LeVar: gives a profound and emotional comment on the foundation of Data and Geordi's relationship with him. He gives what his perspective was, as an actor, to get the delivery in the scenes where they interact. Brent: "lol bro just needed to pay some bills"
Brent manages to nail an android who believes he feels no emotion yet clearly does in a way that no one, wether they be human or himself can comprehend - along with child like innocence, intelligence and quiet saddens all at the same time. He deserves all the praise in the world for conveying so many things at once in this one character.
I fucking love how honest he is about the money. It's not like he took it and slacked off either. He nailed that character like Noone else could have and is an absolutely huge reason why the show was so successful. No matter what he got paid per episode he should of gotten more. What a total legend.
Levar was proof the civil rights movement worked. It always seemed like up until this time that black astronauts were second class citizens or were killed off in a show. Here he was portrayed as not just an equal but as the superior friend. The only thing they struggled with was finding him a girlfriend.
Data and The Doctor from Voyager are such iconic characters and their quest to understand humanity was so crucial to the series they were in and despite one being an android and the other being a hologram they both were the most human characters in their shows.
Yeees! But keep Kurztman out of it. We need our own Filoni and Favreau for ST. I would also love a series with either Arik Soong or Noonian Soong. That aspect of the creator wasn't explored in depth and Noonian, being this eccentric scientist probably got into plenty of trouble while constructing Data. Who knows what constituted all of Data's childhood.
I would be interested to know how Spiner felt about whether there was any additional pressure (as opposed to other actors) about maintaining his body shape/weight.
Listening to Levar Burton talk was the best part of this video. "Well they never did use this part but...I thought it was great!" Yes Levar. I'm sure it was.
The background music reminds me of something from Enterprise. It's amazing how powerful and hopeful this music and the whole premise of Gene's utopian dream.
Data played several instruments throughout the episodes so it's hard to place the one shot... He played the violin in a few episodes, I think (I know he played in Inheritance, but the other times escape me ). He played the guitar once (I believe that was The Silicone Avatar) and even tap danced once (Data's Day).
HAHAHA look at Ron D Moore! He looks so much older now... wow. In the same way he has matured between TNG and Battlestar Galactica, scifi also matured... largely thanks to him. RDM, you rock! Also an excellent piece on the wonderful actor who is Brent Spiner, and his wonderfully human way of portraying an inhuman actor.
So, motion control means "I suspect" that he has to play him self twice each time imagining he is looking at the other actor, in this case him self, then time the words he has to speak, and then over lap the film recording track with the other and blend them together to create two characters who are engaging in dialog with each other.
"Did anyone else notice the incorrectly labeled scene from "Measure of a Man." It was labeled 'A Matter of Honor'." I just noticed that for the first time. I was about to point it out.
That would be ideal. I seen promos of Discovery but it looks really boring and overly dark. I would much prefer a Generation\Voyager mix type of show. With priority being acting, writing, compelling stories and amazing characters over just fancy action\CGI stuff or just being dark and bleak like a lot of sci-fi these days.
Data says he has no emotions or feelings, but even early on, he experiences wonder and the enjoyment of it. He even expressed want, the want to feel. Is that not an emotion. Is it a need in the way he needs energy to survive or is it an emotional need?
He was something big in Season Four because I own the DVD box set. He was giddy in the bonus features about how since DS9 was the Alpha Quadrant's show, he owned the Alpha Quadrant now. I remember him smirking about that. Fine, but Kirk shouldn't have died, and even if they just HAD to kill him off, they should have done it in a manner that Riker, Worf, Data, and the crew could have seen it and witnessed such heroism, like Data did except the TNG crew should have had a viewscreen shot of it.
You should judge Ronald Moore on how well he writes, not on who he kills off. Kirk was the best character in all of Trek, but to make a story good you can't rely on the same characters forever. The show loses realism and depth of all the characters are invincible. Thats one of the traits that make BSG such an incredibly well written story. I mean Ronald Moore won a fucking Peabody award for his storytelling of BSG. If anything, Moore helped Star Trek maintain it's reputation of being excellent.
Data is a true Superman. To be an "ubermensch" is not about having extraordinary abilities like Data's or Clark Kent's, it's about character. ENTIRELY about character. Khan Noonien Singh was not a Superman. BRAINIAC 4.0(James Marsters; SMALLVILLE) is not a superman however he is an android like Data. BRAINIAC 5 was much more like Data in character admitting his wrongdoings of the past and serving as a "temporal agent" in what I like to call the Superhero Coalition. Commander Data serves a different kind of coalition, the United Federation of Planets(UFP) as an officer in the Federation Starfleet.
Yeah, but he wrote the story for Generations. That's my jaundice that I have with Ronald Moore. If I'm not mistaken, he was in on the success of DS9 with Ira Steven Behr. Now that was a show. I think it could have been better if Avery Brooks' performance wasn't so mechanical.
Can anybody think of an actor of his generation, or any, that could have been Data? D.D.Lewis, Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, and even Gary Oldman could not have done it, think I. Discuss! MAybe Andy Kaufman, at his best. I don't know. One of Televisions, and even 20th century Americana culture's best fictional characters, so say I.
yeah, cuz god forbid anyone use a word that everyone else doesnt know, it might make them curious and want to learn about it more, and we cant have that, can we?
You say to make a story good, one cannot rely on the same characters forever. Well, that's EXACTLY what Ronald Moore did in Generations, and that's why the movie sucked. He could have written a story that omitted Kirk's presence. There was no need to "pass the batton" anyway. Didn't they listen to Kirk's final monologue in VI?
LeVar: gives a profound and emotional comment on the foundation of Data and Geordi's relationship with him. He gives what his perspective was, as an actor, to get the delivery in the scenes where they interact.
Brent: "lol bro just needed to pay some bills"
XD Yes. That's Brent for you.
Brent manages to nail an android who believes he feels no emotion yet clearly does in a way that no one, wether they be human or himself can comprehend - along with child like innocence, intelligence and quiet saddens all at the same time. He deserves all the praise in the world for conveying so many things at once in this one character.
I couldn't have said it better myself.👏👏
@@lavender802 Hear, hear.
The best
I fucking love how honest he is about the money. It's not like he took it and slacked off either. He nailed that character like Noone else could have and is an absolutely huge reason why the show was so successful. No matter what he got paid per episode he should of gotten more. What a total legend.
Yes this is true. I should have perused acting classes when I was young!
I love how he just keeps saying "I could pay my bills! Yay!"
Are you familar with the term "starving actor"?
We all need to meet our basic needs first
Love the story of Brent being broke before he started playing Data to becoming such a Sci Fi Icon!
I really love Data, but I also love Levar Burton's insight on this video. He's so eloquent and I just love his voice
he's the worst in this video. I do like his voice and his portrayal as Geordie, but he really is grasping at straws in this video
Indeed, love Levar's voice. Don't forget Levar hosted the great kids show Reading Rainbow 📖 🌈
Levar was proof the civil rights movement worked. It always seemed like up until this time that black astronauts were second class citizens or were killed off in a show. Here he was portrayed as not just an equal but as the superior friend. The only thing they struggled with was finding him a girlfriend.
2:00 "I'll do it for the year, it'll NEVER last beyond that...We can't redo Star Trek, that's ridiculous!"
HAHAHAHA Ahhh, little did he know... XD
A true hero of the 90's
I really do love Data, and I'm always happy to see Brent Spiner achieve great things. I love you both!
God. If Brent had said no, or not continued after the first episode, TNG wouldn't have Data.
That terrifies me.
Exceltiaawesome , I heard the character Data was actually to be played by sir Patrick Stewart at first.
@@mutalix : Is there any truth to this? I find this difficult to believe.
Well data, You didn't make star trek worse, infact you made it even better than it ever has been before so be proud mr android
Star Trek: TNG was a formative force in my life like few others. I felt and experienced every episode. It's largely responsible for who I am today.
In what regard
Data and The Doctor from Voyager are such iconic characters and their quest to understand humanity was so crucial to the series they were in and despite one being an android and the other being a hologram they both were the most human characters in their shows.
a wonderful definition of friendship from Lavar Burton
Data was my favorite in TNG. Brent has a very clear pronunciation. I learnt a lot of English watching him in TNG.
Great, now I want a "The perceivers" series. :)
Me too
Same! I love the Data and Geordie bromance thing :)
Yeees! But keep Kurztman out of it. We need our own Filoni and Favreau for ST. I would also love a series with either Arik Soong or Noonian Soong. That aspect of the creator wasn't explored in depth and Noonian, being this eccentric scientist probably got into plenty of trouble while constructing Data. Who knows what constituted all of Data's childhood.
Rick Berman was talking about Brent Spiner's appearance on "Night Court" where he played "a strange kind of appalachian country kooky guy".
Ahhh, the Yugoslavian recidivist knuckleheads!
FIX MY VCR
Bob and June Weaver.
I would be interested to know how Spiner felt about whether there was any additional pressure (as opposed to other actors) about maintaining his body shape/weight.
From 2002.. Watching this in the year 2020..We are travelling to the future in the future..
2:37 This episode called "A Measure Of a Man" not "A Matter of Honor" which was one of the most brilliant TV I ever seen!
Excellent recommendation, RUclips!
Lol, at 2:36 they got the episode wrong. The clip is from Measure of a Man, the episode that aired after A Matter of Honor.
I was post that and thought "someone HAD to catch that" so I checked the comments and Walla.
i can’t imagine anyone else as data im so glad he stuck with it
Listening to Levar Burton talk was the best part of this video. "Well they never did use this part but...I thought it was great!"
Yes Levar. I'm sure it was.
The background music reminds me of something from Enterprise. It's amazing how powerful and hopeful this music and the whole premise of Gene's utopian dream.
What LeVar Burton is REALLY saying in this interview: "God I would have loved some screentime. Doing anything!"
he wanted more bromance
Sadly that tends to be the Chief Engineer's lot in Star Trek.
I wish that "Perceivers" story happened on screen, but I can see how their relationship was fleshed out after hearing about this.
You can see the crazy in his eyes. Maybe that's the reason for the visor.
At least when Geordi has scenes he is invariably playing an important role in the story. Unlike Troy who has tons of screen time being a bimbo.
"Working with your favorite actor" 😂
Data played several instruments throughout the episodes so it's hard to place the one shot... He played the violin in a few episodes, I think (I know he played in Inheritance, but the other times escape me ). He played the guitar once (I believe that was The Silicone Avatar) and even tap danced once (Data's Day).
I like Data, and his positronic brain. A machine who's really more human than most of us.
How can you not like this guy? He's great and Data is great ; )
HAHAHA look at Ron D Moore! He looks so much older now... wow.
In the same way he has matured between TNG and Battlestar Galactica, scifi also matured... largely thanks to him.
RDM, you rock!
Also an excellent piece on the wonderful actor who is Brent Spiner, and his wonderfully human way of portraying an inhuman actor.
Data and Astroboy share the same achievement... been human as possible.
So, motion control means "I suspect" that he has to play him self twice each time imagining he is looking at the other actor, in this case him self, then time the words he has to speak, and then over lap the film recording track with the other and blend them together to create two characters who are engaging in dialog with each other.
1 dislike? Lore....
Data ... great character. Super actor. 🌲🌝☘️
Seems like Geordi and Data are brilliant people in real life too.
Thanks for sharing this!
in case you want to skip, watch the part with 5:46
💁♂️🚬"A monk, a clone, and a Ferengi decide to go bowling together..." 😂 gets me every time...
Star trek the Next generation is to me, the best tv show, period.
Data looking badass at 3:51.
"Did anyone else notice the incorrectly labeled scene from "Measure of a Man." It was labeled 'A Matter of Honor'."
I just noticed that for the first time. I was about to point it out.
0:27 I NEED AN HD GIF OF THIS IN MY LIFE
In his defense that first season of TNG is rough.
I don't even watch Star Trek, more of a Star Wars fan myself. But I do love Data, he's just so adorable!
this is very interesting and i can barely even remember watching TNG.
Go watch itt
Loved Brent as data
I really wish we got a new star trek series. With the quality of Generations/Voyager but done with today's CGI and film techniques.
That would be ideal. I seen promos of Discovery but it looks really boring and overly dark. I would much prefer a Generation\Voyager mix type of show. With priority being acting, writing, compelling stories and amazing characters over just fancy action\CGI stuff or just being dark and bleak like a lot of sci-fi these days.
data in a hoodie :)
Data says he has no emotions or feelings, but even early on, he experiences wonder and the enjoyment of it. He even expressed want, the want to feel. Is that not an emotion. Is it a need in the way he needs energy to survive or is it an emotional need?
He was something big in Season Four because I own the DVD box set. He was giddy in the bonus features about how since DS9 was the Alpha Quadrant's show, he owned the Alpha Quadrant now. I remember him smirking about that.
Fine, but Kirk shouldn't have died, and even if they just HAD to kill him off, they should have done it in a manner that Riker, Worf, Data, and the crew could have seen it and witnessed such heroism, like Data did except the TNG crew should have had a viewscreen shot of it.
This is from the season 6 DVD features
You should judge Ronald Moore on how well he writes, not on who he kills off.
Kirk was the best character in all of Trek, but to make a story good you can't rely on the same characters forever. The show loses realism and depth of all the characters are invincible. Thats one of the traits that make BSG such an incredibly well written story. I mean Ronald Moore won a fucking Peabody award for his storytelling of BSG.
If anything, Moore helped Star Trek maintain it's reputation of being excellent.
Data is a true Superman. To be an "ubermensch" is not about having extraordinary abilities like Data's or Clark Kent's, it's about character. ENTIRELY about character. Khan Noonien Singh was not a Superman. BRAINIAC 4.0(James Marsters; SMALLVILLE) is not a superman however he is an android like Data. BRAINIAC 5 was much more like Data in character admitting his wrongdoings of the past and serving as a "temporal agent" in what I like to call the Superhero Coalition. Commander Data serves a different kind of coalition, the United Federation of Planets(UFP) as an officer in the Federation Starfleet.
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD
Wow, it's crazy to see Ron Moore as a non-neckbeard.
I couldn't agree more c:
LOL @ 8:33. Brent, y u so funni????
Well I'm glad Brent Spiner didn't say no.
Apollo13 music? :)
Anyone know where to get the pic at 3:54?
No problem! He's way awesome.
You could say playing an android at that time was..
Most unusual HEHEHEHEH
Man, RDM was only a TNG producer for the last couple of seasons!
Yeah, I saw that. It makes me wonder how they made that mistake XD
Does anyone know what episode the pictures from 5:02 are from? Please and thank you.
"Fait accompli" is French, not Latin.
Yeah, but he wrote the story for Generations. That's my jaundice that I have with Ronald Moore.
If I'm not mistaken, he was in on the success of DS9 with Ira Steven Behr. Now that was a show. I think it could have been better if Avery Brooks' performance wasn't so mechanical.
Dude is that the reading rainbow guy!
yes it is
I suppose you could just screencap it and save it. XD For a better quality picture, I don't know. Maybe google it?
Data ~ Geordie relationship just works period.
Hn.
DataxGeordi.
"They are a great model for--for friendship."
Friendship, shonen-ai...what's the difference?
[doesn't actually ship that, demo...]
fortheloveofLDS
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
SHONEN AI
(Why am I replying to a comment from 8 years ago)
Gene Rodenberry in great new bio (All About Jeffrey hunter) at amazon!
Wow. So weird seeing Ron Moore with short hair, and without a smoke hanging from his lip.
my favorite chatacter
brent spiner i'll do the pilot because i needed some dough...
that's relatable for everyone.
we all need dough.
Geordi, would you please stop talking, I'm getting goosebumps! *___*
Nice find
Brent Spiner playing Mark Zuckerberg long before Mark was born
I like Data!
we already knew he had an evil brother before brothers
@Rensune Lore should've been more 'evil'
Engines big real thing out on land
French is in the category of Latin languages.
aww, levar is crying =)
Dose that make me more human
Can anybody think of an actor of his generation, or any, that could have been Data? D.D.Lewis, Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, and even Gary Oldman could not have done it, think I. Discuss! MAybe Andy Kaufman, at his best. I don't know. One of Televisions, and even 20th century Americana culture's best fictional characters, so say I.
that music...
Why is Kunta Kinte flying the Starship Enterprise ?
TOO MANY RICKS!
yeah, cuz god forbid anyone use a word that everyone else doesnt know, it might make them curious and want to learn about it more, and we cant have that, can we?
I believe that's Birthright ( S6 Ep16 & 17), but I'm uncertain if it's from part I or II.
TNG was the best Star Trek ever.
Engine sleep chamber
Lol theirs one dislike maybe that's one of his brothers XD
data is candaian
Screen shots couple 1000 robotics want there be real data thinking process save lives
Data vioce like nutrel engine
You say to make a story good, one cannot rely on the same characters forever. Well, that's EXACTLY what Ronald Moore did in Generations, and that's why the movie sucked. He could have written a story that omitted Kirk's presence. There was no need to "pass the batton" anyway. Didn't they listen to Kirk's final monologue in VI?
...is it just me who thinks his mouth is just like Tranduil?
Just you.
Ronald Moore and Brannon Braga suck. They killed Captain Kirk. That's a big no-no.