    • @gepardlandau04
      @gepardlandau04 13 часов назад +8

      @@HSRFirefly well the point here is how valuable lingsha is outside of her niche where a 4 star is her competitor and even then she’s barely an upgrade to that competitor and we all know who’s the T0 preservation sustain in all scenarios

    • @tieAcherry101
      @tieAcherry101 4 часа назад +1

      @@gepardlandau04let’s see that in the next patches. Aventurine has no room to upgrade, his team is pretty much set and his character archetype is already filled. On the other hand, Lingsha is an upgrade for break teams, you like it or not, and has proved to be competitive with Aventurine for FuA while still having the summon archetype to be fully explored. She will only age better, and the same can’t be said for Aventurine.

  • @LoL-gf5ux
    @LoL-gf5ux 21 час назад +36

    Why u use Lingsha ulti even though the summon will act the next turn..... not gonna lie your turn order management kinda messy

    • @minako-chan1420
      @minako-chan1420 16 часов назад +5

      Thissss, I also noticed that. Clearly, they don't understand how her kit works 😭

    • @bromaster9017
      @bromaster9017 16 часов назад +2

      I'm agree. Skill issue

    • @AhaxD-r7g
      @AhaxD-r7g 13 часов назад

      tbh that s also Lingsha's weakness, her forced Fu Yuan trigger throu emergency heal and ult will also reset Fu Yuan.

    • @AeryMP3
      @AeryMP3 10 часов назад +1

      @@AhaxD-r7gthe emergency heal doesn’t use up any of the actions

  • @mckayzabriskie
    @mckayzabriskie 7 часов назад +4

    You didn't play lingsha correctly within the first minute of video lol. Her ult 100% action forwards her bunny and you used it when her bunny was next kinda wasting an entire follow up attack.

  • @Cultured_Individual
    @Cultured_Individual 15 часов назад +3

    Feel like this is a terrible way to showcase her potential and value, cuz I believes her relevance on a team is when she can break the enemies toughness by herself. A non-fire weakness boss wouldnt make much sense to bring her in unless its with Firefly

  • @burnedpotato1895
    @burnedpotato1895 День назад +38

    I really doubt Lingsha can solo sustain as well as Aventurine or Fuxuan vs bosses that do crap ton of damage. I want to see her vs MoC 12 Aventurin in a low invested team where you just don't one shot everything. But seriously what's the point of comparing sustains when the other 3 kill everything before they can attack.

    • @Flare8124
      @Flare8124 23 часа назад +23

      Why would you even bring low invested teams in MOC 12 lmao

    • @Kiki-Yyn
      @Kiki-Yyn 22 часа назад

      Why lingsha can't?
      Her amount of healing just like luocha and huo2, just different, if luocha and huo2 can why ling can't?

    • @weihangong1707
      @weihangong1707 22 часа назад +2

      But the problem for ling sha now is she so sp negative compare to adventuine..

    • @darknessflame8826
      @darknessflame8826 22 часа назад

      ​@@Kiki-Yyn HISSSSS??????

    • @Kiki-Yyn
      @Kiki-Yyn 22 часа назад

      @@darknessflame8826 so sory typo😭😭😭😭

  • @catsittingcomfortably
    @catsittingcomfortably День назад +110

    aventurine definitely takes the win

    • @xenoemblem7
      @xenoemblem7 День назад +25

      Since both prevent the others from certain doom, both wins.

    • @DandDgamer
      @DandDgamer День назад +16

      True but Lingsha is an aoe break unit and this stage isn't fire weak. It's possible she performs better on fire weak stages and she will likely be better in pure fiction.

    • @LucasAlves-eq3ig
      @LucasAlves-eq3ig День назад +28

      Its not that simple, this is the premium team for Aventurine but Lingsha is better in break teams, and the enemies are imaginary weak and not fire weak

    • @eldijdjbruh214
      @eldijdjbruh214 23 часа назад +6

      @@DandDgameronly if that pure fiction has fire weakness lol

    • @vegitoblue6969
      @vegitoblue6969 22 часа назад +1

      @@eldijdjbruh214 firefly' teq : may i come in?

  • @keneunaegbu851
    @keneunaegbu851 19 часов назад +10

    Lingsha is so redundant, literally no point in pulling her over Aventurine unless you want to E1 her because Gallagher exsists

    • @epekesnas8961
      @epekesnas8961 19 часов назад +7

      Not everyone have Gallagher E6
      You would have to spend at least 70 tickets to E6 him, being insanely lucky btw

    • @keneunaegbu851
      @keneunaegbu851 19 часов назад +7

      @@epekesnas8961 I don't remember saying anything about Gallagher E6, nor is Gallagher E6 even needed...

    • @blanchefaux6016
      @blanchefaux6016 18 часов назад +3

      @@epekesnas8961 right i pulled for ruan mei, did like 80 wishes on her banner (which had gallagher) and got exactly zero copies of him 😐

    • @epekesnas8961
      @epekesnas8961 18 часов назад +3

      @@keneunaegbu851 then there's no point saying ligsha is redundant. if Gallagher isnt E6, he can't even compete

    • @epekesnas8961
      @epekesnas8961 18 часов назад

      @@blanchefaux6016 almost same for me, I pulled for ruan mei, got her at almost 80 pity, then tried Firefly, lost her 50/50 with 75+ pity, then I got her at 75+ again. All of that gave me 2 gallaghers

  • @superGianism
    @superGianism 31 минуту назад

    I really like Lingsha's design. I'll probably get her for my FF team then try and e1 my FF in her rerun to make the sp management better. I was not able to get Aven during his og run but would try and get him in the rerun. Primarily using Fu Xuan and Huo Huo for my teams rn but would like to try other styles available.

  • @vegitoblue6969
    @vegitoblue6969 21 час назад +1

    running 144 speed lingsha without ruan mei 😂

  • @Dosko_chinpo
    @Dosko_chinpo 3 часа назад

    Aventurine is just generally better he’s also skill point positive you rarely need to reapply his shield

  • @doggoborgir8935
    @doggoborgir8935 12 часов назад +2

    I understand that why people still like Gallagher more than lingsha, he has of turn heal it's more often based on your attacks and he has so much effect Resistances

  • @Henryfs.
    @Henryfs. 13 часов назад +9

    Aventurine VA, Lore, design, gameplay, strength>>>>>>
    Lingsha is just a trash waifu bait with nothing relevant. Gallagher E6 >>>>>

    • @vnm1r
      @vnm1r 11 часов назад

      Waifu > slave gay

  • @afonsomonteiro2003
    @afonsomonteiro2003 14 часов назад

    For this comp, youre better off investing on Topaz if you already have Aven and Robin

  • @AhaxD-r7g
    @AhaxD-r7g 13 часов назад +2

    There are only 3 choices
    Go for E1S1 Lingsha
    Get Lingsha's LC and slapped it to Gallagher
    Or dont pull her at all
    Lingsha below E1 isnt worth to pull, and if ur FF isnt even at E2 yet, might as well invest on FF eidolon. so only if ur FF is E2 and u have enough resources to pull for E1 then u can pull Lingsha. oh dont forget Tingyun, u better wait till we got full picture of Tingyun's kit before pulling for Lingsha.
    And if u plan to use Lingsha for Feixiao, might as well wait Aventurine rerun

  • @darkstar3559
    @darkstar3559 18 часов назад

    i have full team fua limited with robin e1s1 aven e2s1 topaz e1s1 but i doesn't have feixiao.. 😭😭😭

  • @wisz2606
    @wisz2606 23 часа назад +1

    m7 is great & silly at the same time 😂

  • @Calcharoistherealchad
    @Calcharoistherealchad 13 часов назад

    I want both but i need Aventurine more so i will get her on rerun

  • @torototoro1252
    @torototoro1252 22 часа назад +2

    aight thats it im getting lingsha first lmao i cannot wait for aventurine rerun. when he does rerun, ill just buy jades for him easy

  • @slaire6892
    @slaire6892 20 часов назад

    I wanna see an sb showcase if anything

  • @TheEmanatoroFHamony
    @TheEmanatoroFHamony День назад +5

    Wait how you can have lingsha private sever?

    • @すみこ次木
      @すみこ次木 День назад +9

      Early access maybe?

    • @Prozitive
      @Prozitive День назад +2

      The same they can get with other characters in private server. She is in game already just locked bihind time gate in official.

    • @TheEmanatoroFHamony
      @TheEmanatoroFHamony 21 час назад

      @@Prozitive oh i see 👀

  • @b1osz-836
    @b1osz-836 6 часов назад

    all 5 star sustain is good in moc but i'm surely aven is better in simulated universe.

  • @deedee3355
    @deedee3355 23 часа назад +10

    Yes in that team Aventurine is better than Lingsha, but Lingsha best team is break team.
    As FF and Feixiao haver, having Lingsha is better, cause you can use her in both team.
    But Aventurine will be better in FuA and Acheron (especially s1 Aventurine).
    This game is about choice, just pick which one you prefer, just remember to not picking for Midyuan 😂

    • @Nakuweed-samurai
      @Nakuweed-samurai 19 часов назад

      I just gonna get lingsha so that my Gallagher in other team like he fit in firefly;Acheron and feixiao team as second best option while being very sp positive….. what did Mihoyo thinking creating this man kit ?

    • @DashawnLoves
      @DashawnLoves 19 часов назад

      @@Nakuweed-samuraiThey were aware of Lingsha, and knew if they didn’t make a budget version of her people would riot.
      The future enemies are going to be moving extremely faster, the summon meta is coming, and a lot of buffs for MoC,AS, and PF are surrounded on attacking a lot. Gallagher is a great bridge for the people who can’t/don’t want to pull for Lingsha but aren’t entirely punished for it (yet)

    • @somedude8131
      @somedude8131 13 часов назад +5

      JY catching strays in a video abt Lingsha and Aventurine is crazyyy

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 6 часов назад

      Gonna get Kingyuan e1 s1 one day. He's just too pretty

  • @xenoemblem7
    @xenoemblem7 День назад +9

    Lingsha vs Aventurine ❌️
    Lingsha + Aventurine ✔️

    • @sufferred7030
      @sufferred7030 День назад +4

      that's what i will do in golden and gear 😅

    • @seongjaeoh8742
      @seongjaeoh8742 День назад +2

      Ah yes the completely viable and certainly not pointless double sustain comp

    • @omarbirkdar5536
      @omarbirkdar5536 20 часов назад +4

      ​@seongjaeoh8742 i think they meant getting them both, not putting them both in one team

  • @usubenidango
    @usubenidango 14 часов назад +8

    I’m upset, people are gonna see this and think aven is undoubtedly better, when this team comp really favors him. Please be more mindful of that as a content creator. Make lingsha vs aven in a break team and let’s see who wins!

    • @minako-chan1420
      @minako-chan1420 13 часов назад +1

      @@usubenidango legit and i agree 😭

    • @Daverf1f
      @Daverf1f 12 часов назад +15

      Aven is still undoubtedly better, for break teams you already have Gallagher and Lingsha isn't even that big of an upgrade over him. Meanwhile aventurine is currently unmatched in FuA teams and is also universally good when played with other teams

    • @prawnhub357
      @prawnhub357 10 часов назад

      Keep upset then no one stopping you

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 6 часов назад

      He is undoubtedly better? Lingsha is specifically good in break, and even then she's comparable to a 4 star

    • @usubenidango
      @usubenidango 51 минуту назад

      @@prawnhub357 Ok simp.

  • @aliounethiaw1443
    @aliounethiaw1443 6 часов назад

    Preservation march wins

  • @erisakizuya5433
    @erisakizuya5433 11 часов назад

    i needed this video haha

  • @JohnFiuza-i9q
    @JohnFiuza-i9q 14 часов назад

    Bro what is ur march on tf

  • @devonz1380
    @devonz1380 21 час назад +1

    Good feixiao showcase!

  • @shinidragon7775
    @shinidragon7775 2 часа назад

    The goat FuA sustainer, and also Aventurine

  • @prawnhub357
    @prawnhub357 16 часов назад +7

    The amount of Lingsha simp coping is so hilarious😭 not only she is sidegrade for Gallager she also mediocre in FuA barely does anything worth mentioning

    • @TerraTheWise
      @TerraTheWise 13 часов назад

      You spelled “upgrade” wrong and Aventurine is glued to FuA comp because he’s worse than Lingsha, Gallagher, HuoHuo, and Fu Xuan in any other comp 😂

    • @Nakuweed-samurai
      @Nakuweed-samurai 9 часов назад +3

      @@TerraTheWisemeanwhile me putting him in team that isn’t FUA and still kicking ass: wait he glued to FUA team ?

    • @TerraTheWise
      @TerraTheWise 6 часов назад

      @@Nakuweed-samurai Never said he wouldn’t work but he’s "glued" to FuA because he gets outperformed by other sustains. HuoHuo is much better for energy hungry characters and those that appreciate higher ultimate uptime. Fu Xuan is better or even for hypercarries. Lingsha and Gallagher are much better for break comps. Luocha is Luocha.

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 6 часов назад

      ​@@TerraTheWiseAventurine can be put in literally every single team. Are you dim?

    • @TerraTheWise
      @TerraTheWise 6 часов назад +1

      @@HazZzel- So? You can put every sustain in the game in any team because their primary job is to keep you alive. Doesn’t mean they’re bis for that team though.

  • @paskvil8291
    @paskvil8291 День назад +4

    so... they're both great sustains and make no difference?

    • @Zevyne
      @Zevyne День назад

      I’d aventurine is better because of his effect res buff. Also shields are better at preventing one shots than healing.

  • @a3peak
    @a3peak 16 часов назад

    what is the debate here??? all i see is lingsha being the abundance lightning lord

  • @daichi1069
    @daichi1069 14 часов назад +3

    lingsha e0 is such a mid upgrade of even just an e2 gallagher. definitely not worth the 70+ pulls that will be spent.

  • @Cravior
    @Cravior 16 часов назад +3

    Dang lingsha VA boring ngl

  • @HazZzel-
    @HazZzel- 6 часов назад

    This is a joke, right? 😭

  • @Kicksrockskids
    @Kicksrockskids День назад +4

    0:28 I'm ok I'm fine. Genchana#

  • @noivern4346
    @noivern4346 20 часов назад +1

    This can’t be real 😭 you’re putting a break leaning sustain into a fua team AND COMPARING IT WITH AVENTURINE.

    • @aliasonarcotics
      @aliasonarcotics 19 часов назад +1

      uh yes? we know lingsha is worse than aven for fua, what we want to know is how much worse. lingsha is on the next banner while aven rerun is unknown, so people who can't wait that long to get a limited sustain will find this info valuable
      unfortunately the video has some misplays so it's not as useful as it could have been

    • @1athn-780
      @1athn-780 19 часов назад +1

      @@aliasonarcoticstwo completely different characters with two completely different uses make it make sense 😂

    • @noivern4346
      @noivern4346 18 часов назад

      @@aliasonarcotics if you need a sustain just wait. Gallagher is incredibly strong so if you’re f2p (excluding waifu collectors) you shouldn’t be pulling for her.

    • @aliasonarcotics
      @aliasonarcotics 17 часов назад +1

      @@1athn-780 you realize lingsha has a fua right? you also realize her standard basic basic skill ult rotation has the second most hits per av out of all the sustains right? what are you even talking about? lingsha is both a break sustain and a fua sustain, and the hybrid role is probably why she isn’t amazing at both

    • @aliasonarcotics
      @aliasonarcotics 14 часов назад +1

      @@1athn-780 ‘completely different’ is a lie so i’m not sure what is there to make sense here. can’t make sense of something that isn’t true in the first place

  • @zenzennzen12
    @zenzennzen12 14 часов назад +2

    Aventurine is just so cringe a character.. same as the peeps who uses him and likes him

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 6 часов назад +1

      This is a certified "okay buddy" moment. Keep coping

  • @oberon1236
    @oberon1236 14 часов назад

    Lingsha still better

    • @bonnie445sfm4
      @bonnie445sfm4 6 часов назад

      In fua team aventurine still king by how much dmg he do + the stack he give to feixiao
      Lingsha is mainly made for firefly break team and will shine in it

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 6 часов назад

      Shes barely better than a four star, but whatever helps you sleep at night

    • @bonnie445sfm4
      @bonnie445sfm4 6 часов назад

      @@HazZzel- i was thinking the same but after play with her during her story trial i immediatly noticed the big dmg she do in superbreak
      She will break slower than gallagher but the dmg she do will def be really bigger
      Wait and see when she will be out before judge her because it happen often that TC said "character mid" and in the end become monster

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- 5 часов назад

      @@bonnie445sfm4 Her damage is only limited to break and is one of the only reasons she's good
      I recommend you look into some showcases. Even with her damage, her performance is extremely similar to Gallagher

    • @bonnie445sfm4
      @bonnie445sfm4 5 часов назад

      @@HazZzel- well that's because she is a break unit, and also this is what that make her better than gallagher and even if her utility is not really here, it's still a good upgrade in superbreak, gallagher is nowhere close to her damage he just faster for break ennemy (but mostly in 2 elite or boss situation)

  • @marmota_a
    @marmota_a День назад +3

    So Lingsha not only ended Gallagher but also Aventurine?? mOTHER

    • @Zevyne
      @Zevyne День назад

      Did you watch the full video?

    • @18-HuỳnhGiaHuy
      @18-HuỳnhGiaHuy 23 часа назад +41

      Ended Aventurine ??? Youre blind or something

    • @prawnactor1278
      @prawnactor1278 23 часа назад +5

      ?

    • @sufferred7030
      @sufferred7030 23 часа назад

      aventurine still have better performance in this team, his FuA is alot, but yeah, if you don"t like him, LIngsha is your best replacement

    • @yamino_exe
      @yamino_exe 22 часа назад +2

      Aventurine is still far better in FuA, and at E0 she's a small upgrade over Gallagher to the point 1 gold cost is better to have Lingsha's LC on Gallagher than Lingsha E0S0, 2 gold cost+ is when she's an upgrade over him.
      And she's only BiS for Break teams, Gallagher still has more places in Acheron and QPQ battery to Robin in non FuA teams.

  • @dimasraka4289
    @dimasraka4289 20 часов назад

    E0S0 Aventurine
    Firefly Team : C
    Feixiao Team : S
    Acheron Team : A
    E0S0 Lingsha
    Firefly Team : S
    Feixiao Team : A
    Acheron Team : B+ (still have debuff from Ult)
    Right or Wrong?

    • @sufferred7030
      @sufferred7030 20 часов назад +13

      @@dimasraka4289 i gonna say Aven will be a S for Acheron

    • @Nakuweed-samurai
      @Nakuweed-samurai 19 часов назад +3

      @@sufferred7030yeah with S1 and the trend lc but trend will be useless when Jiaoqiu on the team then only his ult has debuff (if not have S1)i say A+ is the best point in Acheron team

    • @DaviHonkaiStarRail
      @DaviHonkaiStarRail 18 часов назад

      ​@@Nakuweed-samuraiyou have a good eyes

    • @yukinaa_yukina
      @yukinaa_yukina 17 часов назад +2

      ​@@Nakuweed-samurai
      His E1 give team buff and instant shield tho?
      Maybe u mean S1? because his sign can give debuff from his fua

    • @Nakuweed-samurai
      @Nakuweed-samurai 17 часов назад

      @@yukinaa_yukinawait ah shit was thinking of his sig and also what his eidolons do kinda mix both up 😅 sorry it was supposed to be his signature