@lorenzoamstelveen3156 its crazy the biggest difference between the best drivers and mediocre drivers. is their ability, effectiveness and consistency to adapt to unknown situations. that pro driver may have drove a 41 but 5 laps later he may be driving 35s and be able to maintain that. unlike others who have to practive to achive a a 41, while the pro has already improved snd left them in the dust again.
@@aaroncousins4750 he may have, this is just an example. but what im saying is when you throw a pro and a mediocre driver at a new track the pro will get much better much faster. that is the whole point of my explination.
The fact he weighs 100 pounds less than them in a freaking go cart is a no brainer he's going to go a lot faster. It takes a lot of horsepower to make up such a weight discrepancy and here you have none.
My job pays so well that I might need to *split a chocolate milk with the guy, also I think that he would have been 3 or 4 seconds faster if you didn't have the camera on his car which probably created all sorts of drag
Years ago I was at a local indoor karting track with a car club and one of the other guys brought along two buddies, one of whom was a seasoned professional sports car driver and the other a younger professional kart racer. This was their first time at this facility; I knew it well. We started the session and I thought I was doing about my best and holding my own, when I felt a gentle courtesy tap on my rear bumper as I was at the end of one of the straights. Before I could register what that meant, the two pro drivers blasted by me like I was standing still. I thought to myself "ok, this is good - I can follow their line and learn something". Wrong. They were gone so fast, I didn't have a chance of following. The experience was so impressive and humbling. But yeah, this is why they're professionals.
if you were left alone on an island and invented a new dance style, then went to a club in ibiza you would be humbled in a second. you need to be a small fish in a big pond to learn.
In formula racing you only need one side of wheels on or in the white line to be considered valid and I don’t think this guy ever had all four wheels outside the white line
I drove at a few indoor cart tracks for team building exercises and fun with coworkers and friends. Nobody had any great cart driving skills or much experience. Watching the serious racers, even driving indoor tracks, really showed the huge difference in driving skill and technique. Watching their line, never really lifting, and a light touch on the braking was an education.
Uhm, when you are being competitive, its maximum braking, maximum acceleration and maxed out lateral G. There is smooth as you transition from one to the other, but there is no 'light touch' The hardest part is understanding the tradeoff between lines and braking. Sometimes its better to tap the brakes and pivot, vs. the perfect line around the corner.
@@confuse3671 rental karts don't have enough power, if you touch the brake you're cooked. Just trying to lift and pivot the kart by gassing up a bit or tiny brake kicks on hairpins and such. Hard braking is gonna make a rental kart take a year to make top speed again
Sure, they are all using the same go cart for the run, but in a real competition, they'll have different go karts from different teams. And depending on the price, some go karts are definitely better than others, with the better ones giving the driver an advantage.
@@eudofiaThat's debatable. A large part of why certain manufacturers are faster is that their R and D have figured out ways to get the most out of their vehicles given the limits imposed on the cars (weight, hp, etc). Another factor is that certain manufacturers have their cars tailored to the driver better than others (no two drivers have the same preferences).
@@gozinta82 So, we are basically saying the same thing. The chassis, engine and setup play a huge role in race outcomes. And of course, having a talented driver also plays a big role. A team can have the best karts, but if the driver sucks, they're not going to win much. And a very talented driver in a crappy kart is not going to win either. Lewis Hamilton always tells the story of how he started out in karting. His family couldn't afford the latest machinery, so they had to settle for used karts that his dad would tinker in the garage. He couldn't win races with those until they eventually got the Mclaren sponsorship and could afford better equipment.
@@eudofiaBut which drivers get to drive those cars? Which drivers are teams willing to invest in? It’s not the good driver with a phenomenal car that wins. It’s the phenomenal driver with a good car that wins. A phenomenal driver paired with a phenomenon car? Virtually unbeatable.
@@eudofiaLewis Hamilton won races with his father's karts. He was already racing & beating Rosberg, who was in much better equipment. He was promised a space in McLaren by Ron Dennis after seeing how good Lewis was. In fact, at a tourney, Lewis won with his father's kart
And it's not just 20 seconds, he was FIFTY PERCENT faster by average speed around the lap. That's the difference between my Miata and the outright lap record at my local track.
My first thought was that if this guy is in F3, he might not be used to the dynamics of a kart and he could be blown away. My second thought was, but that's how he got up to F3, so I bet this is gonna be like speed running Super Mario Bros for a Gen Xer - it's just a game they don't even play anymore lol.
nah, the likes of roman grosjean have often commented about how kz karts are often more intense, cause there is no strategy or tire saving, just pure flat out pace
I was lucky enough to get a karting lesson from an F3 driver this past weekend. His best time was certainly better, but what blew my mind was that he was able to run extremely close to that almost every lap. It was insane and humbling.
When you're driving full time the fun and excitement of it give way to a business-like analytical understanding of what you and the car are doing. The pros can run repeatable laps, and are expected to. It's part of the job.
This is a track local to me (Buckmore Park) in a normal open practice session with the 4 stroke hire karts most reasonably quick drivers will get 50 second laps or even in the 49 seconds, I don’t know what they were doing to begin with to be around a minute in a kart like that 🤣
Exactly. A normal delta is up to 10 or 20 percent for OK drivers, not 50 percent (62 s versus 41 s). And if they keep working on it, they can get very close to the racer's time.
He’s so smooth and the speed he carries everywhere is mind boggling also lots of left foot braking making the rear rotate slightly and killing the under steer .
@@icebox9093 Most racing drivers use left foot braking in all formulas, rally drivers too. You can see videos of it on RUclips. On many karts you can't move your right foot across to the brake pedal anyway because the steering column is in the way. Left foot braking is faster, there's no time wasted moving your foot sideways.
In the kart he was driving, it would be possible depending on how much karting experience you have. I feel like I could do it, I'd just need to learn how a prokart feels for a while.
I like that he says that you just don't know how fast he's going, "you'd have to be driving one of those to know how Quick of a speed your traveling" *BASICALLY* 😊
A pro driver in any motorsport is a different breed of human. Raced MX since I could walk and was a top 250A rider (in 2001-2003). Could make most riders look like beginners and if I didn't crash would beat the 2nd place rider by half a track. Then I was on the track practicing and a pro rider was on there too. Made me look like I had never ridden before and was on THE SAME BIKE (But a factory practice bike.....HUGE difference). I honestly thought there was no way to make a machine go faster than I could......then I realized what a Pro is. Very humbling learning experience. Thanks Ron-Ron, that was an awesome day ya french bastard!
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As an F3 driver, I can confirm that Chocolate milk is the best thing you can offer to make us go fast.
Sarcasm?
@@shrexyisrealyou're dumb
as a f4 drive i agree
You are not.
"An F3 driver" ?? AN?? Fakeness even in vovels.
“I’ll buy you a chocolate milk”
F3 driver: “say no more.”
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Rumour has it they pay Max Verstappen in chocolate milk.
His jacket says F4
"You don't realize how fast it is"
Bro I'm watching, it's fast AF.
All I hear is "I'm fast af boiii"
@@davidlam9952no thats bullsh*t i'm fast af boii😂i
Literally, my exact thought😂
Its different kind fast when see on the track compared to watching a video of it
Yo I’ve been here this is buckmore park my best is like 1 min 2 seconds or something
That’s actually insane. The time difference in a 1 minute race to 40 seconds is like a year. Same vehicle same track. 🤯
100 pound lighter driver on a go-cart
@@bradsanders407make some massive difference. Glad somebody else was smart enough to see it
yeah true, let's not forget that drivers are athletes as well @@bradsanders407
Weight is sometimes better in certain corners. So, it does not matter. Its all the driver. @heinous70
There's a reason teams get caught adding weight to their cars in f1 lol
Damn didn’t expect it to be THAT much of a gap
Those guys eventually did the same lap time the same day just practicing a couple laps
@lorenzoamstelveen3156 its crazy the biggest difference between the best drivers and mediocre drivers. is their ability, effectiveness and consistency to adapt to unknown situations. that pro driver may have drove a 41 but 5 laps later he may be driving 35s and be able to maintain that. unlike others who have to practive to achive a a 41, while the pro has already improved snd left them in the dust again.
@@warfin1379how do u know the "pro" hasnt already experienced the track
These guys were probably ass🗿
@@aaroncousins4750 he may have, this is just an example. but what im saying is when you throw a pro and a mediocre driver at a new track the pro will get much better much faster. that is the whole point of my explination.
Never underestimate what an F3 driver will do for a chocolate milk...
Never underestimate any racer, foot or vehicle in their conquest for all the chocolate milk. We love it with passion.
Imagine if it was an F1 driver? 😳
NASCAR driver would probably lose, then get out of the kart and beat them up for the chocolate milk. 😅
Nascar would crash, then sprint the reat of the way@@TheEDFLegacy
While you're all arguing with each other, you forgot to mention. How hot is it inside of a NASCAR
It was the challenge. The race driver set a goal to shoot for.
when you see that "RED BULL" sign, you know it all make sense now
I thought it was max.. Turned out it's even just a pro F3 racer.. Amazing
Thai is fast
Red Bull ✌️
He won the SHOKOLAATE MULK tho 😂
Good try, its Melk😃😃
Chocolade melk its dutch/flemish in robs case
The fact he instantly said 45. I knew it was game over.
And clearly he was being conservative with his estimated track time.
The fact he weighs 100 pounds less than them in a freaking go cart is a no brainer he's going to go a lot faster. It takes a lot of horsepower to make up such a weight discrepancy and here you have none.
@@bradsanders407where does it say hes 100 lbs less
the fat one drove a 46 after ... actually the pro was pretty slow
@@bradsanders407if you really think 20 seconds is due just to weight you are stupid or just don’t know racing
"I'll buy you a..."
*thinks of account balance*
"...chocolate milk."
😂
😅😅😅
😂
😂😂😂
My job pays so well that I might need to *split a chocolate milk with the guy, also I think that he would have been 3 or 4 seconds faster if you didn't have the camera on his car which probably created all sorts of drag
Years ago I was at a local indoor karting track with a car club and one of the other guys brought along two buddies, one of whom was a seasoned professional sports car driver and the other a younger professional kart racer. This was their first time at this facility; I knew it well. We started the session and I thought I was doing about my best and holding my own, when I felt a gentle courtesy tap on my rear bumper as I was at the end of one of the straights. Before I could register what that meant, the two pro drivers blasted by me like I was standing still. I thought to myself "ok, this is good - I can follow their line and learn something". Wrong. They were gone so fast, I didn't have a chance of following. The experience was so impressive and humbling. But yeah, this is why they're professionals.
It's that feel they have for the machinery they're using. Plus fear also plays a huge factor
if you were left alone on an island and invented a new dance style, then went to a club in ibiza you would be humbled in a second. you need to be a small fish in a big pond to learn.
They literally get paid to do this all day.
When you realize this guy probably has more experience driving carts than actual race cars because that’s where they all start off it all makes sense
“Kart is under investigation for exceeding track limits”
In formula racing you only need one side of wheels on or in the white line to be considered valid and I don’t think this guy ever had all four wheels outside the white line
😂😂😂
@@MykeGTYTlast corner lol
Thats what we do
5 seconds penalty to Ocon.
Bro said choc milk in dutch
Jep
Hey, ik ben ook nederlands
He really wanted that choc milk
@@GTRL3sliefan-Jortok but why is this information worth sharing in a comment?
@@nico_mit_hut bc someone else is also dutch, so dutch ppl can chat with each other
I drove at a few indoor cart tracks for team building exercises and fun with coworkers and friends. Nobody had any great cart driving skills or much experience. Watching the serious racers, even driving indoor tracks, really showed the huge difference in driving skill and technique. Watching their line, never really lifting, and a light touch on the braking was an education.
Uhm, when you are being competitive, its maximum braking, maximum acceleration and maxed out lateral G. There is smooth as you transition from one to the other, but there is no 'light touch'
The hardest part is understanding the tradeoff between lines and braking. Sometimes its better to tap the brakes and pivot, vs. the perfect line around the corner.
@@confuse3671 my thoughts as well
@@confuse3671not in rental karts where they don’t have much power
@@confuse3671🤓☝️
@@confuse3671 rental karts don't have enough power, if you touch the brake you're cooked. Just trying to lift and pivot the kart by gassing up a bit or tiny brake kicks on hairpins and such. Hard braking is gonna make a rental kart take a year to make top speed again
My toxic trait is thinking I can 100% do this🤣
Maybe you can you never know. And btw they made shit times no way you he could make a lap so much faster
Nah I’ve been there it’s called buckmore park and my best is like 59 seconds 41 seconds is crazy
same, I could easily do a lap in 1:45
@@olkkiman that’s…a whole extra minute man😂😅
@@welkarma I know and I'm saying I could easily do it
Perfect demo for, " its not the car, its the driver"
Sure, they are all using the same go cart for the run, but in a real competition, they'll have different go karts from different teams. And depending on the price, some go karts are definitely better than others, with the better ones giving the driver an advantage.
@@eudofiaThat's debatable. A large part of why certain manufacturers are faster is that their R and D have figured out ways to get the most out of their vehicles given the limits imposed on the cars (weight, hp, etc). Another factor is that certain manufacturers have their cars tailored to the driver better than others (no two drivers have the same preferences).
@@gozinta82 So, we are basically saying the same thing. The chassis, engine and setup play a huge role in race outcomes. And of course, having a talented driver also plays a big role. A team can have the best karts, but if the driver sucks, they're not going to win much. And a very talented driver in a crappy kart is not going to win either.
Lewis Hamilton always tells the story of how he started out in karting. His family couldn't afford the latest machinery, so they had to settle for used karts that his dad would tinker in the garage. He couldn't win races with those until they eventually got the Mclaren sponsorship and could afford better equipment.
@@eudofiaBut which drivers get to drive those cars? Which drivers are teams willing to invest in?
It’s not the good driver with a phenomenal car that wins. It’s the phenomenal driver with a good car that wins.
A phenomenal driver paired with a phenomenon car? Virtually unbeatable.
@@eudofiaLewis Hamilton won races with his father's karts. He was already racing & beating Rosberg, who was in much better equipment. He was promised a space in McLaren by Ron Dennis after seeing how good Lewis was. In fact, at a tourney, Lewis won with his father's kart
These guys started their careers in go carts
Beat me too it. Pretty much all European race car drivers (esp formula) are expert go-cart drivers.
Not only are they ex-pro kart drivers they also drive waaay faster than this for a living lol of course dude was about to crush that time
nor/swe/fin often start in rally cross
@@hotdog9262how do you start in rallye cross? Who lets an amateur start in that?
Not only that but they were the best of the best in go carts
The fact that he was being humble with that number. 😭
"How much faster is a pro?"
Answer: "A lot."
And it's not just 20 seconds, he was FIFTY PERCENT faster by average speed around the lap.
That's the difference between my Miata and the outright lap record at my local track.
If he's an F3 driver, then he drove karts like this since he was 4 years old! This is his bread and butter.
He would probably be even faster after a few laps.
It's quite common for race car drivers to start out driving karts.
It's not common. it's pretty much a given for top-tier racers. Just like top-tier footballers start playing 5-aside at 4 yesrs old. @znail4675
@@znail4675 Not just common, it's the de facto standard
My first thought was that if this guy is in F3, he might not be used to the dynamics of a kart and he could be blown away. My second thought was, but that's how he got up to F3, so I bet this is gonna be like speed running Super Mario Bros for a Gen Xer - it's just a game they don't even play anymore lol.
For a Pro Driver, a Go-Kart must be like a vacation
Like going from the new work truck back to your shitbox 😂
Like playing footie with your nephew after playing in the champions league
You're all talking shit
nah, the likes of roman grosjean have often commented about how kz karts are often more intense, cause there is no strategy or tire saving, just pure flat out pace
"Everything after Karting is a step down until F1" - Ayrton Senna. F1 drivers stay sharp in the off season by driving karts@@JoeWho1
ITs good getting to see what a pro driver can do, you get a better appreciation for whats possible, and it can help you push as well :D
I was lucky enough to get a karting lesson from an F3 driver this past weekend. His best time was certainly better, but what blew my mind was that he was able to run extremely close to that almost every lap. It was insane and humbling.
When you're driving full time the fun and excitement of it give way to a business-like analytical understanding of what you and the car are doing. The pros can run repeatable laps, and are expected to. It's part of the job.
Bro really wants that chocolate milk 😂
Redbull drivers are a different breed it seems
redbull and chocolate milk, breakfast of champions!
The chocolate milk over there is INCREDIBLE.
He's a racer, all he cares about is going fast
bro locked in when he heard he is getting the elixir of the ice dwellers as betting prize
The "Chocolate Milk" had me 😂
What I thought he was gonna give him: $1000
But what he gave instead: chocolate milk😂
Sorry, Pal, you didn't make it in 45 seconds …
Bet..
Lmao
"in 45 seconds" means within the timeframe so any time under counts 🤓
"But I need that money"
@@dazeen9591You don't say?!? i.imgur.com/38BlfVp.png
16 seconds on a 42 second track is insane
So is a 100lbs weight difference on a go kart
The 1 minute drivers are just too slow.. Should not be a benchmark for average kart drivers..
@@kokoaja7135 Define "average kart driver".
I wanna see the non pro records for this track. 0-5 seconds it makes sense 15 is way too much.
@@leefswgoh7558 if 40 seconds is possible anyone with half a brain can achieve 50
They thought he was being cocky. My man was actually being modest 🤣🤣💪🏼💪🏼
Bro the motivation was the instant thing he needed to boost his career
Dude utilised all the track and drove to the absolute limit. That’s sick 🤙
surely not absolute but he killed it!
Bro heard chocolate milk and he locked in
F3 - 41 seconds
F2 - 39 seconds
F1 - 35 seconds
Verstappen - 30 seconds
No i dont think verstappen can do better than 35 sec
Verstappen can shatter whatever the record is. He is not from this world since he stepped in a car when he was a baby @@Dark-Fire18
Me: 5 seconds, but thats not on go carts
Max could probably manage sub 40’s fairly easily….. after that the differences are gonna be far smaller.
Leclerc 28,5 seconds
"If you do that I will buy you uhhh, Chocolade melk"
This is a track local to me (Buckmore Park) in a normal open practice session with the 4 stroke hire karts most reasonably quick drivers will get 50 second laps or even in the 49 seconds, I don’t know what they were doing to begin with to be around a minute in a kart like that 🤣
Yeah, their times were nonsense. My kid races there and does 44/45s in a Honda/micro cadet and 41s on an inter.
They eventually got into the 40's after practicing a bit. It was their first times.
Exactly. A normal delta is up to 10 or 20 percent for OK drivers, not 50 percent (62 s versus 41 s). And if they keep working on it, they can get very close to the racer's time.
Best motivation for a Man is announcing that Chocky Milk will be rewarded.
The best part is that he’s still a kid, the lad is only 16
"Now get your own cart and let's see how you do in a crowd..." haha couldn't help the Days of Thunder reference. 😂
When you're a pro at the game but you make a new account to beat the sh** out of new players at low levels
Lol!
He’s so smooth and the speed he carries everywhere is mind boggling also lots of left foot braking making the rear rotate slightly and killing the under steer .
left foot braking 😂 I see what you did there
left foot breaking? 😂😂😂
@@icebox9093 or how about Left foot braking gork 😂
Watch Carlos Sainz goes Karting video and learn something gorks 😂
@@icebox9093 Most racing drivers use left foot braking in all formulas, rally drivers too. You can see videos of it on RUclips.
On many karts you can't move your right foot across to the brake pedal anyway because the steering column is in the way. Left foot braking is faster, there's no time wasted moving your foot sideways.
these guys are BORN on KartTracks ♥
19 seconds difference is insane
My toxic trait is thinking that I could do it in less than 45 seconds.
In the kart he was driving, it would be possible depending on how much karting experience you have. I feel like I could do it, I'd just need to learn how a prokart feels for a while.
Well my karting experience is none. 😂
Now i want to see the F1 roster do one race with just karts
This video is pure gold.
Arvid was a championship winning kart racer as a kid. Plus, anyone named Arvid is instantly awesome in my books.
That was a professionally designed track.
Looks like Buckmore Park, UK
When home field advantage shows up. My boys been around that track in his dreams probably. Much respect the grind
It's not just the practice that makes him better it's the talent too
Damn those tyres were shredding themselves on the corners!
bro was desperate for chocolate milk
My man knows the universal currency
Lol he drove on the racing line really well…
He is shredding those tires
that’s so amazing . he shave d 17 seconds of dudes lap . that’s stunning
If you listen really closely, you can hear the sound of Red Bull’s insurance provider having heart palpitations watching this video 😅
Bros line and speed were great
dude was like wtf? im building a gocart track on my villia!
That guy's line was crisp the whole way through. He defs knows what he's doing
Blud's really said "hol' dat bet"
He’s a redbull, fear factor is probably zero.
As an chocolatie meilk , i can confirm F3 drivers want me at all cost
“We the regular race fans “only take care about the next 2 corners ,this guy are ready for the entire track
Bro went back to the starting area after finishing the game
You can see the man shred the front tires
Bro went from hard difficulty to the "What is your name?" screen
I like that he says that you just don't know how fast he's going, "you'd have to be driving one of those to know how Quick of a speed your traveling" *BASICALLY* 😊
Bro was locked in when he knew he could get chocolate milk
Bro absolutely destroyed that gokart tho
Him: “… chocolate milk”
F3 driver: “say less”
Love how he has his Redbull suit on
Yeesh! I thought he had one more corner to go when homeboy said “41”
That's a freaking crazy gap, honestly. And the guy arguably wasn't even super warmed up with the exact way this cart feels 🤯
"Lap deleted, track limits."
Bro, a 41 sec lap deserves choccy milk and nuggies
The engine sounds like cricket screaming at night. With grass.
The guy who offers to buy a chocolate milk sounds like an American imitating a French accent 😂
He had that thing screaming down the track lol crazy the difference from every day dudes to pros
Racer: "Cho-co-Lah? Hold my RedBull."🤣
These guys were world class go kart drivers before making it to the formula classes, of course they’re gonna be unbelievably fast. Levels to the game.
He’s still about 2 seconds off the actually karters so he’s not that fast
Bro wanted that chocolate milk
A pro driver in any motorsport is a different breed of human. Raced MX since I could walk and was a top 250A rider (in 2001-2003). Could make most riders look like beginners and if I didn't crash would beat the 2nd place rider by half a track. Then I was on the track practicing and a pro rider was on there too. Made me look like I had never ridden before and was on THE SAME BIKE (But a factory practice bike.....HUGE difference). I honestly thought there was no way to make a machine go faster than I could......then I realized what a Pro is. Very humbling learning experience. Thanks Ron-Ron, that was an awesome day ya french bastard!
Best RUclipsr, Average Rob ♥️
this is like drive in slow motion for him LOL
You know he’s fast because he knows when to press the brakes
Perfect slip angle every corner it's like he's skating amazing
I love the IndyCar reference at 0:12
It’s all about those turns
I’ve driven on that track and that is blisteringly fast I can’t imagine how scary that time would be for a normal person
Bro fights for the chocolate milk like a king
"I will buy you schokolade milk" had me on the floor.
He was spreading the tyres if that go cart well done driver
On a short lap that difference is mental
(Above) What a diff the driver makes!
Minimal steering inputs helps a lot. Brake & pivot the kart into turns also helps because you can stay inside the engine torque band that way.
This guy who said the milk thing is a Belgian dude called Avarage Rob and after some more practice they did 43 or something as well
The professional isn't afraid to go flat out, a casual, is
Well, the guy's up on the sidewalk.
I’ve done kart racing a couple of times. It’s very physical. Extremely hard work.