@Miss Take Yes you're Miss take - He was very polite when he said that and again 100% correct. It's that fire breathing dragon that wouldn't let him speak.. What a vulture.
He's not looking for investment. He wanted exposure - which he got. That product is genius and is now being used by call centres. That dude is easily as smart if not smarter than every dragon sat there.
Word. Coming on this show to gain exposure for his brand was even smarter than his idea. Can't tell if the dragons clocked or just thought he didn't know how to value a company.
Yes, and the dragons being so rude to him makes it even better. People rush to clips like this because of the drama. I was curious enough to look the app up - no use to me as I'm in Canada, but great concept.
I work in a call centre and what hes saying is actually right, under busy periods you cant give callbacks as it takes you offline and outbound to give that call back, there is no computer that calls them back.
ek2660 Yes but that is taking them from on an inbound line to an outbound one hence if 10 agents have these outbound calls come through, the inbound queue swells, its basic
Ahmed has made millions since and I think he was right to walk out as Hilary Duvey was so rude whilst interrupting him during his pitch, contestants only have 2 to minutes to pitch before the dragons can start asking questions, Hilary didn't even give it 30 seconds lol
The Comments are just hilarious defending the guy not knowing that he willingly came to the show looking for free promotion of his product to people who watch the show and not looking for an investment ,that's why he had this crazy evaluation.
Scott Chegg I do like him but I think Hilary was right to tell him to shut up; he kept interrupting and was already warned about not listening to the dragons.
@Scott Chegg The BBC only want to increase viewers and the more drama the better for the BBC. The Dragons did not sign up to assist a plug. Neither should he interrupt a potential investor when they are speaking giving her every right to tell him to shut up. He might of learnt something valuable for a person he was seeking both money and advise from. Its nothing to do with wealth, its basic manners but suggesting wealth is a factor, when everyone involved is wealthy, shows your bias.
He's not in charge, she is. She's trying to get the answers she needs to make a decision, he's trying to control the conversation and ignore what she's trying to get to.
@@remchaill9898 No, it's not about who is in charge and who is not. He's not giving her the answer she wants to hear, i.e. confirming her presumptions, so she is cutting him off trying to get him to change his answer to what she wants to hear. If you ask someone a question, then you should be willing to hear the answer, regardless of your "position". She was rude and childish.
They usually accuse people of being vague, this guy was trying to give very detailed answers and they treated him like dirt, especially that one in the blue, she vile.
his valuation was outrageous... it's like me sayin' "i gonna produce smartphones and the market size (shared mostly between apple and samsung) is this many billions, therefore i value my company at this many millions" would be absolutely crazy as im sure youll agree!
His product/service is pretty much worthless. The broad recognized that fact right away so she called him on it. He tried to bullshit his way around it so she shut him down. Good on her. He's a sleazy con
angelfirepunk1 Hilary Lorraine Devey CBE (born 10 March 1957) is an English businesswoman, television personality and entrepreneur, best known for her two-year role on BBC Two programme Dragons' Den until she left to present the Channel 4 series The Intern. She’s worth millions.
Nah the smartest guy was the guy with an egg cooker. Once he forgot to put an egg in, then it didn't work 2 times, didn't sell anything and walked away with investment by two dragons
I like that guy, he’s smart and the dragons didn’t know how to respond to him answering questions in depth, he didn’t go there for an investment in my idea, he went there for exposure and got it..
The dragons: You should always be prepared when you come into the den. Make sure you know your stuff. Also the dragons: Why are you giving me such long answers with so many facts in them?
Her problem is she was arrogant and she basically wanted to tell him he was wrong, without even giving him a chance to explain why SHE was actually wrong (which she was). Her attitude screwed this guy.
Yeah, thats how the world works. When you're asking for £150,000 for nothing in return, (on a TV show remember) you need to be able to take a grilling. They are called Dragons for a reason, and it is their "Den".
@@oliversoar7665 It's not for "nothing in return", it's not a gift, it's not a charity, it's an equal bussiness arrangement. They have no right to be that rude.
I love how he was only willing to offer the Dragons 1%. Totally cut their egos to ribbons. He knew with that opening shot he would probably blow any chance of a deal but I doubt he ever wanted any of the Dragons money, the exposure was worth much more.
Exactly, and he was very intelligent about it. I can imagine the company will blow up as a result, and he doesn't have to worry about entertaining any of these wankers either, as clearly none of them had anything to offer.
@@wewlad-n1g the dragons are all so old they probably don't know what aps are. Other than Jones. Banatyne is so old be probably thinks software mens clothes made of cotton.
@@nifralo2752 Banatyne is a typical example of how the vast majority of wealthy people born pre 1980 don't deserve the wealth they have, and only got to where they are due to lack of competition at the time. In other words, he's a fucking moron who got a boomer boost through life.
David Mellish I think you’ll find it you watch it back she was the one that started interrupting him which is why he said ‘thank you for almost listening’ and which is why he started to also interrupt her, if anyone was rude it was her, she asked him a question and when he began to answer it she started talking over him, the only one who needs to be told they have two ears and one mouth for a reason is her. And people are just guessing that ‘he’s on there for a bit of exposure’ maybe he just really valued his idea and knew that the dragons would try and negotiate for more than 1% so he started off low
David Mellish yeah but just because someone values a company higher than you think they should doesn’t give you a right to interrupt them, it seems like they all interrupted each other
@@davidmellish3295 If you ask a question, you listen to the answer and that northern, plastic witch just kept interrupting him. He was simply returning the favour.
You do know that these videos are almost always edited down, and that discussions can actually go on for hours? The way this video is edited, it appears that Hilary DeVey hadn't even spoken to this man before. However, I would imagine, having seen how very patient and usually helpful she is when talking to *GENUINE* entrepreners with even half-workable ideas (unlike this wide-boy con-man), she'd already long tired of hearing his nonsense and/or arguing with him - but during the more boring, non-televised parts of his no-doubt long and trying attempt to relieve some rich people of money he didn't deserve.
She was right tho. His product is useless, call centers are already equiped with call-back systems, and they don't "turn you employee to an outbaound caller on the next cycle". Everything is done trough softphones and all day long you will have inbound and outbound calls comming up, and flagged respectively on your screen. Call centers would have no interest to implicate a third party. There would be an interest for the individual tho, since instead of having a callback in say 1 hour, you just have your phone "wait for you" a couple minutes while you do something else instead of listening to those universally obnoxious elevator tunes
@@Selene_777 weq4u. I've used it in the past (I wasn't aware that it had been on Dragon's Den) to call 084/087 numbers, which are charged at a higher cost. with the app, you effectively call an 03 number instead, which comes out of your minutes allowance.
Absolutely made the Dragons look really stupid. To start with, every Dragon had questions and would not let him answer fully. The dragons made themselves look dumb.
True they rejected 2 guys who pitched a product that keeps your headphones in your ears and they all thought it was useless when it's actually a big problem lots of headphone manufacturers are trying to overcome
he's a bloody genius and out witted all of them sat there as they didn't even clock that he was doing it for publicity and not an investment..... Savage at the end " thank you for almost listening to me" spat my tea out lol
You say that, but let me offer you another point of view - there is another person who GENUINELY needed help, that this guy replaced on the show, by lying about needing investment.... That's what rubs me the wrong way about all those people going for free advertising and LYING about needing help.....
I've never seen someone contradict themselves so quickly before... "Has anyone ever told you that God gave you two of these and one of these?" *0.2 seconds later* "Will you shut up?!"
@@waynedas873 because he doesn't shut up, he wasn't really talking to the dragons, not answering their questions most of the time, just talking to the viewers advertising the product.
@@thedude3288 They were clear but pointless, he was doing unnecessary calculations for Duncan when he just needed to give out a couple key numbers, and explain his process if asked. He was an arrogant smart-ass looking for an ad and it's obvious based off his ridiculous valuation, speaking over the dragons and not caring about the dragons opinions since he came in. They ALL saw through his bulllshit and that's why they were aggressive and shutting him down.
If he was smart hed have known his product/idea was nothing new. The call back waiting system has been around for years, free of charge. As he was told by cruella.
@@richardmitchell2274 it would be if folk were talking about it and knew about it. Never heard of it or know anyone that has. Its hardly well known. Its not clever either when its already out there FREE . He got a 5 minute advert, thats it. Being honest i cant even remember what it was called. Exposure is good if it catches someones eye, but this.....its not memorable. Stupid idea when it already exists, hes accomplished nothing tbf.
@@bornyesterday8976 Well hes just received further exposure of over 1million people. Anyway the app is a side line his revenue comes from the business call centre software. Its not memorable but the drama sure is, how many people do you reckon went and searched the app up to see how many downloads it has? i did and downloaded it... bam free exposure.
@@KingStr0ng No matter how deeply you disagree with the request of someone else, there is always room for polite manners. The cast of Dragon's Den often show none. Granted, this is to excite viewers and generate ratings, but I still do not particularly like it. If you think someone asking you for money is a license to say whatever you like, that is your business. In that case we do not agree, which is fine.
@@Espedals In order to be treated with respect you need to treat others with respect in return. You can't just conduct yourself in a disrespectful manner and then cry "abuse". Thats called playing the victim. This guy came to them and wasted thier time. He asked for only 1% of his company for nearly a quarter of a million dollars when the company is worth nowhere near that. He also had an incredibly smug attitude toward them and kept talking over them when they have him input and scrutiny. Their anger is justfied. Their response is justified.
@Artex PXM She's a self made woman and started with nothing Her husband died she was broke and her son became a drug addict and died, so she still struggled on and now she's a multi millionaire
I, am considerably richer, than yoooow. Thus, I can speak to you any way I see fit, even if I do model my look on the gross coconut blue wrapper quality street that nobody wants.
I think the main problem most dragons had is their big heads and egos. Having to think that them and their money would only be worth 1 percent to this guy probably pissed them off so much they didn't even care if it was a good idea or if he was making sense.
Well the guy is clever he didn’t want to spend money on advertisement so he came to the show and boom his product is known worldwide for free He’s clearly smarter than the street fighter BLANKA wearing blue
@@NellSmith When do you think this was aired. Doooh!!! 🤣😂 This guy has been extremely successful as a businessman. Scam??? LOL, you got to be kidding. As for his appearance in the Den, only thing he should have better anticipated was that dragons only want easy investments in things already successful and percentage that satisfy their greed, certainly not 1 percent.
@@PatrickMcAsey When you feel the need to proclaim yourself as the smartest in the room, often you end up looking like an egocentric maniac. Also, he meant literally, and not figuratively. It's an over-exaggeration.
This guy is a genius. Came in with a ridiculous evaluation knowing full well that nobody would be interested, but in turn got exposure for his business on television for free. Usually the Dragons like leeching of the client but this guy took full advantage of the Dragons without the need to partner with any of them. Hope he's extremely successful
03:59 "Did any one ever tell ya god gave you two of these and one of those". She interrupted him, even if his talking crap at least have the courtesy to listen to him.
Great product, the dragons were turned off immediately at £150k for 1%, couldn't accept the valuation without even understanding the company. Usually prefer cheap small investments at £50k or thereabouts, so well out side the normal comfort zone.
This is the first "Dragon's Den" comment section that is not about Jenny jokes and I love it, I think this approach is very investible; And that's why I'm out
not really. A call center doesnt tell the person to manually call someone back, they have a priority queue and you get an automated callback that puts you in the queue when they estimate that an employee will be available momentarily. To the worker it's just like it was connected without the callback
As they should be. It's not anywhere near worth that and he's basically insulting their intelligence. In a way it's similar to attempting to scam someone.
Well, it’s a brilliant app and not just for queueing. I love how they convert those 0845 numbers (that mobile operators charge an arm and a leg for) into numbers that we can use in our included minutes #genius He certainly didn’t lose his cool rather unlike the Dragons!
The problem was he immediately got them on the defensive with the valuation. He is in the wrong place to offer 1% for any amount of money. They are just not going to be interested, they're not angel investors that can just workout the likelihood and potential of profit and take a punt and sit back, they are hands on investors that want to contribute time and their expertise to a business enterprise, for that they want more than just the projected market value that some company valuer has slapped on the company based on it's possible potential. You don't come on dragons den if you're not willing to give the dragons a very good deal in return for their time, effort and contacts. This is something many people who pitch on that show seem to miss. Once he'd pissed them off with the valuation the rest was futile.
I love how most of the dragons get really annoyed when people think they know better than they do when that’s exactly what they do to every entrepreneur who walks in
The pitches usually last around 2 hours. I can see what you mean, in the sense that it looks forced and is annoying but it has to be done or else it would be saturated with information and questions which are frankly boring and of no interest to us
@@Kutzu No the shows aired on TV and shown on here are not edited. They could have easily shown the WeQforU pitch as shown on TV, but instead shortened it, as they have done with the most recent videos. It's so annoying.
@@susanwaugh3885 Maybe they have edited the version shown on TV even heavier for the RUclips account. Although, I definitely know they don't show the full thing on TV as Peter Jones himself said the pitches can last for hours on end it's trimmed down to a smaller segment which we see on TV. The editing will just look more natural on TV, not too sure why they have decided to trim it even further for their RUclips account, though.
I'm I missing something or did they all miss the fact that what he was saying was correct... If I call center agent is making outbound calls, they can't take incoming calls at the same time. I don't really get why she shot him down over that statement.
Except that is not actually how the current versions of those systems usually work, rather they remember your place in the inbound queue and the computer system calls you back when an agent is ready to answer it. Typically the reconnection is done when an operator ends their previous call and you are next in line to be answered, usually you will get a 1-2 minute wait after it calls back while the operator is finalising the notes on the previous call before hitting the accept call button. In fact a lot of them don't even bother to tell the operator the automatic redial was even used as it makes zero difference to their job whether you listened to music in the inbound queue for half and hour or simply waited for the inbound queue system to reconnect you when it was your turn. For big call centres that often have as many calls idling in the inbound queue as they have actual calls being serviced simultaneously the savings of not having to pay for hundreds of extra simultaneous voice channels due to most of the inbound callers being in a virtual queue can make it worth paying the call cost for automatic redial too. Though using an external service provider to do that job can bring the same savings too and can be a better option for companies running old call handling software without virtual queue support licences for business software like this are often extortionately expensive if you need an upgrade to get new features.
Seraphina not all companies offer that return call and also - if the company you are calling has the same issue of busy periods, then a callback is going to be less priority than taking inbound. I used to work in a call centre and would have to request time off the inbound service to call banks as it would take around 30 minutes to get through. I've used weq4u personally for years as they find free numbers instead of premium numbers. They saved me a fortune trying to contact student loans back when I was at uni.
@@frannehxpoopz Eh once again I am not talking about requesting an agent callback because that is irrelevant to WeQ4U's business plan. I am however talking about holdless inbound queing which is what WeQ4U's business plan proposes to sell to companies that already own an in house IVR system that can do the same thing simply by turning it on. If it helps when you request the former the inbound queue handling system happily logs your call as completed in the inbound call log and hands your request off to the system responsible for followup calls yay someone elses problem. When you request the latter the inbound call handling system simply modifies the inbound queue entry to store the target phone number and set the associated external line ID to null so that it will assign a free external line and run the dialing sequence and then connect the external line to the internal extension over the switchboard just like it would if it had been connected the entire time.
Because an agent taking an incoming call also cannot take incoming calls. You can only take one call at a time. It doesn't matter if it's incoming or outgoing, it take the same length of time to speak with the caller and resolve their problem. I honestly don't understand what people like you are thinking. You seem to think that if the call is incoming it magically takes less of the agents time to solve the customer problem and thus they can take extra calls. Please explain your reasoning because it makes no sense to me.
@@waywardwind9279 I thought the same thing, there's basically no difference in call times between inbound or outbound, and callback requesters should be in the same queue as people waiting on the line so there's no "backlog" there either. The only point where it might make a difference is in who is paying for the call.
That's true of Business life and you are right. When you are relatively inconsequential and not a rival they like you because you're " harmless". Watch what happens when you are perceived as a threat :)
They obviously weren't used to an entrepreneur who wasn't willing to give away his firstborn child. The fact that he could readily answer all their questions and justify the valuation insulted them even more
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"thanks for taking the time to almost listen to me today"
Dudes an absolute savage
Good on him, everything he said was absolutely correct.
eh... he is man
also did you see his reaction when hilary told him to shut up XD
Savage? He's an idiot. €15M evaluation, they laughed him out of the room.
@@jondonnelly3 I wouldn't call it free advertising when the face of the company is a complete savage.
@Miss Take Yes you're Miss take - He was very polite when he said that and again 100% correct. It's that fire breathing dragon that wouldn't let him speak.. What a vulture.
He's not looking for investment. He wanted exposure - which he got. That product is genius and is now being used by call centres. That dude is easily as smart if not smarter than every dragon sat there.
Word. Coming on this show to gain exposure for his brand was even smarter than his idea. Can't tell if the dragons clocked or just thought he didn't know how to value a company.
Well this show makes you some % of your company for them just for exposure for being on the show.
Yes, and the dragons being so rude to him makes it even better. People rush to clips like this because of the drama. I was curious enough to look the app up - no use to me as I'm in Canada, but great concept.
Proof maybe he was
Agreed 100%
Female Dragon in blue sounds like she’s been smoking since birth.
Well, she is a dragon, after all ...
She looks like it too. That blue shirt says "smokes"
I think shes transgender
She is a cancer survive + she is old. A mixture of those things.
You win the Internet with this comment.
“Alright thank u for making the time to almost listen to me🤣🤣🤣
Good comeback
IT HAD ME DEAD OMGGG HAHAHA
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From the way he said that, I can bet that he practiced the come back.
Hahahahah, loved that
I work in a call centre and what hes saying is actually right, under busy periods you cant give callbacks as it takes you offline and outbound to give that call back, there is no computer that calls them back.
Yeah, Hilary Devey is a clueless old boot.
Hmm... there is it’s called dialler it’s a system that picks customers and calls them back.
@@445barbra Yes but during that time that advisor isn't available to take an inbound call
Video Game Club they have systems where the call out goes and when the person picks up they get the next available rep
ek2660 Yes but that is taking them from on an inbound line to an outbound one hence if 10 agents have these outbound calls come through, the inbound queue swells, its basic
Entrepreneur: I’ll give you 1% of my company, plus a packet of cigarettes.....
Lady in blue: I’m in!
Lady??? Can you explain what made you come to that conclusion??? 😁😁😁
@@Kay14911 LOL
😭😂😂😂😂
She was the one who gave it to him and well deserved. Dick.
hahahaha
One of the smartest people ever on the show for me. He was gold and I’m happy he’s proper succeeding now.
How do you know that? What's the name of his company?
@@alexjames6029 On Google it says his app was not free to use. How was he allowed on the show for 1%? No one else was.
@@fessellsahmed2587 it's free to use and other people have gone in offering 1%.
@@alexjames6029 Can't find in companies house. Was not gold as told to shut up as he interrupted that old lady. Name one other 1% offer.
Ahmed has made millions since and I think he was right to walk out as Hilary Duvey was so rude whilst interrupting him during his pitch, contestants only have 2 to minutes to pitch before the dragons can start asking questions, Hilary didn't even give it 30 seconds lol
Did Hillary just interrupt him and then call him rude for not listening to her?
He was talking over her first! :P
She couldn't get a word in edgeways as he was just irrelevantly babbling
Shes an obnoxious twat. The only time she has anything to say when she senses an opportunity to rip some stripes off someone.
I love weQ4u use it daily
Why be bullied? They were not listening.
The Comments are just hilarious defending the guy not knowing that he willingly came to the show looking for free promotion of his product to people who watch the show and not looking for an investment ,that's why he had this crazy evaluation.
Scott Chegg
I do like him but I think Hilary was right to tell him to shut up; he kept interrupting and was already warned about not listening to the dragons.
Bang on
It was free ad for his product
@Scott Chegg She does have a right to, he was there to ask for her money on a programme she was part of, not visa Versa.
@Scott Chegg The BBC only want to increase viewers and the more drama the better for the BBC. The Dragons did not sign up to assist a plug. Neither should he interrupt a potential investor when they are speaking giving her every right to tell him to shut up. He might of learnt something valuable for a person he was seeking both money and advise from. Its nothing to do with wealth, its basic manners but suggesting wealth is a factor, when everyone involved is wealthy, shows your bias.
Asks him a question and as he is explaining interrupts him. Then proceeds to suggest he is the one interrupting....
That's because he was full of shit and they should have laughed him out of the room sooner.
hamishfox he went there for the exposure and he got it so actually they were the ones getting laughed at
He's not in charge, she is. She's trying to get the answers she needs to make a decision, he's trying to control the conversation and ignore what she's trying to get to.
@@remchaill9898 No, it's not about who is in charge and who is not. He's not giving her the answer she wants to hear, i.e. confirming her presumptions, so she is cutting him off trying to get him to change his answer to what she wants to hear. If you ask someone a question, then you should be willing to hear the answer, regardless of your "position". She was rude and childish.
Woman
First time in Dragons Den I've seen an entrepreneur say I'M OUT! and walk off before any of them could say that!!!
Better to walk out than be removed by Security for scamming his way onto the programme, hm? :D
They cut it. Not the full pitch.
Deborah said she's out
@@orangewarm1 Wooooosh
They all went out in the full clip
They usually accuse people of being vague, this guy was trying to give very detailed answers and they treated him like dirt, especially that one in the blue, she vile.
his valuation was outrageous... it's like me sayin' "i gonna produce smartphones and the market size (shared mostly between apple and samsung) is this many billions, therefore i value my company at this many millions" would be absolutely crazy as im sure youll agree!
His product/service is pretty much worthless. The broad recognized that fact right away so she called him on it. He tried to bullshit his way around it so she shut him down. Good on her. He's a sleazy con
@@gregorsamsa1364 the guys a millionaire now
@@115bros7
Plenty of cons become millionaires
@@gregorsamsa1364 about as well thought out a counter as the dragons had to offer. just "lol you're wrong"
Tbh that bloke with the shoulder pads and wig was ruder than him...
angelfirepunk1 Hilary Lorraine Devey CBE (born 10 March 1957) is an English businesswoman, television personality and entrepreneur, best known for her two-year role on BBC Two programme Dragons' Den until she left to present the Channel 4 series The Intern.
She’s worth millions.
@@victoriaknapp7475 no thas a man in a drag outfit nigga
Samuel Darling she’s just a Bolton inbred
@@victoriaknapp7475 "she's worth millions" is irrelevant.
Shoulder pads n wig lol ha ha
Amazing how that woman in blue is a millionaire but can't get a quality wig Haha
Why would she buy a wig made out of hair when she can buy one made out of plastic for cheaper
She probably made her millions shopping at thrift stores
Fede Rico its over😂😂😂
Not even manners by the looks of it
Face like a dogs dinner
I personally like this guy, especially at the ending. Shows he is no push over
it shows that he is a smartass
@@jb0609 He lost as soon as he asked for 1%.
@@jb0609 a smartass whose business is still going 6 years later.
@@jb0609 why should he take disrespect from some random old lady? He has a good point to make and he's not a child. Simple
Nah the smartest guy was the guy with an egg cooker. Once he forgot to put an egg in, then it didn't work 2 times, didn't sell anything and walked away with investment by two dragons
I like that guy, he’s smart and the dragons didn’t know how to respond to him answering questions in depth, he didn’t go there for an investment in my idea, he went there for exposure and got it..
This video is he's free advertising in RUclips, over a 1ml. He cheated the system under dragons nose, very clever indeed.
The dragons: You should always be prepared when you come into the den. Make sure you know your stuff.
Also the dragons: Why are you giving me such long answers with so many facts in them?
Exactly
Woman in blue : asks questions
Man : replies to question
Woman : WiLl YoU ShUT uP
she wasn't asking him she was trying to explain and kept being talked over by him
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She hinted twice to stop talking but he doesnt get it.
She is very rude. They are just humans m not God
Her problem is she was arrogant and she basically wanted to tell him he was wrong, without even giving him a chance to explain why SHE was actually wrong (which she was). Her attitude screwed this guy.
Peter got it when he asked him "why are u here"
So the Dragons can be as rude as they want to him and he just has to stand there and take it on the chin.
you can answer back if you want
Yeah, thats how the world works. When you're asking for £150,000 for nothing in return, (on a TV show remember) you need to be able to take a grilling. They are called Dragons for a reason, and it is their "Den".
Rich people are that way. They want someone they can take the piss on
@@Zauchi will you SHUUT UUP❗
@@oliversoar7665 It's not for "nothing in return", it's not a gift, it's not a charity, it's an equal bussiness arrangement. They have no right to be that rude.
If he was selling dalmations she would of took the lot!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gary Smallshaw LMFAOOO
Would HAVE taken the lot, not would OF.
@@willbee7925
Get a life! Dick head
@recall 😂😂😂
I love how he was only willing to offer the Dragons 1%. Totally cut their egos to ribbons. He knew with that opening shot he would probably blow any chance of a deal but I doubt he ever wanted any of the Dragons money, the exposure was worth much more.
exposure to what..
I didn't even get the name of his company or app from this.
@@joshkokichi He literally says the name of the company at 00:04
@@giuseppealessandromariafin9434 literally thanks.
@@LeMerchwhat do you think? its basically almost free marketing and exposure if you dont understand that then sorry
It was a publicity stunt. He did this to get public interest in his app and knew the dragons wouldn't go for it.
Exactly, and he was very intelligent about it. I can imagine the company will blow up as a result, and he doesn't have to worry about entertaining any of these wankers either, as clearly none of them had anything to offer.
@@wewlad-n1g the dragons are all so old they probably don't know what aps are. Other than Jones.
Banatyne is so old be probably thinks software mens clothes made of cotton.
@@nifralo2752 Banatyne is a typical example of how the vast majority of wealthy people born pre 1980 don't deserve the wealth they have, and only got to where they are due to lack of competition at the time. In other words, he's a fucking moron who got a boomer boost through life.
Hate to tell you but he's probably smarter than you guys put together. Have a word.
@@DavidSmith-wn6pw it depends how you figure smarter.
Yeah, he actually handled that well.. not sure id have been so civilised.
But you’d never be on the show.
David Mellish I think you’ll find it you watch it back she was the one that started interrupting him which is why he said ‘thank you for almost listening’ and which is why he started to also interrupt her, if anyone was rude it was her, she asked him a question and when he began to answer it she started talking over him, the only one who needs to be told they have two ears and one mouth for a reason is her. And people are just guessing that ‘he’s on there for a bit of exposure’ maybe he just really valued his idea and knew that the dragons would try and negotiate for more than 1% so he started off low
David Mellish yeah but just because someone values a company higher than you think they should doesn’t give you a right to interrupt them, it seems like they all interrupted each other
@@davidmellish3295 If you ask a question, you listen to the answer and that northern, plastic witch just kept interrupting him. He was simply returning the favour.
@Sean Q Who cares what the show's purpose is, he got what he wanted. That means he handled it quite well.
Lol, "will you shut up"
Guy explains everything perfectly and she essentially couldn't handle it. Pretty embarrassing tbh.
he was a smartass
@@jb0609 Not really, he's pitching his product, he was explaining it.
Wasn't a smartass at all.
You do know that these videos are almost always edited down, and that discussions can actually go on for hours? The way this video is edited, it appears that Hilary DeVey hadn't even spoken to this man before. However, I would imagine, having seen how very patient and usually helpful she is when talking to *GENUINE* entrepreners with even half-workable ideas (unlike this wide-boy con-man), she'd already long tired of hearing his nonsense and/or arguing with him - but during the more boring, non-televised parts of his no-doubt long and trying attempt to relieve some rich people of money he didn't deserve.
he explained fk'all...
She was right tho. His product is useless, call centers are already equiped with call-back systems, and they don't "turn you employee to an outbaound caller on the next cycle". Everything is done trough softphones and all day long you will have inbound and outbound calls comming up, and flagged respectively on your screen. Call centers would have no interest to implicate a third party. There would be an interest for the individual tho, since instead of having a callback in say 1 hour, you just have your phone "wait for you" a couple minutes while you do something else instead of listening to those universally obnoxious elevator tunes
The thing in blue is definitely an alcoholic shaking for a drink
'The thing' hahaha brilliant
Bit harsh
stevie h that thing is worth 80 million pound geez
@@Pcash246 80 mill you say? Things are looking up
What a disrespectful fucking cow
Who is the female Disney villain in the middle?
Maximus25N 😂😂👍🏻
*male
Hilary Devey.
De villa de cruz fro 101 delmations
Did you just assume their Gender?
Touker: I don't get out of bed for 1%
#isthatnylon #londonoffices
Touker would of if he could see how successful this guy is now he would have been quids in even with 1%
@@johnjtplastering6991 at that time it was risk
Wfat is the app called?
@@Selene_777 weq4u. I've used it in the past (I wasn't aware that it had been on Dragon's Den) to call 084/087 numbers, which are charged at a higher cost. with the app, you effectively call an 03 number instead, which comes out of your minutes allowance.
Isnt he there to pitch? LET THE MAN PITCH. Wow
He actually was there to expose his company on national TV he now makes even more money than he would have with a Dragon.
@@batch_2731 whats his company called.
@MrNorthernSol i think that is why they were trying to get rid of him
You know this video isn't even what was broadcast, right? It's been massively cut.
@@batch_2731 Please tell us the name of his company.
"No you're not, it's automated"... so the Call Center is just automatically gonna call the person back without having an operator ready?
yes, then you would wait on the queue again.
We do that FYI.
You have never seen a call center eh? The operator has a button to hold all incoming/outgoing calls if they are not ready for the next one.
Yes! Unless you tell the system that you’re clocking off to go on break or end your shift the system does what is automatically programmed to do.
No. It's going to call them back when an operator is available.
@@FernoFry you've obviously never seen more than 1 call centre. The one you have seen sounds like it was probably 30 years ago.
He didn’t want a deal he wanted the advertisement
Absolutely made the Dragons look really stupid. To start with, every Dragon had questions and would not let him answer fully. The dragons made themselves look dumb.
I tend to agree
He was a smart guy
Valuation I don't know
Agreed. He held his cool and they made idiots of themselves.
These dragons really think there above everyone hope that guy has huge success make the wish they had listened
@@johnjtplastering6991 I read he's filthy rich nowdays, his company had a good amount of success
BAAAG wrong
They should rename this show to the dinosaur den cause these people sound like washed up relics who don’t understand technology
True they rejected 2 guys who pitched a product that keeps your headphones in your ears and they all thought it was useless when it's actually a big problem lots of headphone manufacturers are trying to overcome
Petee jones....made his millions with tech.....take it you didnt know that. If you're pitching tech, hes defo the man to have onboard.
@@karim3221 cant say ive ever come across the problem.
@@bornyesterday8976 I guess you got lucky then
@@karim3221 dont know anyone that has.
Once in a while I like when people shut the dragons down and walk away. I think it’s more empowering than getting the money.
The one in blue always make me think of a council estate version of Cruella de vil from 101 Dalmatians 😂
Ha ha 😁
Bit classist
@@lucygrace9580 she's proud of being from a working class background and good on her, don't project your own issues at people making simple jokes
@@lucygrace9580 fuck off you tosser.
Best. Insult. Ever
he's a bloody genius and out witted all of them sat there as they didn't even clock that he was doing it for publicity and not an investment.....
Savage at the end " thank you for almost listening to me" spat my tea out lol
You say that, but let me offer you another point of view - there is another person who GENUINELY needed help, that this guy replaced on the show, by lying about needing investment....
That's what rubs me the wrong way about all those people going for free advertising and LYING about needing help.....
@@cl1cka very true
@It's time to stop yeah, he noticed and called him out on it!
They definitely realised
Peter called him out almost immediately, and they spent time proving to the viewers that he's a wind-up.
I would like to see the whole uncut pitch! Must have been hilarious
“Will you shut up!?” Stop interrupting him and maybe he’ll listen...
I've never seen someone contradict themselves so quickly before... "Has anyone ever told you that God gave you two of these and one of these?" *0.2 seconds later* "Will you shut up?!"
@@waynedas873 because he doesn't shut up, he wasn't really talking to the dragons, not answering their questions most of the time, just talking to the viewers advertising the product.
@@waynedas873 will u shuttup?
@@Fif0l he was giving clear detailed answers it was just going over their heads. they heard the valuation and went into a strop.
@@thedude3288 They were clear but pointless, he was doing unnecessary calculations for Duncan when he just needed to give out a couple key numbers, and explain his process if asked. He was an arrogant smart-ass looking for an ad and it's obvious based off his ridiculous valuation, speaking over the dragons and not caring about the dragons opinions since he came in. They ALL saw through his bulllshit and that's why they were aggressive and shutting him down.
I think the dragons were just jealous of how smart this guy is, especially the beast in the blue how rude was she!
If he was smart hed have known his product/idea was nothing new. The call back waiting system has been around for years, free of charge. As he was told by cruella.
beast hahahaha!
@@bornyesterday8976 he came on the show for his brand exposier, thats the clever part
@@richardmitchell2274 it would be if folk were talking about it and knew about it. Never heard of it or know anyone that has. Its hardly well known. Its not clever either when its already out there FREE . He got a 5 minute advert, thats it. Being honest i cant even remember what it was called. Exposure is good if it catches someones eye, but this.....its not memorable. Stupid idea when it already exists, hes accomplished nothing tbf.
@@bornyesterday8976 Well hes just received further exposure of over 1million people. Anyway the app is a side line his revenue comes from the business call centre software. Its not memorable but the drama sure is, how many people do you reckon went and searched the app up to see how many downloads it has? i did and downloaded it... bam free exposure.
Finally, someone who stands up to the dragons' often unfounded abuse.
"Abuse"
You are asking them for money. 1% for nearly a quarter of a million dollars is insulting.
@@KingStr0ng No matter how deeply you disagree with the request of someone else, there is always room for polite manners. The cast of Dragon's Den often show none. Granted, this is to excite viewers and generate ratings, but I still do not particularly like it.
If you think someone asking you for money is a license to say whatever you like, that is your business. In that case we do not agree, which is fine.
@@Espedals In order to be treated with respect you need to treat others with respect in return. You can't just conduct yourself in a disrespectful manner and then cry "abuse". Thats called playing the victim. This guy came to them and wasted thier time. He asked for only 1% of his company for nearly a quarter of a million dollars when the company is worth nowhere near that. He also had an incredibly smug attitude toward them and kept talking over them when they have him input and scrutiny. Their anger is justfied. Their response is justified.
@@KingStr0ng he didn’t want the money, he wanted exposure.
The abuse stems from a feeling of superiority and total arrogance. The more I watch this program, the more I dislike the dragons.
The one in blue definitely didn’t earn her money.
Wow the one in blue deserves a slap.shevwas incredibly rude to the man
I think if you google her you’d be quite surprised, she’s rude yes but she knows what she’s talking about
@Artex PXM She's a self made woman and started with nothing
Her husband died she was broke and her son became a drug addict and died, so she still struggled on and now she's a multi millionaire
@Chango Chilemba Still got more money than you tho
Damn you really don't know who you're talking about. She absolutely made every penny.
I, am considerably richer, than yoooow. Thus, I can speak to you any way I see fit, even if I do model my look on the gross coconut blue wrapper quality street that nobody wants.
Brilliant!
i actually really like that quality street sweet. Can you please refrain from coconut abuse?
The green triangle is the best
LMAO
Ow much monaaayyy have ya got ya bastard....ave ya got the new mercedes 500 C?
I think the main problem most dragons had is their big heads and egos. Having to think that them and their money would only be worth 1 percent to this guy probably pissed them off so much they didn't even care if it was a good idea or if he was making sense.
Great to hear someone telling that mob to GTF - and now doing well.
1% of 15 million with not even 100k in sales, yeah they're the ones with the ego.
Exception is Richard farleigh
Well the guy is clever he didn’t want to spend money on advertisement so he came to the show and boom his product is known worldwide for free
He’s clearly smarter than the street fighter BLANKA wearing blue
Peter asked is it a joke
Hey....dont insult Blanka
His business has since failed.
am dead XD
@@NellSmith When do you think this was aired. Doooh!!! 🤣😂
This guy has been extremely successful as a businessman. Scam??? LOL, you got to be kidding. As for his appearance in the Den, only thing he should have better anticipated was that dragons only want easy investments in things already successful and percentage that satisfy their greed, certainly not 1 percent.
Jesus Christ that woman in blue is literally Jaba the Hutt
More like Jabba the Scot
...
Zoochini 'Literally' spotted. Do you know what 'literally' means? I think you mean '... is Jaba the Hutt, _figuratively speaking_ '
@@PatrickMcAsey You sound like a lost reddit bot
@@notar2123 Could you explain what a 'lost reddit bot' is? You assume that everyone understands this sort of jargon; they don't.
@@PatrickMcAsey When you feel the need to proclaim yourself as the smartest in the room, often you end up looking like an egocentric maniac.
Also, he meant literally, and not figuratively.
It's an over-exaggeration.
The woman in the blue dress had no right to talk to him like that at the end. He was actually talking sense
Agree.
You should see them when the cameras are off!!
This guy is a genius. Came in with a ridiculous evaluation knowing full well that nobody would be interested, but in turn got exposure for his business on television for free. Usually the Dragons like leeching of the client but this guy took full advantage of the Dragons without the need to partner with any of them. Hope he's extremely successful
Yes great call. He took a spot from someone who might have needed it. Still hope he is extremely successful?
@@marks2997How dare you buy bandaids. People need those you know?
He didn’t get exposure for free. The den usually takes a percentage off every company featured on the show.
"Did anyone ever tell you that God gave you 2 of these and only 1 of those?" I burst out laughing :)
But the one is bigger than the two collectively 😂
They just don't like the fact that he's not willing to play their game
He tried to call Jenny but Jenny was out
thats ones worn abit thin cheif.
And for that reason, I'm out.
@@BigLRestInPeace well you must have put a whole lot of thought into that didnt you?
@@davidmg1925 what are you, some kind of keyboard warrior?
@@BigLRestInPeace Yes i wondered if you'd respond with another bait.
Go back to your play-ground little boy.
Asking for 150k for 1% is the kind of move a really savage entrepreneur would do respect.
Jeez Wheezy Lizzie over there in blue talking about him talking too much. She only stopped talking so she could catch her breath
03:59 "Did any one ever tell ya god gave you two of these and one of those". She interrupted him, even if his talking crap at least have the courtesy to listen to him.
I'm pretty sure Hilary has got two of these and one of those 😂
When she raised her eyebrows, she pulled her stockings up.
He wasn’t interested in a deal. He wanted exposure and to show how great he is under pressure.
Great product, the dragons were turned off immediately at £150k for 1%, couldn't accept the valuation without even understanding the company. Usually prefer cheap small investments at £50k or thereabouts, so well out side the normal comfort zone.
yeah, none of them are technology experts and it showed. They like old school retail products.
Hello Dragons' Den folks, would it be possible to add the original air date in the description? This would be handy. Thanks!!
i think its 20th october 2012, the episode is season 10 episode 7
He was actually very polite dealing with that rude old cow.
He finished them off with the last argument. He’s the one who basically got out before any 3 of them said it. Also he’s successful now.
A Azaz and?
A Azaz id rather look like him and be less rich than look like the dude in the blue and be super rich
Akshay Kaylaser. that pathetic “like game” again.
'WILL YER SHUTTUP!'....... 'Well thank you for almost taking the time to listen to me' 😂
Hahaha
This is the first "Dragon's Den" comment section that is not about Jenny jokes and I love it, I think this approach is very investible;
And that's why I'm out
Unfortunately they are instead talking complete crap.
I'd just like to thank the comment section, for making me laugh out loud on numerous occasions :) Thank you all!
His logic was too strong. Amazing.
not really. A call center doesnt tell the person to manually call someone back, they have a priority queue and you get an automated callback that puts you in the queue when they estimate that an employee will be available momentarily. To the worker it's just like it was connected without the callback
They’re just pissed because he offered 1% of his company for their investment.
As they should be. It's not anywhere near worth that and he's basically insulting their intelligence. In a way it's similar to attempting to scam someone.
@@KingStr0ng He never wanted investment. He wanted publicity, which he got.
Lol that woman is just as bad inside as outside
kalbaanik 🤣
kalbaanik not quite😂
How would you know ? Says a lot about your standards 😂
She's now dead and for that reason she's out
He handled that situation like a BAWS.
He failed to get investment though lol
'Baws' is Scottish for your balls...
Respect to the lad. He's very intelligent and he knows what he's doing, Hope he finds greater success in the future
How is he intelligent 😂
@@Ismail-ss7rw he came up with something that works and is making money out of it
This guy was great, not intimidated at all, I hope he did well.
Well, it’s a brilliant app and not just for queueing. I love how they convert those 0845 numbers (that mobile operators charge an arm and a leg for) into numbers that we can use in our included minutes #genius He certainly didn’t lose his cool rather unlike the Dragons!
Why has this been re-edited? Where's the original?
Hahaha he played those dragons like a flute
I feel bad for the guy, the dragons were being very rude
The problem was he immediately got them on the defensive with the valuation. He is in the wrong place to offer 1% for any amount of money. They are just not going to be interested, they're not angel investors that can just workout the likelihood and potential of profit and take a punt and sit back, they are hands on investors that want to contribute time and their expertise to a business enterprise, for that they want more than just the projected market value that some company valuer has slapped on the company based on it's possible potential. You don't come on dragons den if you're not willing to give the dragons a very good deal in return for their time, effort and contacts. This is something many people who pitch on that show seem to miss. Once he'd pissed them off with the valuation the rest was futile.
£150,000 for 1% is unheard of so who let him on plus he wouldn't stop talking.
I love how most of the dragons get really annoyed when people think they know better than they do when that’s exactly what they do to every entrepreneur who walks in
The more I watch the dragons the less I like them
I only like deborah and tej... The rest........are out
They love themselves.
they didnt get rich by trying to please people. I respect them because they tell the truth no matter how brutal it is.
Thank you DD for giving this man some nice exposure.
The guy walked in, got free promotion and advertising for his product and walked away cheekily. I’m surprised they even aired this.
What a guy, didn’t let himself get turned over by the dragons and stood his ground! Fair play to him!
God the blue woman is such a cow... that guy is smarter than all of them put together, I admire his patience wow
lara grove lol
The fact that she kept her Northern accent shows how chippy she is.
Really? Then he'd be richer.
Lee Lorenz being rich and being smart are not the same thing
@@chrisgrudge6964 It sure is in business mate
The guys buisiness idea is genius. He was very respectful.
Kick that woman who told him to shut up off the show. I never want to see her again.
The business is running successfully at the time of writing
@@spikespoke5446 how successful?
@@anunusualironiccircumstanc2246 Not very. It's only worth 100k, 1/150th of the valuation he gave it.
@@spikespoke5446 not really, it is still not even close to his bullshit, obvious lying evalation.
I’m impressed by how the man handled how rude the dragons were.
Don’t edit the vids so much
The pitches usually last around 2 hours. I can see what you mean, in the sense that it looks forced and is annoying but it has to be done or else it would be saturated with information and questions which are frankly boring and of no interest to us
@@Kutzu Yeah that makes sense but the vids should be at least 10-15 mins long not only a few minutes or you cant enjoy it.
@@Kutzu No the shows aired on TV and shown on here are not edited. They could have easily shown the WeQforU pitch as shown on TV, but instead shortened it, as they have done with the most recent videos. It's so annoying.
@@susanwaugh3885 Maybe they have edited the version shown on TV even heavier for the RUclips account. Although, I definitely know they don't show the full thing on TV as Peter Jones himself said the pitches can last for hours on end it's trimmed down to a smaller segment which we see on TV. The editing will just look more natural on TV, not too sure why they have decided to trim it even further for their RUclips account, though.
I wish I could have 1/1000 of this man’s confidence
I'm I missing something or did they all miss the fact that what he was saying was correct...
If I call center agent is making outbound calls, they can't take incoming calls at the same time. I don't really get why she shot him down over that statement.
Except that is not actually how the current versions of those systems usually work, rather they remember your place in the inbound queue and the computer system calls you back when an agent is ready to answer it. Typically the reconnection is done when an operator ends their previous call and you are next in line to be answered, usually you will get a 1-2 minute wait after it calls back while the operator is finalising the notes on the previous call before hitting the accept call button. In fact a lot of them don't even bother to tell the operator the automatic redial was even used as it makes zero difference to their job whether you listened to music in the inbound queue for half and hour or simply waited for the inbound queue system to reconnect you when it was your turn. For big call centres that often have as many calls idling in the inbound queue as they have actual calls being serviced simultaneously the savings of not having to pay for hundreds of extra simultaneous voice channels due to most of the inbound callers being in a virtual queue can make it worth paying the call cost for automatic redial too.
Though using an external service provider to do that job can bring the same savings too and can be a better option for companies running old call handling software without virtual queue support licences for business software like this are often extortionately expensive if you need an upgrade to get new features.
Seraphina not all companies offer that return call and also - if the company you are calling has the same issue of busy periods, then a callback is going to be less priority than taking inbound. I used to work in a call centre and would have to request time off the inbound service to call banks as it would take around 30 minutes to get through.
I've used weq4u personally for years as they find free numbers instead of premium numbers. They saved me a fortune trying to contact student loans back when I was at uni.
@@frannehxpoopz Eh once again I am not talking about requesting an agent callback because that is irrelevant to WeQ4U's business plan. I am however talking about holdless inbound queing which is what WeQ4U's business plan proposes to sell to companies that already own an in house IVR system that can do the same thing simply by turning it on.
If it helps when you request the former the inbound queue handling system happily logs your call as completed in the inbound call log and hands your request off to the system responsible for followup calls yay someone elses problem.
When you request the latter the inbound call handling system simply modifies the inbound queue entry to store the target phone number and set the associated external line ID to null so that it will assign a free external line and run the dialing sequence and then connect the external line to the internal extension over the switchboard just like it would if it had been connected the entire time.
Because an agent taking an incoming call also cannot take incoming calls. You can only take one call at a time. It doesn't matter if it's incoming or outgoing, it take the same length of time to speak with the caller and resolve their problem.
I honestly don't understand what people like you are thinking. You seem to think that if the call is incoming it magically takes less of the agents time to solve the customer problem and thus they can take extra calls. Please explain your reasoning because it makes no sense to me.
@@waywardwind9279 I thought the same thing, there's basically no difference in call times between inbound or outbound, and callback requesters should be in the same queue as people waiting on the line so there's no "backlog" there either. The only point where it might make a difference is in who is paying for the call.
04:25 will you shut up...
Silence..
Well thank you for taking your time to almost listen to me today...
Awkward smiles...
I would've knocked her out
Jeremiah Bamidele 😂
Jeremiah Bamidele lol
@@jeremiah6162 Then his app would be called prison4U. He interrupted her.
@@jeremiah6162 They are all shocked as he asked for 1% and valued at £15 million. Do you want me finish explaining? NOT REALLY NO. Carries on talking
dragons playing checkers while mans playing chess
Another one for lunch time. Thank you
None of the dragons like it if anyone stands up to them.
That's true of Business life and you are right. When you are relatively inconsequential and not a rival they like you because you're " harmless".
Watch what happens when you are perceived as a threat :)
Yeah ur right x
That woman in blue is proof that money doesn’t buy you class
She's still richer than you, tho
@@ileolai And somehow still the trashiest person I've ever seen
@@BigBeerus you must be a real boring person then
@@ileolai Or j dont make a habbit out of associating with trashy people. Must be hard in the u.s
@@BigBeerus I'm from Ireland, where we know how to spell words properly.
They obviously weren't used to an entrepreneur who wasn't willing to give away his firstborn child. The fact that he could readily answer all their questions and justify the valuation insulted them even more
He sure is taking the opportunity to share his product well.
Surely he didn't expect that to go well for one second.
The man didn't want an offer, he wanted exposure for his product.
>when the entrepreneur knows too much about his business and makes the dragons sweat
This is what happens when the dragons fail to rip off somebody.
This man is a genius, glad he showed them who's boss
The guy was smart, funny, and way ahead of the dragons
4:25 you’re welcome 😂
That creature in blue is an amalgamation of Cruella de Vil and Ursula from The Little Mermaid.
This will show up on one of those montages of "offers the dragons wished they took"
Peter Freeman 1% in some phony app that most wouldn’t need? Are you stupid
The women in blue seems like she has a cigarette factory in her throat.
it's because she had a stroke
The guy was not there for money or dragons. He just wanted free publicity for his product.
You sure that's a woman?
If you only knew her medical struggles, you would just be mute 🤫 my friend and pray
Hilary doesn’t know how call centres work!!!
All I can say is - go prove them wrong ✌ good luck
@Richie Summers it didn't fail. It's successful.
Just like the guy from Ring they all sat and laughed and now the owner of Ring is worth more than any of them