How to Play Your Arranger Keyboard Like a Piano
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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Pianists, do you feel restricted by the 'left hand chord' method on arranger keyboards? Join Average Keyboard Guy as he shows you how to play with the expressiveness of a pianist while enjoying the benefits of arranger keyboard accompaniments.
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Chris, thanks for highlighting this technique! Using SX-900 here, I'm taking online piano lessons, and modifying each of the lessons to work in Arranger mode as best I can. (I just can't find anyone online that specifically teaches how to play Arrangers, they naturally teach solo piano as their target audience) I've avoided using the Chord Looper, but will give this a try.
When using Full Keyboard fingering, it's a bit of a struggle to avoid having the Melody notes change the chords, particularly if both hands are in the same octave range. If I play the chord and lift the Left hand quickly, then those Melody notes don't change the chords, but now I'm playing chords that end up sounding very muddy. So, let me ask you if instead of Full Keyboard, would it be advisable to use a split using a piano voice in both Left and R1, and increase the Left octave by +1 ?? I know this starts getting messy very quickly (!), but any ideas on how to pull this off (without using Chord Looper?)
Hi there, Jerry!
Thank you for sharing your experience and challenges with using the SX-900 in Arranger mode. It’s great to hear that you’re integrating online piano lessons into your playing. The Full Keyboard fingering can indeed be tricky when it comes to avoiding unwanted chord changes with melody notes.
Your idea of using a split keyboard with a piano voice in both the Left and R1 sections is a good one, especially with the octave shift. This can help keep the chords clear and less muddy. Here’s a step-by-step approach you might find helpful:
1. Set Up the Split Point: Choose a split point that feels comfortable for your left-hand chords and right-hand melody. This will allow you to separate the chord section from the melody section more effectively.
2. Voice Selection: Assign a piano voice to both the Left and R1 sections. By doing this, you can maintain a consistent sound across both hands.
3. Octave Adjustment: Increase the Left section’s octave by +1. This will help the chords to sound clearer and less muddy, as they’ll be in a higher register.
4. Practice Coordination: Spend some time practicing this setup to get used to the feel and coordination. It might take a bit of adjustment, but with practice, it should become more natural.
5. Use of Chord Looper: As I mentioned in the video, the Chord Looper can be an excellent solution for freeing up your hands. It allows you to pre-record your chord progressions, enabling you to focus on the melody and other aspects of your performance without the hassle of chord triggering.
6. Experiment with Settings: Don’t hesitate to experiment with different split points, voices, and octave settings until you find the combination that works best for you.
However, even with the split keyboard setup as suggested, if you're playing in a piano style, you might still encounter difficulty getting the chords to trigger at exactly the right moment. This is a common challenge due to the nature of piano-style playing and the arranger’s response to chord changes.
Given this, the Chord Looper may be your best bet. It offers a reliable way to manage chord changes while you play freely with both hands, enhancing your overall performance experience.
Remember, finding the right setup can be a bit of a trial-and-error process, but it’s worth it for the improved sound and playability. Keep experimenting and practicing, and you’ll find a method that works well for your style and the lessons you’re incorporating.
Good luck, and happy playing! If you have any more questions or need further tips, feel free to ask.
Chris (Average Keyboard Guy)
@@ePianoscouk Thanks so much Chris, those are excellent tips, I'll try them all out!
What a great (and involved!) initial question and what a fantastically comprehensive and reassuring answer. Full marks on both counts guys! Kind regards, Roy.
That’s brilliant, Chris. You’ve taught me something new. Thank you.
Glad to help!
Great video thank you. I’m learning to play Elton John’s “Your Song” the actual way he plays it but still get some benefit from the Genos accompaniment. I’ll try changing to “Full Keyboard” and see what happens. I wish there was some sort of in-person class given by Yamaha in the U.S. but none that I’m aware of. Your tips are very much appreciated!
I love my DGX 670 but I’m utterly frustrated that Yamaha has no tutorials for us to enjoy all the great features of our keyboards.
Thank you so much for your support! I'm glad to know the video has given you some ideas to use. If you're after more help for this type of keyboard, we've tried to make a great resource of videos and tech support on our website here: www.epianos.co.uk/newsroom/
Have a look-I'm sure you'll find some helpful tips and tricks! Good luck with learning "Your Song," and happy playing!
Nice job
Thank you! Cheers!
I have a Genos since 2018, but never got used to it (disclaimer: I had just 4 months of piano playing experience when I got the Genos and, at that time, I had no clue yet of what I needed to continue my playing journey!). So it has sat unused for years and my playing, now on a pop/rock band, is using a MONTAGE or MODX+. But I have always wanted to get some music out of the Genos so, about a month ago, I came back to it and began to create registrations for the covers we play on the band. It was a nice and refreshing experience, but somewhat limited. Now you have given me some new ideas to improve that. I already knew all of them in theory, but the use you have shown here has opened new musical ways to me. Thanks!!!
Hi there, Jose.
Thanks for sharing your journey with the Genos! It's amazing to hear that after all this time, you're finding new ways to incorporate it into your music. It's understandable that transitioning to such a powerful instrument after just a few months of playing experience can be overwhelming.
It's great that you're back at it and creating registrations for your band's covers. The Genos is a fantastic tool for adding depth and versatility to your performances, and I'm glad the video gave you some fresh ideas. Theory is one thing, but seeing practical applications can really open up new possibilities.
If you have any questions or need further tips on making the most out of your Genos, feel free to ask. Keep experimenting and enjoying the process-there’s so much potential to explore!
Thanks again for your comment, and happy playing!
@@ePianoscouk Thanks for your encouragement. Only one detail, as I have perhaps not explained it well. I am NOT playing the Genos on the band. My covers on it are intended for me solo playing for leisure at home or perhaps with friends. On the band, my playing is well served with the MONTAGE /MODX+ (BTW, we have tomorrow a gig!). But rediscovering the Genos has allowed some kind of closure to an open end on my musical journey, I hope you understand what I mean 😅
EXCELLENT VIDEO. Thank you very much, Master, for sharing your knowledge.
You are very welcome!
I really enjoy hearing you play … do you have some cover that you do , just for fun? If so please give me the link .. you are a very talented pianist :-)
How do you do chord looper when the verses have one set of chords but the chorus has different chords? How do you go back and forth between verse and chorus? Thank you!!
Thanks for great video.. and I love the Genos piano voices.. I've got tyros5.. can I add them using expansion
I'm afraid not. You'll have to upgrade to a Genos. We have a second hand clearance sale here: www.epianos.co.uk/used-genos-keyboards/
Guday from NZ. Loved your video - very informative. Just a quick question. I see you have your keyboard set-up directly in front of your central heating radiator. Is this an ok practice to do? Do you know if there is a long term degradation of the electronics from heat from the radiator? Thank you.
G'day!
It's summer here in the UK at the moment, so I haven't had the central heating on a lot. I don't expect being next to a radiator would do any harm to the keyboard, yet I'd still be a little reluctant to do it anyway. Perhaps it's the legacy of not keeping traditional pianos next to radiators or fluctuating temperature environments that's playing on my mind unnecessarily. Perhaps I'd keep the temperature down low and separate them a little. Maybe an electronics engineer reading this can offer an opinion?
Certainly, when it comes to traditional pianos, there is cause to keep them away from fluctuating temperatures like in front of radiators or in conservatories, as the wood and the metal frames that hold the tension in the strings can cause tuning issues. The PSR-SX900, being predominantly plastic of course and not having any strings, doesn't have these issues, but I'd still be interested to hear what an experienced electronics engineer says about this.
Another thing to mention is that the Yamaha Genos that I'm using is lightweight enough for me to carry and store between playing sessions. I normally do this and keep it in a padded gig bag standing up on one end to save space.
Hope that helps, glad you liked the video, and thanks for your support!
Chris
Oh, and thanks for Ben Stokes 🙏 🏏
@@ePianoscouk Many thanks for your considered reply. My wife and I emigrated to Christchurch NZ from the Wirral in 1986 where we kept our wooden framed piano away from the radiators for the reasons you described. As it happens we moved into a house with water filled radiators on July 4th so viewing your video and the enquiry was timely. Your advise and another posting has been invaluable. Keep safe and I look forward to watching more videos from you.
Kind regards,
Charlie Peters
Chris - thanks a lot! What piano sound is this? So nice…did you customize anything?
Thanks for your support! I'm just using the default Yamaha CFX piano in this video.
Does it work on the Roland E-A7?
If it has a similar type of fingering type options, and a chord looper, then yes!
Will this work on sx700
Yes, the full keyboard fingering setting will work, however, the PSR-SX700 does not have the Chord Looper feature that I show. The PSR SX-900, Genos and Genos 2 do. Hope that helps!