That didn't go as well as I had hoped - quatrfoil grill final assembly
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024
- Looking at the final assembly of the quatrafoil grill, we need to look at the bow tie elements and some hot collars to hold the whole thing together. Luckily this is just a practice piece because it didn't go together well.
My name is John Switzer, thank you for watching. Black Bear Forge is a small one person shop located in the Southern Colorado Mountains
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I really enjoy that you don't use the magic of youtube to erase your mistakes and even go a step further by pointing them out and acknowledging them. A former teacher of mine told me once, if everything goes right the first time, you don't learn anything. It is through our mistakes that learning actually takes place. You pointing them out also helps with my own confidence when I run into mistakes, knowing that even someone with all of your knowledge and experience sometimes runs into problems. Thank you again for sharing all of your knowledge and helping to keep this craft alive. It is more appreciated than you know!
mistakes can sometimes turn into new technics.
@mojo65 🤔Technics??? 😂 Most of the time it’ll help you learn a new technique...rarely will a mistake help you learn new technics. Proof read ya words homeslice😉
@@justincasey_grabbederpussy6756 piss off.
You’re welcome my friend. Another great video for all of us learning. Talk soon
eric douglas this was so nice of you
I still can't believe I got your name wrong
This is what makes a good teacher and how you point out what could have been fixed an how . U take pride in the work that you do .👍
I admire the honesty and can empathize with you. If you know the mistake exists, irregardless of its size, its going to be a bother.
You never know what you’re capable of and you’ll never learn from your mistakes if you don’t try.
Great video john glad to see some more traditional Ironwork on the platform! :-) one fix for the loose collar would be to clamp the sides of the collar and then heat the front of the collar to lightly hammer from the corners into the center... This upsets the slack that's in the collar and it will tighten right up :-)
Great technique, thanks
@@BlackBearForge your welcome john keep up the awesome work my friend!
Thanks to Doug. What a great way to support the channel!
Counter-examples are often more instructive than a perfectly executed project. Thanks for sharing.
Really enjoyed this short series. Also appreciate the candid discussion on what went correct as well as not. Thx.
Being a master at your job doesn’t mean getting it right the first time, it’s having the experience and knowledge to work WITH or around the mistakes. Nothing but respect! 👍✌️❤️🇨🇦
This video is a success as far as I'm concerned, John. I have been playing around with what I call "snowflakes" for the past several days. The scrolls do require a lot of fiddling around to get them all to "kiss" at just the right spot for collaring. I learned several little things by watching you pull this project together. Thanks again for your efforts.
Gotta love a teacher willing to admit a few mistakes, still think project will look great hanging in your shop. Hope you hang it someplace where we will be able to see it once in a while. 😊
So endearing and downright awesome to see someone as ostensibly old school as John, really embracing the RUclipsr life.
Great project, John. I really appreciate you showing not only your successes, but also your 'failures'. You are a great teacher. Thanks.
Thanks John! Sharing mistakes and showing how to fix them is some of the most educational information. Seeing something done perfectly doesn't prepare people for the mistakes they're likely to make on their first attempt.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for your work john! love your channel so much!
I am like you John I don’t want to coverup anything much less a weld. I am by no means as good as you, but by following the same rules as you is making me better everyday I am in the shop.
That would make a really cool window. Now I want to do a bunch of these with a variety of natural elements and make a gorgeous greenhouse.
Thats the spirit. Have fun
Awesome learning experience as a viewer (as always). Great job and thanks for the fantastic videos, John!
I learned a lot! I always learn from your videos! Appreciate your hard work! Thank you and God Bless you!
This is a great project and video. Solving the difficulties we encounter while making something is where so much learning occurs --- and some frustration. Thanks for posting this!
Great video, as usual. I kinda got a little giggle watching the show as I was wearing the exact same shirt! Now I need to get out to the shop and make something.
On the grille, it's a great learning opportunity that I need to do more of. I'm the guy that hates burning fuel if it's not for a customer's order. It's an old habit I got into and has been really hard to break. I'm not opposed to doing a tack weld on the pieces. I understand not wanting to rely on the welds to hold the whole thing together, but being a one-man operation like yourself, I find a little tack weld just makes things easier for me to manage as I do the collars. Maybe if I had a big ol' Acorn table or apprentice to help hold things in place I wouldn't tack as much as I have. Nothing makes me start cussing like having everything flopping around while I'm trying to set the collar. :D
Again, great work. You're doing something really wonderful for the community.
Thanks JOHN for showing your mistakes . but I have to say I wish my work looked as good as your good mistakes .cheers
Thank you so much for all that you do, good and bad. most of my mistakes turn into my best work. trying to make one thing and wind up making something else.
Wonderful. Mistakes are the best teacher - if you don't have a master to follow :)
I try and find my mistakes and realize why they had happened, why I did them, how and how to fix them and actually use them to be better, round corners, etc.
I definitely learn a lot from that.
John, the grill looks just fine. You have been too close to it to see the minute imperfections, but to the casual observer, they will never become apparent. You are your worst critic!!
One tip I might add to help keep things in alignment and fit. When I do multiple scrolls, circles, arcs, etc. on a large piece like this, I number or otherwise mark (tick marks for example) each component and it's corresponding match point. That way when you have everything fit together and in it's place, they will be correct when you disassemble it for some purpose prior to the final assembly, and the pieces all go in their proper place.
The first collar I ever made was in a class under the watchful eye of the instructor. It came out perfect. So, naturally, I was over confident and the next ones were one failure after another. It took several more before I matched the first result. Live and learn.
Mosquitos! they are the bane of my existence in my forge sometimes too. Aggravating. Anyway, great project and a great learning opportunity.
I would have never known of the misalignment until you put a straight edge on at the end and pointed things out. I thought and still think it's a great piece of metal art. I understand your want to improve your skills. I am the same however I just love it and if you don't like it you can send it to me. LOL. I'd gladly hang it in my home. As always thanks for the lesson John!
Thank you for the comment
I like the trick of bending the collar over a block in the vise. I have had problems in the past and this will help. Thanks again for the tips.
Hey John, I'm not a blacksmith nor do I have any intentions at the moment to try, but I've gotta say your videos are top notch and very interesting.👍
Seriously a good attitude to have! Thanks for sharing
Hi John yeah I do practice pieces it's better to burn $40 in pine then $300 in purple heart I understand
I'm really enjoying your videos. I've seen so many knife making and ornament making with welding (stick or mig) that I'm sick of them. I feel cheated even when they use a power hammer (basically a press) I appreciate that you do so much with hand tools, many if not most of them you made.
Thank you John great project I have gotten a lot out of the videos on this one I am looking forward to putting one together to see how I can make out with it. Thanks again. When those peices didn't line up my father would have said they were drunk and started over
You made it successful for us! Loved it. Encore!
So much learned...so much yet to learn! Your a wealth of knowledge to us newby fellas...we definitely appreciated this opportunity to learn from and with you. After trying most of this....boy howdy I need alot more practice!!
🙏blessed days sirSir
Crawford out 🧙♂️
Good for learning not so much for showing off your skill, and you have skills. Nobody gets it right every time. Still enjoyed watching you work.
I had my first attempt at making a spade finial last weekend. You make it look a lot easier than it was for me!
Hey John.. would you sell me your mistake? I like it! My home is made up as a cabin style home inside.. (even though it is a boring in city house) and I am about to have some iron work done for the house.. I like that piece mistakes and all and would love to have it hang in my living room or bed room.. at any rate... well done.. I would have loved to have done this when I was young.. I was just never really exposed to it much.. the only time I was around forged things was old chuck our farrier when he made horse shoes for my grandad at the ranch.. But the was back when Moses and I hung out.. you remember.. before the invention of dirt.. Thanks for the share my friend and carry on.. glad to see the hand is all good again..
I think we all leared a lot from that John but Don'r be too critical of your work.. Your stuff is amazing...I guess it's normal to start with the best intentions and re-adust on completion
I have a couple thoughts - of all the things we do in life, some require good outcomes regardless of the process. Some things require good process regardless of the outcome.
Others have touched on this, it's vastly more beneficial to see the errors and how to overcome them. We learn very little when we nail the outcome the first time. Often we learn much more from making errors and fixing them, and using bad judgement and learning the consequences.
You are still a great guy and teacher thank you
Ustacım ellerin dert görmesin. Çok güzel oldu.👍👍👍
Learning exercises are always good!!!
It’s never a mistake... it’s a learning lesson to do better next time!
(The 3 L’s in life: Look, Listen, and learn )
Great video John!
You are a Humble masters...Thanks for the vidoes!
Your collar(s) ended up too short? Same here. After your other video on making hot collars following Francis Whitaker's formula, I decided to try my first hot collars. I too, decided to file/grind the bevels rather than forge them. My collar, which was 1/8" x 1", wrapped around two 1/2" square rods. It came up 1/8" short of closing.
great vid john, indeed you learn alot more from the stuff that failed
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I love this, so inspirational. I would love to see it when you fix the corner - could you show it in a future video. Thanks for your work.
Uhhhggg collars! LOL Good lesson for us all. Thanks John.
Great learning project. Looks pretty nice for all of the mistakes you showed us.
great video thanks for the info. I always learn something from your videos
I’m going to try this project.
Have fun with it
Good video.
Love the design! U Da Man!
I like this man
IDK, I really like it!Rustic and beautiful and not perfect and that OK since I like iron art alot.
A realy great video
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I know this is way after the fact. I was wondering if heating and quenching the loose collar would shrink it enough to tighten it.
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That’s a hard one to do. Again you made it look easy even thro your not happy with it.
hah we just put up led's in the shop we are putting up careful if you use tons of them and its dark you flip the switch it will blind you they dont come up slowly like florecent lights they are right up well at least in warm weather , but there is also no replacing the one bulb or diode you have to replace the whole thing the way ours are made it seems. and failures well we all try new things with materials dont beat yourself up we all monkey stuff up once in a while
I have seen some high dollar LED fixtures that have replaceable bulbs. But they are way more expensive.
@@BlackBearForge i bet they are, these were not cheap of course leds are said to last more then five times as long as the other forms of lights and use less power, but your buying a whole unit thats the thing on section goes out well then thats that much less light its putting out before you have to replace the whole thing for 80+ dollers
Hi John I made A Similar mistake But that's HowWe Lurn I always Lurn From your Videos Thank You so be much popaJohns Forge
I'd have a go at heating that loose collar and giving it a good squeeze with a set of vice grips. Then I would resort to the welder :)
Pretty much exactly what I ended up doing.
Can you please tell me where you purchased that folding rule ?
All the ones I have seen seem to appear out of nowhere in toolboxes. I don't know where mine came from...
The black one is an antique I bought off of ebay many years ago
Now, I ain't no big city blacksmith or fabricator, but, I believe that thing you're working on is called a "finial", not a final.
The thing is a finial. But this is the final assembly of the project as in done or finished.
John hi
I understand perfectly where you are coming from, easy fixes may satisfy most but you will always know the job was not the best you could do at that annoys you. I have the same illness, strive to produce the best you are capable of and put up with tiny imperfections if you know its the best you are capable of! Although that too can be damn annoying!
Failure? No, just a little tweeking and she'll be poifekt!!!
As craftsman, we are always our worst critics...I feel there is too much emphasis on perfection in modern craftsmanship, which is contrary to the reason we make things by hand. I came to this realization reading a blog post of Chris Schwartz in which he was sweating a gap of 1/128"....in wood... tomorrow the piece will be a different size. He decided to resize a drill bit to account for it. A true craftsman making a living would not have the luxury of wasting so much valuable time on a triviality.
There is no shame in compromising to 'fix' the piece to hang it in your house...customers buying hand made work will not care if you compromised to make the piece work, otherwise they would buy factory made crap. A close look at the work of even the great recognized masters of their craft will find occasional mistakes and fixes. Take apart an old timber frame structure and you will find mis-cut parts and shims galore to make the building work. In other words, cut yourself some slack once in awhile.
Metric system isn't all its cracked up to be...not even close..but great video as always.