Can love be a path to happiness? - by Ajahn Nyanamoli, Hillside Hermitage
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Questions on the nature of love and whether it's possible to love unconditionally. Obviously, "love" discussed here doesn't cover the nature of "loving-kindness", and wishing good to people in general.
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Illustrative discussion, May all be in safe, peace & happiness 🙏☘️
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This makes so much sense, but at the same time it is such a scary perspective on life... Not even being able to say "I love you" to your partner or children because you'd be lying if you did and you actually feel indifferent about their presence in your life... it's hard to accept that this is part of the goal we should be striving for. Same for friendship, does friendship between "freed" Buddhists become like the political frienpship between States, which simply stands for cooperation based on mutual interests?
Not quite. There still be the wish for others' well fare, the compassion for their suffering, the rejoicing in their happiness and equanimity is to observe closely but stay mindful not to let your impulse drag you to and fro. That's a whole lot differ from "indifference" which people often relate to when they hear 'you should get rid of love and hate'.
Look you can do it but if you bind your self to someone like that expect to suffer. The whole point of Buddhism is putting end to suffering. If you want that "love" is out the window.
Love is not equanimity 😊
Bas mi je drago sto sam te cuo. Uradi jedan snimak i na srpskom :) Pozdrav druze
Thank you Venerable Sir, I have resrained my body and speech from unwholesome but I cant restrain my mind. My default position is I am trapped in pain and I dont see where my responsibility is in keeping my self trapped in pain. Venerable Sir until 2015 I triyed not to make something activate the pain because I knew it would torture me if it was activated and I would have no way of preventing it and in 2015 it was activated and it literally torutred me how painful the pain was and it was also torutring me with fear and doubt. I ended up developing the view and situation that I am trapped and controled by pain by default. This situation of being trapped in pain is preventing me from choosing to think wholesome thoughts nor can I choose to believe/think that I am not trapped in pain and choose to believe/think that I am free from pain. Maybe I have that power in the ultimate sense but until I understand how I have that power and how I gave it up I cant do it. I dont know what is in my power and where and how I have given up my power the situation of being trapped in pain is totally controlling me and automatic. I have triyed to contemplate with my self what my action is but I dont make progress I cant see it the proper way beacuse I am inside of it and need help to se the bigger picture.
I have given up my responsibility completely I dont undestand what it is that I am doing in my thoughts to my own harm to keep my self in this "I am trapped in pain situation" and I dont see where my responsibility starts and ends in terms of angry actions in the mental it is going on automatically. What is it that I have let control me that ultimately didnt need to control me. I really need to undestand where I gave up my power to be able to take it back. I am forced to be in this situation of being trapped in pain. Until I learn more about what I have taken for granted,assumed and how I have acted I am powerless over this sitaution. While I have restrained the body and speech from unwholesome I clearly cant restrain my mind beacuse I dont understand what I am doing and how to restrain it and for any developing of further practice I must fix it.
Venerable Sir excuse me may I ask if there is possible if your time and situation allows for a discussion about this topic "I am trapped in pain". If I could get clarity in regard to those points in the text I would know how to practice the Dhamma and would not be hindered by my automatic actions in my thought that I dont even see what I am doing nor how to restrain it.
Thank you very much.
And 'love' in 'loving kindness'? That's love too, right?
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If the Buddha did not have any compassion, we would never have had the Dhamma here today.
What do you mean? Compassion is not love.
@Samuli Matilainen You are just playing with words. The Buddha taught for our benefit, because he cared about us. There is no other possible motivation for him to teach. It is perfectly possible to care about someone without getting entangled in their suffering. Did the Buddha ever cry for others? Not that I know of.
@@cariyaputta Compassion is a part of love, motherly love. The Buddha taught us to care for others "as a mother for her only child". That doesn't leave much room for interpretation does it?
@Samuli Matilainen That second translation seems pretty straightforward and unambiguous to me. When the Buddha went to help Angulimala did he not risk his life to save him, very similar to your example?
Could it be that you do not particularly like the idea of practicing metta in this way, and are therefore coming up with alternative interpretations that suit you better?
Agree
Fearful , yes,but yes, Love is not equanimity.
Shadu Shadu Shadu.
He trying to define love without knowing the creator of love. When we truly love God there is no attachment to this world or the things in it. So this information is incomplete, therefore partial. Not whole. The love of God is perfect
@tasshin