Cbet flop for 12k, jamming over a check raise, just stuff it back in his face on the flop. If he has you beat you have plenty of equity. Not giving him a chance to catch whatever bs he might have. As played I’m calling 70k on the river, what is he repping? Basically TT only I think. His bet looks like he wants you to fold AK or a similar weak 1 pair hand.
bro you kill it on your thought process in hand progression. As always thanks for your service, had a few deep runs this year colossus broke my heart, but I'll get it one day soon hopefully
In Hand 1 it seems like the Euro villain is over-valuing a straight. Perhaps he has a single T with an 8 or 9. Pocket TT’s, or KT with the K of hearts. Just because you would do this polarizing river bet with only a flush or a bluff, doesn’t mean opponent will have the same thought process.
If an amateur could force a pro into a 0 EV coin flip decision every hand, they'd be the best poker player in the world. That is generally THE point of poker strategy is making your opponent indifferent.
@@PhonyBologna Fairly obvious he means always try to get into coin flip spots with them. Like jamming when you have a huge combo draw even if they could have a set.
@@Jermo484 Again, your example is simply good poker. You get better to fold, and you have solid chances if they don't fold. Making them indifferent... so just good poker. Lol, do I need to repeat myself?
@@Jermo484 Name a situation where its bad versus a semi-balanced range? It will generate folds vs a pro's bluffing range and even if the pro calls off correctly they aren't out of the woods. And don't give me the 'well on double paired boards' BS, and 'well if you also jam all this other stuff to make your range overly week, and artificially add stuff to make a point. Pair + flush draws make great bluffs, often even if your flush draw is behind a bigger flush draw, your pair may be good. It is near impossible to go wrong. Its like jamming a set on the flop on a draw heavy board. Sure not the best way to play it, but it isn't ever horrendous.
1) For the AA hand, 1/3 Cbet would be the best option. If you are called or raised, you are done with the hand. 2) For the JJ hand, there is no reason to three bet an opponent that has you covered 3 to 1. Just calling and seeing flop is the best option.
If he check raises then I Jam with backdoors and outs to the nuts. Of course it's differnet in the main event but I would have been using my position and equity to blast away
Come on Bart if a caller called in with AA hand you be all over him for not playing right, especially in a tournament you have AA and with a beautiful flop you are trying to make bare minimum or looking forward to fold it on the river which you did and if you did push on the river why would he call you on the river, sorry that's crazy. In a tournament with AA it's double up or nothing. But I like your analysis of caller's hands. Main event is a donkeyrama anyway.
There’s been a lot of talk I’ve come across in comments about JJ in cash games and I think it holds true in tournaments. When you 3-bet with JJ, you run the risk of getting blown off your equity before you see the flop. I think in tournaments, if you have your opponent covered, 3 bet away with the intention of calling a shove. But if not, gotta be careful when your tournament life is at stake.
AAh is the top of H range that checks back flop and calls turn so for that reason I think u have to call. If he’s smart he knows your capped after checking back flop and can turn pairs and AKo into bluffs leveraging his bigger stack
I was in a similar situation with similar effective stack sizes, though I was in a later position. I had about 38bb with JJ. I 3b to 10bb from the CO and was jammed on by the BB. The BB had done this to me a couple times, where I would raise from a late position and he would 3b huge, and I'd fold. I ended up snapping with JJ and he showed 77, and ended up winning a huge pot and it propelled me to a final table run during last year's WSOP (though I was playing at the Nugget, they had a nice value). I feel like sometimes, making a stand is important especially if you have a nitty table image. I had been folding and playing very few hands up to that point.
This is why I call more than raise. I always think about what I'll do if I get raised/shoved on. If I'm not confident that I'll call, I don't raise. I've found that it seems to save me more money in the long run (at 1/3; 2/5) than I would make by raising those same hands.
Regarding the JJs hand, I put it in equilab and against a range of AA, KK, QQ, 10s and AK (suited and unsuided) JJs has 44 % and you need around 41%. To me it's too thin for my tournament life but some people say "Hey you have to win flips".
With the Aces I think that's why the solver wants you to bet small, it makes all the misses fold and tries to better define your opponents range giving him the chance to check raise etc. Then if you want to go with it with the Ace of hearts
@@SoulfightPoker A solver doesn't really take any "higher" concepts into consideration. "The solver takes this line because of..." is almost never a correct statement by any means (though it might be a very useful sentence, for example it might make you consider some principle which is useful (for example the said principle might help you figuring out solver lines)). The only thing a solver "knows" are EV (and or some related concept(s)), equities and the game tree. So your sentence says nothing. (Not defending what the first guy said.)
@@MarkusMuller-ks4pp what I was trying to say was don't play checkers here, you bet small with the the nut blocker, already kinda of knowing do we call off or jam if he raises - because we already know that's is a possibility
Jacks is tricky and i’m not great at poker but 40bbs effective vs an honest UTG range can you not flat JJ here in position on the raiser and use your cash game post flop edge? Sure it sets you up for squeezes but if someone does you get the same info and can make the decision to back raise if UTG folds to someone else 3 betting?
So not a fan of the check back on the turn, with the aces and the heart. I make it 20k preflop, as he is calling wide, and 25k flop bet, jam turn. Your check on turn gave him control of the pot, and you played it weak. He sensed that, and took advantage. Should never have gotten there. That being said, you have the right fold on the river. Also, listening to your channel and blackrain’s has helped my game tremendously, and I thank you for the excellent content. Have an awesome weekend!!
Hand 1: Bad flop for our overall range, decent for our exact hand. Guess we do a lot of checking here. Holding Ah, great candidate for a xb. Easy call on turn. River is just a fold IMO. Can’t find many bluffs on that runout.
For hand one. You definitely could have Cbet/delayed CBet small ish to protect yourself from the countless scare cards. But the river fold is almost definite. Hand two almost definitely should have been a call/jam pre. If you are always calling in that same spot with any AK then JJ, which is better, should definitely be a call.
6 minutes in for me, On these boards, Ive heard Negreanu talk about how Addamo goes for a range tiny bet (like 2-2.5bbs) and that its solver approved. I guess it works even better on like a K83hhh board instead of this one.. but the strategy still make sense I think. Its probably more complex on boards like yours where there are more continues though. Already an interesting spot.
on the JJ hand. if you have no read on brandons game, i think in the main event on the cusp of making the money opponents are VERY VERY much more likely to be jamming AA-QQ here than they otherwise should be. a lot of the field is just trying to make the money and arent concerned at all with maximizing value on their big hands. id fold here EASILY against an unknown.
With the Aces hand I think not betting flop is a big mistake. You have the Ace of hearts for backdoor equity making it highly unlikely anything but a nut hand (like a made straight) would ever raise you. By betting small on the flop you get a lot of information. Most hands like KQ of diamonds or even K hearts queen of diamonds or one pair straight draw hands, one pair heart draw hands, over pairs, etc. are at best just going to call you and try to see a cheap showdown and maybe hope to improve. But if you check this board on the flop ALL of the speculative hands which probably would either call or just get out of the way of this very scary board are now going to be inspired to bluff making your situation super tough. I would snap fold to a raise because of ICM considerations.
I like a check on the flop with AA especially with the A of hearts, if we bet at get raised it's a miserable spot because we block his main bluffing candidate, sure we always have equity but i feel as if his raises would be weighted towards value since we have Ah and we don't really want to get in in vs sets and flopped straights. I think we check call down hoping for a clean runnout, the way the board ran out i find it hard for him tl have too many bluffs and i think he absolutely could go for value with just a 10 as its very unlikely we have a flush as played.
Yeah I agree, miserable spot with red AA, blocking some of villains most obvious bluffs. I do like a small cbet OTF (maybe B 15 or somewhere in that range), if he calls we just x evaluate turns and rivers. But as played and the way the board ran out, have to imagine this is a high % fold to river jam. If river is a brick like 2s we probably call a lot more.
Given your reasoning of the pre-flop raise size and reasoning, I think you should just bomb flop and jam turn, honestly. Hope he calls with some combo draw or pair.
Hand 2: Flat pre wouldn’t be too bad. You have only 69k left after 3betting, so jamming is the only move for villain besides folding, no? Not sure we can weight it less towards AA/KK because he jammed. Think fold is correct again. His range is {QQ+, AK}.
I think for the second hand you’re flipping at best. Taking into consideration your image (you’ve played tight and haven’t gotten out of line, no reason for him to think you’re doing this light), he’s doing this UTG, the pot odds are bad, ICM, and the likelihood that he’s not doing this with anything worse (unless it’s AK, in which case you’re flipping for your tournament life). This feels like a sigh and fold taking ICM into account. Wait for a better spot
In the AA hand, I would have bet tiny on the flop like 3K or 6k because the board is monotone. It is a very bad run out for your specific hand and I don't know how you could find a call. There are so many combos that have you beat, I would have folded as well as you still had a very nice stack at that time.
JJ seems like a fine fold, if not ez. Hoping he has AK and ur flipping. AA is a crazy hand… I think you have to decide if he bets that size a 10…. But also there’s like no bluff hands haha. Crazy one. Nice vid Bart!
I think the utg open was most likely AK, possibly 10-10-going to disagree that this isn’t a possibility. You are for the most part 50-50 with an asterix giving you a slight edge so given what’s in the pot it is a call. The aces was a fold imo. Ugly flop that warrants a check and try to keep pot as small as possible. Had some heart outs which didn’t come in but likely villain had a 10 and a pair-most likely J-10 but many other possibilities or could have even flopped a straight or flush
I don't know. Folding is probably the right answer since you're a better player than I am, but I would have called this bet from an aggressive Euro player. The board is way too scary for that size. You're just folding all of your overpairs and your range has a ton. If he was betting for value he would have probably bet pot or less so you can call with those overpairs. No?
Guys 2 levels away from the money with 102 BBs, then he ends up with about 112BBs after this hand, yet somehow manages to botch even making the money when hes certainly in the top 30 percentile of chip amounts at that point. Probably top 25 percentile. Thats kinda sad. Most would kill to be in that position. 112 freaking BBs 2 levels away from the money. 😵💫 That would eat at me for a while.
@CrushlivePoker why not bet pot on the flop and 2 cards to go, he either folds or ships it. Either way, 2 cards and you don’t put yourself in the spot you ended up in.
@@jimmymason6893 cash crushers tend to try to maximize value too much in tournaments. Fold equity should be weighted heavier. Can't go broke taking down smaller pots on the flop. it's more of a Harrington-esque survival style than the modern meta
He was 100bb deep and by far the best player at the table and Rigby should have been easy pickings for him. Why gamble? Even if Rigby had a small pair or two random cards. No need to take that spot. Super punt IMHO. I’m sure he agrees if he is being honest with himself.
I'm a nit but I usually bet flop 70 80 percent then jam turn in that spot I've actually had same spot with red kings on 910J diamond flop I hit a king on river and he was disgusted with middle set
its not even worth analyzing the pot odds when you arent even sure he jams tt + your risk premium and tournament life is so valuable, especially in the main. additionally the fact some people are gonna get over excited with AA and KK and just jam those too as opposed to flat or 4b nai
3Bet is too big...even if ur playing tight, at 40bbs eff you should use a sizing that allows OOP 4bet to ~25% of the effective stack. If you made it 15.5k, you retain close to the same FE IP and you allow OOP to go to 30-31k where he can add more 4Bet bluffs. As played you have to fold and give away a decent amount of equity...I'd rather flat than 3Bet/fold in these positions and I really don't like a flat here much. This is the thing that cash players don't get...in MTTs it's very important to use (or allow ur opponent to use) non-allin sizings whenever it's possible to do so.
A win is a win. Pre flop, post flop, 4th street, river. I don't give AF where I win a hand. I would never check that flop to fold AA on the river. What if he had red kings? Probably a missed draw. At best flopped a set. I would of found out by betting 3/4 pot to pot+ on the flop. However insane & lucky players are almost impossible to beat. I'd rather bet strong & fold early than later not certain.
"Found out" he had a set, so that we could get all the money in and go broke...... Also, two red KK isn't turning itself into a bluff on the river, or value-betting.
Happens sometimes. We get bad run-outs. It also saves our stack in a tournament where every chip is the most valuable chip out of every tournament. If this was cash, the flop is a bet all day. If this was a multi entry tournament, this is a bet all day. It happens lol
Jacks is a straight fold. He could have a better pair or even AK - and hit an Ace or King. Tournament life for you. Have to fold as annoying as this is.
My thoughts are some of you pros out think yourselves and get yourself into trouble by giving free cards. I saw many times during final table telecast were the leader was good pre and on the flop and it checked through only to be behind on turn or river. I saw a lot of check ahead on flop or chet flop with nothing. Just my thoughts
I have been in that exact situation with JJ. It's a pure fold. If he has all the AA, KK, QQ and AK, you need about 1.9:1 just to break even. If you eliminate a few combos, you still need about 1.5:1. It's just not worth risking your tournament life for what is, at best, a break-even play.
just look at GTO wizard solved ranges... its a slam dunk call. They're 4b jamming TT and bluffs like wheel aces. You and bart are nits and thats why the euro regs run you guys over
Personally I'd be jamming on the flop with the Aces. Of course if he calls I probably need to dodge a lot of bullets but checking the flop lets him get to all kinds of two pair or straight combos. And the decision making is really hard (as described). I'd sooner put the pressure on him on the flop and let him call with his made flush or straight or his set. If he has that. Chances are very small he does.
It's impossible for us to both have the best hand and to "probably need to dodge a lot of bullets" Especially if you consider what hands opponent would call a 3x pot shove with.
Had a similar situation. Start day 3 with 72.5k or 29bb. Third hand guy opens to 6.5k. I 3bet to 19k with QQ. He jams covering me. I have 20bb if I fold. I did feel that he doesn’t have worse pairs or AQ but technically he’s supposed to have those hands some times. I call and he has KK. No miracle Qs. Quick day!
In tournament hand analysis i think its important to know both stack sizes. The hand changes a lot if say villain has 3-4x the effective stack rather than .5x the effective stack.
@@88mphDrBrown I guess i missed him say that and was just looking at the graphics. IMO he should post that in graphics as it is important. Thanks for the info.
Maybe not the most interesting comment, but I like the way you played both hands. I was thinking the same along with you for all decisions. For the first hand, I don’t think it’s even questionable that he can just have a straight here for value. It’s so hard for him to have air that I don’t see how we call unless he is a legit lunatic. 2nd hand, my only thought is that you should probably consider what you are doing vs jam before you 3bet. It is an awkward stack depth and for this exact reason there is some merit to flatting in position.
Would love to hear if anyone ever finds a call on the river in hand 1 and thoughts on hand 2, about 500 (2 levels away from the money) at 40bbs.
Thought I heard you say a few months ago you an Depaulo were working on something. Dud I miss that? Or are u still gonna do it?
Checking back the all heart flop is a play by a guy looking to min cash.
Cbet flop for 12k, jamming over a check raise, just stuff it back in his face on the flop. If he has you beat you have plenty of equity. Not giving him a chance to catch whatever bs he might have. As played I’m calling 70k on the river, what is he repping? Basically TT only I think. His bet looks like he wants you to fold AK or a similar weak 1 pair hand.
Hand 1 you played the flop wrong & the turn wrong. You're supposed to lose when you play like that. The river is an obvious fold in this spot.
I probably don't call on the river but I'd definitely bet on the flop
bro you kill it on your thought process in hand progression. As always thanks for your service, had a few deep runs this year colossus broke my heart, but I'll get it one day soon hopefully
Glad you are covering tournament hands. Thank you.
In Hand 1 it seems like the Euro villain is over-valuing a straight. Perhaps he has a single T with an 8 or 9. Pocket TT’s, or KT with the K of hearts. Just because you would do this polarizing river bet with only a flush or a bluff, doesn’t mean opponent will have the same thought process.
Yup, KT with the K of Hearts 💯
Amateurs should always force Pros into coin flips in the Main.
If an amateur could force a pro into a 0 EV coin flip decision every hand, they'd be the best poker player in the world.
That is generally THE point of poker strategy is making your opponent indifferent.
@@PhonyBologna Fairly obvious he means always try to get into coin flip spots with them. Like jamming when you have a huge combo draw even if they could have a set.
@@Jermo484 Again, your example is simply good poker. You get better to fold, and you have solid chances if they don't fold.
Making them indifferent... so just good poker. Lol, do I need to repeat myself?
@@PhonyBologna uh, it's simply not good poker to just always jam when you have a combo draw. It depends on a ton of factors.
@@Jermo484 Name a situation where its bad versus a semi-balanced range? It will generate folds vs a pro's bluffing range and even if the pro calls off correctly they aren't out of the woods.
And don't give me the 'well on double paired boards' BS, and 'well if you also jam all this other stuff to make your range overly week, and artificially add stuff to make a point.
Pair + flush draws make great bluffs, often even if your flush draw is behind a bigger flush draw, your pair may be good. It is near impossible to go wrong.
Its like jamming a set on the flop on a draw heavy board. Sure not the best way to play it, but it isn't ever horrendous.
1) For the AA hand, 1/3 Cbet would be the best option. If you are called or raised, you are done with the hand. 2) For the JJ hand, there is no reason to three bet an opponent that has you covered 3 to 1. Just calling and seeing flop is the best option.
I can't believe you checked the flop. I would have been Cbetting 100% of the time there
If he check raises then I Jam with backdoors and outs to the nuts. Of course it's differnet in the main event but I would have been using my position and equity to blast away
@@Paul_ppDoes not make any sense. That's like a panic jam to end the hand.
Same here, over pair with nut flush draw is totally jammable before turn. Would 100% c bet and/or jam here
Come on Bart if a caller called in with AA hand you be all over him for not playing right, especially in a tournament you have AA and with a beautiful flop you are trying to make bare minimum or looking forward to fold it on the river which you did and if you did push on the river why would he call you on the river, sorry that's crazy. In a tournament with AA it's double up or nothing. But I like your analysis of caller's hands. Main event is a donkeyrama anyway.
There’s been a lot of talk I’ve come across in comments about JJ in cash games and I think it holds true in tournaments. When you 3-bet with JJ, you run the risk of getting blown off your equity before you see the flop. I think in tournaments, if you have your opponent covered, 3 bet away with the intention of calling a shove. But if not, gotta be careful when your tournament life is at stake.
Lol
AAh is the top of H range that checks back flop and calls turn so for that reason I think u have to call. If he’s smart he knows your capped after checking back flop and can turn pairs and AKo into bluffs leveraging his bigger stack
He's not capped Hanson can check back flop with flushes.
River is a fold but he should bet flop.
I was in a similar situation with similar effective stack sizes, though I was in a later position. I had about 38bb with JJ. I 3b to 10bb from the CO and was jammed on by the BB. The BB had done this to me a couple times, where I would raise from a late position and he would 3b huge, and I'd fold. I ended up snapping with JJ and he showed 77, and ended up winning a huge pot and it propelled me to a final table run during last year's WSOP (though I was playing at the Nugget, they had a nice value). I feel like sometimes, making a stand is important especially if you have a nitty table image. I had been folding and playing very few hands up to that point.
nit = weak player, adjusting nit = tough player to very tough ;)
This is why I call more than raise. I always think about what I'll do if I get raised/shoved on. If I'm not confident that I'll call, I don't raise. I've found that it seems to save me more money in the long run (at 1/3; 2/5) than I would make by raising those same hands.
Regarding the JJs hand, I put it in equilab and against a range of AA, KK, QQ, 10s and AK (suited and unsuided) JJs has 44 % and you need around 41%. To me it's too thin for my tournament life but some people say "Hey you have to win flips".
With the Aces I think that's why the solver wants you to bet small, it makes all the misses fold and tries to better define your opponents range giving him the chance to check raise etc. Then if you want to go with it with the Ace of hearts
this is the equivalent of betting to "find out where you're at" which I assure you a solver doesn't ever take into consideration
@@SoulfightPoker A solver doesn't really take any "higher" concepts into consideration. "The solver takes this line because of..." is almost never a correct statement by any means (though it might be a very useful sentence, for example it might make you consider some principle which is useful (for example the said principle might help you figuring out solver lines)). The only thing a solver "knows" are EV (and or some related concept(s)), equities and the game tree. So your sentence says nothing. (Not defending what the first guy said.)
@@MarkusMuller-ks4pp what I was trying to say was don't play checkers here, you bet small with the the nut blocker, already kinda of knowing do we call off or jam if he raises - because we already know that's is a possibility
Jacks is tricky and i’m not great at poker but 40bbs effective vs an honest UTG range can you not flat JJ here in position on the raiser and use your cash game post flop edge? Sure it sets you up for squeezes but if someone does you get the same info and can make the decision to back raise if UTG folds to someone else 3 betting?
So not a fan of the check back on the turn, with the aces and the heart. I make it 20k preflop, as he is calling wide, and 25k flop bet, jam turn. Your check on turn gave him control of the pot, and you played it weak. He sensed that, and took advantage. Should never have gotten there. That being said, you have the right fold on the river. Also, listening to your channel and blackrain’s has helped my game tremendously, and I thank you for the excellent content. Have an awesome weekend!!
thanks for the main event hand reviews !!! wish you success in the next main !!
Hand 1: Bad flop for our overall range, decent for our exact hand. Guess we do a lot of checking here. Holding Ah, great candidate for a xb. Easy call on turn.
River is just a fold IMO. Can’t find many bluffs on that runout.
For hand one. You definitely could have Cbet/delayed CBet small ish to protect yourself from the countless scare cards. But the river fold is almost definite.
Hand two almost definitely should have been a call/jam pre. If you are always calling in that same spot with any AK then JJ, which is better, should definitely be a call.
6 minutes in for me, On these boards, Ive heard Negreanu talk about how Addamo goes for a range tiny bet (like 2-2.5bbs) and that its solver approved. I guess it works even better on like a K83hhh board instead of this one.. but the strategy still make sense I think.
Its probably more complex on boards like yours where there are more continues though.
Already an interesting spot.
on the JJ hand. if you have no read on brandons game, i think in the main event on the cusp of making the money opponents are VERY VERY much more likely to be jamming AA-QQ here than they otherwise should be. a lot of the field is just trying to make the money and arent concerned at all with maximizing value on their big hands. id fold here EASILY against an unknown.
With the Aces hand I think not betting flop is a big mistake. You have the Ace of hearts for backdoor equity making it highly unlikely anything but a nut hand (like a made straight) would ever raise you. By betting small on the flop you get a lot of information. Most hands like KQ of diamonds or even K hearts queen of diamonds or one pair straight draw hands, one pair heart draw hands, over pairs, etc. are at best just going to call you and try to see a cheap showdown and maybe hope to improve. But if you check this board on the flop ALL of the speculative hands which probably would either call or just get out of the way of this very scary board are now going to be inspired to bluff making your situation super tough. I would snap fold to a raise because of ICM considerations.
I like a check on the flop with AA especially with the A of hearts, if we bet at get raised it's a miserable spot because we block his main bluffing candidate, sure we always have equity but i feel as if his raises would be weighted towards value since we have Ah and we don't really want to get in in vs sets and flopped straights. I think we check call down hoping for a clean runnout, the way the board ran out i find it hard for him tl have too many bluffs and i think he absolutely could go for value with just a 10 as its very unlikely we have a flush as played.
Yeah I agree, miserable spot with red AA, blocking some of villains most obvious bluffs. I do like a small cbet OTF (maybe B 15 or somewhere in that range), if he calls we just x evaluate turns and rivers. But as played and the way the board ran out, have to imagine this is a high % fold to river jam. If river is a brick like 2s we probably call a lot more.
I am making this comment before seeing the river bets on the first hand. Would it be a bad play to jam the flop?
Given your reasoning of the pre-flop raise size and reasoning, I think you should just bomb flop and jam turn, honestly. Hope he calls with some combo draw or pair.
I think you had this "I'm going to make a big raise cause this guy is nuts" strategy preflop but then changed your mind postflop.
Hand 2: Flat pre wouldn’t be too bad. You have only 69k left after 3betting, so jamming is the only move for villain besides folding, no? Not sure we can weight it less towards AA/KK because he jammed. Think fold is correct again. His range is {QQ+, AK}.
I have 102k after the 3bet
@@CrushlivePokeroh wow, that definitely weights him more towards AK/QQ then.
Chips are so important I can’t believe trying to be tricky on that first flop. Just bet then jam turn.
I think for the second hand you’re flipping at best.
Taking into consideration your image (you’ve played tight and haven’t gotten out of line, no reason for him to think you’re doing this light), he’s doing this UTG, the pot odds are bad, ICM, and the likelihood that he’s not doing this with anything worse (unless it’s AK, in which case you’re flipping for your tournament life). This feels like a sigh and fold taking ICM into account. Wait for a better spot
I think the JJ fold is standard for 40bb. This is one of the many reasons why I hate 9handed tournaments. Its such a nit game.
All in bluff with AhAd Bart. Did you even consider it?
In the AA hand, I would have bet tiny on the flop like 3K or 6k because the board is monotone. It is a very bad run out for your specific hand and I don't know how you could find a call. There are so many combos that have you beat, I would have folded as well as you still had a very nice stack at that time.
the hand was played very poorly. slowplay aces is such a bitch move.
@@nikiyubari5499 lol ego player discovered
It was a good check back but idk those euros love to bluff I think him specifically id call with aces he’s too polarized
Aces with the ah is a terrible hand to call with
I’m jus leading small flop, if he raises I jam. If he calls, then goto turn I’ll check check or call his turn bet fold river bet.
I think against UTG with that stack size, flatting could be a lot better than 3-betting.
JJ seems like a fine fold, if not ez. Hoping he has AK and ur flipping.
AA is a crazy hand… I think you have to decide if he bets that size a 10…. But also there’s like no bluff hands haha. Crazy one. Nice vid Bart!
I think you have to put in at least one or two combos of 10’s which makes hand 2 a call.
Pot the flop with the intent ti get it all in on a blank turn or another heart
Bet small flop, check back river, evaluate his sizing on river. Likely still fold to 1.5x pot bet
I think the utg open was most likely AK, possibly 10-10-going to disagree that this isn’t a possibility. You are for the most part 50-50 with an asterix giving you a slight edge so given what’s in the pot it is a call. The aces was a fold imo. Ugly flop that warrants a check and try to keep pot as small as possible. Had some heart outs which didn’t come in but likely villain had a 10 and a pair-most likely J-10 but many other possibilities or could have even flopped a straight or flush
I think u need to include 1010 in villains range as well
I don't know. Folding is probably the right answer since you're a better player than I am, but I would have called this bet from an aggressive Euro player. The board is way too scary for that size. You're just folding all of your overpairs and your range has a ton. If he was betting for value he would have probably bet pot or less so you can call with those overpairs. No?
Guys 2 levels away from the money with 102 BBs, then he ends up with about 112BBs after this hand, yet somehow manages to botch even making the money when hes certainly in the top 30 percentile of chip amounts at that point. Probably top 25 percentile. Thats kinda sad. Most would kill to be in that position. 112 freaking BBs 2 levels away from the money. 😵💫 That would eat at me for a while.
Who had 102bbs? The villain in hand 2? I was surprised that he didn’t cash if that’s what you are referring to
I don't mind the JJ fold, 30 Bigs with ICM is enough to try and find a better spot.
On the AA hand, your check on the flop and call on the turn induced his big bet on the river. He didn't have you beat.
@CrushlivePoker why not bet pot on the flop and 2 cards to go, he either folds or ships it. Either way, 2 cards and you don’t put yourself in the spot you ended up in.
The way he says euro seems a little derogatory
Flop check is preposterous. You of all crushers know about slow playing man. Half pot it on the flop bro. Take it down. Next hand.
Pot it IMO, sets up a perfectly sized turn shove on any heart or brick
I like that option as well.
@@jimmymason6893 cash crushers tend to try to maximize value too much in tournaments. Fold equity should be weighted heavier. Can't go broke taking down smaller pots on the flop. it's more of a Harrington-esque survival style than the modern meta
@@kendob9642 What hands are we trying to get him to fold when we have Aces with the heart?
@@kendob9642potting is really bad. You make him fold too many hands you want to continue.
Thoughts on Chance calling Rigby’s shove with AK?
He was 100bb deep and by far the best player at the table and Rigby should have been easy pickings for him. Why gamble? Even if Rigby had a small pair or two random cards. No need to take that spot. Super punt IMHO. I’m sure he agrees if he is being honest with himself.
I'm a nit but I usually bet flop 70 80 percent then jam turn in that spot I've actually had same spot with red kings on 910J diamond flop I hit a king on river and he was disgusted with middle set
We Bet with NO hearts and viceversa...‼‼
its not even worth analyzing the pot odds when you arent even sure he jams tt + your risk premium and tournament life is so valuable, especially in the main. additionally the fact some people are gonna get over excited with AA and KK and just jam those too as opposed to flat or 4b nai
3Bet is too big...even if ur playing tight, at 40bbs eff you should use a sizing that allows OOP 4bet to ~25% of the effective stack. If you made it 15.5k, you retain close to the same FE IP and you allow OOP to go to 30-31k where he can add more 4Bet bluffs. As played you have to fold and give away a decent amount of equity...I'd rather flat than 3Bet/fold in these positions and I really don't like a flat here much. This is the thing that cash players don't get...in MTTs it's very important to use (or allow ur opponent to use) non-allin sizings whenever it's possible to do so.
A win is a win. Pre flop, post flop, 4th street, river. I don't give AF where I win a hand. I would never check that flop to fold AA on the river. What if he had red kings? Probably a missed draw. At best flopped a set. I would of found out by betting 3/4 pot to pot+ on the flop. However insane & lucky players are almost impossible to beat. I'd rather bet strong & fold early than later not certain.
"Found out" he had a set, so that we could get all the money in and go broke......
Also, two red KK isn't turning itself into a bluff on the river, or value-betting.
In mp1 facing an utg open of 2x and u had jj and made a standard 3!? I would of just called and got to see the flop. No 3! in this spot pre imo.
You have to take these chances if you want to win a tournament. Sometimes you busy sometimes you double up.
The classic check back to bluff catch and then fold =D
Happens sometimes. We get bad run-outs. It also saves our stack in a tournament where every chip is the most valuable chip out of every tournament. If this was cash, the flop is a bet all day. If this was a multi entry tournament, this is a bet all day. It happens lol
first hand is a live read situation
Is it? It just seems like a snap fold.
dipollo is an absolute legend let's go baby!!!
After watching Daniel Weinman beating QQ and KK with JJ I’m not folding JJ ever again lol
Hand 2: Do you ever think he has TT? This is a fold and probably should have been just a call pre.
Hand 1 folding r all day. Hand 2 results oriented that was a good fold.
This first hand is a bet really small on the flop. Like 3k
checkraise the turn on hand 1
Jacks is a straight fold. He could have a better pair or even AK - and hit an Ace or King. Tournament life for you. Have to fold as annoying as this is.
My thoughts are some of you pros out think yourselves and get yourself into trouble by giving free cards.
I saw many times during final table telecast were the leader was good pre and on the flop and it checked through only to be behind on turn or river.
I saw a lot of check ahead on flop or chet flop with nothing.
Just my thoughts
I have been in that exact situation with JJ. It's a pure fold. If he has all the AA, KK, QQ and AK, you need about 1.9:1 just to break even. If you eliminate a few combos, you still need about 1.5:1. It's just not worth risking your tournament life for what is, at best, a break-even play.
just look at GTO wizard solved ranges... its a slam dunk call. They're 4b jamming TT and bluffs like wheel aces. You and bart are nits and thats why the euro regs run you guys over
When you bet so big you played your hand up basically
I would jam the flop😂
1st hand Euro had 10 10❤ 😮
A_A hand villain has A-10 reasonable utg
Bad check back with the aces
Scared you out of the pot . I would have made it 50-60k myself . The JJ I do agree
With the AA he knew what you had preflop...never overlook that.
The check back on the flop was the worst play
Id take JJ over AK any day usually AK bricks
Personally I'd be jamming on the flop with the Aces. Of course if he calls I probably need to dodge a lot of bullets but checking the flop lets him get to all kinds of two pair or straight combos. And the decision making is really hard (as described). I'd sooner put the pressure on him on the flop and let him call with his made flush or straight or his set. If he has that. Chances are very small he does.
It's impossible for us to both have the best hand and to "probably need to dodge a lot of bullets"
Especially if you consider what hands opponent would call a 3x pot shove with.
@@EuthanizePitbulls In my experience nomatter how far ahead I am on a flop jam there are always bullets to dodge...........
Had a similar situation. Start day 3 with 72.5k or 29bb. Third hand guy opens to 6.5k. I 3bet to 19k with QQ. He jams covering me. I have 20bb if I fold. I did feel that he doesn’t have worse pairs or AQ but technically he’s supposed to have those hands some times. I call and he has KK. No miracle Qs. Quick day!
30k flop would have told you everything you needed to know
Hand 1 just jam he’s folding everything cuz it’s never a bluff 🤣🤣
In tournament hand analysis i think its important to know both stack sizes. The hand changes a lot if say villain has 3-4x the effective stack rather than .5x the effective stack.
Villain can't have less than the effective stack, if he did he would be the effective stack.
Bart said V had about 200k and he had 120k in case you missed it.
@@88mphDrBrown I guess i missed him say that and was just looking at the graphics. IMO he should post that in graphics as it is important. Thanks for the info.
Just go all in pre and clean up.
Probably the worst i've seen AA play post flop...already 33k in there. 11min to describe scared money.
I'd flat JJ from those positions. I get that people who play cash 3bet JJ and AKo too much over 40bb eff
AA I like flop check for pot control. Can check the higher nut flushes also like AKhh AQhh
hand 2 you give away on the flop
Maybe not the most interesting comment, but I like the way you played both hands. I was thinking the same along with you for all decisions.
For the first hand, I don’t think it’s even questionable that he can just have a straight here for value. It’s so hard for him to have air that I don’t see how we call unless he is a legit lunatic.
2nd hand, my only thought is that you should probably consider what you are doing vs jam before you 3bet. It is an awkward stack depth and for this exact reason there is some merit to flatting in position.
2nd hand smells like KQ with the K♥️ or K10
I never played at wsop. They make you move casinos? Wow. I get moving tables obviously, but go across the street. Seems aggressive.
you dont have to go outside.. It's long a down hallway inside with a connection.
@@CrushlivePokerlong a down hallway
The first hand is why you don't play aces in the main. (sarcasm...kind of)
I bet on AA for the last hand
Had AK
"I knocked out a euro"😀😀😀
"A euro replaced him"
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K❤10❤ pretty hand
Small bet on flop
Hand 2 He had AA 😅
2nd hand. Think has kings.
Brandon Lee, The Crow, great movie 👍
You should’ve shoved on the flop with your aces. He would have folded any non-made hand.
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lol, I hope that this is genuine and not a troll.
Losing with AA with so much equity on flop against an aggressive player is disaster. Bet large on flop and all in on the turn.
Don’t 3bet the JJ.
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Aces was poorly played, Jack's is a fold