@@paulph12002 well as someone who has played guitar for many years, and taking lots of lessons and played with lots of different people, i can say from my experience that calling bernard sumner one of my fav guitarists has gotten lots of head scratches and questions.
Ian Curtis is one of those rare people I never knew, and died 13 years before I was born, but who I feel like I miss dearly and know so well through his lyrics.
Love that they mention Martin Hannett. I consider him Joy Division's 5th member as he molded the band's sound in the studio. It's so sad he isn't alive anymore. It's so sad Ian died before the band finally achieved some recognition and it's so sad that the remaining band members don't talk to each other!
Couldn't have said it better myself, one of those bands groups of people that you trust top to bottom. Believe it or not one of the things I appreciate about Ian this that he exuded both strength and vulnerability, something I feel is missing from a lot of the music and bands of today. It's as if he's talking for you
Well done Hookey for credit where it is due. Without Martin Hannett, Unknown Pleasures and Closer would not have been as good. Absolute genius. RIP Martin.
Bought this album from a second hand record shop in 1982 because of the cover and the shop owners recommendation... As a thirteen year old, this album took me down a musical path that no one I know either understands or could fathom. Thank You Peter, Stephen, Bernard and Ian.... Martin Hannet. All, Absolute geniunses.
Heroes. All these three guys. Will they ever truly know what they gave to us all. For so many, Joy Division and then New Order has been the sound track to our lives. A heavenly gift.
These recent projects on this channel are like a heaven send for us diehard fans that don’t get to hear much new stuff about the band most of the time. Keep it up!
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It's definitely cool, but it also kills the mystique of the band. It's not very rock and roll to see your favorite artists on youtube talking about the mundane, wearing shorts, and just being average dudes.
The album is rather timeless and feels current or even somewhat modern still. Also, ace profile photo. Eraserhead is a classic and David Lynch is a god damn genius.
Unknown Pleasures is quite possibly one of if not the most important post-punk album of all time. From Disorder to I Remember Nothing, it’s a masterpiece. It’s pretty amazing that they only had short time of practicing their instruments and their songs. Then, they smashed the initial 10,000 copies of Unknown Pleasures, toured Europe,and influencing many bands. Joy Division is quite possibly the most influential post-punk band of all time and the most important post-punk band of all time.
I'm pretending these interviews were all done while all three were in the same room at the same time where Bernard and Hooky patched things up to start working together again. One can wish, right?
@@thewhoman3182 All the acting like a bitch and saying crap like, "they're not New Order", all childish @s fuck. Also I heard him say on the radio in an interview where he says if Bernard, Stephen, Gillian and Phil had asked him if they could still use the name "New Order" he would have said yes......WHAT?!?!?!?! So basically he's used them because he was in the huff!
@@thegreenbastard5171 the reason hooky says "they're pretending to be New Order" is because the New Order you see now aren't technically the same band.They had to license the name New Order from New Order for the new band. And because legal stuff is complicated, the new band basically bought all the rights and everything from the old band, this effectively meant Hooky got written out of the split so he couldn't make money from New Order. And considering he made up 1/4th of New Order and wrote a lot of the bloody songs I can understand why he isn't particularly pleased. Also when Steve, Gillian and Barney met up to start up again they never asked Hooky if he wanted to be part of it, which is a bit of a dick move.
I remember Joy Division supporting Buxzzcocks at Birmingham Odeoan i was waiting to get Buzzcocks album signed and they walked past Ian was the one who smiled and said hello
Somethings you remember for the rest of your life, I'm never gonna forget the first time i listened to this album. It changed me in ways i didn't know at the time, only now, several years later, i can appreciate the influence Unknown Pleasures had in my life. That's true art.
I feel so sorry for Barney, Hooky and Steve, even nearly 41 years after Ian died, they still miss him loads. It’s very poignant hearing them talk about him. Rip Ian Curtis 1956 - 1980 🕊
it was 2015 when i first listen to Joy Division. I was 15. Now i'm 19 and i feel blessed for listening to them back then. One day I want the 3/4 members of Joy Division to announce a tour. I know it won't be "Joy Division" without Ian, but we still gonna love it. We all gonna be thrilled for good.
I did buy first JD album just after reading about the band on Melody Maker, many many years ago. A month after had to buy another one: the vynil was consumed! I had the honour to attend a New Order gig at Tenax, Florence (Italy) 1982. AMAZING.
No recordaba que le di like a este comentario, toda la razon, cuando conoces a alguien que le gusta Joy Division de la misma manera que a uno hay una gran conexion
Could listen to them tell stories about Joy Division for hours and hours. In an alternate universe where Ian survived his illness where would the band of gone in terms of sound and genre? The 80’s were a strange time...
UNKNOWN PLEASURES es uno de los mas grandiosos albumnes de la historia , para mi mucho mas profundo e impactante que CLOSER , el cual muchos señalan como el mejor album de la banda .La oscuridad que emana la musica parece propio de una pelicula de terror o ciencia ficcion , pareciera que algo va a suceder en los proximos segundos , a mi me paso eso la primera vez que lo descubri hace como 15 años atras o mas , creci escuchando NEW ORDER y JOY DIVISION obviamente lo iba a descubrir mas temprano que tarde , a la banda le hubiera bastado con este disco solo para entrar en la historia , asi como sex pistols no necesito mas que de " nevermind the bollocks " . JOY DIVISION es un punto y aparte en la historia de la musica popular , es otra manera de hacer y entender la musica a traves de las emociones mas profundas del ser humano , por que hasta ellos y muy especialmente este disco , las bandas le cantaban a las chicas o a la droga .Larga vida a unknown pleasures y JD !
3 years old I was when this album came out. 9 years later thru college radio I heard tracks that impressed and changed my value of music till this day. According to an interview with Peter Hook, the 1st song they recorded is the 1st track on the LP, Disorder, which is, has been and will always be my definitive song from JD. For me, it's *the* perfect song. The drums that start the song and just don't stop. The bass that comes next and a band that finally gave bass a voice. The guitar riff that's just endless. Then the great Ian, just jams and me "seeing" him do his *robotic* dance. The best. Thanks guys. Truly.
Sumners one of the most underrated guitarists. His simplicity is what makes it so good in my opinion.
Why oh why does every musician have to be described as *underrated* on RUclips
🤦♂
@@paulph12002 well as someone who has played guitar for many years, and taking lots of lessons and played with lots of different people, i can say from my experience that calling bernard sumner one of my fav guitarists has gotten lots of head scratches and questions.
@@paulph12002
Because you're into a lot of underrated music
Ian Curtis is one of those rare people I never knew, and died 13 years before I was born, but who I feel like I miss dearly and know so well through his lyrics.
Its the beauty of the eternal conversation that exists in great recordings and writings
One of the greatest albums ever turns 40. Happy Birthday. Still miss Ian & Martin Hannet.
and Rob Gretton.
It’s alreet. It’s not spectacular or summut. It’s ok with the drum machine. Ian was a trampoline for this bands future. It’s a fecking business. ☝️💚🎧
@starkravingnormal "broken troubled Earth" Cheer up. You've been od'ing on Joy Div? I find them positive!
@@djdoolittle1315 delusional
And Tony Wilson
They all look healthy and vibrant. Good on them.
Apart from barney and Steve's teeth, they could do with getting whitened
@@Pazuzu82 that's just a side effect of being british
Love that they mention Martin Hannett. I consider him Joy Division's 5th member as he molded the band's sound in the studio. It's so sad he isn't alive anymore. It's so sad Ian died before the band finally achieved some recognition and it's so sad that the remaining band members don't talk to each other!
They were together for 30 years before they pissed each other off. Most bands don't make it past the fame money and ego trips of early success.
40 years hard to believe. Grew up in the 90s and JD got me through some though times. Ian got me out of the darkness, to bad he couldn't get out also.
Couldn't have said it better myself, one of those bands groups of people that you trust top to bottom. Believe it or not one of the things I appreciate about Ian this that he exuded both strength and vulnerability, something I feel is missing from a lot of the music and bands of today. It's as if he's talking for you
Little did these 20-some year olds know they had just recorded their magnum opus, a timeless classic.
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@rahul dio It's a coinflip to be honest, but to me it's Unknown Pleasures.
Well, we could say Joy Division was New Order's magnum opus in a way... :-D
Theyre humble for what they did easily😂
Well done Hookey for credit where it is due. Without Martin Hannett, Unknown Pleasures and Closer would not have been as good. Absolute genius.
RIP Martin.
he does say the same thing but in greater depth on his book
Joy division, beauty and dark.
Vitor Hayward joy division it’s grey
Learn English you flabby bungholr
@A A you're a shit prick
Empaths and spiritual awakened and painful disorder isn't dark but isolated
I find it a bit scary how much I relate to some of these songs
Bought this album from a second hand record shop in 1982 because of the cover and the shop owners recommendation... As a thirteen year old, this album took me down a musical path that no one I know either understands or could fathom. Thank You Peter, Stephen, Bernard and Ian.... Martin Hannet. All, Absolute geniunses.
Heroes. All these three guys. Will they ever truly know what they gave to us all. For so many, Joy Division and then New Order has been the sound track to our lives. A heavenly gift.
These recent projects on this channel are like a heaven send for us diehard fans that don’t get to hear much new stuff about the band most of the time.
Keep it up!
It's definitely cool, but it also kills the mystique of the band. It's not very rock and roll to see your favorite artists on youtube talking about the mundane, wearing shorts, and just being average dudes.
I like how they still have these nice memories of ian smiling
Beautiful. Working class guys showing everybody else what they were capable of.
I love the way Peter Hook talks, I could listen about Joy Division all day & night.
Read his books. Very good.
Love this! Wish it were longer though. Us JD fans have so little to remember this amazing group by and every interview really counts!
So true 🙌
Hey Stephen! You all are the most underrated jam band on the planet…so that jamming was the prelude to greatness
So nice to hear from all three of them. If only they’d get in a room together.
Ian Curtis forever!!!
Hell Yeah!
40 years and still feels like it came out today..
Ok
@@elviomamini2987 👍
The album is rather timeless and feels current or even somewhat modern still.
Also, ace profile photo. Eraserhead is a classic and David Lynch is a god damn genius.
@@ianturnbow7011 agree 💯
At everything you said
@Space Alien Jesus
Yeah I suspect Ian Curtis is in heaven now where everything is fine. If you get what I mean
Unknown Pleasures is quite possibly one of if not the most important post-punk album of all time. From Disorder to I Remember Nothing, it’s a masterpiece. It’s pretty amazing that they only had short time of practicing their instruments and their songs. Then, they smashed the initial 10,000 copies of Unknown Pleasures, toured Europe,and influencing many bands. Joy Division is quite possibly the most influential post-punk band of all time and the most important post-punk band of all time.
holy shit Stephen Morris looks so good still! Looks 20 years younger than Bernard and 15 years younger than Hooky
Ian Morrison when you play the drums at the speed Stephen does you might as well run 5 miles every day
I'm pretending these interviews were all done while all three were in the same room at the same time where Bernard and Hooky patched things up to start working together again. One can wish, right?
Hooky is a prick!
@@thegreenbastard5171 How?
@@thewhoman3182 All the acting like a bitch and saying crap like, "they're not New Order", all childish @s fuck. Also I heard him say on the radio in an interview where he says if Bernard, Stephen, Gillian and Phil had asked him if they could still use the name "New Order" he would have said yes......WHAT?!?!?!?! So basically he's used them because he was in the huff!
The Green Bastard not cool using a fake name barney you old queen
@@thegreenbastard5171 the reason hooky says "they're pretending to be New Order" is because the New Order you see now aren't technically the same band.They had to license the name New Order from New Order for the new band. And because legal stuff is complicated, the new band basically bought all the rights and everything from the old band, this effectively meant Hooky got written out of the split so he couldn't make money from New Order. And considering he made up 1/4th of New Order and wrote a lot of the bloody songs I can understand why he isn't particularly pleased.
Also when Steve, Gillian and Barney met up to start up again they never asked Hooky if he wanted to be part of it, which is a bit of a dick move.
Peter Hook has great expressions while speaking. Watching him talk is just as good as hearing him talk.
Still one of the greatest debuts ever .dark .moody and something beautiful to .god bless joy division
Interesting.....frequent uploads from this channel. Great news!.
"But he smiled a lot" ❤
I'm going to see Hook playing Joy Division orchestrated at Sydney opera house in August. So stoked!
How was it?
I remember Joy Division supporting Buxzzcocks at Birmingham Odeoan i was waiting to get Buzzcocks album signed and they walked past Ian was the one who smiled and said hello
Joy Division were unlike anything at the time. No other artist could match in 79/80 and what they produced was something truly special.
Special Thanks to Mr. Martin 'faster but slower' Hammett
Gracias por todo Muchachos!!!!
Su música ha Sido lo mejor que le ha podido pasar al Mundo.
Saludos de Colombia.🤗
Joy Division - heroes of my rough youth. And Unknown Pleasures - the very first album bought for own money. Nostalgia...
Barnie and Hookie, kiss and make up already man. Barnie, give him a fair deal cmon.
Somethings you remember for the rest of your life, I'm never gonna forget the first time i listened to this album. It changed me in ways i didn't know at the time, only now, several years later, i can appreciate the influence Unknown Pleasures had in my life. That's true art.
I feel so sorry for Barney, Hooky and Steve, even nearly 41 years after Ian died, they still miss him loads. It’s very poignant hearing them talk about him. Rip Ian Curtis 1956 - 1980 🕊
“I can’t believe I used to drink Brown Ale”
stephen morris is a great drummer
it was 2015 when i first listen to Joy Division. I was 15. Now i'm 19 and i feel blessed for listening to them back then. One day I want the 3/4 members of Joy Division to announce a tour. I know it won't be "Joy Division" without Ian, but we still gonna love it. We all gonna be thrilled for good.
Joy Division = Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Daniel Melo yes
I did buy first JD album just after reading about the band on Melody Maker, many many years ago. A month after had to buy another one: the vynil was consumed!
I had the honour to attend a New Order gig at Tenax, Florence (Italy) 1982. AMAZING.
Happy birthday
Joy divsion.. immortal
Disco inmortal!
Himno de la desolación y la ira, la poesía y la reverberación del existencialismo. Obra maestra.
No, solo es música.
@@mauriciocamarena1138 las letras están cargadas de existencialismo ... Alguna vez has traducido alguna letra ?
No recordaba que le di like a este comentario, toda la razon, cuando conoces a alguien que le gusta Joy Division de la misma manera que a uno hay una gran conexion
I love Barney, Peter and Steve great musicians!
this music helped me a lot and I probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for it.
so much love❤️❤️
"Oh, I've walked on water, run through fire
Can't seem to feel it anymore."
Thank you for this. Your music really got me through the most rough times of my life.
John Peel
They are all so brilliant
First time I heard this, I knew nothing would be the same. What a legacy.
this made my day yay!!
Happy birthday 'Unknown pleasures'...the first Joy Division's album I listened💓
Especially 40 years ago it was the first album by them anyone had heard
Great choice playing my favorite JD song in the background, Disorder.
Esses caras são a história do Rock Inglês ➕➖
Muito obrigada por tudo. Amo vocês.
I love this music. ❤
Fantastisk intervju av ett av de bästa band någonsin. Mvh Lars
Stephen looks so young
Love 'em. They had no idea they were about to change the world with that album.
Djlullaby22 in what way? Joy division were an underground sub culture scenem New Order were and are an international band.
Joy division forever 💜
Happy birthday Unknown Pleasures 😍
More please! I could listen to these stories all day.
One of the best albums by the best artists in our generation before or past
Saludos desde Peru, gracias por su musica
A truly epic masterpiece of music.
More of these! Loved them
FEELING FEELING FEELING FEELING FEELING FEELING FEEEEELAAAAAAAANG
Still the greatest...love all of you forever!!!
Could listen to them tell stories about Joy Division for hours and hours.
In an alternate universe where Ian survived his illness where would the band of gone in terms of sound and genre? The 80’s were a strange time...
A major music album ever recorded to me after all the decades.
My favorite band Joy Division
Dance dance dance dance dance to the radio
true music from the heart. you will always be my favorite.
Whether they did it in an hour or a year it's one of the best albums ever made.
Hooky, will see you in Vancouver in November, can not wait!
UNKNOWN PLEASURES es uno de los mas grandiosos albumnes de la historia , para mi mucho mas profundo e impactante que CLOSER , el cual muchos señalan como el mejor album de la banda .La oscuridad que emana la musica parece propio de una pelicula de terror o ciencia ficcion , pareciera que algo va a suceder en los proximos segundos , a mi me paso eso la primera vez que lo descubri hace como 15 años atras o mas , creci escuchando NEW ORDER y JOY DIVISION obviamente lo iba a descubrir mas temprano que tarde , a la banda le hubiera bastado con este disco solo para entrar en la historia , asi como sex pistols no necesito mas que de " nevermind the bollocks " . JOY DIVISION es un punto y aparte en la historia de la musica popular , es otra manera de hacer y entender la musica a traves de las emociones mas profundas del ser humano , por que hasta ellos y muy especialmente este disco , las bandas le cantaban a las chicas o a la droga .Larga vida a unknown pleasures y JD !
Geniuses.
All of them.
can't wait for the next ep
Alejandro Ramirez lol
Good show! Cheers to a classic
Exelente banda...al dia de hoy siguen siendo pioneros y sus sonidos super originales e inigualables.
A Lifetime Love.
Great album 🖤
Great album.
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Love u guys
Thank you 🙏
Steve has a HAL jacket from 2001
Undercover collab HAL Laboratories bomber jacket.
Undercover AW18
Never noticed that but the first time I heard this song, someone had put the track to clips of 2001 A Space Odyssey, how rentals is v that?!?!
E pensar que essa jóia completa 40 anos, 1979 ano de excelentes discos aqui no Brasil e em outros países .
Ian rest in peace
Fucking incredible. Great to see these guys in a video together!
Masterpiece
Yay, cool interview
Legends
3 years old I was when this album came out. 9 years later thru college radio I heard tracks that impressed and changed my value of music till this day. According to an interview with Peter Hook, the 1st song they recorded is the 1st track on the LP, Disorder, which is, has been and will always be my definitive song from JD. For me, it's *the* perfect song. The drums that start the song and just don't stop. The bass that comes next and a band that finally gave bass a voice. The guitar riff that's just endless. Then the great Ian, just jams and me "seeing" him do his *robotic* dance. The best. Thanks guys. Truly.
Legends.
Love this♥️
born that day!!! Misterious like me.
imagine being a grandson of bernard fucking sumner hahaha pretty cool
Probably on my own with this. But I always felt Movement was the greatest Joy Division album, even though written by New Order after Ian had passed
It should have been re-recorded with a proper producer. Decent songs but terrible muddy production.
Two studio albums and no selling out! Perfect. I'd still want Ian alive though. I could see him working with Brian Eno or John Cale and Nico.