How to Use Diminished 7th Chords - Music Composition

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • How to use diminished 7th chords. This music composition lesson explains how to construct a diminished 7th chord and how to key reference it, clearing up various common misunderstandings on the way. We explore the diminished 7th chord in each inversion, how to resolve each inversion, look at the most effective approach chords and consider more inventive resolutions and uses of the diminished 7th. Watch this to find out all you need to know about the versatile colourful, chromatic chord known as the diminished 7th.
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    0:00 - Introduction to diminished 7th chords
    0:50 - Constructing and key referencing diminished 7ths
    4:35 - How best to resolve diminished 7th chords
    16:43 - The most effective approach chords to use
    20:23 - More sophisticated tricks and uses
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  • @MusicMattersGB
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    • @renaissanceman165
      @renaissanceman165 3 года назад +1

      Thank you. I'vw been composing and arranging for years, and I like the way you explain it. Even though a diminished seventh chord can be built on any of the individual notes of the chord, the chord name would change. Hence the question of "which name or key does it belong to?". I know the most reliable way is to keep it on the 7th degree of the scale. Or as a former teacher used to say "it has to make musical sense". You've proven that by stating the same thing ,that it has to use "authentic tones". Thank you again! Check it Out! Ciao!!!

    • @renaissanceman165
      @renaissanceman165 3 года назад +1

      I never considered that the minor scale also has a diminished chord on the 2nd degree of the scale. I presume that you are basing that theory on the harmonic minor, and ascending melodic scales, correct? You are indeed stimulating my brain. I regularly employ diminished, and half diminished chords in my compositions for effect, so I'm sure I"ve used them on the second degree of the scale at some point. Thank you for your very enlightening, and engaging teaching style. Check it Out! Ciao!!!

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  • @salahmorsli
    @salahmorsli 3 года назад +33

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  • @grahamfjlaws6108
    @grahamfjlaws6108 4 года назад +15

    I'd never really thought about dim7th chord inversions before, always assuming that each inversion was exactly equivalent to the others. But when looked at from the voice-leading point of view the appropriate inversion is very relevant. Thanks for this thought-provoking video and the wise words.

    • @MusicMattersGB
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  • @amusicveteran
    @amusicveteran 3 года назад +6

    Your generosity with your time and knowledge ALWAYS restores my faith in humanity. You are indeed teaching the world to sing in perfect harmony. I thank you sir.

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  • @viktoriiafedorova
    @viktoriiafedorova 4 года назад +17

    Thank you very much for your videos! I absolutely love the way you explain :)

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  • @nidamozuraite
    @nidamozuraite 4 года назад +14

    This is very clear and helpful. Thank you!

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  • @jenniferdsouza7327
    @jenniferdsouza7327 3 года назад

    Beautifully explained! Especially the resolution. Thanks so much

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  • @larspettereliassen7984
    @larspettereliassen7984 Год назад

    These are some of the musical riddles that I have worked with for many years. What a relief to learn it thoroughly.

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  • @patrickdineen4994
    @patrickdineen4994 4 года назад +1

    Just found your tutorial, so clear, thank you so much Patrick

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  • @pneumachina
    @pneumachina 4 года назад +1

    very instructrive and synthetic. thank you so much!

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  • @dylanapivor3743
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    Truly you're an excellent educator, many thanks for your videos 👌

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  • @tomkirvin4571
    @tomkirvin4571 4 года назад +1

    Excellent lesson! Thank you.

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  • @AkuyaMusic
    @AkuyaMusic 4 года назад

    This is so clear & helpful! Thank you so much!!!!

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  • @MinhPhamGators
    @MinhPhamGators 3 года назад

    This was very helpful. I don't have much formal training, but as I progressed in my guitar playing, I noticed these concepts in the music, but didn't know how or why. This lesson connected the dots, at least for the diminished 7th chord resolution. Thanks.

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  • @dethrali
    @dethrali 2 года назад

    Great video! Thanks for sharing.

    • @MusicMattersGB
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  • @christobelspafford6829
    @christobelspafford6829 4 года назад

    Thankyou Gareth a very good explanation. Very clear and concise.

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  • @newjack2166
    @newjack2166 3 года назад

    Let me please say thank you as well. I had noticed the issue while playing but had never been able to completely grasp the context. Fantastic.

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  • @laura_whittle
    @laura_whittle Год назад

    Wow 😮, brilliant video Gareth…!

  • @SolarMumuns
    @SolarMumuns 4 года назад

    Crystal clear! Thanks so much

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  • @CharlesAustin
    @CharlesAustin 2 года назад

    Thanks for the details !!

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  • @benbazzrea712
    @benbazzrea712 2 года назад

    Excellent video on diminished chords, really loving the content! :) :) :)

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  • @christinemarin4883
    @christinemarin4883 4 года назад

    Great explanation! Thanks.

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    Thanks! Very interesting!

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    @Limbiclesion 4 года назад

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  • @Hellnation13
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    thank you so much for sharing so much information with us

  • @ghazaleatefy2644
    @ghazaleatefy2644 4 года назад

    thank you very very much! it was very simple and helpful.

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  • @Blondesax
    @Blondesax 2 года назад +1

    Very nice! I always get the impression that traditional music theory and jazz approach diminished seventh chords in some very different ways (but naturally, some of the same ways as well). I'm always looking for ways to connect a diminished chord to a diminished scale, and then thinking about the families of chords associated with it.

  • @brianhudson7058
    @brianhudson7058 Год назад

    You teach in such a crystal clear way, thank you so much

    • @MusicMattersGB
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      That’s most kind. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @miwir1248
    @miwir1248 4 года назад

    Very clearly explained!

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  • @patrickcunningham618
    @patrickcunningham618 4 года назад +2

    Brilliant!

    • @MusicMattersGB
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  • @bobsmodelrailways
    @bobsmodelrailways 4 года назад

    Excellent study thank you for sharing. It took me right back to my youth at Leeds College of Music.

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  • @stephen285
    @stephen285 7 месяцев назад

    You are a good man Charley Brown! -I did not realize I have learning to do on minor keys. Happy Holidays!

  • @valentinamant2259
    @valentinamant2259 2 года назад +1

    Hello thanks for this lovely harmony lesson I like it very much thank 🎵🎵🎹

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including details of our online courses and of our exciting Maestros programme. If you value this channel and would like to help us continue to share and develop the content please consider supporting us as a level 1 Maestro by clicking here ruclips.net/channel/UC8yI8P7Zi3yYTsypera-IQgjoin Alternatively you can express your support for the channel by clicking on the Super Thanks button beneath any of our videos. Thank you.

  • @daluxolotunzi9049
    @daluxolotunzi9049 3 года назад

    Wonderful and very clear

    • @MusicMattersGB
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  • @ernstvandijk6342
    @ernstvandijk6342 3 года назад

    Excellent explanation!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

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  • @technic6455
    @technic6455 4 года назад

    Your videos are excellent. please post videos about choral harmonisation with 13th chord, borrowed chords and modulating the chorale to any different key.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including videos about extended chords, borrowed chords, and modulation.

  • @jameslockhart2223
    @jameslockhart2223 7 месяцев назад

    The enharmonic change is a revelation.

  • @RLCH26
    @RLCH26 4 года назад

    Thanks for your time :)

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      It’s a pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @bennetjoseph1956
    @bennetjoseph1956 3 года назад

    Very good explanation

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    @pacoJaco 4 года назад

    Great information 👌

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  • @poucasamiga
    @poucasamiga 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you!!!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  9 месяцев назад

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @brendaboykin3281
    @brendaboykin3281 3 года назад

    Thanx, Maestro 🌹🌹🌹

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      Brilliant. Much to help you at www.mmcourses.co.uk including details of our online courses and of our exciting Maestros programme.

  • @martenbergstrom6893
    @martenbergstrom6893 4 года назад

    You’re the best teacher 🤩

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      That’s very kind. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @JackStevenson5045
    @JackStevenson5045 3 года назад +2

    I like your discussion at the end of using each pitch as a leading tone. I was worried that you would not discuss it.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      That’s great. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @alexauger7828
    @alexauger7828 3 года назад

    Perfect video

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including details of our 25 online courses and of our exciting Maestros programme.

  • @elementrypenguin3116
    @elementrypenguin3116 3 года назад

    You’re a brilliant musician

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      That’s most kind. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including details of our 25 online courses and of our exciting Maestros programme.

  • @srijansrivastava3507
    @srijansrivastava3507 3 года назад

    Thank you so much Sir 🙏

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      That’s most kind. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @tapasghosh1237
    @tapasghosh1237 3 года назад

    Thanks for video sir

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      That’s great. Thanks for your comment. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including our 25 online courses and details of our exciting Maestros programme.

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs Год назад

    Thank You

  • @MelvinbawagVLOGS
    @MelvinbawagVLOGS 4 года назад

    Wooow thank you...

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      It’s a pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @LohPro
    @LohPro 2 года назад +1

    THANK YOU sir so very much for this lesson. I just could not get my head wrapped around enharmonic changes of full dim 7 chords & using them to modulate to other keys. That's such an excellent way to think about them as you show, by "re-spelling" the tone, putting that tone as root, forming authentic minor 3rd intervals & finding its key. Then you may invert the chord as necessary for the chord/key change.
    I believe now, that by using a diminished 7th chord, one could theoretically resolve to nearly any chord? Any of the four tones of a full dim 7 chord may then be used as the leading tone for any scale?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      You’ve got it. It’s an amazingly flexible chord.

  • @LouAdipietro
    @LouAdipietro 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely love and appreciate your delivery and simple easy to underatand approach! I have one question.. hope you can write back. I noticed in the beginning of the video when you were explaining the chords in the minor key you stated chords V and VI are major. Isn't this only for the harmonic minor? As a natural minor will have a minor v chord. And you stated that the III chord is augmented. Thats from harmonic as i understand. Thanks

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      Absolutely correct. Those descriptions relate to harmonic minor (for harmony) but not to melodic or natural minors.

  • @nebbykoo
    @nebbykoo Год назад

    Can you please do a video about the Tristan chords? I love this channel. Thanks!

  • @ahopkins62
    @ahopkins62 4 года назад +19

    Am I right in thinking you mean harmonic minor when talking about the diatonic chords? Natural minor chords would be different (m, dim, M, m, m, M, M)?

    • @mattowen1242
      @mattowen1242 4 года назад +4

      Yeah. He talks about the iii chord being augmented and it’s augmented if you raise the seventh scale degree. In a natural minor key, the III chord is major.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад +11

      Absolutely. I’m referencing to harmonic minor.

    • @justinbowerman6043
      @justinbowerman6043 3 года назад

      @@MusicMattersGB that confused me too, i was thinking in terms of natural minor, and i was like WAIT WHAT???

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад +2

      If you’re talking harmony harmonic minor is often the place to start.

    • @michaeldematteis9944
      @michaeldematteis9944 2 года назад

      Kind of confused about the dim in the key of c hecwas talking about.i know there's a dim triad but if you add the 7 a note would be half dim

  • @amotkram99
    @amotkram99 4 года назад +2

    So in visual terms on the keyboard, considering the augmented 2nd theory, you can resolve the chord to a major or minor chord 1 semi tone above any note in the chord? And depending on the context that led to the dim7, the resolution will be dramatic or smooth?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      That wouldn’t work for ANY note of the chord but depending on how you spell the chord there are many possibilities for resolution. Let the voice leading direct you.

  • @JackStevenson5045
    @JackStevenson5045 3 года назад

    i really like the idea of “authentic” minor thirds

  • @regroberts325
    @regroberts325 4 года назад +1

    clear and concise explanations ,well done ,now wheres my piano !!!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      Great stuff. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @timovertoom1655
    @timovertoom1655 Год назад

    Bedankt

  • @palutalu
    @palutalu 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video, this has been so useful in understanding this topic. The first time through I got slightly confused, but I left it a day and just watched through again, and now it makes sense!.
    I just have one question:
    Relating to what you show towards the end of the video, how by choosing which note in the minor 7th chord you want to represent the 1st scale degree of the chord, you can then determine various different suitable chords for it to resolve to, and so resolve it to a chord in a different key to the one in which the minor 7th was approached. In this context, is it right to refer to the minor 7th as a 'pivot chord'? And it it common/acceptable practice to use minor 7ths in this way to move from one key to another?
    Many thanks once again
    Paul
    EDIT: You tube just recommended to me you video on "Modulation using Diminished 7ths" in which you answer this!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      That’s great because hopefully that second video answers your great question. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including details of our online courses and of our exciting Maestros programme.

  • @kittikhunsodprasert5841
    @kittikhunsodprasert5841 2 года назад

    This is only real Maestro who can clarify complicated content in an simple way and straight forward. 🙏🙏🙏
    Thank you
    Prof. Green

  • @lfr230
    @lfr230 3 года назад

    Thank you for tour video. You say that the thirds have to be authentic to have the root of the 7dim chord. At 22:08, you suggest changing the Ab note into G# and then modulate to Amin or A Maj. But if you are in A Maj, your chord is not authentic because the note F in the chord should be F#. Do we agree that you then modulate only to Aminor?
    Kind regards

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      This example applies both to A major and to A minor because a chromatic chord often contains notes that don’t belong to the key but is still a chord that can function in that key, hence adding colour and tension - the purpose of using a chromatic chord. So, to confirm it’s the Diminished 7th chord for both A major and A minor.

  • @sega62s
    @sega62s 3 года назад

    at 7;32 I am getting lost....., I got to get more infos on this matter 🍻 Thank you for this great lesson

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад +1

      A pleasure. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including details of our 25 online courses and of our exciting Maestros programme.

  • @DiZedQuest
    @DiZedQuest 4 года назад +1

    Stumbled upon your videos and what an excellent explanation and one of my favorite chords (Dim7th). But I leave you with a question you might want to go back to your circle of fifths video. Why is it that every one insists that the circle of 5ths is always presented in this form i.e. "F-C-G7-Dm-Am-Em-BØ-F#-C# etc." as a cheap trick to find accidentals? When the circle is self explanatory, it is a circle which which denotes normal chordal movement backwards and forwards and the function of the BØ is the link which prevents modulation and a perfect explanation of the leading tone
    !!!! Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      Thanks for your comments. Glad you’re enjoying the videos. I see your point. I like to see the circle of 5ths more flexibly in that one can alter accidentals in moving by 5ths, thus enabling modulation to a broader range of keys.

  • @Benjybass
    @Benjybass 2 года назад

    At 20:23, another trick is to use the diminished chord as a "pivot window" which allows you to modulate between 2 very distant keys, say C minor to E major. All one has to do is to raise or lower just ONE of ANY of the 4 notes and then resolve the chord to the target modulation. For ex: Play C minor (C, Eb, G, C), then lower the G to Gb (C, Eb, Gb, A) which will give you C dim , and finally lower the C to a B: (B, Eb [or D #], F# [or Gb], and A). The new chord becomes the dominant 7th of E major: B, D#, F#, A. This method is comparable to the saying " The shortest distance between any 2 points is a straight line".

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      Great example. It’s an amazingly flexible chord.

  • @mtaur4113
    @mtaur4113 3 года назад

    Lately I've been using ii - iio7/V as a spicy ii - V. Maybe I use it a bit too much. It's not the only way to ii - V but it sure is addicting. Or maybe that's just Vb9, who knows? My only thought is that the diminished notation is more suggestive of how to spread out the voices.

  • @darkyangel99
    @darkyangel99 Год назад

    Dear Gareth, thank you for being such a great teacher! it will be a great honor if you can explain WHY "Dim 7 OF V" in C major is F# A C Eb, instead of Fb Abb Cbb Ebbb?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      That’s most kind. Build any diminished 7th on chord VII then add a minor 3rd on top. VII in G (V of C in this case) is F# A C. Then add Eb on top and you’ve got it.

    • @darkyangel99
      @darkyangel99 Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB many thanks! Does it mean that one should treat the VII of G as in G major instead of C major so that one could get F# instead of F?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      Absolutely

  • @barkerdavies8753
    @barkerdavies8753 4 года назад

    At 9:12 you have drawn presumably a diminished 7th on the grand staff, but you're showing a D and an A flat on the treble clef and a B and F on the bass clef. This is confusing to me - is this just for illustration only and should the lower staff be a treble clef also? Please elaborate. Thank you for this channel, it has been very helpful to me overall ...

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      The Diminished 7th chord is BDFAb but you can organise the notes in any order. It is both treble and bass clefs in this example.

  • @Ashtree81
    @Ashtree81 3 года назад +1

    1:50 To clairify for people, he is talking about Harmonic minor.
    In Natural minor,
    5 is a minor chord not major
    7 is major not dim
    3 is major not augmented

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 4 года назад

    I've noticed in my own works that a diminished seventh works well as a chromatic approach *from* a minor key *to* a major key a whole step below, like this:
    Soprano: G -> Ab -> Bb
    Alto: Eb -> F -> F
    Tenor: Eb -> D -> D
    Bass: C -> B -> Bb
    C minor to Bb major modulation in just a few chords
    But, am I really using a diminished seventh there, that's what I'm wondering. I mean, spelling wise, I am, but is it really functioning like a diminished seventh? Hmm, well, B goes to Bb and Ab goes to Bb. Wait a second, there is another chord built from overlapping tritones that does exactly that, the French Augmented Sixth. But, the French Augmented Sixth of Bb wouldn't have both D and F in it's spelling, would it? So, is it a common tone diminished seventh? Is it an atypical augmented sixth?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      Notated the way you have it it seems to be a Diminished 7th but arguably it could be an Augmented 6th if spelt differently. This is the great thing about both the Diminished 7th and the Augmented 6th chords - you can be inventive and flexible with them by re-spelling notes.

  • @davidboman9657
    @davidboman9657 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great video. Hoping you can clarify something for me. You say at the top that the quality of the diatonic chords in a minor scale are the following:
    1, 4: minor
    5, 6: major
    2, 7: diminished
    3: augmented
    But based on the natural minor scale, wouldn't it be:
    1, 4, 5: minor
    b3, b6, b7: major
    2: diminished
    What am I missing? Thank you!

    • @davidboman9657
      @davidboman9657 3 года назад

      Ah! I understand, you're talking about harmonic minor! That makes sense.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад +1

      Yes. Harmonic minor on the basis that harmony usually comes from the harmonic minor scale.

    • @fishoscine1220
      @fishoscine1220 2 года назад

      This racked my brain too! Wish you'd have specified it was harmonic minor and not natural, which I think most would assume if not specified. Lesson learnt, don't assume. Great video though, other than that confusion. Thanks.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      😀

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 2 года назад +1

    While this makes perfect sense, I'm too early in my music education to need to worry about this. But I'll come back to this as I progress.
    I think I'm going to look for some aspirin.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

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  • @churnyeechong2427
    @churnyeechong2427 9 часов назад

    is consecutive perfect fourth on the treble voices allowed when progresses from 3rd inversion of diminished seventh chord?

  • @alanweston6425
    @alanweston6425 Год назад

    Hi Gareth,
    I found this video very useful but found it difficult to apply it to Mozart's Piano Concerto 24 in Cm. In bar 16 the chord being played by
    the ensemble is made up of C, Eb, F# and A natural notes (note: C is being played by the cellos and bases).
    Now I initially identified this as a Cdim7 chord but taking into account that this could be an inversion, guided by your video,
    the Eb and F# suggest an augmented 2nd and not an authentic minor 3rd. So 'unpacking, it could be F#dim7 in 2nd inversion i.e. C in the bass.
    Bars 13, 14 and 15 are in Cm i.e. no cadences to a relative key (as far as I can see!) prior to bar 16.
    But F#dim7 isn't in the key of C minor, when Bdim7 is (that by the way appears in the next bar). If you have access to a score how would you identify
    the diminished 7th in bar 16?
    Cheers,
    Alan

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      I haven’t got a score handy but I’m pretty sure you’re right that it’s an inversion of the dim 7th built on F#. This would make it a dim 7th in the key of G. The chord of G is the dominant chord of C minor so it’s the dim 7th of the dominant. Mozart loves to use this trick.

  • @stephen285
    @stephen285 7 месяцев назад

    So your video has me thinking, my question is why can't you just always see every song as a major song? Is there some advantage gained grouping songs into major vs minor? Thanks!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  7 месяцев назад

      Major tonality feels different from minor tonality so they create ideal contrast.

  • @luisantoniocarrillotejas8236
    @luisantoniocarrillotejas8236 4 года назад +2

    Hey, sorry if I'm wrong but, as I know, in the minor key I, IV and V are minors; II is diminished; and III, VI and VII are majors, why did you say another things when you were talking about the minor scales?
    Amazing video btw, very helpful

    • @oldepersonne
      @oldepersonne 4 года назад +2

      He's using the harmonic minor

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад +1

      Glad it's helpful. Just to clarify - I’m using the Harmonic Minor scale ie Harmonic Minor for harmony, where ll and Vll are the Diminished chords. The general western classical convention is that we use harmonic minor for harmony and melodic minor for melody but of course the natural minor is another option.

    • @luisantoniocarrillotejas8236
      @luisantoniocarrillotejas8236 4 года назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Oh ok, thanks

  • @kpec3
    @kpec3 3 года назад

    If you want to hear diminished and half dimished 7ths, Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy has loads of them.

  • @gtrdoc911
    @gtrdoc911 3 года назад

    I don't understand why the Ab to B is considered an augmented 2nd and not a minor third as the minor third in an Abmin chord is B. Can u explain please?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      Ab to Cb is a minor 3rd but Ab to B is an augmented 2nd. They sound the same but look different.

  • @jernejperdan3178
    @jernejperdan3178 2 года назад

    I understand that diminished chords are build by stacking minor third intervals, but that means that diminished 7th chord is not a diatonic chord, because it uses flattened 7th in major scale/key. In example presented Bdim7 in C major is build as B - D - F - bA, but C major has A as 7th tone. I get that bA creates 'pull' but shouldn't Bdim7 in C major be B - D - F - A or am I missing something?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      There’s a difference between VII7 and Diminished 7th. In C major BDFA is VII7 but BDFAb is diminished 7th.

  • @mershymarsh
    @mershymarsh 4 года назад +1

    how does one determine augmented 2nd vs minor 3rd?

    • @CultureFusionSite
      @CultureFusionSite 4 года назад

      I would guess the context of the composition.

    • @markchapman6800
      @markchapman6800 4 года назад +2

      The note names determine the interval. Any A to any B is always a second, any A to any C is always a third. Ab to B natural is an augmented second, Ab to Cb is a minor third. G# to B natural is also a minor third, but one which implies a totally different key, while still being the same notes on the piano.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад +1

      Absolutely

    • @mershymarsh
      @mershymarsh 4 года назад

      @@markchapman6800 Thanks! Now what if I don't have any context, no sheet music in front of me, and simply play an isolated chord? Won't there be some chords with multiple names?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      Sure.

  • @lfr230
    @lfr230 3 года назад

    At 9:18 your resolution contents 2 parallel fifths (B-Ab follower by C-G). I thought the parallel fifths /octaves should be avoided.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      B-Ab to C-G does not give parallel 5ths because B-Ab is a diminished 7th. Parallel 5ths only come about when you have a perfect 5th between two parts followed by another perfect 5th between the same pair of parts.

  • @pdkett1
    @pdkett1 4 года назад +3

    Great instructional vid, but you say at 1.57 that the 2 & 7 chords in Minor are diminished- this is wrong. Only the 2 in Natural Minor diminished. 7 is Major. You are probably confusing them with with the Harmonic & Melodic Mnor scales when harmonized.as three and four note chords.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад

      Thanks. Just to clarify - I’m using the Harmonic Minor scale ie Harmonic Minor for harmony, where ll and Vll are the Diminished chords.

    • @pdkett1
      @pdkett1 4 года назад +1

      @@MusicMattersGB Yes, I figured that, but do you even mention 'Harmonic Minor' even once? Generally, when talking about Minor- 'Natural Minor' is implied (It is in music schools anyway.) That's why those other scales have different names (they're different from the Natural Minor) How confusing do you think that is for theory beginners? that have no knowledge of the Harmonic and Melodic Minor scales?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад +1

      The general convention is that we use harmonic minor for harmony and melodic minor for melody but of course the natural minor is another option.

    • @v.n.guptmusic3224
      @v.n.guptmusic3224 3 года назад

      Yes, in Natural Minor scale ditonic chords are m, dim, M, m,m, M, M. This is the theory I know.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      Absolutely

  • @octopusjjsnook
    @octopusjjsnook 2 года назад

    How do you distinguish an augmented second from a minor third?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      C to D# sounds the same as C to Eb. The former is an augmented 2nd; the latter is a minor 3rd. Count from the lower note to the upper note so C to D is a 2nd, while C to E is a 3rd.

    • @BlessedOne686
      @BlessedOne686 Год назад

      Yh I stumbled on this point.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      😀

  • @user-vk9dp2yu7o
    @user-vk9dp2yu7o 3 года назад

    In a minor key?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      Or a major key. The Diminished 7th is based on chord Vll, which is the same chord for the major or parallel minor key.

  • @timsmith190
    @timsmith190 3 года назад

    I'm confused with determining the key and root position of Dim. 7chords. Consider the notes E, Db, G, Bb.; This is a root position E dim7 from the key of F harmonic minor? Same pitches as A#, E, C#, G.; This is a root position A# dim7 from the key of B harmonic minor? This chord is in both keys? How do I know how to name the notes Db or C# and Bb of A#?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад +1

      A Dim 7th is always a collection of minor 3rds or their enharmonic equivalent augmented 2nd. To place a Dim 7th in root position organise it so you can see genuine minor 3rds (ie no augmented 2nds) eg BDFAb. This will be based on chord Vll in the prevailing key. So this example is based on Vll in the key of C.

    • @timsmith190
      @timsmith190 Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Does this mean that when naming the chord you do not use bb (double flat) notes?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      You could use a double flat in the case of an extreme key as long as you can place genuine minor 3rds, as explained above. For example Bbb Dbb Fbb Abbb. As you can see it’s extreme!

  • @judithfrechinger1712
    @judithfrechinger1712 3 года назад

    11:29 sounds good but wouldn't the F want to resolve to Eb?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      It could do but the principle outlined is that the outer notes of the original chord pull inwards while the other two notes resolve in the middle.

    • @judithfrechinger1712
      @judithfrechinger1712 3 года назад

      @@MusicMattersGB THNAK YOU!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      😀

  • @TeaNoSugar87
    @TeaNoSugar87 4 года назад

    My understanding was that the chords of the minor scale go minor, diminished, major, minor, minor, major, major, minor. The same as the relative major but beginning at the 6th scale degree. How is this not the case?
    Edit: Is it harmonic minor?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  4 года назад +1

      Yes it’s harmonic minor. In music following the broad conventions we use the harmonic minor scale for harmony but it’s always the case that the harmonic and melodic minors interact therefore there might be a mixture of chord possibilities in minor keys.

    • @chrislight1712
      @chrislight1712 3 года назад

      Tee, you were correct in your first statement.The chord built on the 7th step in the minor mode is a Major chord. Ex. in A-m the chord (triad) is G-B-D, pure Major...

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      In the harmonic minor it’s G#BD. Harmonic minor is so called because it’s about harmony/ chords. You might sometimes use a different form of minor scale but the harmonic minor is the standard default position.

    • @chrislight1712
      @chrislight1712 3 года назад

      ​@@MusicMattersGBYou talked about the diatonic scale, and the Major chord pattern of M-m-m-M-M-m-d. The minor (aeolian) mode simply begins on the sixth step of the Major scale, and the pattern cycles through. m-d-M-m-m-M-M. That principle does not render and additional dim. chord, an augmented, nor a Maj. five chord. These are the triads I'm finding fault with, and I do understand to create a full dim. that you have go non-diatonic. I do consider myself a student and realize there may be something I'm missing. I lean towards jazz and learned not to play natural minor descending on a melodic minor scale, unless you want to.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      In jazz you will often be working in modes. I’m using the harmonic minor scale because in the Western tradition from 1600 we use the harmonic minor for harmony and the melodic minor for melody - hence the names. Every harmonic minor scale from it’s tonic follows the pattern
      Minor
      Diminished
      Augmented
      Minor
      Major
      Major
      Diminished

  • @Koyomi112
    @Koyomi112 Год назад +1

    bIII in a minor key is a major chord, not augmented
    the natural minor scale consists of the chords i7 iim7b5 bIIImaj7 iv7 v7 bVImaj7 bVII7

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      We’re working in the harmonic minor here so for example lll in A minor is CEG#, which is an augmented chord.

    • @Koyomi112
      @Koyomi112 Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Okay but then you should clarify it better coz minor key doesnt necessarily point to harmonic minor. I can very easily assume you are talking about hungarian minor in that way. Thanks for the explanation and please clarify a bit more in the future. I do like your lessons and hence why i am subscribed. Good luck for all the future vids

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад +1

      That’s great. There is reference to harmonic minor in the video but of course there are options between harmonic melodic and natural minor.

    • @Koyomi112
      @Koyomi112 Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB And the other types of minor scales as well

    • @Koyomi112
      @Koyomi112 Год назад

      Like hungarian and neapolitan minor

  • @khiemngo1098
    @khiemngo1098 3 года назад

    Is chord 7 always diminished ? Chord 7 of C minor is [Bb D F], the distance between Bb and D is not a minor third. Thanks!

    • @dillonheck801
      @dillonheck801 3 года назад +1

      It’s using harmonic minor. Natural minor would have the major VII.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад +1

      Absolutely.

  • @thedolphin5428
    @thedolphin5428 8 месяцев назад

    I'd say the best way to learn about Dim7s is to listen to J.S.B. !

  • @sksigil
    @sksigil 3 года назад

    OK I'm thoroughly confused now.
    I always thought half diminished 7th was part of the major key and full diminished 7th was part of the minor key.
    Why are we flattening the 7th of the diminished chord in the major key? Where does that Ab come from in the B diminished 7th in C major?? I don't get it :( :(

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      It’s best not to confuse half diminished with diminished 7th. The diminished 7th chord is the same in relation to its tonic major key as it is to its tonic minor key. We have a video on the half diminished if you want to compare.

    • @sksigil
      @sksigil 3 года назад

      @@MusicMattersGB yes I have watched the half diminished chord video and it was quite helpful - I think I was confused because I learnt about 7th chords from jazz and you just stack thirds to create the 7th chords which includes the half diminished. But I guess in classical we need stacked minor 3rds to create the diminished chord, which is why the 7th is flattened?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      Absolutely. Also the resolution of the b7 pulls down a semitone in conventional treatment both in the context of a major key and a minor key.

  • @jonathankibiki8897
    @jonathankibiki8897 4 года назад

    Good, I like it can I have a copy?

  • @user-vk9dp2yu7o
    @user-vk9dp2yu7o 3 года назад

    Harmonic minor

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      😀 Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including details of our 25 online courses and of our exciting Maestros programme.

  • @mishioedward808
    @mishioedward808 3 года назад +1

    I am in the process of watching your video; it looks interesting; however, I just want to say (before I continue) please try to let us know which of the minor scales or diatonic chords you are referring to (Natural, Harmonic or Melodic) when u say minor scale. The reason why I say this is because, my mind goes through a rough patch (subconsciously) trying to figure out which minor scale u talking about when u talk about minor scale. I normally assume you talking about Natural minor when u talk about minor scale; but, when I think deeply about it, I realize u most probably talking about the harmonic minor scale. Please put my mind to rest just by letting us know which minor scale u talking about from start.
    Thanks! 🙂🙏🏽
    (Back to the video!)

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      Harmonic minor is the standard default position for harmony/ chords.

  • @tenin4919
    @tenin4919 3 года назад +1

    1.32

  • @addressadam
    @addressadam 3 года назад

    Hi!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад

      Thank you. Glad you are part of the journey.

    • @addressadam
      @addressadam 3 года назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Thanks, i write songs and you've inspired me to think more about changing the chords to have better voice leading. Can I ask a question? Do different keys sound different (other than the obvious)? are they each different amounts away from their just intonation in different intervals. I know it would be subtle. But sometimes putting a song in a better vocal key, makes it feel different.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  3 года назад +1

      Songs can sound different in different keys but of course the intervals and chords within a key equate.

    • @addressadam
      @addressadam 3 года назад

      ​@@MusicMattersGB Cool. I wondered if there was some deep tuning theory reason. Like If I took a 5/4 ratio of 440hz to get the 3rd. And then compared that frequency to the actual 12tone third frequency. that this difference between the just intonation frequency and the 12tone frequency might change with different keys. I assume you know what I mean, im probs overthinking it. lol And Im not good at maths.

    • @addressadam
      @addressadam 3 года назад

      Thanks for the reply btw :)

  • @chriscopeman8820
    @chriscopeman8820 3 года назад

    I'd prefer if you specified which minor scale you're talking about here.

  • @RichardFerrini-uv4jr
    @RichardFerrini-uv4jr 10 месяцев назад +1

    SHOW THE DIAGRAM OF THE B-DIM7

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  10 месяцев назад +1

      You can see the chord in the video