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6:30 - in classic wow as soon u accept the first quests in westfall u are called a high ranked member of the whole alliance military btw. and in westfall u are one of only 2 people of the military there. ur second in command. maybe read quest texts, its the first turn in quest u give in at the tower where the flight point is. u earend this title while leveing in elwynn forest. in retail u are also not called an campion at lvl 1 but later sure, same as in classic. i think in retail its lvl 10 when ur something special but classic its lvl 12
Remember when Blizzard tried to kill flying in retail, and a massive forum response (thousands of pages of comments) made them change their plans? Hard to put the genie back in the bottle. Most people who disliked flying had already quit. But some came back for Classic!
@@NixxiomOnRUclips damn, lend some to the rest of us, or to Asmon, maybe it'll make him happy and he'll stop doing DEI=DIE videos and do something actually fun instead
It is the hero's journey and not the chosen one. People are more social. Also I shouted out loud when I got my first 6 slot bag drop. That drop felt so rewarding.
I don’t consider myself to be a very social person but in MMOs I really enjoy talking to people. It’s fun to group up with people even if we end up wiping.
Levelling a Tauren Druid in the Barrens is such a charming & adventurous experience. The mobs are sometimes too difficult to kill alone, I ended up grouping three times today, and got thanked twice for buffing random travellers passing by.
Today most games, specially MMOs are just a "rush to max level to start the actual game", and even after that, everything still feel too fast (Instant dungeon finding, loot everywhere, etc...). That's the reason I like vanilla, the game starts as soon as you create your character and you can enjoy the game while taking your time leveling.
Because Vanilla has no "End Game" that's why you feel lvling is 90% of the whole game rest is doing same raid for same gear just to clear same raid + Nostalgia and the charm of relaxed gameplay knowing what waits in the end unlike retail with real "End game" content that people want to do hence they rush lvling ofc.
Yeah, I think they really killed the dungeon experience when they made everything an AoE pull. No more sheeps or saps, just a tank running in and aoe'ing to hold aggro while everyone dps's. Go faster, take the shortcut/skip, dont bother rezzing, just make them run back while keep clearing. No time for chat or fun, just GRIND.
One VERY underrated aspect of classic wow was questing. I understand that many people find them boring and tedious but to me the sheer size and scope of the world gave it an incredible sense of adventure that is hard to find in other games and grouping up with people to do quests and dungeons heavily elevated the experience.
I think the quest designers did a good job. It's difficult to make the story in a game as enjoyable as a book, where the author controls luck and the complete environment that characters interact with (no random hyenas killing the main character), but quests in original WoW are good enough to let the MMO part of the game shine. Viewing them as "boring and tedious" is mostly a learned attitude, reinforced by the social network that is retail WoW and the game designers who cater to that attitude by 'streamlining' leveling until it takes only 4 hours to go from 1 to the level cap in retail WoW.
Dont use questie but please install the addon Voiceover and enjoy a totally refreshing questing experience. Makes reading/listening to npcs so much more interesting and sometimes fun and hilarious.
I Play healer in wow for 16 years now. Yesterday i healed my First HC group. It feld like healing for the first time again. It was distressing but awesome and the interaction within the group was super nice. Something i haven't experienced in retail for years + I never had fomo once in Classic. I Love it
Just a little story, I joined back up when classic wow hardcore was announced, I do not own the war within and unless I can make enough gold playing classic mists I don't intend to, but my hardcore character originally was my tried and true character JohnyKnack a typical rogue, and I started playing and while interacting with the community in Deathknell the way I always did in retail (Sarcastic and glib) I noticed I wasn't enjoying myself because what I was doing was boring. So I shifted my paradigm, I made a new character Santacloths who's sole goal is to give out free bags to people just starting out in Brill. I leveled my character up and collected all the linen I could as well as taking enchanting for wands (another popular thing) and when I hit the appropriate level I began making and giving away linen bags to people randomly. I'd hop on shout in general that I was in town, jump onto a mailbox and sooner or later people would come. I made over a hundred bags and leveled my tailoring to 120 on bags and bolts alone, and I leveled my enchanting by making robes and disenchanting them then using the essences I'd sometimes get to make wands. I leveled so I could farm the nearby undead for cloth and greens and I noticed something, despite not having left the undead starting area I was having more fun than I had in retail in years. I was not only doing stuff by myself but my actions as Santacloths were impacting the community around me, however small. I had people give me stacks of mats to make free bags for other players or hand over a few copper despite being told it was free, and that was when it clicked with me, exactly what Classic brings that retail had lost and can probably never get back, because honest question. If you were a level 4-5 in Brill in retail world of warcraft and someone offered you a free linen bag or a lesser magic wand, what would your reaction be?
Ok on a more serious note, I was never interested in being someone who talked in-game as though they were actually their character (on Role-playing servers), or who used a roleplaying add-on that let one create a shareable backstory for their character, or who ((talked like this)) on forums to show out-of-character communications, but this kind of gameplay does sound more interesting than, say, retail WoW. Am I setting a low bar there (Edit: though as I recall I did once act in-game as though I was my in-game character, and maybe it was the unintended consequences of the miscommunication that resulted that made me avoid doing it again. So I shouldn't judge)
Man, I’m having a blast. My son was born in Jan, 2020 and I sort of missed the boat on Classic to an extent. I’ve been playing on the Anniversary Realms since they opened and I’m in love. I’ve always played hybrid specs… in retail I main Druid and Monk. But in Classic I know I just don’t have the time to invest in things like offspecs. So, I rolled a Rogue and it’s just so much fun. I especially like how impactful professions are. I’m excited to raid, but for now I’m just taking in all there is to the leveling process :)
Just wrapped up Dun Morogh, did some loch modan, tossed a coin between westfall and darkshore for the grind to level 20. Darkshore here I come. It’s so good.
He was wrong about it then. And is wrong about it now. He doesn't play anymore, and never understood HC, nor Classic players truly. The problem is that he thinks he does. He just can't step away from his own perspective.
As someone played both Classic and Retail, I'm lad there's a space for both types of games. Sometimes I just want to enjoy the slowburn of Vanilla that delivers high highs when I get an upgrade, and a community who also enjoys the slow paced journey. But sometimes I just want more places to explore, more side content to do, and grind for cosmetic rewards that respect my limited time, which is what Retail provides. It's sometimes sad to see the unnecessary tribalism between the two versions of the game, when its obvious that both versions cater to different tastes. This community deserves better than to rip each other apart for something they enjoy.
community is really better in classic but what amazes me is how these people, presumably around 30-40 ish years old, having families, work and stuff can afford to play such grindy game
Id rather spend an hour or two of my free time to game 1 level and feel satisfied. Unlike retail, where one hour of gameplay is 10-20 levels or 4-5 heroic dungeons of no loot.
I have 3 kids a full time job and a wife. After we get the kiddos down to bed around 830ish we call my brother and all hop on to play an hour or 2 of HC wow, we take it slow and enjoy the game as it is. Rushing is HC sets you back anyway haha
I was so excited for fresh servers and 2 weeks in it has made me realize how much I love the older versions of this game. I love the adventure to 60 being the bulk of the game and endgame being a much smaller part than it is today. The delay in rewards and next to no instant gratification makes every level and item upgrade feel exponentially better than it does in retail. You really feel your character getting stronger over time. Its simply a much more rewarding experience in my opinion.
It would be good if people stopped playing it in single player mode. I'm a Classic fan on the verge to go back to retail due to the player base: people stubbornly doing quests alone, dumbsters looking at other players dieing without moving a finger under aggroed mobs, total noobs with RestedXP and so on.
I started playing WoW Classic, and WoW as a whole, for the first time with the new Classic fresh servers, I have been watching your videos for about a year now and they always very well made and it's always a pleasure to see how passionate you are about the game in every video, thank you for your videos
I've been having a ball on Classic fresh servers. I also started the game back in 2005, and even though I still play it, the retail version has definitely lost a few of the things that made the game special. I'm a 43 Holy/Disc priest this time around, and although I won't make 60 by the time MC releases, I'll definitely be raiding with my guild in week two.
@@Weavelol There are still parts of retail I enjoy, but not the same things I enjoy about classic. The raids are much more challenging, Mythic+ offers a challenge for much less time investment, and the collection systems offer unlimited things to chase. It's mainly the community side that has been diluted, and the levelling journey is completely irrelevant because you can get to max level within a single day.
I wish someone like Nixxiom or any other streamer/youtuber that claims the classic community is fantastic and so friendly and lovely towards each other would go "under cover" so to speak. Ya'know, claim they're going on vacation for a few days but secretly play the game off stream on a brand new account that has 0 ties to who they are as a content creator and just play a class like say Paladin that's generally shunned by the community until 60. I've been leveling a Paladin in classic fresh and my god this community is full of toxic, elitist jackasses. There's people who read that last sentence and checked out and so they're not gonna see that I'll say that I know not everybody is like that, but there is a SIGNIFICANT number of people in this community, enough to where running into people like that is a more than once a day occurrence. Try playing a Paladin and see how many groups you get kicked out of or just outright not invited to because the Warriors don't want you taking their gear and the Mages/Warlocks/Priests don't want you taking theirs, or a Priest that's not a Dwarf on Alliance side and listen to how many people tell you you're simply not gonna have a raid spot then. Play an Arcane Mage I fuckin' dare you. See what happens the moment in a dungeon you fire off an Arcane Missile. The classic community is toxic af if you're not playing the way the community has deemed the best way to play. Nixxiom and other content creators live and work in a bubble because they're only ever surrounded by sycophants that would suck the sploodge off their nuts at the slightest side glance of acknowledgement.
Play hardcore, where people don't expect to keep their stuff (items) and so they don't try to optimize to get items as efficiently as possible by being rude to others >the moment in a dungeon you fire off an Arcane Missile What, do people not spec for clearcasting these days? Highest mana-cost single-target spell, and it also has use as a finisher spell due to mana regen starting as soon as it finishes
Great video! My favorite part of playing classic WoW is the community. Another thing about Classic WoW, it's not a walking advertisement filled with FOMO.
The world was the star of WoW back in the day… I’ll never forget exploring the world, it felt like being an actual adventurer. It’s a feeling that is rare but powerful, I think the only other games that had that vibe to me were Skyrim, Witcher 3, and Elden Ring.
I've been playing on and off since Xmas of 04 and I have recently been hooked on hc classic. It brings the nostalgia of every death mattering to my 10-11 year old self like it used to be, everyone is a significant part of the world in HC that it really breathes life into the world in a whole new way that I love
I always liked the slower leveling, just being immersed in the zone, maybe having to find some other players to help with a quest. It's WAY better than getting an expansion, blowing through it in a few hours then just teleporting to raids. Retail is missing the WORLD part of Warcraft. Also, GREAT video that perfectly explains why Classic WoW is so good. Really agree with how upgrades feel earned and impactful. Most of all, same as you, I'll never forget those friends from back in 2004-2006 or so, it took a LOT of work from 40+ people to down Ragnaros and it's still my favorite moment in all my years of gaming. I didn't plan on playing WoW Classic again, but I think after watching this video I may check the new servers out.
I think if retail didn't have item level and went back to like chasing stats or farming for that ONE piece of gear that does feel impactful etc. Would be a good idea.
I’m a new player to WOW just started playing this week and I love the game There is so much content and meeting people and doing quests with them feels so fun and authentic I can’t believe I have never played this game and I’m probably never gonna stop
I remember leveling through Ghostlands in 2007. We were inside the tombs there. A rogue named Seandawg made us neck pieces with the new jewel crafting profession. Thanks Seandawg.
I think retail looks great, I wish some of that aesthetic could come to classic. I like that the combat animations match whats happening instead of my character swinging a sword once while a bunch of numbers pop up or worse, misses/parries. The problem is that if you let Blizz start to make changes (even ones we want) they wont stop until theyve killed it.
@@bluemyst42 Idk man I disagree with that take. Classic combat is realistic which makes me feel more immersed in the game. Retail combat is so flashy and overdone it's literally like playing league. Feels out of place
I like playing retail mostly these days but classic is a nice mixup for more than just nostalgia. I like being a generic adventurer/mercenary in a hostile world. It’s fun just being a cog in the wheel for once
Classic is worse than retail in nearly every single way. I recently left Season of Discovery and returned to retail and everything has been SO MUCH BETTER :). You get vaults, weekly quests, events, active pvp and mythic+ dungeons. With Classic you get NOTHING. Everything takes hours longer and there is no LFD or LFR to find a raid. PVP is basically dead in Classic. No mythic+. Same raids you have done 1000x such as Molten Core. Classic is BORING and I am never going back.
People who never got to play classic and are currently in retail always say “it’s lame” or “youre just wearing rose tinted glasses” and then they try it and love it
The stat I want to know is how many brand new players has WoW Classic attracted and retained. I can't imagine that number is very high. Unless you grew up on it, I can't imagine a younger generation digging the gameplay of WoW Classic.
Depends if the young ones enjoyed RPGs like Baldur’s Gate 3 etc, it’s not really for the CoD FIFA crowd, but I don’t know what the fuck Gen Z likes? Gen shin Impacts seems close?
@@chronology556 But WoW Classic (and retail) isn't anything like a CRPG like Baldur's Gate 3. In BG3 you have a ton of character options to create a very unique character to role-play as. In WoW, apart from your looks, everyone's playing the same character based on class. In BG3, you have a ton of attack and interactivity options. In WoW you spam the same main abilities over and over. And the most interaction you have is to sit in a chair. Your choices in WoW don't affect the overall narrative or world in Azeroth like they do in BG3.
Berfore watching: the world, the nostalgia, the questing, the journey to 60, the coziness, the rpg elements that matter (ammunition for hunter, feeding the pet, drinking water/milk for mana), the well balanced, raw gameplay, the beautiful graphics (for those who love em) and the original UI, the actual need to group up and talk to people, helping each other out. Shortly: it’s the best MMORPG ever made.
I agree with most things you said but the gameplay is anything but balanced. There is a plethora of specs that aren’t even playable because they weren’t fleshed out enough or their damage was abysmal.
@@McLean757 Maybe I don’t actually mean well balanced in the classical sense, but at least I have the feeling that the progress feels important and fair. It’s pretty easy to keep your professions up at least as a hunter with skinning and leatherworking, because you gain resources while you’re leveling/killing mobs. Sure, it’s a lil different with other professions. And every encounter feels rewarding to overcome, every elite feels even better. It just feels right in most cases, that’s what I was trying to say.
Grind Is meaningful, every little gear upgrade Feels great. Even if i can log in only for 30 minutes i am satisfied with few bars to my level, that one quest i just progressed, or even new flightpath i spend those 30 mins getting to.
this is why i like classic and tbc: character and gear progression feels significant and satisfying. everything you do feels like it matters. the pace of the game is also slower, and unless youre doing something like a classic server with a 16 week per phase schedule, you dont really feel rushed.
my heart was poundin when i went to Maraudon in Hardcore, the healer disconnected and we just pulled the 2 giants just before Princess....well, only the tank died but man, the adrenaline is insane and no other game will give me this.
No strict meta, no battle passes, no repetitive grinding for time-limited, developer-enforced rewards, and no FOMO. Classic WoW feels like a return to the PS2-era philosophy of gaming, where exploration and discovery are key. You play the game at your own pace, with the freedom to approach it however you want, rather than being guided by how the developers think you should play.
Ya know, it's been great watching your videos over the years. I remember watching your early stuff back in the day and playing wow since vanilla has been a trip. I've been enjoying coming back to classic over and over and it feels like home. 😅
I really love classic and i created new character on fresh server , but after hitting level 20 i asked myself this " why am i leveling another character , this will be like my 15th character on this new Classis wow servers , just enough is enough , doing the same thing over and over again" i would really like to play it , but i just have to force myself to do it , not having fun anymore....
Because this type of game is only meant to be fun once. If you’re not in it to do end game content with a decent group of people by the end of your lvling, then what is the point? What is the difference between playing a stupid fresh server and playing by yourself in retail with way more things to do or play a private server? 😒 People are so blinded by nostalgia and miss a tine they had friends who also had time to play this game, when no one knew anything
@@wuzittooya Straight to the point , it only hits for the first time , now i know every route , every quest location , what to do etc , not fun anymore... End game could be fun but first of all i have done all of that before ( few times ) and also adult life does not let me spend as much time as i would like to.
I didn't play Classic the first time around, but with the anniversary realms I wanted to play to experience the old story again like I did back in Vanilla. But then I spend time leveling my tailoring and made my first green item and equipped it, it felt good.
I went and asked ChatGPT how long it would take me to have one character per class spec while trying out all the WoW races. It takes 51 years if you're a casual player who takes around 8 months to level a Vanilla character to 60. Not even counting gearing and raiding here. And you could even go further and do niche/hybrid specializations. Vanilla WoW just never ends.
The gold! On top of all your very valid points, I remember to struggle with gold and the experience to get enough gold for my first mount and to learn how to ride them.
I think Classic is just nostalgia and comfort zone, is just easy. I enjoyed played classic since I am a Warcraft Fan and I know most of the tricks to beat the game, but after a while I felt like I just was wasting my time doing the same repetitive quest over and over. I had some friends into the game, and even though we had a good time playing... is not really a game we could come back. Most ppl also play the game for the warcraft hardcore challenge, big numbers on stream, and their audienes want to play with them, specially since is a simple game. Not planning on going back to Classic ever again but I am glad many ppls just enjoy an old game, as is usual now.
I'm gonna play turtle WoW cause they actually make each subclass viable. I'm sorry but changes shouldn't be demonized when they actually make specs playable.
My biggest reason for me to stick to vanilla is the fact that I'm not forced to lose all my progress whenever they decide to advance into another expansion. I take a very long time to level and gear up, so it's very important to me that I keep and enjoy the rewards for my efforts when I log back into a character I haven't played in a while. They migrated my shammy that took me months to get to 60 without asking me + broke my guild apart by advancing to TBC. It's sad. Even when they do something right by giving us classic I still can't trust Blizzard.
I play retail, well me and my guild, i played classic up to wotlk (ulduar) and left after but vanilla+tbc are a different experience. We came back now because on retail there's a content drought after we cleared mythic raiding and +12 keystones and man, its been so much fun just......joking while levelin. We are not pushing hard, just going around talking on discord while leveling our toons, thats something you miss on retail. I'm not gonna lie, i love pushing hardcore content but those chill times while playing on vanilla slowly leveling a toon are irreplaceable and thats what we love with my friends. Classic it's not about endgame content, it's the journey and the friends you make/hangout with
So crazy that all the things you mentioned don't show in Season of Discovery. I think blizzard really doesn't get what makes vanilla classic so special. Especially the leveling in the open world was so lost in SoD. Such a missed opportunity
My reason for loving Classic WoW so much is simple: to me the leveling process IS the game. I love it. Because it is much slower in Classic, i get to truly enjoy the world and become attached to each character i make. I do wish a larger variety of class roles were viable but that will all be 'fixed' when TBC and Wrath roll around.
@@doomraven0 I never understood the appeal in just rushing to end game. The leveling process is a huge part of the game, people who rush to end game then end up complaining they ran out of things to do.
@DoritosBurger Yes! i am excited to raid on these fresh servers because i have never done the Vanilla raids before but i am switching between characters and absorbing the world. i actually became very attached to my Warlock and Warrior which i have never really spent time with in all ny time on WoW.
The ability to achieve some kind of imbalance and take pleasure in it - that’s the core of Vanilla. The current obsession with "balance" kills the feeling of ultimate uniqueness in your chosen path. Yeah, at some point, some classes (like Warlocks) can be unbearable, but that’s the point. You want to achieve something no one else can compete with. As a Warlock or Priest, you might feel untouchable at times. As a Paladin, you’re loving that bubble and free mount that sets you above the rest. As a Shaman, you get to enjoy your wolf form, speeding past others who don't get it until level 40. As a Rogue - you are the one for PvP and unlocking chests. As a Warrior, you're the tank. Each class has its own ultimate ability, making them irreplaceable in certain situations. And that’s what makes it great.
The points made in this video highlight why Classic will forever have a special place in our hearts. Azeroth is dangerous, gear matters and your next Friend could be right around the corner.
Stats on heirlooms was a huge step in the wrong direction, completely takes out gear progression while leveling It should of just been a tabard or something that gives you an exp boost
Hardcore is so addicting. Every time i come back to classic im reminded that this vsrsion of the game hasnt been matched in the industry for 20 years. The journey, the immersion the progression. So good and so sad the modern MMO space is now blast as fast as possible and ignore everyone. City of Heroes will still be my favorite MMO but classic WoW is something special.
How difficult would it be to remaster it with cutting edge graphics/detail and introduce it to a new generation of players? It's barely a risk for them and they need this to happen.
The key phrase here is "back in the day". As in, when this experience was fresh to everyone. You only really legitimately get that experience once, but ultimately retail WoW became what it is because the players demanded it. People absolutely CAN experience the game in a similar fashion if they. Just. Slow. Down.
yeah, nothing that you just said here is accurate. lore wise you're still some insane god, your action bars are crazy, the crafting system and currencies are more complex, the quests and leveling zones are tiny and repetitive etc. You sound like you never played vanilla
@@nick1177 You sound like you never grew out of it, personally. Vanilla players would've lost their shit playing other MMORPGs of the time, considering how super easy, accessible and casual it was in comparison.
What are you even talking my bro. Even if you play retail in a slow pace it's not an MMO experience in the 1st place. You dont get to see people around the world while leveling and you're not encouraged to socialize. We get it, you enjoy retail, that's fine, but stop pretending that it hasn't become a soulless game in its past decade.
My answer is , are we just going to have 2 x WoW Classics running along side each other ? Or is blizzard going to start doing Classic + and introduce new content / story lines keeping the classic formula. Hell release old expansions but keep the classic formula from vanilla WoW all the way through. I'd love that.
People are more social, I was questing with a random orc player and we were both in our 30s trying to take some shortcut to a zone (forgot where) since it's a PVP server we had to hide behind this huge tree to avoid lvl 60 alliance players. Point being little things like that make classic fun lol
the only thing i wish for classic is better class balance. I dont want to feel useless or forced to play someting i dont want to. SOD is perfect for me since i can feel usefull as any class
This is not true Classic. Megaservers and layering is absolutely horrible and has no place in Classic whatsoever... And being able to change spec anytime anywhere completely destroys the concept of having talent trees and a specialization... This Classic team needs to be fired, especially Aggrend
Retail WoW is just so jittery and frantic. In Vanilla, you could breathe and think in an encounter. I loved playing WoW to relax in Vanilla. You can't chill in Retail
Nixxiom. Dual spec without needing to go to an inn to activate your other spec. is a serious problem in the fresh anniversary realms. We need to get this fixed. The future of vanilla and other possibly TBC Era depend on it.
What’s funny is that, back when WoW Classic was first released it was the least grindy MMO out there. You can get max level in 2-3 months. While contemporary titles will take you at least 6 months of mind numbing grind. You can see RO, L2 and other Korean MMOs back then were super grindy. But not WoW. You can say, Blizzard tuned that grind factor to perfection.
leveling. its the leveling. its not all about the endgame content. if you take classic and turn it into a race to endgame (looking at you, SoD) the game won’t live very long
Immersion is the most important part of MMOs IMO, players will ruin it for themselves with optimization but developers shouldn't cater to that behavior. When your main sell of new gameplay isn't new zones and new adventures but new systems and updates to old systems that people have optimized the fun out of, you're failing to make a good MMO.
My one and only reason for playing classic is grouping up and getting the ZG tiger, it's one regret I have on live.. So I will get that one way or another
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6:30 - in classic wow as soon u accept the first quests in westfall u are called a high ranked member of the whole alliance military btw. and in westfall u are one of only 2 people of the military there. ur second in command. maybe read quest texts, its the first turn in quest u give in at the tower where the flight point is. u earend this title while leveing in elwynn forest. in retail u are also not called an campion at lvl 1 but later sure, same as in classic. i think in retail its lvl 10 when ur something special but classic its lvl 12
@derknusperhase_ivi you dirty Alliance goon FOR THE HORDE
Great to hear man. I love being a dad, great news
NO FLYING - the most underrated classic feature
i hate flying
flying is awesome
@@alexclatonthe act of flying itself is cool, but it is the biggest thing that kills the mmo feeling imo
@@pedrotristao5039 how?
Remember when Blizzard tried to kill flying in retail, and a massive forum response (thousands of pages of comments) made them change their plans?
Hard to put the genie back in the bottle. Most people who disliked flying had already quit. But some came back for Classic!
I bought a mid gaming laptop so I could feel authentic to the vanilla experience and I also became unemployed so I could add to the nostalgia.
Nice. A true classic WoW player 😂
Don't forget to stop taking showers and stock up on cheese poofs and hot pockets.
You have no life because you play wow. No lifer@@eurosonly
@@eurosonly way ahead of you lolololol
Nixiom's hair.. I was not prepared
Many hair. Much yes.
after 200 lbs it hides the cheeks a little smart move
me neither he looks alot like tom bombadil
Diddent know Samwise did wow videos❤
@@NixxiomOnRUclips damn, lend some to the rest of us, or to Asmon, maybe it'll make him happy and he'll stop doing DEI=DIE videos and do something actually fun instead
It is the hero's journey and not the chosen one. People are more social.
Also I shouted out loud when I got my first 6 slot bag drop. That drop felt so rewarding.
This right here
This. The reward vs grind rate is */chefs kiss/*
Them bag drops are such a great early feeling.
I don’t consider myself to be a very social person but in MMOs I really enjoy talking to people. It’s fun to group up with people even if we end up wiping.
_" Nixxiom Bombadil is not real, he can't hurt me. "_
Nixxiom Bombadil: 0:11
@@Ryan_hey Fixed. 👍
Levelling a Tauren Druid in the Barrens is such a charming & adventurous experience. The mobs are sometimes too difficult to kill alone, I ended up grouping three times today, and got thanked twice for buffing random travellers passing by.
I was in your group. You do great!
Chuck Norris once threw a hand grenade and killed fifty people; then it exploded.
@@tiffles3890😂 the endless Chuck Norris jokes makes me miss the good old days even more
@@Edwin-iw8gb I miss Mankrik's wife.
Today most games, specially MMOs are just a "rush to max level to start the actual game", and even after that, everything still feel too fast (Instant dungeon finding, loot everywhere, etc...). That's the reason I like vanilla, the game starts as soon as you create your character and you can enjoy the game while taking your time leveling.
Because Vanilla has no "End Game" that's why you feel lvling is 90% of the whole game rest is doing same raid for same gear just to clear same raid + Nostalgia and the charm of relaxed gameplay knowing what waits in the end unlike retail with real "End game" content that people want to do hence they rush lvling ofc.
Yeah, I think they really killed the dungeon experience when they made everything an AoE pull. No more sheeps or saps, just a tank running in and aoe'ing to hold aggro while everyone dps's. Go faster, take the shortcut/skip, dont bother rezzing, just make them run back while keep clearing. No time for chat or fun, just GRIND.
The journey > end game.
@@bluemyst42 And for what?
Yet you're still going to max level and which is always the end goal. I really believe people who like classic are losers who have no Irl friends.
One VERY underrated aspect of classic wow was questing. I understand that many people find them boring and tedious but to me the sheer size and scope of the world gave it an incredible sense of adventure that is hard to find in other games and grouping up with people to do quests and dungeons heavily elevated the experience.
I think the quest designers did a good job. It's difficult to make the story in a game as enjoyable as a book, where the author controls luck and the complete environment that characters interact with (no random hyenas killing the main character), but quests in original WoW are good enough to let the MMO part of the game shine.
Viewing them as "boring and tedious" is mostly a learned attitude, reinforced by the social network that is retail WoW and the game designers who cater to that attitude by 'streamlining' leveling until it takes only 4 hours to go from 1 to the level cap in retail WoW.
Started again last night... i'm raw-dogging this by playing withOUT questies. It brings the emersion to a whole new level.
Dont use questie but please install the addon Voiceover and enjoy a totally refreshing questing experience. Makes reading/listening to npcs so much more interesting and sometimes fun and hilarious.
I Play healer in wow for 16 years now. Yesterday i healed my First HC group. It feld like healing for the first time again. It was distressing but awesome and the interaction within the group was super nice. Something i haven't experienced in retail for years + I never had fomo once in Classic. I Love it
Hardcore heals is stressful! 😂
I played Classic for a few days. Had fun but too many specs just don't work under vanilla rules.
Just a little story, I joined back up when classic wow hardcore was announced, I do not own the war within and unless I can make enough gold playing classic mists I don't intend to, but my hardcore character originally was my tried and true character JohnyKnack a typical rogue, and I started playing and while interacting with the community in Deathknell the way I always did in retail (Sarcastic and glib) I noticed I wasn't enjoying myself because what I was doing was boring. So I shifted my paradigm, I made a new character Santacloths who's sole goal is to give out free bags to people just starting out in Brill. I leveled my character up and collected all the linen I could as well as taking enchanting for wands (another popular thing) and when I hit the appropriate level I began making and giving away linen bags to people randomly. I'd hop on shout in general that I was in town, jump onto a mailbox and sooner or later people would come. I made over a hundred bags and leveled my tailoring to 120 on bags and bolts alone, and I leveled my enchanting by making robes and disenchanting them then using the essences I'd sometimes get to make wands. I leveled so I could farm the nearby undead for cloth and greens and I noticed something, despite not having left the undead starting area I was having more fun than I had in retail in years. I was not only doing stuff by myself but my actions as Santacloths were impacting the community around me, however small. I had people give me stacks of mats to make free bags for other players or hand over a few copper despite being told it was free, and that was when it clicked with me, exactly what Classic brings that retail had lost and can probably never get back, because honest question. If you were a level 4-5 in Brill in retail world of warcraft and someone offered you a free linen bag or a lesser magic wand, what would your reaction be?
cool story bro or sis
Ok on a more serious note, I was never interested in being someone who talked in-game as though they were actually their character (on Role-playing servers), or who used a roleplaying add-on that let one create a shareable backstory for their character, or who ((talked like this)) on forums to show out-of-character communications, but this kind of gameplay does sound more interesting than, say, retail WoW. Am I setting a low bar there
(Edit: though as I recall I did once act in-game as though I was my in-game character, and maybe it was the unintended consequences of the miscommunication that resulted that made me avoid doing it again. So I shouldn't judge)
Man, I’m having a blast. My son was born in Jan, 2020 and I sort of missed the boat on Classic to an extent.
I’ve been playing on the Anniversary Realms since they opened and I’m in love. I’ve always played hybrid specs… in retail I main Druid and Monk. But in Classic I know I just don’t have the time to invest in things like offspecs. So, I rolled a Rogue and it’s just so much fun. I especially like how impactful professions are. I’m excited to raid, but for now I’m just taking in all there is to the leveling process :)
Just wrapped up Dun Morogh, did some loch modan, tossed a coin between westfall and darkshore for the grind to level 20. Darkshore here I come. It’s so good.
dont let asmongold see this video. :D
Can't wait to see him take over an hour to re-explain this entire video
Reported
He was wrong about it then. And is wrong about it now. He doesn't play anymore, and never understood HC, nor Classic players truly. The problem is that he thinks he does. He just can't step away from his own perspective.
If you weren’t there from the beginning in 2004 you won’t get it. Classic will always be special.
@@DoritosBurger but i started playing WoW in 2010 and enjoy classic?
As someone played both Classic and Retail, I'm lad there's a space for both types of games. Sometimes I just want to enjoy the slowburn of Vanilla that delivers high highs when I get an upgrade, and a community who also enjoys the slow paced journey. But sometimes I just want more places to explore, more side content to do, and grind for cosmetic rewards that respect my limited time, which is what Retail provides. It's sometimes sad to see the unnecessary tribalism between the two versions of the game, when its obvious that both versions cater to different tastes. This community deserves better than to rip each other apart for something they enjoy.
I definitely agree! Sometimes I want the slower paced game to relax from a long day and sometimes I want the go go go go haha
community is really better in classic but what amazes me is how these people, presumably around 30-40 ish years old, having families, work and stuff can afford to play such grindy game
Id rather spend an hour or two of my free time to game 1 level and feel satisfied. Unlike retail, where one hour of gameplay is 10-20 levels or 4-5 heroic dungeons of no loot.
Well, not every 30-40 year old has a family to take care of, you know?
I have 3 kids a full time job and a wife. After we get the kiddos down to bed around 830ish we call my brother and all hop on to play an hour or 2 of HC wow, we take it slow and enjoy the game as it is. Rushing is HC sets you back anyway haha
I was so excited for fresh servers and 2 weeks in it has made me realize how much I love the older versions of this game. I love the adventure to 60 being the bulk of the game and endgame being a much smaller part than it is today.
The delay in rewards and next to no instant gratification makes every level and item upgrade feel exponentially better than it does in retail. You really feel your character getting stronger over time. Its simply a much more rewarding experience in my opinion.
Can’t explain something that doesn’t have an explanation. Classic is perfectly imperfect
It would be good if people stopped playing it in single player mode.
I'm a Classic fan on the verge to go back to retail due to the player base: people stubbornly doing quests alone, dumbsters looking at other players dieing without moving a finger under aggroed mobs, total noobs with RestedXP and so on.
What's the addon that makes your quest log look the way it does at 8:35?
I wander too. Pls tell somebody
Dialogue UI!
@@icyelk ♥️
Leveling new characters > end game raiding.
**unless you’re the leader reaping all the end game rewards for yourself #hardreserved
I started playing WoW Classic, and WoW as a whole, for the first time with the new Classic fresh servers, I have been watching your videos for about a year now and they always very well made and it's always a pleasure to see how passionate you are about the game in every video, thank you for your videos
Fresh classic gives me a half chubby. Sometimes i just run around on my orc licking Gnomes.
I've been having a ball on Classic fresh servers. I also started the game back in 2005, and even though I still play it, the retail version has definitely lost a few of the things that made the game special. I'm a 43 Holy/Disc priest this time around, and although I won't make 60 by the time MC releases, I'll definitely be raiding with my guild in week two.
"A few things"? Retail is literally soulless bro
@@Weavelol There are still parts of retail I enjoy, but not the same things I enjoy about classic. The raids are much more challenging, Mythic+ offers a challenge for much less time investment, and the collection systems offer unlimited things to chase.
It's mainly the community side that has been diluted, and the levelling journey is completely irrelevant because you can get to max level within a single day.
@@JustS0meK1dd Respectable opinion, fun is subjective after all
What's MC?
I wish someone like Nixxiom or any other streamer/youtuber that claims the classic community is fantastic and so friendly and lovely towards each other would go "under cover" so to speak. Ya'know, claim they're going on vacation for a few days but secretly play the game off stream on a brand new account that has 0 ties to who they are as a content creator and just play a class like say Paladin that's generally shunned by the community until 60. I've been leveling a Paladin in classic fresh and my god this community is full of toxic, elitist jackasses. There's people who read that last sentence and checked out and so they're not gonna see that I'll say that I know not everybody is like that, but there is a SIGNIFICANT number of people in this community, enough to where running into people like that is a more than once a day occurrence. Try playing a Paladin and see how many groups you get kicked out of or just outright not invited to because the Warriors don't want you taking their gear and the Mages/Warlocks/Priests don't want you taking theirs, or a Priest that's not a Dwarf on Alliance side and listen to how many people tell you you're simply not gonna have a raid spot then. Play an Arcane Mage I fuckin' dare you. See what happens the moment in a dungeon you fire off an Arcane Missile. The classic community is toxic af if you're not playing the way the community has deemed the best way to play. Nixxiom and other content creators live and work in a bubble because they're only ever surrounded by sycophants that would suck the sploodge off their nuts at the slightest side glance of acknowledgement.
Play hardcore, where people don't expect to keep their stuff (items) and so they don't try to optimize to get items as efficiently as possible by being rude to others
>the moment in a dungeon you fire off an Arcane Missile
What, do people not spec for clearcasting these days? Highest mana-cost single-target spell, and it also has use as a finisher spell due to mana regen starting as soon as it finishes
Great video! My favorite part of playing classic WoW is the community. Another thing about Classic WoW, it's not a walking advertisement filled with FOMO.
And then the guild GF gets all the gear.
The world was the star of WoW back in the day… I’ll never forget exploring the world, it felt like being an actual adventurer. It’s a feeling that is rare but powerful, I think the only other games that had that vibe to me were Skyrim, Witcher 3, and Elden Ring.
Its just a great game, and a unique experience. Classic WoW has a timelessness to it that can never be replicated.
Weird Nixxiom Yankovic xD
I've been playing on and off since Xmas of 04 and I have recently been hooked on hc classic. It brings the nostalgia of every death mattering to my 10-11 year old self like it used to be, everyone is a significant part of the world in HC that it really breathes life into the world in a whole new way that I love
I remember trying to make quesadillas while we were waiting for raids to fill up...I really miss pre 2010
I always liked the slower leveling, just being immersed in the zone, maybe having to find some other players to help with a quest. It's WAY better than getting an expansion, blowing through it in a few hours then just teleporting to raids. Retail is missing the WORLD part of Warcraft. Also, GREAT video that perfectly explains why Classic WoW is so good. Really agree with how upgrades feel earned and impactful. Most of all, same as you, I'll never forget those friends from back in 2004-2006 or so, it took a LOT of work from 40+ people to down Ragnaros and it's still my favorite moment in all my years of gaming. I didn't plan on playing WoW Classic again, but I think after watching this video I may check the new servers out.
I think if retail didn't have item level and went back to like chasing stats or farming for that ONE piece of gear that does feel impactful etc. Would be a good idea.
Being a nobody in Elwynn and chipping in where a warrior with a strong arm could was the best. Getting my first green or crafting it - how wonderful.
I’m a new player to WOW just started playing this week and I love the game
There is so much content and meeting people and doing quests with them feels so fun and authentic
I can’t believe I have never played this game and I’m probably never gonna stop
I remember leveling through Ghostlands in 2007. We were inside the tombs there. A rogue named Seandawg made us neck pieces with the new jewel crafting profession. Thanks Seandawg.
I like the graphics of WOW classic better than most modern games and the physics have held up better than many games released today.
I think retail looks great, I wish some of that aesthetic could come to classic. I like that the combat animations match whats happening instead of my character swinging a sword once while a bunch of numbers pop up or worse, misses/parries. The problem is that if you let Blizz start to make changes (even ones we want) they wont stop until theyve killed it.
@@bluemyst42 Idk man I disagree with that take. Classic combat is realistic which makes me feel more immersed in the game. Retail combat is so flashy and overdone it's literally like playing league. Feels out of place
I like playing retail mostly these days but classic is a nice mixup for more than just nostalgia. I like being a generic adventurer/mercenary in a hostile world. It’s fun just being a cog in the wheel for once
Classic is worse than retail in nearly every single way. I recently left Season of Discovery and returned to retail and everything has been SO MUCH BETTER :). You get vaults, weekly quests, events, active pvp and mythic+ dungeons. With Classic you get NOTHING. Everything takes hours longer and there is no LFD or LFR to find a raid. PVP is basically dead in Classic. No mythic+. Same raids you have done 1000x such as Molten Core. Classic is BORING and I am never going back.
I have so many memories about classic wow, but they got less common as the expansions came.
Bro this is like half vid reuploded
0:11 - missed an opportunity to have a fan blowing with slo-mo. :(
People who never got to play classic and are currently in retail always say “it’s lame” or “youre just wearing rose tinted glasses” and then they try it and love it
The stat I want to know is how many brand new players has WoW Classic attracted and retained. I can't imagine that number is very high. Unless you grew up on it, I can't imagine a younger generation digging the gameplay of WoW Classic.
Depends if the young ones enjoyed RPGs like Baldur’s Gate 3 etc, it’s not really for the CoD FIFA crowd, but I don’t know what the fuck Gen Z likes?
Gen shin Impacts seems close?
@@chronology556 But WoW Classic (and retail) isn't anything like a CRPG like Baldur's Gate 3. In BG3 you have a ton of character options to create a very unique character to role-play as. In WoW, apart from your looks, everyone's playing the same character based on class. In BG3, you have a ton of attack and interactivity options. In WoW you spam the same main abilities over and over. And the most interaction you have is to sit in a chair. Your choices in WoW don't affect the overall narrative or world in Azeroth like they do in BG3.
Berfore watching:
the world, the nostalgia, the questing, the journey to 60, the coziness, the rpg elements that matter (ammunition for hunter, feeding the pet, drinking water/milk for mana), the well balanced, raw gameplay, the beautiful graphics (for those who love em) and the original UI, the actual need to group up and talk to people, helping each other out. Shortly: it’s the best MMORPG ever made.
I agree with most things you said but the gameplay is anything but balanced. There is a plethora of specs that aren’t even playable because they weren’t fleshed out enough or their damage was abysmal.
@@McLean757 Maybe I don’t actually mean well balanced in the classical sense, but at least I have the feeling that the progress feels important and fair. It’s pretty easy to keep your professions up at least as a hunter with skinning and leatherworking, because you gain resources while you’re leveling/killing mobs. Sure, it’s a lil different with other professions. And every encounter feels rewarding to overcome, every elite feels even better. It just feels right in most cases, that’s what I was trying to say.
Grind Is meaningful, every little gear upgrade Feels great. Even if i can log in only for 30 minutes i am satisfied with few bars to my level, that one quest i just progressed, or even new flightpath i spend those 30 mins getting to.
this is why i like classic and tbc: character and gear progression feels significant and satisfying. everything you do feels like it matters. the pace of the game is also slower, and unless youre doing something like a classic server with a 16 week per phase schedule, you dont really feel rushed.
my heart was poundin when i went to Maraudon in Hardcore, the healer disconnected and we just pulled the 2 giants just before Princess....well, only the tank died but man, the adrenaline is insane and no other game will give me this.
It’s simple “end game” starts at level 1.
No strict meta, no battle passes, no repetitive grinding for time-limited, developer-enforced rewards, and no FOMO. Classic WoW feels like a return to the PS2-era philosophy of gaming, where exploration and discovery are key. You play the game at your own pace, with the freedom to approach it however you want, rather than being guided by how the developers think you should play.
I leveled 2 toons to 80 in retail. It has no soul. Constantly getting one shot.
Ya know, it's been great watching your videos over the years. I remember watching your early stuff back in the day and playing wow since vanilla has been a trip. I've been enjoying coming back to classic over and over and it feels like home. 😅
I really love classic and i created new character on fresh server , but after hitting level 20 i asked myself this " why am i leveling another character , this will be like my 15th character on this new Classis wow servers , just enough is enough , doing the same thing over and over again" i would really like to play it , but i just have to force myself to do it , not having fun anymore....
Because this type of game is only meant to be fun once. If you’re not in it to do end game content with a decent group of people by the end of your lvling, then what is the point? What is the difference between playing a stupid fresh server and playing by yourself in retail with way more things to do or play a private server? 😒 People are so blinded by nostalgia and miss a tine they had friends who also had time to play this game, when no one knew anything
@@wuzittooya Straight to the point , it only hits for the first time , now i know every route , every quest location , what to do etc , not fun anymore... End game could be fun but first of all i have done all of that before ( few times ) and also adult life does not let me spend as much time as i would like to.
@@wuzittooyaAnd like why do you all flow to classic playerbase and try to get em into retail?
I didn't play Classic the first time around, but with the anniversary realms I wanted to play to experience the old story again like I did back in Vanilla. But then I spend time leveling my tailoring and made my first green item and equipped it, it felt good.
LFM Arena, Anger , Golem spam runs (SGC , HOJ HR ) this has been my classic experience
not only do I like the gear in classic, I like the pace in which you unlock gear slots.
I went and asked ChatGPT how long it would take me to have one character per class spec while trying out all the WoW races.
It takes 51 years if you're a casual player who takes around 8 months to level a Vanilla character to 60. Not even counting gearing and raiding here. And you could even go further and do niche/hybrid specializations. Vanilla WoW just never ends.
The gold! On top of all your very valid points, I remember to struggle with gold and the experience to get enough gold for my first mount and to learn how to ride them.
Lol first few secs into the vid and Nixxiom going all medieval with his looks :D Love the new style Nixxiom :)
I think Classic is just nostalgia and comfort zone, is just easy. I enjoyed played classic since I am a Warcraft Fan and I know most of the tricks to beat the game, but after a while I felt like I just was wasting my time doing the same repetitive quest over and over. I had some friends into the game, and even though we had a good time playing... is not really a game we could come back. Most ppl also play the game for the warcraft hardcore challenge, big numbers on stream, and their audienes want to play with them, specially since is a simple game.
Not planning on going back to Classic ever again but I am glad many ppls just enjoy an old game, as is usual now.
Crazy timing, I’m a mage who just got the robes of arugal last night and yeah it felt incredible
Love it to fight trash mobs for an hour in dungeons and defeat the boss that drops a cloth item with agility on it. Absolutely nostalgic
I'm gonna play turtle WoW cause they actually make each subclass viable. I'm sorry but changes shouldn't be demonized when they actually make specs playable.
Exactly. Not sure why people are clamoring to play a version of the game (again) that just pigeonholed everyone
@wuzittooya its a figured out game. Play something a little different with new content. Easy choice
When I log in into my original server with my original character, I still receive whisper of people that I leveled with in vanilla…
Great, now I’m playing WoW again. That’s what I get for supporting Nixxiom.
See you next video.
Nixxiom is slowing turning into a WoW version of Alan Moore.
My biggest reason for me to stick to vanilla is the fact that I'm not forced to lose all my progress whenever they decide to advance into another expansion. I take a very long time to level and gear up, so it's very important to me that I keep and enjoy the rewards for my efforts when I log back into a character I haven't played in a while.
They migrated my shammy that took me months to get to 60 without asking me + broke my guild apart by advancing to TBC. It's sad. Even when they do something right by giving us classic I still can't trust Blizzard.
I play retail, well me and my guild, i played classic up to wotlk (ulduar) and left after but vanilla+tbc are a different experience. We came back now because on retail there's a content drought after we cleared mythic raiding and +12 keystones and man, its been so much fun just......joking while levelin. We are not pushing hard, just going around talking on discord while leveling our toons, thats something you miss on retail. I'm not gonna lie, i love pushing hardcore content but those chill times while playing on vanilla slowly leveling a toon are irreplaceable and thats what we love with my friends.
Classic it's not about endgame content, it's the journey and the friends you make/hangout with
So crazy that all the things you mentioned don't show in Season of Discovery. I think blizzard really doesn't get what makes vanilla classic so special. Especially the leveling in the open world was so lost in SoD. Such a missed opportunity
My reason for loving Classic WoW so much is simple: to me the leveling process IS the game. I love it. Because it is much slower in Classic, i get to truly enjoy the world and become attached to each character i make. I do wish a larger variety of class roles were viable but that will all be 'fixed' when TBC and Wrath roll around.
@@doomraven0 I never understood the appeal in just rushing to end game. The leveling process is a huge part of the game, people who rush to end game then end up complaining they ran out of things to do.
@DoritosBurger Yes! i am excited to raid on these fresh servers because i have never done the Vanilla raids before but i am switching between characters and absorbing the world. i actually became very attached to my Warlock and Warrior which i have never really spent time with in all ny time on WoW.
The ability to achieve some kind of imbalance and take pleasure in it - that’s the core of Vanilla. The current obsession with "balance" kills the feeling of ultimate uniqueness in your chosen path. Yeah, at some point, some classes (like Warlocks) can be unbearable, but that’s the point. You want to achieve something no one else can compete with. As a Warlock or Priest, you might feel untouchable at times. As a Paladin, you’re loving that bubble and free mount that sets you above the rest. As a Shaman, you get to enjoy your wolf form, speeding past others who don't get it until level 40. As a Rogue - you are the one for PvP and unlocking chests. As a Warrior, you're the tank. Each class has its own ultimate ability, making them irreplaceable in certain situations. And that’s what makes it great.
That is some extremely low aykyuu bullshit you are shoveling there.
@@txdmsk Thanks, dude
The points made in this video highlight why Classic will forever have a special place in our hearts. Azeroth is dangerous, gear matters and your next Friend could be right around the corner.
If people loved Classic so much, there wouldn’t be a dozen people playing Classic Era before the fresh launches.
Timeless Classic. No expansion even comes remotely close to the success of vanilla, by orders of magnitude.
LOVING the nordic Viking look dude. You should do a few Cos Plays of a Berserker
Stats on heirlooms was a huge step in the wrong direction, completely takes out gear progression while leveling
It should of just been a tabard or something that gives you an exp boost
I have zero desire to play Classic, but I'm genuinely happy this mode exists for yall
Hardcore is so addicting. Every time i come back to classic im reminded that this vsrsion of the game hasnt been matched in the industry for 20 years. The journey, the immersion the progression. So good and so sad the modern MMO space is now blast as fast as possible and ignore everyone. City of Heroes will still be my favorite MMO but classic WoW is something special.
How difficult would it be to remaster it with cutting edge graphics/detail and introduce it to a new generation of players?
It's barely a risk for them and they need this to happen.
The key phrase here is "back in the day". As in, when this experience was fresh to everyone. You only really legitimately get that experience once, but ultimately retail WoW became what it is because the players demanded it. People absolutely CAN experience the game in a similar fashion if they. Just. Slow. Down.
yeah, nothing that you just said here is accurate. lore wise you're still some insane god, your action bars are crazy, the crafting system and currencies are more complex, the quests and leveling zones are tiny and repetitive etc. You sound like you never played vanilla
@@nick1177 You sound like you never grew out of it, personally. Vanilla players would've lost their shit playing other MMORPGs of the time, considering how super easy, accessible and casual it was in comparison.
What are you even talking my bro. Even if you play retail in a slow pace it's not an MMO experience in the 1st place. You dont get to see people around the world while leveling and you're not encouraged to socialize. We get it, you enjoy retail, that's fine, but stop pretending that it hasn't become a soulless game in its past decade.
My answer is , are we just going to have 2 x WoW Classics running along side each other ? Or is blizzard going to start doing Classic + and introduce new content / story lines keeping the classic formula.
Hell release old expansions but keep the classic formula from vanilla WoW all the way through. I'd love that.
What addons do you use? Especially the UI addon for accepting quests and stuff, it looks sick :D
People are more social, I was questing with a random orc player and we were both in our 30s trying to take some shortcut to a zone (forgot where) since it's a PVP server we had to hide behind this huge tree to avoid lvl 60 alliance players. Point being little things like that make classic fun lol
the only thing i wish for classic is better class balance. I dont want to feel useless or forced to play someting i dont want to. SOD is perfect for me since i can feel usefull as any class
the game until Wrath of the Lich king was one of the best gaming experiences
It's because it's an actual MMORPG, and not an instanced dungeon- and raid-simulator lobbygame.
This is not true Classic.
Megaservers and layering is absolutely horrible and has no place in Classic whatsoever...
And being able to change spec anytime anywhere completely destroys the concept of having talent trees and a specialization...
This Classic team needs to be fired, especially Aggrend
Retail WoW is just so jittery and frantic.
In Vanilla, you could breathe and think in an encounter. I loved playing WoW to relax in Vanilla. You can't chill in Retail
Nixxiom. Dual spec without needing to go to an inn to activate your other spec. is a serious problem in the fresh anniversary realms. We need to get this fixed. The future of vanilla and other possibly TBC Era depend on it.
Nixxiom and Accolonn rocking the greatest hair in the community
It’s not bloated and no auto-queues to randoms who feel like npcs (more social interaction)
Cata killed the raiding scene again but I can’t do fresh classic again… I’m letting the sun go out on the 20th and im retiring
We’re old.
Did you kill Balderton?
What’s funny is that, back when WoW Classic was first released it was the least grindy MMO out there. You can get max level in 2-3 months. While contemporary titles will take you at least 6 months of mind numbing grind.
You can see RO, L2 and other Korean MMOs back then were super grindy. But not WoW. You can say, Blizzard tuned that grind factor to perfection.
leveling. its the leveling. its not all about the endgame content. if you take classic and turn it into a race to endgame (looking at you, SoD) the game won’t live very long
Immersion is the most important part of MMOs IMO, players will ruin it for themselves with optimization but developers shouldn't cater to that behavior. When your main sell of new gameplay isn't new zones and new adventures but new systems and updates to old systems that people have optimized the fun out of, you're failing to make a good MMO.
My one and only reason for playing classic is grouping up and getting the ZG tiger, it's one regret I have on live.. So I will get that one way or another