Depends on the length of the build. Longer builds, the more helps are going to be more beneficial. You get either .5% or the extra time, whichever is more.
Just to add based on the examples in this video, anything under approximately 3 days, the more time is better. Anything over 3 days, more helps is better.
The math is not correct that is only correct for shorter builds once you hit the 0.5% the time off is not used at all it is just number of helps. I assume this is why the default assignment the game does is to prioritize number of helps so late in game which is when you get these stat ups anyway very little build or research is going to benefit from this. Helped heals though will quite a bit and it is a good idea there.
I don't understand you're guys arguments for pro more help for longer builds? He literally just mathed the total time saved with all the helps, vs total time saved with less helps that give more time each. Total time saved is total time saved, doesn't matter how long the build takes. Or am I missing something? Which is very possible 😂 running on 3 hours sleep haha
@CaptainCoolpants101 let Z=time remaining of build. Time deducted per help = Z x 0.5% = 29.3 minutes. 29.3/0.5%=5860 minutes. When Z is greater than 5860 min (4 days 1 hr 40 min), it will use the percentage instead of the fixed time deduction.
I figured this out a while ago, but there are some caviats, as others have mentioned. You get either the accumulation of help of your survivors+ allaince tech, OR .5% PER help. Im currently at roughly 15hrs of help with 3 of my purple heros and 27 helps. To find out when the 30 helps of Gold survivors .5% is greater, you take those 15 hours and multiply by 6.6666. Here is why. .5% x 30 is 15%. 100/15 is 6.666 Take the 15 hrs, x 6.6 = 99.999 Lets say 100 hours. 100 hrs = 4 days and 4 hours In conclusion, anything over 4 days and 4 hours is more beneficial to use gold heros , in my case BUT!!! DURING war time, use the purple heros!! You can heal in 7 hour batches easily! If 3veruone is on, you can heal 14 hours!
You need to calculate the cut off point, where the 0.5% and the extra time meet. Let's define T: time that they are equal H: total extra time with purples (in minutes) X2: number of helpers with purples X1: number of helpers with all gold then 0.005 * X1 * T = H * X2 so T = (H * X2)/(0.005 * X1) so then T= 0.1389 * H * X2 / X1 (in days) a little over 4 days for me. So if the build is over 5 days, I change to all gold. For your example, your time is 3 days and 15 hours. if you use purple survivors for anything over 4 days, you are losing 3(your helper difference) times 0.5% of the total time.
This was a dramatic improvement for my base. Quick dispatch is terrible in this case. The game should already know who will give you the most help time.
Hey Joe, I was wondering if you could do a video of what gear you'd prioritise to push to mythic after you get two guns! Happy holidays and keep up the great work!
Great question! 2 avenues you can go.. if you are F2P or low pay go for a 3rd gun. You can always break them down later. If you are trying to get stronger faster go data chip on your top hero. It boosts attack and defense
You have to add in the time save for the 3 Helps you loose, too. So full Gold saves 9 hours and mixed purple saves 14 hours. That means at what point are 3 Helps worth more than 5 hours? According to my math, if a Research/Building takes more than 14 Days, full gold is about equal to mixed. 14 Days = 336h; 0.5% of 336h = 1.68h; 1.68h * 3 = 5.04h So yeah, if it takes more than 14 days you'll want to go with full Gold Survivors.
Pase de tener 4 minutos con 48 segundos y 28 ayudas, a tener 14 minutos con 24 segundos t 25 ayudas. ¡Es una bestialidad lo que aumento! Muchas gracias por ese tip.
For any build over 2 days, you will want the gold with extra help. If your build is 3 days (4320 min), then each help will be (4320 x 0.5%)=21.6 minutes 14.4/0.5%=2880 min (48 hrs), below that use purple for the set time deduction, above that use gold for the percentage time deduction
what I did is to get max help first with the golden one, press help on constructions or researches and swap back to purple lawyers, you got them both max help and max help time. This trick works well on anything require less than 3 days, with longer one max help from golden lawyers do it all, don't need to swap.
That’s the right way to go about it. The math on the video is wrong because if you have a big building/research it also go by a percentage of the time to finish
Time reducing of help has 1 of 2 effects: 0,5% of the remaining time, or depend on time described as your video. If you build a long duration building, more help still better. 0,5%of time*number of help
Going by what the help button does, the greater of 0.5% of your build vs number of minutes from survivors, a 4 day build would be around 28 minutes per help button so your 29.3min boost would be better but at 5 days, the 0.5% is now 36min with each help so the number of helps would be better to maximize the results vs the time bonus for different lawyers.
@@Lastwartipsandtricks want you to know following your guidance i spent 4 days worth of $18, 1 $20 and had 900 tickets so 1 $49 and i got the skin on our last day! Thank you
This is Just Something Awesome to learn. Currently in level 26 from server 759.
So will make use of this tip to the advantage. Thank You
@@vsahu16 amazing!
Use the all gold when starting the build/tech, then don't ask for help and switch to the purples. Best of both worlds :)
Good advice! Have you tested it? Does it lock when you start?
Depends on the length of the build. Longer builds, the more helps are going to be more beneficial. You get either .5% or the extra time, whichever is more.
The math maths on the video. Check it out
Just to add based on the examples in this video, anything under approximately 3 days, the more time is better. Anything over 3 days, more helps is better.
The math is not correct that is only correct for shorter builds once you hit the 0.5% the time off is not used at all it is just number of helps. I assume this is why the default assignment the game does is to prioritize number of helps so late in game which is when you get these stat ups anyway very little build or research is going to benefit from this. Helped heals though will quite a bit and it is a good idea there.
I don't understand you're guys arguments for pro more help for longer builds? He literally just mathed the total time saved with all the helps, vs total time saved with less helps that give more time each. Total time saved is total time saved, doesn't matter how long the build takes. Or am I missing something? Which is very possible 😂 running on 3 hours sleep haha
@CaptainCoolpants101 let Z=time remaining of build. Time deducted per help = Z x 0.5% = 29.3 minutes. 29.3/0.5%=5860 minutes. When Z is greater than 5860 min (4 days 1 hr 40 min), it will use the percentage instead of the fixed time deduction.
I figured this out a while ago, but there are some caviats, as others have mentioned.
You get either the accumulation of help of your survivors+ allaince tech, OR .5% PER help.
Im currently at roughly 15hrs of help with 3 of my purple heros and 27 helps. To find out when the 30 helps of Gold survivors .5% is greater, you take those 15 hours and multiply by 6.6666. Here is why.
.5% x 30 is 15%.
100/15 is 6.666
Take the 15 hrs, x 6.6 = 99.999
Lets say 100 hours. 100 hrs = 4 days and 4 hours
In conclusion, anything over 4 days and 4 hours is more beneficial to use gold heros , in my case
BUT!!! DURING war time, use the purple heros!! You can heal in 7 hour batches easily! If 3veruone is on, you can heal 14 hours!
Honestly, i Watch all of your videos and helped me alot but this videoooo its a game changer thank you
You are my hero!
You need to calculate the cut off point, where the 0.5% and the extra time meet.
Let's define
T: time that they are equal
H: total extra time with purples (in minutes)
X2: number of helpers with purples
X1: number of helpers with all gold
then
0.005 * X1 * T = H * X2
so
T = (H * X2)/(0.005 * X1)
so then
T= 0.1389 * H * X2 / X1 (in days)
a little over 4 days for me. So if the build is over 5 days, I change to all gold.
For your example, your time is 3 days and 15 hours. if you use purple survivors for anything over 4 days, you are losing 3(your helper difference) times 0.5% of the total time.
This was a dramatic improvement for my base. Quick dispatch is terrible in this case. The game should already know who will give you the most help time.
@@tdunn1907 agreed
Thanks brother VERY helpful just about to start season 1 shortly
Hey Joe, I was wondering if you could do a video of what gear you'd prioritise to push to mythic after you get two guns! Happy holidays and keep up the great work!
Great question! 2 avenues you can go.. if you are F2P or low pay go for a 3rd gun. You can always break them down later. If you are trying to get stronger faster go data chip on your top hero. It boosts attack and defense
@@Lastwartipsandtricks Thanks for the swift reply, I will write that down. As I currently thinking of going for two radars!
Love it
This is a great video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
On longer builds it's % that matters. So number of helps is more important.
You have to add in the time save for the 3 Helps you loose, too. So full Gold saves 9 hours and mixed purple saves 14 hours. That means at what point are 3 Helps worth more than 5 hours? According to my math, if a Research/Building takes more than 14 Days, full gold is about equal to mixed. 14 Days = 336h; 0.5% of 336h = 1.68h; 1.68h * 3 = 5.04h So yeah, if it takes more than 14 days you'll want to go with full Gold Survivors.
I personally disagree. But the math is in the video. I could be wrong 🤷♂️
Pase de tener 4 minutos con 48 segundos y 28 ayudas, a tener 14 minutos con 24 segundos t 25 ayudas. ¡Es una bestialidad lo que aumento! Muchas gracias por ese tip.
That’s crazy! You really got the most out of it!
For any build over 2 days, you will want the gold with extra help.
If your build is 3 days (4320 min), then each help will be (4320 x 0.5%)=21.6 minutes
14.4/0.5%=2880 min (48 hrs), below that use purple for the set time deduction, above that use gold for the percentage time deduction
what I did is to get max help first with the golden one, press help on constructions or researches and swap back to purple lawyers, you got them both max help and max help time. This trick works well on anything require less than 3 days, with longer one max help from golden lawyers do it all, don't need to swap.
interesting
That’s the right way to go about it. The math on the video is wrong because if you have a big building/research it also go by a percentage of the time to finish
Also alliance tech-great helper
After watching this video i was convinced i had only 24% battery life left
😂😂😂
Thats with all of it .Its actually old been doing this with other.buildings as well.
It’s because they have higher stars I believe
The game is prioritizing gold over purple and # of helps over minutes.
Most survivors only have 1 stat, the lawyers happen to have 2 separate skills.
Time reducing of help has 1 of 2 effects: 0,5% of the remaining time, or depend on time described as your video. If you build a long duration building, more help still better. 0,5%of time*number of help
Interesting I tested the video multiple times and it worked for me. Thank you though. I am sharing with my team to see if they have different results.
I matched it out on my survivors... anything over 6 days the extra gold survivor helps are better
Going by what the help button does, the greater of 0.5% of your build vs number of minutes from survivors, a 4 day build would be around 28 minutes per help button so your 29.3min boost would be better but at 5 days, the 0.5% is now 36min with each help so the number of helps would be better to maximize the results vs the time bonus for different lawyers.
I only have 4 people .. 🤣
You're removing zero star golds and replacing them with 3 star purples. You failed to mention that part.
Nope. Just saying do the math. Don’t assume gold is better
That’s the point of the video…
Quick dispatch won’t do that
Looking forward to trying to get the new icy wyrm with you! #915 only pay for the heroes really
It will likely be available after you finish season 2
@@Lastwartipsandtricks want you to know following your guidance i spent 4 days worth of $18, 1 $20 and had 900 tickets so 1 $49 and i got the skin on our last day! Thank you