Colorist chiming in here - judging the charts by eye, if we're talking about small changes, doesn't tell much as human eyes can and will adapt to a surprising degree. To add on to what Joey said about CRI's limitations, CRI is centered around the Standard Human Observer. This means those 8 patches may look great for a human under a high CRI light, but not to a camera. SSI is a better metric as it takes into account the whole visible spectrum (or 375nm - 675nm to be precise) and as such gives a better representation for both human and camera observers. Though SSI is an option only if we're talking about daylight and tungsten lights as it's comparing a given light source to those two standard illuminants. I'd also like to bring attention to Aputure's new STORM series lights that are the first LED video lights to incorporate a UV emitter. One might wonder why we need a UV emitter if we, and ideally cameras don't see UV? Fluorescence. UV light, that we find in daylight, upon reflecting from certain materials, changes it's wavelength to blue or violet that we can see. This has the effect of making something appear bluer or whiter (think super white laundry detergent). Also, thanks for making this channel - love watching it!
This feels so close to the philosophical questions of “What is color” and the idea of “do we all actually see color ‘the same’ or not”. Now with all these LED lights in my home, I’m thinking about what colors I may be missing out on!!
I LOVE seeing things that I use in miniature painting being shown outside of that realm. Been using that RG lamp since it released and I love it. It replaced my Halo light setup and I just can't paint without it now.
Also, Thank you! I see it in the background. My wife thought I was dying because I could not breathe! You guys have a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holidays!
Thanks, guys, this is so useful. And a bit scary, since we’re about to replace the lights in the portrait studio. Definitely need to do some research, although almost anything will be better than the florescent lights we used for years! All the best for the holidays to everyone, and thanks for an amazing year!
I absolutely LOVE my Soraa light bulbs. They’re 3-5 times more than typical Amazon bulbs. I got them for my wall art but then got them for many other fixtures because every color looks so…rich. If I was going to do painting, I’d find a fixture that is compatible with the available bulbs and go from there. Possibly end up being cheaper than the $250 unit show here.
I've had the three light version of the cheaper light for a little over a month now, it replaced a far less articulate architect's light. I can confirm its a godsend for miniature painting and model building.
I know there are absolute applications where those 7 points of CRI are going to be crucial. But for stuff that I do, those 7 points aren't worth $200 extra dollars to me. Again, I'm not saying what anyone else should do, but personally, that's not that big of a difference.
My wife sand I argue back and forth about the sunlight LED's and incandescent bulbs. It is good to know that she is right that incandescent light are more accurate. I know that it is also because we see colors differently (the blue look of the eclipse made that clear.) Now I know I need a spectrometer
Colorist chiming in here - judging the charts by eye, if we're talking about small changes, doesn't tell much as human eyes can and will adapt to a surprising degree.
To add on to what Joey said about CRI's limitations, CRI is centered around the Standard Human Observer. This means those 8 patches may look great for a human under a high CRI light, but not to a camera. SSI is a better metric as it takes into account the whole visible spectrum (or 375nm - 675nm to be precise) and as such gives a better representation for both human and camera observers. Though SSI is an option only if we're talking about daylight and tungsten lights as it's comparing a given light source to those two standard illuminants.
I'd also like to bring attention to Aputure's new STORM series lights that are the first LED video lights to incorporate a UV emitter. One might wonder why we need a UV emitter if we, and ideally cameras don't see UV?
Fluorescence. UV light, that we find in daylight, upon reflecting from certain materials, changes it's wavelength to blue or violet that we can see. This has the effect of making something appear bluer or whiter (think super white laundry detergent).
Also, thanks for making this channel - love watching it!
Thanks for the extra insight!!
This feels so close to the philosophical questions of “What is color” and the idea of “do we all actually see color ‘the same’ or not”. Now with all these LED lights in my home, I’m thinking about what colors I may be missing out on!!
Thanx you, two. Look forward to more Norm/Joey Collabs. 💙🌻🌟🌲🌟🌻💙
I LOVE seeing things that I use in miniature painting being shown outside of that realm. Been using that RG lamp since it released and I love it. It replaced my Halo light setup and I just can't paint without it now.
Also, Thank you! I see it in the background. My wife thought I was dying because I could not breathe! You guys have a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holidays!
Thanks, guys, this is so useful. And a bit scary, since we’re about to replace the lights in the portrait studio. Definitely need to do some research, although almost anything will be better than the florescent lights we used for years! All the best for the holidays to everyone, and thanks for an amazing year!
Interesting results! Would be good to also see a comparison to the photo light that Adam uses on the gooseneck.
I absolutely LOVE my Soraa light bulbs. They’re 3-5 times more than typical Amazon bulbs. I got them for my wall art but then got them for many other fixtures because every color looks so…rich. If I was going to do painting, I’d find a fixture that is compatible with the available bulbs and go from there. Possibly end up being cheaper than the $250 unit show here.
fascinating! thanks for going into such much detail about this subject...
I've had the three light version of the cheaper light for a little over a month now, it replaced a far less articulate architect's light. I can confirm its a godsend for miniature painting and model building.
I use 2 of those 45$ lamps (for minis painting) this makes me pretty happy with my purchase!
I know there are absolute applications where those 7 points of CRI are going to be crucial. But for stuff that I do, those 7 points aren't worth $200 extra dollars to me. Again, I'm not saying what anyone else should do, but personally, that's not that big of a difference.
My wife sand I argue back and forth about the sunlight LED's and incandescent bulbs. It is good to know that she is right that incandescent light are more accurate. I know that it is also because we see colors differently (the blue look of the eclipse made that clear.) Now I know I need a spectrometer
Redgrass will be kickstarting a cheaper version of the R9 in January with only one light instead of 2 but it will be more portable.
Ooooooh!
6:20 "...it can easily become a dark path..." Pun intended.