This was rather exciting. It shows that properly trained amateur radio operators are able to pass emergency traffic with little to no effort. Station for standing by when they needed to allowing the primary stations to communicate with one another with one backup station for relays. Several years ago I worked in a minute life or death by amateur radio. I live in the mountains of Southern Cal where it snows. A young 4WD driver decided he and two others could make it through a blizzard on a back road just for fun. It didn't work out that way. They got high centered and all they could do was keep the heater running even though it offered minimal Heat. It took 11 hours to get search and rescue on scene and then another 13 hours to get them to a Trauma Center. Since I was working SAR with the fire department at the time the faster response was because I could communicate directly with the Battalion Chief on fire radio. As it turned out those calling for help were on CB radio which only became known to me once fire dispatch telephoned me. The point is not what I did but rather that proper training is incumbent upon amateur radio operators. Just knowing how to run your radios properly and establishing who, what, where, when, and why if known is important. Knowing not to jump in so you can be the one to help is also important. If the station needing help is already effectively communicating with another station that would be clear and everyone else should standby. So glad this worked out well. Bob ~ AF6D
I check in daily (sometimes several times a day) to the Maritime Mobile Service Net. It's a great bunch of guys doing an outstanding public service. They welcome check ins from all hams (General class and above) regardless if they are maritime mobile or not. Many times an inland ham will hear a maritime mobile no one else will hear, and relay to net control. If you're on 20 meters, you ought to check in sometime. (And, oh by the way, the guy in California in the first minute of the video is Gary, WB6UQA, who was my FIRST ham radio contact 38 years ago (on 2 meter simplex). 73 de AJ5F Dave.
I agree with Dave, and to Rich, GMDSS is great if your on a large fishing boat or greater displacement, but to spend $5000 on a GMDSS system for a 40 foot sail boat would be for really well stocked folks.
I've watched this video more times than I can count and it always fascinates me to hear how they work together and coordinate all these efforts to keep the Elusive safe until Coast Guard can get close by. Well done to all involved. My hat's off to you all! -KI7YDM
This is a wonderful video. I do my best to encourage people to come in to ham radio on my RUclips channel and help a lot of people to understand the things that we do. I’d like to use part of this video to explain the importance of hams during times of emergencies like this. This is an incredible recording. Talk about being at the right place at the right time. And it can help so many people just by hearing it. I’ll make sure and give credit to your channel as well as a link to it in the description section. Thank you for this amazing work. It’s what I think is the gold medal of what ham radio operators can do. Warm Regards, Larry de K7HN
I shared this with Burt Fisher, K1OIK whoo seemingly doesn't think Ham Radio can be relied on in an emergency. THAT WOULD BE NEWS to Wendy & the crew of the Elusive :) lol
@@asyncawaited the problem is, that a great majority of public visible wannabes are just that - running around in high vis jackets, badges and plenty of self importance , and they destroy the public image of amateur radio as an emergency service tool in america. So much so, that the worst critics come from the inside these days. (usually contester and award clickers) Must be a domestic thing - i am from europe, i dont see it here. But our army know where to find us if we are needed. I work with the german maritime radio service "intermar" (which stayed on 14313 after the americans have fled the frequency to occupy 300 khz) we had emergencies too, like broken masts on the middle of atlantic i.e. - interfacing between coast guard and the boat, and her family was evidently critical and only possible because of amateur radio. Since there are no official coastal stations in service anymore beyong rach of channel 16 that a privat boat could reach. (Satphones are not the solution to everything) Few private skippers have GMDSS or satphones - and both systems are not perfect. i.e. What do you call with those things? coastguard, right? - then comes a boat to tow you out - then you go bankcrupt. You didnt think the coastguards do that for free? There are many emergencies that can be dealt with between private individuals with CG as backup on a hotkey from a landbased-amateur net control. In my example, the broken mast ment propulsion was gone, which means food and water deplete faster than they would reach land - no cause for offical "mayday" because no immediate threat to life. But enough cause for distress - they juryrigged an emergency sail - and moved on with just 3 knots - everyday contact was made and status on supplies and boat condition verified. All the time CG on hotkey, and i believe at some point i was seeking contact to american netcontrols from 300khz (i wish there was more cooperation ongoing - would be good to have names on a hotlist to contact in such a case, cause americans might have been had more reliable contact) our amateur radio service offers practical advise from skipper to skipper - medical assistance from real doctors to crew - a connection to coast guard if need be - connection to family back home - relaying and connection to other boats in the area for help or just comfort. (nearby does not mean VHF close) Doing that with stuff like GMDSS is technically impossible, adding last minute information or having a "dialog" is hard - and emergencies on small yachts have usually not much time at their hands. Grabbing a mike, and reporting in cleartext what is happening right now - sometimes trumps a simple beacon with coordinates. In addition, ham radio gives you access to emails, weatherreports , news (pactor, winlink) - and not least better contact to other members in the community than a "satphone" or gmdss. Cant hurt to have all that too, but not everyone boating is rockefeller - also sailboats also have only limited power supplies. (its not like there is fuel to run a ships diesel all the time - main propulsion is wind) Too much stuff running permanently in the background is not a good idea on a sailboat, battery is needed for the fridge haha In any case, the coast guards we were dealing with - appreciate our work - also when amateurs think we should rather be "operating ft8" and do nothing else with the radios.
If you've ever shunned the idea of buddy-boating, this sad news may cause you to reassess your attitude. Steve and Wendy Bott and their son Allen were safely transferred to the San Diego-based Scarlett O'Hara shortly before sunset Saturday after their Ventura-based J/44 Elusive began sinking beneath them, roughly 500 miles north of Auckland. These boats and roughly 10 others had been buddy-boating between New Zealand and Fiji. The incident occurred during a regular session of the Pacific Seafarer's net, whose net controllers jumped into action coordinating communications with nearby vessels and emergency agencies. Elusive's EPIRB was activated, which brought U.S. SAR resources into play also. At this writing, the Bott family is headed north to Fiji aboard Scarlett O'Hara digesting the impact of the sudden tragedy. Although Elusive was insured, the family lost virtually everything they owned, as the 44-ft sloop was their home.
I have a large HF eam and a kilowatt. Sometimes I help relay information on 14.300 but never heard a mayday call. Ham radio works when everything else fails. Having an HF capable radio and antennas is a very wise decision.
I don't get the impression that anybody is suggesting that people equip their vessels with ONLY ham radio. But there's nothing wrong with having an amateur station as a back-up. People have died because they relied too much on modern technology, and that's a bad bet when you're, say, a hiker or motorist with only a cell phone in a valley surrounded by mountains. A cheap, simple HF radio with a wire antenna could save your life when a cell phone can't even reach a tower.
Indeed. When doing Amateur Radio events for outdoor sports in Upstate NY our repeaters and radios even on simplex just crushed cellular. We literally through up a wire antenna for 2 meters made out of 450ohm latter wire and pumped 10watts into it and had coverage across the entire south parts of the county even in a bad spot. A cellphone signal would be weak and the constant attempts to connect would drain the battery.....not so with a car battery hooked to a HAM radio! Can't beat it!
I think he is trying to push his own services. He may be a non-native English speaker which may be confusing for him. Idk why he's so hot and bothered by people suggesting the use of an HF radio as a BACKUP, no one technology is 100% reliable so it pays (in human life) to plan accordingly.
+nateo200 I dont knowwhat he is trying to push. He obviously knows nothing or very little about ham radio. Amateur radio requires no infrastructure like Internet, satellites, microwave links, telephone lines, repeaters etc. Of course it would not replace marine radio or any other modern communication devices. Unfortunately sometime modern means of communication fail due to power outages, man-made and natural disasters. Ham radio always works and it has been proven numerous times. Ham radio is great to have as a backup. Besides that it's a lot of fun. Imagine being in the open ocean, hundreds of miles away from civilization and being able to talk to other hams from all over the world. I have a 100 Watt mobile HF radio in my car. I often talk to European, South American, Australian stations on my drive to or from work. This is so much fun. I love this hobby!
That was quite a sketchy situation given the proximity to any land based help. Even a jet from California or Hawaii would take a couple hours to get there. Would the government task a satellite resource to track a pirate?
i find it strange that a vessel that far out to sea decided to use 14.300 for a mayday when there more than 300 mls off the mainland they should have hf marine radio,s fitted that would have given them direct contact with many coastal stations and not go through this via ham radio to get info from the coastguard,,,i have heard 14.300 used a few times for mayday calls over the years...good vid !!!
14300 is the international amateur radio em-comm frequerncy hearing maydays there is to be expected. The daily /MM routine traffic does not belong there to be honest. 14300-14303 should be off limits for any other but emergency traffic. This is ITU/IARU definition. Unfortunately too many hams are not aware of it, or give a shit.
also a VHF radio on ch16 would not reach shore on that distance. Th ehorizon is your limit on that band, and in a boat youre very low - so the horizon is not far either.... HF goes across the globe....
think you missed the point i was making,they should have the correct hf radio,s fitted,14.300 is a little hit and miss for a mayday,there are loads of marine hf channels and coastal stations and vessels who handle mayday call,s much more efficiently than this,2.182mhz etc would have been better.
they should blaba.. fact is,professional shortwave shore stations have been closed world wide. often ham radio is the only option left aside from sattelite telephones. And those short distance VHF radios.
Considering W1JSB did the recording and it was KR4OR talking to KG6DVD its entirely possible Hanz can't hear Wendy, especially if his beam is swung around. HF propagation tends to be funny sometimes, sometimes you can't hear everyone, and some can hear you better than others. Just the nature of the hobby. -KN4GEI
yes i have a ship radio but it is only 5 w vhf so will not pick up someone that far out at sea if i was going more than 100 miles out i will take a sat phone with me
PEOPLE are crazy...i think whats important through this comms...is that in the event something happens...true and sad...they would be out of range of help...I think its always BEST TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND RADIO COMMUNICATION....and how they can really * help you in an emergency....true despite what they say to you if it is crazy.....Your on a RADIO system that can stay with you if necessary until help arrives...
holding a general license for ham radio, as well as the maritime LRC and SRC and being familiar with the GMDSS here some thoughts: first - in case of emergency ANY frequency is allowed without license / second leisure vessels being out this far would have a vhf-radio which would communicate to about 30 sm max. and they are obliged to have a means of long distance communication - which would be a maritime HF radio or a satelite phone / third they obviuosly had the QSO on the 14.300 maritime network in the ham band ... from a modified maritime radio or a ham radio - within the maritime radio you have quite strict regulations and a PAN PAN - used in case of danger to life - would not have been appropriate ... it seems to me there was another ship following them ... no hostile activities and far from life threatening .... so being a sailor as well i would have used the maritime net as well giving information ... and getting some ideas - which took place in a very disciplined and professional way ... even the relay to the coast guard was done - EXCELLENT JOB. I always would rely on the ham net in situations prior to immanent danger - in a lot of situations the emmergency will not take place as precautions and preparations will take place. As a last step maritime radio on HF and starting an em-procedure is appropriate and then a direct connection to the coast guard makes sense ... still not much can be done out there ... takes a while until the ships would reach you. ...... besides some incidents the past year (broken mast 300 sm from the Azores heading East / collision of a SY with a cargo ship Asia) showed that the GMDSS is not as reliable as one might think. in the first case the EPIRB triggered did not start any rescue chain ... in the second case it did - but three days later after the SY sunk within 10 min after the collision and the crew was lucky enough to reach sand banks from where they got rescued. ... so - just relax about regulations in case of emergency AND see the ham radio what it is .... a nice and sometimes demanding hobby - which CAN save lives .... and don't judge a maritime situation from a youtube video ;) 73 de OE5TET
Dan, you mentioned KG6DVD being only a Tech, but that callsign may not be accurate. It doesn't even come back to a YL. However, I find a Wendy, KE7DVD, with the same last name and address as Stephen, KG6DRI -- and she's a General. Not that her license class (if any) would have mattered in an emergency, of course, but there you go.
Yeah, it appears that her call may have been misunderstood on the air and thus misstated on the map. But as we both know, that's small potatoes compared to the business at hand!
Should have used commercial HF radio on Marine distress freqs if that far from coast and in distress not ham bands for this kind of comms.Ham bands are for hobby use really and not suited for emergency marine use unless it last ditch attempt to get out to someone.You got to ask the question if vhf was aboard only and out of range of coast why did they go beyond coast with no commercial marine approved hf radio? SAT phones cant be relied on at sea,sounds a bit fishy and they got caught out and had to rely on ham bands.That said the ham guys did well and handled traffic profeesionally on net.
+rpcomms1 On the contrary I think it's a great example of amateur radio being used in a distress situation. GMDSS for one thing hasn't delivered like it was supposed to and I wouldn't feel safe heading out to sea with Just standard HF DSC and satellite equipment. I was a radio officer in the 1990's and when GMDSS came fully online there were a lot of skeptical mariners. Turns out they were right.
im not dissing the Ham guys for use,but missing the point why did they not use commercial approved marine freq's for this kind of situation,it makes me wonder did they try to rely too much on sat phone instead of hf marine hf thats all ? HF Marine radio has improved a lot more since 1990 maybe depends on location in world how good the GMDSS system is and supported around world.
+rpcomms1 I'm thinking it was because there is always a lot of people on 14.3 and all the ham frequencies, so there would probably be a better chance of someone able to receive their signal on amateur frequencies rather than just the marine HF frequencies.
What a crock! Mean too tell me people who sail don't keep a log (list) of emergency contact info on Coast Guard locations when ever their sailing in particular parts of the world? This wasn't even an emergency. This is a women who's paranoid sailing far off at sea knowing damn well either storms, mechanical malfunctions and even pirates are always a threat and she doesn't have coast guards info, but has a SAT Phone. Comical! This was a setup, or a 14.300 accult user setting up a rouse to make this Net to be more mportant than what it is. This was a over dramatized drill, No Doubt A rouse!
+N2RRAny most people I talk to that have boats don't have a clue about how to use the radio for help. all they know is get on channel 16 or 9 of there vhf radios, and that wont do much good far out at sea.so bottom line if you think your life is in danger screw it call for help don't take a chance. she did the right thing. to late to call for help if your dead.
+N2RRAny Lol I've met people who own large boats that don't know ANYTHING about radios and seamingly don't care. Calling on 14.300MHz was a smart move first, its free and it might cut into some rag chewers time but it could save a life and they can always move to a different channel or band. I wouldn't want to have to call on a sat phone RIGHT AWAY because it costs money
+Butter Bean No one ever cares about emergency equipment or precautions unless something bad happens. People always need a wake-up call before any precautions or safety concerns are addressed. That's the way it goes: marginalize until it goes wrong, and THEN take the precautions.
This is an awesome example of Amateur Radio coming to the aid of someone.
Time after time and proven throughout history. Amateur radio operators are heroes without capes and without superpowers.
This was rather exciting. It shows that properly trained amateur radio operators are able to pass emergency traffic with little to no effort. Station for standing by when they needed to allowing the primary stations to communicate with one another with one backup station for relays.
Several years ago I worked in a minute life or death by amateur radio. I live in the mountains of Southern Cal where it snows. A young 4WD driver decided he and two others could make it through a blizzard on a back road just for fun. It didn't work out that way. They got high centered and all they could do was keep the heater running even though it offered minimal Heat. It took 11 hours to get search and rescue on scene and then another 13 hours to get them to a Trauma Center. Since I was working SAR with the fire department at the time the faster response was because I could communicate directly with the Battalion Chief on fire radio. As it turned out those calling for help were on CB radio which only became known to me once fire dispatch telephoned me.
The point is not what I did but rather that proper training is incumbent upon amateur radio operators. Just knowing how to run your radios properly and establishing who, what, where, when, and why if known is important. Knowing not to jump in so you can be the one to help is also important. If the station needing help is already effectively communicating with another station that would be clear and everyone else should standby. So glad this worked out well.
Bob ~ AF6D
A year later this guy's boat "went dead" in the Atlantic and had to be rescued by the USCG. He must have really bad luck
Do you know where the article is? I would love to read more about it.
I check in daily (sometimes several times a day) to the Maritime Mobile Service Net. It's a great bunch of guys doing an outstanding public service. They welcome check ins from all hams (General class and above) regardless if they are maritime mobile or not. Many times an inland ham will hear a maritime mobile no one else will hear, and relay to net control. If you're on 20 meters, you ought to check in sometime. (And, oh by the way, the guy in California in the first minute of the video is Gary, WB6UQA, who was my FIRST ham radio contact 38 years ago (on 2 meter simplex).
73 de AJ5F Dave.
I agree with Dave, and to Rich, GMDSS is great if your on a large fishing boat or greater displacement, but to spend $5000 on a GMDSS system for a 40 foot sail boat would be for really well stocked folks.
@@dalenulik4564for a full suite, it's more like $30k, if going with Furuno or JRC
One time I was mobile in Arizona doing relay for a vessel in the Sea of Cortez.
I've watched this video more times than I can count and it always fascinates me to hear how they work together and coordinate all these efforts to keep the Elusive safe until Coast Guard can get close by. Well done to all involved. My hat's off to you all! -KI7YDM
This is a wonderful video. I do my best to encourage people to come in to ham radio on my RUclips channel and help a lot of people to understand the things that we do. I’d like to use part of this video to explain the importance of hams during times of emergencies like this. This is an incredible recording. Talk about being at the right place at the right time.
And it can help so many people just by hearing it. I’ll make sure and give credit to your channel as well as a link to it in the description section.
Thank you for this amazing work. It’s what I think is the gold medal of what ham radio operators can do.
Warm Regards,
Larry
de K7HN
What can I say ??
GMDSS
DSC, Sat C, E-pirb.
Coast Station controls working.
Good job by those amateurs.
I shared this with Burt Fisher, K1OIK whoo seemingly doesn't think Ham Radio can be relied on in an emergency. THAT WOULD BE NEWS to Wendy & the crew of the Elusive :) lol
Isn't he the guy who thinks all Ham operators are "fat" and have no useful information to send that requires radio?
rob b he is what he eats lol
I’ve been on his channel and saw him talking crap to a Cber like wtf?! His a joke.
W7ZAR
@@asyncawaited the problem is, that a great majority of public visible wannabes are just that - running around in high vis jackets, badges and plenty of self importance , and they destroy the public image of amateur radio as an emergency service tool in america. So much so, that the worst critics come from the inside these days. (usually contester and award clickers)
Must be a domestic thing - i am from europe, i dont see it here. But our army know where to find us if we are needed.
I work with the german maritime radio service "intermar" (which stayed on 14313 after the americans have fled the frequency to occupy 300 khz)
we had emergencies too, like broken masts on the middle of atlantic i.e. - interfacing between coast guard and the boat, and her family
was evidently critical and only possible because of amateur radio. Since there are no official coastal stations in service anymore beyong rach of channel 16
that a privat boat could reach. (Satphones are not the solution to everything) Few private skippers have GMDSS or satphones - and both systems are not perfect.
i.e. What do you call with those things? coastguard, right? - then comes a boat to tow you out - then you go bankcrupt. You didnt think the coastguards do that for free?
There are many emergencies that can be dealt with between private individuals with CG as backup on a hotkey from a landbased-amateur net control.
In my example, the broken mast ment propulsion was gone, which means food and water deplete faster than they would reach land - no cause for offical "mayday" because no immediate threat to life. But enough cause for distress - they juryrigged an emergency sail - and moved on with just 3 knots - everyday contact was made and status on supplies and boat condition verified. All the time CG on hotkey, and i believe at some point i was seeking contact to american netcontrols from 300khz (i wish there was more cooperation ongoing - would be good to have names on a hotlist to contact in such a case, cause americans might have been had more reliable contact)
our amateur radio service offers practical advise from skipper to skipper - medical assistance from real doctors to crew - a connection to coast guard if need be - connection to family back home - relaying and connection to other boats in the area for help or just comfort. (nearby does not mean VHF close)
Doing that with stuff like GMDSS is technically impossible, adding last minute information or having a "dialog" is hard - and emergencies on small yachts have usually not much time at their hands. Grabbing a mike, and reporting in cleartext what is happening right now - sometimes trumps a simple beacon with coordinates.
In addition, ham radio gives you access to emails, weatherreports , news (pactor, winlink) - and not least better contact to other members in the community than a "satphone" or gmdss.
Cant hurt to have all that too, but not everyone boating is rockefeller - also sailboats also have only limited power supplies. (its not like there is fuel to run a ships diesel all the time - main propulsion is wind) Too much stuff running permanently in the background is not a good idea on a sailboat, battery is needed for the fridge haha
In any case, the coast guards we were dealing with - appreciate our work - also when amateurs think we should rather be "operating ft8" and do nothing else with the radios.
great job by these operators. glad to see the good work
KG7MRB
You learn something new everyday. I know there areas of the world with pirate activity but I never figured to hear about pirates in the Pacific.
If you've ever shunned the idea of buddy-boating, this sad news may cause you to reassess your attitude. Steve and Wendy Bott and their son Allen were safely transferred to the San Diego-based Scarlett O'Hara shortly before sunset Saturday after their Ventura-based J/44 Elusive began sinking beneath them, roughly 500 miles north of Auckland. These boats and roughly 10 others had been buddy-boating between New Zealand and Fiji. The incident occurred during a regular session of the Pacific Seafarer's net, whose net controllers jumped into action coordinating communications with nearby vessels and emergency agencies. Elusive's EPIRB was activated, which brought U.S. SAR resources into play also.
At this writing, the Bott family is headed north to Fiji aboard Scarlett O'Hara digesting the impact of the sudden tragedy. Although Elusive was insured, the family lost virtually everything they owned, as the 44-ft sloop was their home.
Amazingly done guys!
I have a large HF eam and a kilowatt. Sometimes I help relay information on 14.300 but never heard a mayday call.
Ham radio works when everything else fails. Having an HF capable radio and antennas is a very wise decision.
I don't get the impression that anybody is suggesting that people equip their vessels with ONLY ham radio. But there's nothing wrong with having an amateur station as a back-up. People have died because they relied too much on modern technology, and that's a bad bet when you're, say, a hiker or motorist with only a cell phone in a valley surrounded by mountains. A cheap, simple HF radio with a wire antenna could save your life when a cell phone can't even reach a tower.
Indeed. When doing Amateur Radio events for outdoor sports in Upstate NY our repeaters and radios even on simplex just crushed cellular. We literally through up a wire antenna for 2 meters made out of 450ohm latter wire and pumped 10watts into it and had coverage across the entire south parts of the county even in a bad spot. A cellphone signal would be weak and the constant attempts to connect would drain the battery.....not so with a car battery hooked to a HAM radio! Can't beat it!
+Rich No one was suggesting to equip their vessels with ham radio only.
Obviously, you don't know much about amateur radio.
I think he is trying to push his own services. He may be a non-native English speaker which may be confusing for him. Idk why he's so hot and bothered by people suggesting the use of an HF radio as a BACKUP, no one technology is 100% reliable so it pays (in human life) to plan accordingly.
+nateo200 I dont knowwhat he is trying to push. He obviously knows nothing or very little about ham radio. Amateur radio requires no infrastructure like Internet, satellites, microwave links, telephone lines, repeaters etc. Of course it would not replace marine radio or any other modern communication devices. Unfortunately sometime modern means of communication fail due to power outages, man-made and natural disasters. Ham radio always works and it has been proven numerous times.
Ham radio is great to have as a backup. Besides that it's a lot of fun. Imagine being in the open ocean, hundreds of miles away from civilization and being able to talk to other hams from all over the world. I have a 100 Watt mobile HF radio in my car. I often talk to European, South American, Australian stations on my drive to or from work. This is so much fun. I love this hobby!
That was quite a sketchy situation given the proximity to any land based help. Even a jet from California or Hawaii would take a couple hours to get there. Would the government task a satellite resource to track a pirate?
im confused how this turned from an alleged "pirate" situation to their boating sinking from "unknown causes".
How could you hear her that well?
i find it strange that a vessel that far out to sea decided to use 14.300 for a mayday when there more than 300 mls off the mainland they should have hf marine radio,s fitted that would have given them direct contact with many coastal stations and not go through this via ham radio to get info from the coastguard,,,i have heard 14.300 used a few times for mayday calls over the years...good vid !!!
14300 is the international amateur radio em-comm frequerncy
hearing maydays there is to be expected.
The daily /MM routine traffic does not belong there to be honest. 14300-14303 should be off limits for any other but emergency traffic.
This is ITU/IARU definition. Unfortunately too many hams are not aware of it, or give a shit.
They didn't want to use their marine radio because they were afraid the vessel following them would be monitoring it.
also a VHF radio on ch16 would not reach shore on that distance.
Th ehorizon is your limit on that band, and in a boat youre very low - so the horizon is not far either....
HF goes across the globe....
think you missed the point i was making,they should have the correct hf radio,s fitted,14.300 is a little hit and miss for a mayday,there are loads of marine hf channels and coastal stations and vessels who handle mayday call,s much more efficiently than this,2.182mhz etc would have been better.
they should blaba..
fact is,professional shortwave shore stations have been closed world wide.
often ham radio is the only option left aside from sattelite telephones.
And those short distance VHF radios.
Man, I check into that net all the time. May be I should listen to the frequency more often when the net isn't active.
73 from baghdad de Yi1hxh
I couldn't hear KG6DVD very well but it's still a very a good video! -KG7FLL
Considering W1JSB did the recording and it was KR4OR talking to KG6DVD its entirely possible Hanz can't hear Wendy, especially if his beam is swung around. HF propagation tends to be funny sometimes, sometimes you can't hear everyone, and some can hear you better than others. Just the nature of the hobby. -KN4GEI
An emergency that wasn't one - got it.
Great upload! KJ4JAE, 73s.
So what did the following vessel turn out to be? Pirates? Just someone tagging along for ease of navigation?
What ever became of the sailing vessel? Were there any photos that were taken of the unknown vessel?
I listen in on 14.300 daily and try to check in once a day.
Do you often hear activity @ 14.3 ?
philnyc i hear the net frequently.. from my position in northern europe :)
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Imagine the whole time it was just someone who didn't speak english and only followed trying to get help lmao
thanks so much for the video
I heard this too. Gotta look for a recording stored somewhere. Lol.
Nice work guys 💖
yes i have a ship radio but it is only 5 w vhf so will not pick up someone that far out at sea if i was going more than 100 miles out i will take a sat phone with me
+keith rice I'd get an HF rig....10-15watts, heck even 5watts could save a life on 20 or 40 meters.
yes it can 10 to 15 watts 20 to 40 meters but not vhf thats only 2 watts if your 500 miles out at sea
I have heard they are not always reliable.
Nice catch!
at about 17:45 they figure out they have a satellite phone on board, sheesh. the MM was completely unneeded.
Nice Work!!
AW, this was easy...I would have zeroed in on their coordinates...
...and then call in an airstrike. PROBLEM SOLVED. :-)
PEOPLE are crazy...i think whats important through this comms...is that in the event something happens...true and sad...they would be out of range of help...I think its always BEST TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND RADIO COMMUNICATION....and how they can really * help you in an emergency....true despite what they say to you if it is crazy.....Your on a RADIO system that can stay with you if necessary until help arrives...
on what radio and antennae setup were you able to capture this?
During an emergency no one needs a license to talk on ham
Good recording, KM4YSM
Impressive! What was the outcome? Was the cartel following them?
from what i heard at 1:24 there was a female very soft in the noise but im wearing headphones when i watched this so that my be why
I don't understand why the coast guard isn't communicating with the ship. Why does the ship have to reply on ham radio operators?
Bcoz the USCG don't use ham frequencies
holding a general license for ham radio, as well as the maritime LRC and SRC and being familiar with the GMDSS here some thoughts: first - in case of emergency ANY frequency is allowed without license / second leisure vessels being out this far would have a vhf-radio which would communicate to about 30 sm max. and they are obliged to have a means of long distance communication - which would be a maritime HF radio or a satelite phone / third they obviuosly had the QSO on the 14.300 maritime network in the ham band ... from a modified maritime radio or a ham radio - within the maritime radio you have quite strict regulations and a PAN PAN - used in case of danger to life - would not have been appropriate ... it seems to me there was another ship following them ... no hostile activities and far from life threatening .... so being a sailor as well i would have used the maritime net as well giving information ... and getting some ideas - which took place in a very disciplined and professional way ... even the relay to the coast guard was done - EXCELLENT JOB. I always would rely on the ham net in situations prior to immanent danger - in a lot of situations the emmergency will not take place as precautions and preparations will take place. As a last step maritime radio on HF and starting an em-procedure is appropriate and then a direct connection to the coast guard makes sense ... still not much can be done out there ... takes a while until the ships would reach you. ...... besides some incidents the past year (broken mast 300 sm from the Azores heading East / collision of a SY with a cargo ship Asia) showed that the GMDSS is not as reliable as one might think. in the first case the EPIRB triggered did not start any rescue chain ... in the second case it did - but three days later after the SY sunk within 10 min after the collision and the crew was lucky enough to reach sand banks from where they got rescued. ... so - just relax about regulations in case of emergency AND see the ham radio what it is .... a nice and sometimes demanding hobby - which CAN save lives .... and don't judge a maritime situation from a youtube video ;) 73 de OE5TET
Gerald Landl ij
nice one OH3BPY
Too bad W1JSB didn't turn down his other radios during the recording.
That was bad ass
Did you start playing Alias and Tarsier around 36 minutes?!
Actually, yes! I did not realize that was in the recording until your comment here. I'm surprised someone noticed that and knew who it was.
Small world haha. Good times, great album!
@@persikyle5911 Totally. The album inspired a lot of creativity. I was saddened greatly to find out that Alias had passed away.
good job boys
Wow
HAM is wonderful but not worth a damn when you immediately need armament
I'd never sail the seas without firearms on board!
my callsign. ..KF7AHO. ..
Dan, you mentioned KG6DVD being only a Tech, but that callsign may not be accurate. It doesn't even come back to a YL. However, I find a Wendy, KE7DVD, with the same last name and address as Stephen, KG6DRI -- and she's a General. Not that her license class (if any) would have mattered in an emergency, of course, but there you go.
Ahh...ok...
Yeah, it appears that her call may have been misunderstood on the air and thus misstated on the map. But as we both know, that's small potatoes compared to the business at hand!
Dan Kono w
✌️😎👍 KG7QIS
It's the Empire! They're looking for the rebels!
Should have used commercial HF radio on Marine distress freqs if that far from coast and in distress not ham bands for this kind of comms.Ham bands are for hobby use really and not suited for emergency marine use unless it last ditch attempt to get out to someone.You got to ask the question if vhf was aboard only and out of range of coast why did they go beyond coast with no commercial marine approved hf radio? SAT phones cant be relied on at sea,sounds a bit fishy and they got caught out and had to rely on ham bands.That said the ham guys did well and handled traffic profeesionally on net.
+rpcomms1 On the contrary I think it's a great example of amateur radio being used in a distress situation. GMDSS for one thing hasn't delivered like it was supposed to and I wouldn't feel safe heading out to sea with Just standard HF DSC and satellite equipment. I was a radio officer in the 1990's and when GMDSS came fully online there were a lot of skeptical mariners. Turns out they were right.
im not dissing the Ham guys for use,but missing the point why did they not use commercial approved marine freq's for this kind of situation,it makes me wonder did they try to rely too much on sat phone instead of hf marine hf thats all
? HF Marine radio has improved a lot more since 1990 maybe depends on location in world how good the GMDSS system is and supported around world.
+rpcomms1 I'm thinking it was because there is always a lot of people on 14.3 and all the ham frequencies, so there would probably be a better chance of someone able to receive their signal on amateur frequencies rather than just the marine HF frequencies.
im not commenting any more on this subject but thanks for your input cheers
What a crock!
Mean too tell me people who sail don't keep a log (list) of emergency contact info on Coast Guard locations when ever their sailing in particular parts of the world? This wasn't even an emergency. This is a women who's paranoid sailing far off at sea knowing damn well either storms, mechanical malfunctions and even pirates are always a threat and she doesn't have coast guards info, but has a SAT Phone. Comical!
This was a setup, or a 14.300 accult user setting up a rouse to make this Net to be more mportant than what it is. This was a over dramatized drill, No Doubt A rouse!
+N2RRAny most people I talk to that have boats don't have a clue about how to use the radio for help. all they know is get on channel 16 or 9 of there vhf radios, and that wont do much good far out at sea.so bottom line if you think your life is in danger screw it call for help don't take a chance. she did the right thing. to late to call for help if your dead.
+N2RRAny Lol I've met people who own large boats that don't know ANYTHING about radios and seamingly don't care. Calling on 14.300MHz was a smart move first, its free and it might cut into some rag chewers time but it could save a life and they can always move to a different channel or band. I wouldn't want to have to call on a sat phone RIGHT AWAY because it costs money
+Butter Bean No one ever cares about emergency equipment or precautions unless something bad happens. People ALWAYS need a wake-up call.
+Butter Bean No one ever cares about emergency equipment or precautions unless something bad happens. People always need a wake-up call before any precautions or safety concerns are addressed. That's the way it goes: marginalize until it goes wrong, and THEN take the precautions.
@N2RRAny This was not a drill. The Elusive sank.