The UFO Movie THEY Don't Want You to See (2023)
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
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Movie website - theufo.movie
WINNER, BEST DOCUMENTARY - Brooklyn SciFi Film Festival, 2023
WINNER, BEST DIRECTOR - L.A. Sci-Fi & Horror Festival, 2023
FINALIST - Raw Science Film Festival, 2023
FINALIST - Galactic Imaginarium Film Festival, 2023
HONORABLE MENTION - Athens International Monthly Art Film Festival, 2024
SEMI-FINALIST - White Vulture Film Festival, 2023
"Who are THEY?" is answered on the movie's FAQ page: www.briandunning.com/ufo/faq.php
"The UFO Movie THEY Don't Want You to See" is a feature-length indie documentary film produced by Brian Dunning. In an age when misinformation, alternative facts, and conspiracy theories have become mainstream, UFOs have risen to become one of the most-talked about pop culture phenomena. With all of this noise, how can we expect anyone to know how much of this is true? What is in our skies? What do we know, and how do we know it? And most importantly: Are we being visited?
Science does have most of these answers, and we're working on answering the rest of them. The film features experts in:
• Physics & relativity
• Exobiology
• Exoplanetary spectral analysis
• Image analysis
• Pilot training and air traffic control
• Defense
"The UFO Movie THEY Don't Want You to See" lays out for you exactly what we know and how we know it.
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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:55 Who is out there?
00:09:27 Would they be interested in us?
00:12:09 Faster than light travel
00:15:35 The Christmas tree problem
00:17:32 Can aliens skirt physics?
00:21:06 A high bar for evidence
00:24:45 Solved UFO cases
00:29:31 Examining the evidence
00:30:11 Rendlesham Forest
00:33:52 The Ariel School
00:37:39 1967 Malmstrom AFB
00:46:36 The Jimmy Carter UFO
00:54:22 Navy UFO videos
01:15:44 Secret military aircraft
01:19:22 Who are the best experts?
01:25:06 Where will we find them? 
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What we also learned here is the one of the lowest bars for intelligence and critical thinking is the United States Congress.
Which was a big surprise...
@@mikloskallo9046 i was shocked, lol.
Who rounded up the usual suspects
I know and how sad is that? It's downright embarrassing.
I can see why this is in the "science fiction" category. This garbage production says nothing authoritative, whatsoever. Astronaut Gordon Cooper, Capt. Robert O. Dean, Dr. Steven Greer, Pilot John Lear, Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, and hundreds of other truthful witnesses are the men you should listen to. "The Disclosure Project" is another good source. And this clown Dunning picks apart a fake"UFO" film put out by the government, (the tic tac) that most know it was fake, but presented on the news as if it were real. Calling a fake film fake is not much to be proud of.
I think the most revealing thing about this video is the ATC saying pilots report wrong altitude all the time...That's something I don't want to hear.
My reply to this ... honest report!:
So everybody is simply wrong and are making hundreds if not thousands of observational mistakes including trained veterans and professionals from the domestic airline sector and air forces ect all around the world, and none of our world leaders and politicians would lie to us? Thank you for clearing that up for me!
Pilots very rarely report altitude verbally...on board transponder does it electronically.
🤔If any one, we should be believing our pilots because they know they see what’s in the sky almost on a daily basis they are trained to tell the difference like that’s when I started to believe is when I heard a few pilots come forward..Smh
Right
@@sqengineer I don't think that's 100% of the time. I've heard ATC transmissions whereby the controller asks the pilot "what is your current altitude?" Maybe it's a cross-check by the controller to match the transponder's number with the pilot's altimeter?
I’m 73 and in 1969 I saw a triangular solid black object hovering 100 feet over my head in 35 to 40 mph wind gusts. It was completely black against a black sky it looked like a hole in the sky I couldn’t see the object or any details I could only see the absence of stars like a hole in the sky it was at least 350 to 400 feet on a each side it was moving slightly because the stars were winking in and out on the edge of the object. A blue white light came from the object and illuminated me my lady friend and my truck the circle of light was roughly twice as large as my 1969 Chevy half ton pickup truck. I was fishing on the beach in Fort Pierce Florida at the time and was standing in my truck bed changing into dry clothing as I had fallen into the surf and needed dry clothing. I looked up at the source of the light it was on for maybe 15 seconds and then shut off when the object started to move slowly south parallel to A1A and the beach. It was moving at about a slow walk for about 600 feet as it moved away the apparent shape changed to a narrow rectangle shape or the classic cigar shape as I was now looking at it from the side I still could not see the object only the absence of star light in the narrow rectangle shape. The blue white light turned on again and illuminated a car parked directly under the object on the side of the road a person got out of the driver side door and looked up at the object again the light was on for another 15 seconds or so and then turned off. I watched it move south and it got smaller and smaller until it disappeared. There were 6 other witnesses of which my lady friend was not one. She saw it just like I did but she ran to her car and disappeared. I’ve never saw her again. I tried to contact her but she wouldn’t return my calls and she quit her job and I don’t know what happened to her that was our first date. Of the other witnesses they all saw the same thing that I saw except one and he saw a completely different thing that didn’t conform with the rest of us he was very agitated and refused to talk about it ever again. He saw the light, but his description was completely different than everybody else’s. I don’t know what I saw but I know that nothing that we had flying at that time or now could hover silently in a 35 mph wind and not be buffeted around violently. I guess it was a classic unidentified flying object. Two odd things I had a 2 hour missing time occurrence and so did the rest of the whiteness’s I have had 3 other missing time occurrences years after this event, one of which also involved my wife.
Sounds like you all have been abducted. Read "Missing Time" by Budd Hopkins for starters.
Have you ever thought of having hypnotherapy? Going back..filling in the time.
amazing story. You tell it in a matter of fact style. Im still hoping to witness something like you ve seen.
I have never seen anything of alien stuff in my life, I'm 56 and until now I only see comments, RUclips videos and some tv shows that talk about it, but personally nothing. I don't know how will I react if I see something like that, maybe I will RUN like Forrest Gump and hide somewhere no one will find me ever, maybe like your lady friend, and maybe I'll find her haha 😅 That is a very scary experience , really, mostly when 2 hours of your life where taken and you don't know what happen. May be you have some kind of implants on you ( in your arm, or head, or neck), and that is why you have been abducted later on, and they erased your memory so you are not scare of what they did to you 😮 OMG! 😱 I wish you're ok 🙏🙏🙏
You really have exceptional eyesight: Seeing something completely black against a black sky. 😂
INTELLIGENT life on Earth is debatable.
Wales and dolphins?
indeed
we have plenty of stupidity going around
but then again the universe is full of electrons protons neutrons and morons
@@walkertongdee Whales
Aliens judge us by Trump and his Maga followers.
@@poloramon8130 🤡🤡
If there really is something out there waiting for us in the darkness, then we'd damn well better hope that it's not like us at all. Knowing the bloody career of human history as I do.
I'm pretty sure the "like us" have already destroyed themselves hundreds, if not thousands, of times over. Like we are literally about to do...
I agree with your thoughts, our species has a very long history of evil deeds, and it hasn't stopped yet. we are not and may never be ready for a real first contact with aliens from another world. yes, the worse part, they might be too much like us.
My reply to this ... honest report!:
So everybody is simply wrong and are making hundreds if not thousands of observational mistakes including trained veterans and professionals from the domestic airline sector and air forces ect all around the world, and none of our world leaders and politicians would lie to us? Thank you for clearing that up for me!
UFO's are everywhere, this is a full blown invasion, we need to hide and run, it's over man, it's over!
the egg-heads in this movie said, it's not possible to travel faster than light, but the experts said the same thing about flying, even at the seed of sound, going to the moon and so forth.
@briandunning 1) Why did you not mention the Navy pilots who saw/followed the UAPs and the corroborative radar reports from the ships including the target traveling 60 miles in one second? 2) Why did you not mention the Phoenix Lights which had thousands of observers and some with videos? 3) Why did you not mention the Stephenville Lights seen by many? etc etc I appreciated the Carter Sighting explained (although still confused as to why we put a barium cloud into the atmosphere). I believe you cherry-picked UAP events that fit your preconceived belief system.
Your comment made me decide not to bother watching this Crap!!! Thank you!! ❤🏃♀️🏃♀️🙋♀️🇬🇧
The Phoenix lights have been explained. Check Wikipedia, or listen to Brian’s own podcast where he covers the Phoenix lights.
He could have covered a lot of other topics/events, sure, but when you have a specific budget and only so much time, you cover what you can.
@@Graeck -- Nope, Phoenix lights have not been explained away. Just all sorts of typical BS like flares etc. All just crap.
Because his whole channel and agenda is all about debunking so yeah, he's going to be cherry-picking alright.
Just like you cherry-picked your list of UFO incidents. Instead of attacking someone who came up with some interesting comments and took the time to create a program about a subject we all care about. Why not give your constructive criticism and still support an attempt to get clarity on this topic?
I like the Stephensville siting and I find Steve Allen very credible. But the craft might have been ours and that's OK too.
The Navy pilots may have been wrong. Their craft is not optimized for UFO hunting. And if the Government is not seeking answers maybe that is because it is secret and the technology belongs to us!
200 years or more ago it wasn't even possible wishful thinking of flying or communicating with a cellphone more powerful today than the computer they used 60 years ago. If you would have taken the smartest scientific people and asked them about that they would have laughed and tell you that it's physically impossible. Do you get it?
Some of us get it - most people will not.
'Scientific people'? What the... LOL. Someone is confused and it isn't Brian Dunning
The news media was not even covering the Wright brothers first flight and laughing about it as they were so convienced it was not possible.
Brian can't get it, his brain won't allow him to..
No they wouldn't have. My late father in law was a television repairman who predicted flat screen tvs 50 years ago, and he was not the sharpest tool in the shed. 60 years ago, Dick Tracy had a two way wrist television. Scientific knowledge and inventiveness is pretty amazing, but they all work within the laws of physics. None of these new amazing inventions violate any of the physical laws, they just access newer technology.
really, you discount the position/experience of a Top-Gun pilot, not to mention the ability of an F16's tracking systems to capture another plane to this guy ...your truly special...
He's a special kind of special isn't he? lol
why would you not believe a video game "expert" over a TOP GUN instructor, in identifying what's on a plane's instrument?? you must be biased and irrational :P
Being a witness to The Phoenix Lights, how do you explain an object the size of many football fields being viewed by over 10,000 people. This object was tracked on radar from northern to southern Arizona, and clearly not something that was man made. When passing over the mountains near my house, it was only hundreds of feet in the air, and it's massive triangular shape clearly visible blocking out the stars in that evenings clear sky. To date, I have never heard any rational explanation.
That must have been some experience for you, this guy is a debunker or maybe a man in black lol, why do the US gov want to hide the truth, maybe afraid of chaos occuring, which is plausible i suppose,
I remember this on the news. I was living in Sedona at the time. Several friends were driving back from here and saw it but honestly didn’t think it was ET but us, our military tryin an experiment for ‘reactions’ of the public. Empaths are real, so I agreed with him, as a fellow empath. Seeing fox10 interview a ten yr old boy and his father and the boy was Crystal clear in his statement of what they witnessed. I believed the boy then and still do. It was our dufus guys ‘let’s test their reaction’ flyin it. For males it’s your gut that speaks truth to you, men heed it, women heed it-intuition, but it’s more than that and gets stronger with each use! ET’S carry a different energy than humans, and at 68 I’ve had some experiences not to be explained, so I know the difference. Our guys will be flyin re-engineered ‘ufo’ type ships when the big reveal occurs. It’ll be a show trust me, half of it bs buncha clown acts. You’ll see. Get your cameras ready. 🙏🏻🤔😂
His reply will be "You where just brainwashed by Hollywood movies (and his peers of course), so your subconscious made you see and think that, a visual trick of your subconscious... what in reality was comets dust or some other BS official narrative.
That dude makes me vomit.
Don't lose your faith in what you know to be a real experience. It's healthy to question things. For example I have no clue who you are or where, but I know you are real because of your comment on this page. Stay curioua. 🌌🤔 🥀
"He was at an event called the "Halloween Balloon Spooktacular" in which a skydiving team called the Arizona Skyhawks jumped out of a plane with bright magnesium flares for a show. "I was at the location where those skydivers were coming in Friday night," Crabbs stated in a Fox10 news report, "That's exactly what happened: there were some skydivers. And they did have pyrotechnics on their ankles. There were four of them, and if you look at the video, you can see actually four different lights."
Much of the area surrounding Horizon High School is open space that would be ideal for skydiving. But why weren't the lights identified earlier?
The answer is that though the event (held at a place called Salt River Fields) is about 15 miles from the high school, it is difficult to judge the distance of unknown objects in the sky -- and that's especially true for the night sky. Under clear conditions, bright lights can be seen for dozens of miles; some lighthouses can be seen more than fifty miles away, for example."
Just because we can't travel many light years to other stars does not mean they haven't discovered how to do it!
They love saying that crap. Like aliens would be so different from us and not shaped like us, while at the same time saying they'd not be able to figure out things we haven't yet like ok so they look nothing like us which ok that's reasonable to assume I guess but they would have an identical level of intelligence and space traveling technology to us? And we know everything so they can't make it here full stop...? You want your cake and you demand to eat it too? You can't have both of these things and expect to have a good case against aliens existing and having an ability to travel here it comes off desperate and condescending
Right. An so all the alien accounts an crafts prier to now, has never existed because there's no proof or no more then just one person has claimed to see these things
Exactly..... Since we can't do it, then no one else can? Sounds kind of naive to me.
@@sgrimm7346 Based on the current understanding of physics, it's impossible. That is not being naive. Jumping to unfounded conclusions is naive in my understanding.
@@daftdog exactly. People who claim 'someone else might be able to do it', simply do not understand what the speed of light actually is.
I was engaged until he started trying to debunk the African school kids encounter. They have been interviewed as adults and still don’t waiver from their experience. Maybe he should talk to these people before trashing them.
There are interviews with a man that grew up who also claim he started the hysteria that day and nothing real happened.
Yeah, I saw that interview not long ago. But he seemed to have an axe to grind. @@marktaylor3802
Yeah f this dude. John mack was a good man
The children were very unreliable witnesses, having been watching UFO hype on TV for days before. Good try but failed
I found the Ariel school childrens UFO encounter to be one of the most believable ones of all.
"But Captain, I canna change the laws a-physics"
Wins the Internet today .
one thing about time and distance that is often overlooked is that we always limit any extraterrestrial life form to a lifespan similar to our own even though we are aware of living things on Earth with lifespans far greater than ours.
if an extraterrestrial species had lifespans lasting 10's of 1000's of years, or longer, they might not mind spending a few hundred years crossing interstellar space
Consider a super intelligent alien species that is 50,000 years+ more advanced than us, they would travel through space/time in ways we couldn't possibly understand.
We don't have an understanding of true nature of reality, we might have a tiny glimpse but our brains are simply not evolved enough to grasp the full scope of reality, so we can't even understand all the possibilities of space/time manipulation.
Bottom line - a sufficiently advanced alien civilization would have ways of traveling that are beyond our understanding.
All the variables makes the brain tingle!!!
Valid point.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
-Arthur C. Clarke@theseventhammer
@@theseventhammer could, not would
I enjoyed this. But I can't shake the nagging suspicion that it may have been just as much "engineered" as it was "objective". Information control can come in all shapes and sizes, even packaged as skeptical/open minded reporting. It was all just too "canned" for me.
yes its a crock of shit. from start to finish lolol
Yeah, just taking the first story that they called the least believable, they imply the journal was written later, when it has been dated. They make it sound like the people investigated the craft for 45 minutes, when it was 5 minutes for them and 45 minutes for the people waiting for them, with the mechanical watches the two people that approached the craft were wearing had lost the missing time. They don't mention plaster casts of the imprints in the soil from the landing. They don't mention that only 18 minutes of the taped audio was released to the public out of 8 hours of tape. They don't mention that the guy that interacted with the craft testified to Congress last summer, or that his medical records for several years after the encounter were classified by the VA and not even accessible by his VA doctors or his Congressmen. They don't mention corroborating radar contacts, etc.
And that's the one they thought was least believable, lol
The narrator/producer/writer is a sponsored debunker. He has a string of books covering a wide range of subjects that he "debunks". To give you an example of what he does, and who he does it on behalf of consider this, he states that Lee Harvey Oswald was a sole lone nut as well as that the MK-Ultra experiments are myth. The very same powers that would wish this info to be put out there is the same power that claims there are no UAP. This film is propaganda to counter the recent events in Congress and the media. The powers that be would keep this under wraps will do so with max effort until the very day the floodgate breaks.
@@jaydouglas5847 no shit . Crazy. This doc was some of the weakest shit iv ever seen. With head Idiot Mick West and his brilliance LOL
@@williamreynolds6475 THis is a hilarious production, i laughed right from the beginning all the way to the end. When they're looking at the Gimbal with head debunker Mick West was the funniest part. Mick thinks its a fighter jet thats 20-30 miles away. While in the original clip by the pentagon the pilots clearly state "LOOK AT THE SA there is a whole FLEET OF THEM" so a whole fleet of unidentified fighter jets INSIDE WAR GAME AIRSPACE were attributed to a UAP account... Brian Dunning really needs to give his head a shake and snap out of it. The cumulative evidence is overwhelming and these fragmented lame debunk attempts are for the mentally challenged. What a joke doc, thats going to live on the internet forever as we move into full disclosure and the whole world laughs at these clowns.
This was brilliant. The comments are hilarious, too. It's like people don't want us to use the scientific method, or demand good evidence.
lol, it’s a movie. Debunking only what could be debunked, most of it is fluff
@@queerfusion Was there something specifically you had a contention with? What cases do you think can't be debunked?
@@scottplumer3668 they were cherry picked cases, there’s millions of cases. Even the government had made admission of UFO. Trying to pretend or fool the public they do the exist is ludicrous…
13:40 "is it possible that some aliens might come to us from a different part of the universe that might have different laws of physics?" Her immediate unblinking answer "NO. It is not possible. The laws of physics are the same everywhere."
One thing I've learned in my 50 years of being a live human being: whenever someone says that something is impossible all they have to do is wait for a while and they will be proven wrong every time, without exception.
Even with our perceived vast amount of knowledge I fear the human race is blinkered and it's going to take a very long time to find other ways to our condition of omniscience without e.t. coming down and saying, " here's how it's done". Then watch the academics make up plausible reasons as to why they thought they were correct in being incorrect.
A dream is just a discovery away.
The impossible is the the possible that we haven't fathomed yet.
While this idea might seem somewhat valid in broad terms, there is absolutely no basis to entertain the idea that the established laws of physics would vary in other regions of the universe outside of the realm of science fiction. In fact, if you're even willing to entertain this notion, it indicates a lack of fundamental understanding of the universal laws of physics.
How long until 2 + 2 = 5 then?
All of the scientist in this film are so sure of themselves. No scientist I’ve ever respected has been so certain.. About anything!
“Brought to you by the people of Phillip Morris” 😜
Yeah, I agree with your statement. Countless times scientists have been incorrect. However, that doesn't necessarily make these videos legit.
So this movie is based on the fact that our understanding of physics dictates aliens can't reach us, and look we're not destroyed by aliens and haven't seen any so aliens don't exist and can't reach us? That is thinking like an ant in an anthill.
Exactly. Thank you!!
This movie is based on the need for rational inquiry into mundane explanations before leaping into "wow must be aliens".
The sames goes for being able to get a good video, for starters if they are advanced enough why would they let us photograph them, clearly they are hiding from us, so not having good video and bringing proof that there are more phones in the world than people does not go well either. It's comparing our understanding with their technology. Doesnt make any sense.
Yes, this.
Those who make mundane statements like @howardmilano is missing the point of the video. I've stated elsewhere in this thread, why not assume Leprechauns? Or witches? Could be Bigfoots. They probably have iPhones and airplanes by now. Why jump to little gray people from outer space?
great comment, best analogy for this movie!! The whole whole thing is made from the perspective of an "ant"
Radar on the Princetown tracked what Mick West said in your show was a weather balloon travelling from 80,000 ft to sea-level in under 1 second, which is at least Mach 26. Please can Mick tell us where to purchase a latex balloon with this capability?
They were once sold at Toys r US, however, I currently have no information regarding existing vendors.
Mick has some really weird personal issue with this subject. It's absurd. He's just a buffoon at this point
_"Radar on the Princetown ... 80,000 ft to sea-level in under 1 second ..."_
Any evidence for that other than eye witness accounts?
Or the other way around: If so, have other possibilities been investigated that could also explain such an observation? Sources? What points to extraterrestrials? You can't always blame some kind of "supernatural" beings for everything you can't explain, even if we've always done so in the past. Only the "beings" have always changed in history.
And why did these tic tac objects move so fast w/o reasons or why did they not move away before the jets arrived? Do they want to be discovered? And if yes why did the flew after. Questions over questions. That all is not plausible if you think rational about it.
And: "What else could it have been?" is not a valid counter-question for a good reason. Most of this kind of discussions is based on wishful thinking and a cult especially in the US.
Well, Mick West is an idiot so there's that.
Mick doesn't have any weird personal issues, it's just that he has taken up the mantle of being a state sponsored debunker , he is the heir to Philip Klass, Donald Menzel and Dr Condon. These government paid debunkers have no credibility with the public.@@bristlefist
There are plenty of cases that are supported by radar data corroborating eyewitness stories, but this program completely ignored them. The Tic Tac UFO descended from 80,000 feet to the surface of the ocean in a second. Further, it took off at extremely fast speed that US F/A-18 pilots said was too fast for any person to survive, and it went to a location where these pilots were supposed to go for a dogfight in a matter of a second (not to mention that the dogfight location was a secret). There is proof, you just have to look.
The laws of physics are the same everywhere, says Dr. I think it's very narrow-minded, because we're sitting here on a planet and we don't know what the neighbor is doing, it's very arrogant to say that the laws are the same everywhere. You can say "probably" ok, but something like "no" is not acceptable. Timestamp: 13:50
Hard to believe it's been almost three and a half years since I hit the FAA's mandatory retirement age from Continental/United. My final position was 777 Captain. In all that time I saw some spectacular sights. Everything from flying between columns of thunderstorms that made you feel like a small bird navigating thru a Redwood forest, to being lit up, instantaneously, as if by the sun, in the middle of the night, by a way to curious meteor. But I never saw anything I couldn't explain.
I was just a person with my wife in wrong place at the wrong time going home from our friends house in the early hours who lived n a rural area when it seen us chased us stopped our vehicle it hovered just ft above the roof our car rotating before eventually ascending from just above the field to the high up through the clouds.Yes we have a alien intelligence here on the Earth and its very sad not many people know about this.Did i report it .oh yes to the Miniistry of Defence in 2005
Enjoy your retirement Captain! Thanks for all those years of taking us earth bound clods into the skies. All the Best to you.. 😜
@@stemtostern7611 Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
@@liamstrauss5477 That had to have be a life altering experience.
@@liamstrauss5477Where did this happen?
The way this program is presented is with earthly human concepts and human way of thinking.
Yeah makes no sense and they have what 2 people saying these laws are laws anywhere in the galaxy
Why do you suppose that is? And who is expected to change this in breadth and scope?
@@kevinparrish6085 My reply to this ... honest report!:
So everybody is simply wrong and are making hundreds if not thousands of observational mistakes including trained veterans and professionals from the domestic airline sector and air forces ect all around the world, and none of our world leaders and politicians would lie to us? Thank you for clearing that up for me!
The 'human' way of thinking will never result in full disclosure and ET contact.
Well yes, after all they are humans... and rational evaluation of evidence is the best tool humans have to understand reality.
We did not invent mathematics, we merely discovered it...
Sir the craft our whole family observed wasn't on TV.
You might as well have told that to a mailbox, because you would've gotten a more intelligent response trust me..
Oh boy. I hope you got some good footage to show others, or you might not be believed.
this may be the worst of it all, the disrespect for the experiencers, even for TOP GUN instructors who unlike all the debunkers, WERE THERE
that was probably Venus
It was probably a barium gas cloud release 😂
"laws of physics, as WE know it", WE have barely scratched the surface IMO.
Not according to what they learned by rote at university...nothig else is possible
Until we come to some new type of physics, we have to go with the physics as we understand them now.
@@LonesomeTroubadour "Physics as we know them now" says warp travel is possible.
@@LonesomeTroubadour:
No.
You DON'T "have to".
@@142horizon Yes you do, otherwise we're just in fairy land.
Do these guys really think that United States Navy aircraft carriers don’t have the radar capability to determine the speed and direction of an object for 100s of miles out on radar? Further - is that not the very information given to pilots to vector them into position to encounter these phenomena(as they testified to before Congress)? Are we also expected to believe that USN fighter pilots - graduates of Top Gun, cannot determine how fast an object is going in relation to their own aircraft…like they train for 100s of hours in dog fighting? That sets the bar for our fighter pilots and the Navy at a laughably low level. Just some food for thought on how little thought and effort was put into this analysis…The Navy has been using radar since WWII, they are not relying on IT guys to draw pretty lines on computers and say ‘watch your parallax and you will be ready to engage!’…Why? because they have RADAR - look up the meaning of the acronym and then tell us some more about ‘parallax’…
LOL! Dog Fighting? They are the one saying Dog Fighting is not a Thing anymore coz they can see each other miles away and can lunch missiles. And Radar don't justify if its a foreign objects not from earth, like the film said there are many factors in radars regarding the speed its not like two cars chasing each others.
@@pillow2kTop Gun is a real school in the Navy - and yes - they teach ONLY DOGFIGHTING. You may as well just rip that bandaid off right now. I would suggest you take my advice and review what the acronym RADAR means…If you think the Navy is sending up 30 million dollar planes without knowing where and how fast they are moving and how fast and in what direction other planes are going (basic air traffic control) well, bless your heart. Apparently these Navy pilots should consult you before trusting in the systems the Pentagon has spent billions on developing…the same systems you are giddy to point out that allow pilots to engage targets beyond visual range - magically stop working when pilots are in visual range...how convenient for your half baked analysis. The problem - That just isn't how radar works, both the jets AND the aircraft carriers can see an objects vector which is how the carrier was able to vector the jets from their scheduled training mission to the general position of the phenomena, allowing the jets to lock their camera on to the object...Hopefully the Chinese and Russian Navies have as low opinion of our sailors and hardware as you do if we ever have to go to war against them. On that point, I think we can agree...
Radar data is subject to the same interference and error, whether you're on a fishing boat or an aircraft carrier. And then it has to be observed by people, who aren't perfect.
@@WaxPaper That is a powerful rebuttal, "interference and error" - JUST SHOOT ME (the Navy and fighter jets are not running your uncle's fishing boat radar)...why don't you do YOUR service, let the entire Pacific fleet know about the loopholes in our defenses that this movie taught you about...RADAR is what surface warfare stakes thousands of sailors lives on (and by proxy millions of citizens lives). That is a FACT regardless of how you FEEL about the technology, it's limits or applications. It works seemlessly for every major international airport on the planet - but not here and with you . Stop making excuses for shitty agenda driven "science".
@@chriseb7 Light behaves the same way regardless of what it's bouncing off of, or what it's passing through. Military hardware might be prone to less errors, but it's still prone to errors.
any competent scientist would say that yes "as far as we know, the laws of physics are the same in our universe" BUT our UNDERSTANDING of such laws of physics is rudimentary, we don't even know what gravity is let alone control it, and our understanding of the universal laws of physics is changing ALL the time, so these "physics laws" they are talking about, are not laws AT ALL, they are just our current understanding, which prove our own "laws of physics" WRONG all the time.
Great science and fact based video. My best friend and his buddy saw a huge 100 ft saucer shaped UFO come out of the lake and fly about 10 feet above them in the Laurentians mountains north of Montreal about 1970, It came out of the lake in front of them and flew right over their heads 10 feet up and then kept going up until it disappeared. The next day the Canadian Air Force came into town and asked the citizens in the area if they saw anything the day before. My friend and his buddy never said anything to any officials about their seeing he UFO take off and go 10 feet above them and they kept going up and disappeared. My friend has told me about this about 5 times over the past 10 years. I believe my best friends up close experience is true because he is not the know to BS about stuff. I haven't see any UFO's however I believe in them myself and because of my friends detailed experience. Also I believe that the government are not revealing everything they know about UFOs to us, because there are clearly bans on them revealing everything to the public. Even in the last year or 2 when the Congress had talks with the Defense Dept superiors that they are stingy on what they tell us and it's takes years for the US government to reveal anything to the public even when they say that they are changing their ways and now being honest with us. The government officials are painfully hesitant to reveal almost anything to us. They are just trying to pacify us and only tell us tiny portions of the truth.
wow
Shows like this really piss me off. "There is nothing that can break the laws of physics!" Yup just like the world is the center of the universe, the world is flat or the sound barrier can not be broken. Science is all about learning what we thought was truth only to learn it is not. To have the closed mind and say we will not able to go faster then the speed of light or not being able to find some way to travel light years, that person is an idiot.
So "that person is an idiot," huh? Exactly what have you done to prove them idiotic? Please share your knowledge with the world.
@@checkmateking235 History itself has proven it. The point he's making is, 'scientists' say 'such and such is impossible', which only means it hasn't been done yet.
'Scientists' didn't think creatures could could live in subzero temps, crushing water depths, but yet there they are, 20k feet down and flourishing.
They seem to think that 'because we don't know how to do it here, then it can't be done ANYWHERE'. Most scientists are closed minded. Everything's impossible until it isn't.
Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt that they're not idiots, if they've convinced themselves (or been convinced by someone else) that something is not possible, it seems we are plausibly able to reasonably say that THEY will likely not be the ones to discover that it IS possible if it actually is.
The only issues that can “break“ any law of physics is out “lack of knowledge“ about what those “laws“ are! THINK! 🤔😮
Correction: our lack.....
On the Rendelsham Forest case how does the Offord Ness Lighthouse beacon light get viewed 6 miles inland when the lighthouse has an opaque backing screen preventing inland ingress of the light ?
And not seen each night if it was it at that location? I agree with you and some other documentary showed that it couldn't be the lighthouse.
@@kenblack4802 Great point. Lighthouse wasn’t put up just the day before. Assistant base commander would have previously been aware of the lighthouse.
Lighthouse do not have opaque backing. they emit light in 360 degrees to ensure the light can be seen from any angle the ship may be approaching. You can google this.
@@hootonhoot It seems to me that the light from the lighthouse may not usually be visible through the forest but was in this instance possibly due to the time of year when there are no leaves on the trees it was visible. The five second flash coincided with the flash interval of the lighthouse light. Other folks may have seen the flashes in the past but recognized they were from the lighthouse and obviously would not have reported it.
ships don't have wheels and do not approach overland. I don't know the exact situation with this lighthouse but for me it makes perfect sense to block the light on the landside if the lighthouse is not on an island. It would surely drive me crazy if my bedroom was lit up like a Christmas tree every 20 seconds@@tma-1704
I'm sorry, but this movie equating possibly more advanced civilizations (with possibly more advanced technologies and greater understandings of the laws of the universe) as belonging in the same category as things like leprechauns and Harry Potter rendered the correlations it used to dismiss even the possibility of visitation simply laughable, and as a result, its intention suspect.
John Oliver just did an episode on UFOs and COMPLETELY MISSED the answer to Jimmy Carter's sighting. Thank you for putting more effort into the subject than he did.
Haha, "alien can't break the laws of physics that we humans made up." That is so damn stupid to say. There are planets out there where they without a doubt have different material sciences that we have. They could have a different periodic table, or they have more stable versions of elements in plenty that we do not.
You really don’t understand science do you?
@@axeman1973 Do you really think human science is "as good as it gets"? 😤 We have a long way to go...!
Physics can be calculated by using mathematical formulas. All they are saying is that math is the same everywhere, so the physics as we understand them would also be the same everywhere in the universe. You are implying that maybe aliens CAN break these laws of physics, which we formulate using math, then you are implying that somewhere in the universe 2+2 isn't 4, it has to be something else where our mathematical calculations would be incorrect. If aliens can figure out a way to get 5x5 to be anything other than 25, and their answer is correct, then those aliens can have different outcomes to calculations when applying it to physics. Does make sense what they are saying - even in a different galaxy I'm sure 10+10 is going to be 20.
If shows like this existed 500 years ago they would be telling us that human flight was impossible, that there will never be a cure for bacterial infection, travelling faster than the speed of sound is impossible and that the solar system and sun revolves around the earth. Never underestimate the 'know it all' arrogance of humans, especially those in the scientific community.
it doesn't work that way, you don't discover how to break the laws of physics, just because 500 years ago we knew so little does not mean it is the same now, way to make a terrible analogy that betrays the truth.
@@ToonamiAftermath I think you misunderstand what the poster is trying to convey. I believe what he means is that we find ways to defeat long held paradigms through the development of technology. In fact some of this is on display in reports and video evidence of unknown craft where the craft makes "impossible" turns and stops and moves from low to high speeds in a fraction of a second. It implies that there are technologies that we have not discovered yet that would permit these movements that anyone would offhand say would kill a human being simply from the G-forces involved.
And he is correct.
@@ToonamiAftermath perfect. breaking the sound barrier, going to the moon were engineering problems. going to other solar systems is a physics problem.
They didn’t know about e=mc squared
After 60 years of watching things disproven I agree with you. Even E=MC2 has it's problems in quantum mechanics or as Einstein put it "Spooky"... "When you think you know everything, you're setting up for failure at anything new!!" R.S...
At 38:58 the host is lying, because he has not seen any 'official data' on the Malmstrom AFB incident. All the host has access to are 'public' non-official speculations about the incident, not actual evidence. So the host has not proven the incident did or did not happen.
I'm being investigated by Harvard for my big stupid face
so we are assuming that what we have to limit ourselves to with regards to space travel, speed of light etc.. we limit alien species to as well. The arrogance of the human species is astounding. Our understanding of physics and maths is ours and ours alone. We know little to if anything of the universe.
Correct!
Thats right, just hunderts years ago we been thinking our galaxy was the entire Universe.70 years ago we were thinking ultrasonic travel is not possible
You are spot on. Actually Hermann Bondi's inertial/gravitational dipole and my paper on electro-gravity offer a way to the solution.
Spot on! It's so dumb
Speed of electricity (or light) + electromagnetic tunnel + perpetual magnetic attraction force = FTL; Ion propulsion. Think wormhole but acceleration instead of teleportation. Add perpetual repel behind the space craft in tandem with the attraction force for silly, improbable speeds... Anti-gravity = adjustable electromagnetic field from a magnetic core, because you don't want to get caught by anything while travelling such silly speeds. Magnetic fields being dipolar doesn't matter when you have mastered electromagnetism, you can draw poles from the center of magnetic core to be hexagonal (dividing energy), or direct one single pole with all the energy. Though energy won't matter at that point since perpetual and limitless energy production has been fact since watermills (if that line of technology was continued into magneto hydro dynamics). Also, wind turbines + magnets in correct angles = perpetual energy because a magnetic field does not decay and magnetic friction = electricity = charged field = more energy rather than loss of energy.
A piss poor effort at debunking the Ariel school incident. And a very disgusting character assassination of Dr John Mack. "His whole thing was persuading people" what a bunch of total BS.
So, I will be waiting for you to produce a rebuttal on his more complete and behind-the-scenes expose. I find it disgusting to use children to make your point about fake UFO stories.
Wack-job UFO freaks are a disgrace to true Ufologists. And I am proud to side with them and not you.
Right
A farce!!!! amazing how were supposed to listen to some old game maker over commander from the navy!!!!! haha!!!!!! WAKE UP! Disclosure is here!
When and if it becomes no shadow of a doubt that it's all real, wish I could see the look on his face😂
Don't forget the idiocy by Mick West and his hilarious gimbal debunk he thought it was a fighter jet 20-30 miles away but in the original clip the pilot clearly states "look at the SA there is a whole fleet of them" a whole fleet of unidentified fighter jets...what a joke. He also thought the tictac was a JET LINER!!!! INISIDE A WARGAME AIRSPACE!!! with e2 hawk eye in the air that can identify drift wood on sufrace of the ocean from 250 miles away. With 2 warships on the ocean and fighters in the air. ( the tictoc thing is not in this doc but its in his big debunk in another clip)
Didn't the US navy have radar data on the alleged UAP's which backed up the pilots accounts ?
Are any aliens interested in us ? They probably pity us because we are on a path of making our planet uninhabitable with nuclear weapons, over population, air, water, and land pollution, very destructive wars, other forms of planetary injustices that are slowly and not so slowly killing off life here on earth.😅
I saw it with my own eyes and less than 200 feet above my head, a big "Vanta" black isoseles triangle with six tiny lights, three at each corner and three halfway between each corner. The lights matched the apparent size and brightness of the background stars. This "craft"...and it certainly was a craft NOT an airplane, a helicopter, a balloon, a kite, a flock of geese, nor a cloud of gas. It was as large and expansive as a building. Two tips of its wings spanned the banks of the river I was near. It was just above the tree tops and silently hovering...then moving almost imperceptibly slow following the river in a NW direction. Its mass blocked the known nighttime star constellations as it passed over. If you were not looking directly at it, you would have missed it. I pointed it out to a friend who was walking with me. He had trouble locating it even as I was pointing directly at the center of this massive craft. He was trying to find something much smaller or farther up. I was losing it...screaming, "It's huge, it's right above us...right there!" following it the whole time with my finger. It then began to pick up speed but, still gliding soundlessly towards the horizon. When it hit the horizon there was a bright flash...and it was gone. My friend only saw the flash that lit up the horizon just as my finger pointed towards that very spot. This made us both jump. My friend asked me, "What was that?" I said, "I don't know." This happened in late Autumn, early Winter 1980. As far as I know, our military didn't have anything like that.
It is really too bad that you cannot debate Brian D. in front of a live audience. I suspect he would politely decline. He seems to have his mind made up. Very sad.
..... I saw the same thing after smoking some black afgan .
Mmmm, no, you didn't
Please stop doing drugs. God bless you.
The only way these “Galaxy is flat ‘ by analogy experts will realize there’s more out there than they can see, is when an alien life form group comes and collects them, and whisks them off to another Galaxy for a real edu experience 😂.. Hopefully they’ll be made to write a hundred times, in multiple dimensions (for all of the equally offended inter dimensional groups).. with a huge quantum compatible, multidimensional piece of chalk, on their proverbial blackboards..”I was wrong, you exist, and you’ve been to our earth many times” and have to wear a galactic dunce hat until returned to earth.. The ship will have to be staffed with Bigfoot, as they probably don’t believe in those either..with a team of grays working as ship maintenance..just for good measure. 😂😅😊 It’ll be a quantum step for academia to catch up with the reality of things, but we can remain hopeful! ❤😊
This feels like a desperate project blue book part 2 in documentary form
For real! Fact!
yes its for the mentally challenged. Stupid doc from start to finish
need you on a clip i made dedicated to this subject! see ya under there! :) Much love!
Nothing desperate about it, just trying to shed rational light on extraordinary claims.
Exactly ... This is documentary is the UFO version of Randy,Brian is \Randy's brother lol
I only watched the Rendlesham segment then quickly concluded this Brian Dunning character is not a sceptic but a debunker. Highlighting the five second sequence of the lighthouse corresponding with the Halt recording but completely ignoring the fact they were seeing a "strange small RED light", and that the Orford Ness Lighthouse only displayed a white light is misleading in the extreme. I could go on, but simply can't be bothered. If Dunning can make such a sloppy attempt with Rendlesham then I haven't the time or inclination to watch the rest of his nonsense.
We constantly concoct theories in all the fields of study, only to find we were wrong or didn’t have the whole picture to come up with a viable theory. Even Einstein was wrong. Deal with it! Additionally, the JWT has seen back far enough to see there most likely wasn’t a big bang, in the sense we currently think of it.
Usually the prior theories were not wrong, but just needed extensions. Einstein was an extension of Newton. Not surprising that Einstein might need extending as well...
come on we know THE LAWS OF PHYSICS! XD
And we will also find that a lot of this video was wrong…
The amount of highly credible military insiders that talk about being directly involved with working on and with ETs is astounding.
@@lucalotto8885I think these people are waiting for confirmation that their pensions and other assets will be protected before they come out publicly. Is this what you were asking?
Who? Who are these "highly credible military insiders" you're talking about? Should be easy for you to name at least 10 of them, since their numbers are so "astounding." Where is all the proof they have given us other than anecdotal hearsay? I'll wait.
Steven Greer is a kook and a snake oil salesman... Be cautious of buying in to the garbage he says. @@lucalotto8885
I remember in 2001 thinking Rudi Giuliani was one of the most capable, reliable and honest people in America... 😂
It's because we waited too long to stop putting lead in gasoline.
As Mr. Dunnung stated early on in this video " don't believe everything you see on tv".
Don't believe it then ! Your problem.
@@mikewilson9601he could have been agreeing… youve projected a but there
He should be saying that to himself in a mirror lol Is it Dunning or Dung- ing? lol
God, would you stop making these idiot humans, they're just in the way!
Every summer usually during the day when I go outside, I have shadow people that follow me, also now I have noticed when I am driving the shadow people have a shadow car they use to follow me. The police and government refuse to help me. Everyone I warm about this finds out they are being followed in a similar manner.
Your whole life is one big shadow….what u going on about 😂
The concept that you could see the lighthouse, at ground level, through the trees - but it wasn't visible from the elevated control tower on the nearby air base seems unlikely. Also on the tape the guy said the light was red. Lighthouses don't have red lights.
My thoughts exactly, some of the debunking was piss poor
I watched this with an open mind as I like to always like to consider both sides of a story. We are all more than familiar with the incidents that you covered and obviously know about the debunks. Something new would have been interesting. However, the most disappointing thing was your lineup of experts, especially the astronomers. "Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light" Astronomers should be aware that galaxies have been proven to be moving faster away from each other than the speed of light. What we know about physics is being updated, and amended constantly. What is true today in physics might not be in the future. To state that we understand the laws of physics, based on 100 + year old theories is naive. We should all keep an open mind!
Thank you!!
Yup! The expansion of space itself is not limited by the speed of light... he left that little nugget out.
In reference to the gimbal videos, if the rotation of the moving pivots of the camera are what caused the object to rotate, would rather just the single object in the frame rotating, the entire view would rotate in the same manner as the object.
If you attribute the objects rotation to camera rotation, why only one object rotates?
Because thats the mainstream explanation, how many times has the mainstream been wrong? 😂
Because he doesn't know wtf he's talking about maybe?
Because he's a video game programmer, and a total tosser!
Mick West explains it really well. That is, if you want your beliefs challenged.
The camera itself is fixed inside the pod and does not rotate. The lens/prism/mirror mechanism in front of it is what is gimbaled. There is an animation from the manufacturer showing this at 58:28 in the film. I'm sure you can imagine that a video feed which is always spinning around would not be very useful.
Simply seeing something is one thing. Detecting it in the IR Spectrum, radar, lidar, sonar and the other things that the military uses is quite something else.
i detect clearly that you are a bonehead
These comments, man. I just can't... It's so sad seeing people make the usual logical fallacies when their beliefs are confronted.
Oh year, and that naturally can be said about the both sides.
Interesting🙂I love science and reality. I just want to say that in this debunking there is some holes to be filled out. And let me tell a story from 1985 in Denmark. I was a intelligens patrol soldier in the Danish army at that time and was nearly living in the forest constantly. It was the cold war so the Red Army was our main objective at that time. I remember one night the alarm goes off and we all run to our main duties getting ready for what was comming. In the background we could hear the F 104 starfighter warming up and in a few minuttes they was airborne with full power beyound mack 2 on the way to a Danish Island Bornholm close to the Russian Border. We found out later that Nato has been watching on rader 2 misiles(at the time that was what the fought) comming in at 18000 km/h toward Danish teritorie. The pilots could see the objects on rader and 4 different raders on the ground as well observe the objects. Then the f 104 arrive the spot and the pilots looked out and confirmed the objects visual. And all this is on record🙂The pilots then say to ground control the bookey is right ahead weapons locket on, and then the pilots looked op and no objects to see. The pilots report back bookey was gone, then the ground rader could see that objects have accellerated up trogh Sweeden with 22000 km/h. And all this is comfirmed from 4 radar stations and pilots as well. So debunk that
🙂
Think you have your speeds x10 😂
My dad and I saw a U.F.O. years ago land at a vacant , out of service gas station in a ghost town (we were passing through on our way to our remote cottage) There was an alien standing at the gas pump,he was trying to comunicate with it...He was saying..."take me to you LITRE" HAHAHA 🤣
His lead scientist’s answer was “NO. Not possible!” 😂
I think this documentary may have an agenda… And it may be brought to you by the people of Philip Morris 😜
The agenda is that "alien aircraft" is an extraordinary explanation and the reasons for that explanation being extraordinary are discussed in the video. But nowhere does the author say that it is "impossible".
We humans based everything around our understanding, so basically, we think if it can't be done, then it's never been done before. 😕🙄
Thank you! 😄;)
That's not true at all. Plenty of imaginative people around doing the `impossible`. Plus - think about the people that `believe` we never landed on the moon.
And how many times have we proven ourselves wrong? Everyday we have a new breakthrough…
In the missile silos, then no one noticed that the electricity is out?
And there was no way to find the guards who were on the ground at the time of the incident to tell if they saw anything?
ya i agree, I think this video did a great service to the community by partially debunking the claims made by Salas about Malmstrom
but i too felt that there are still some loose dangling ends to follow up on
didn't Salas claim that security guards on the surface were screaming on the phone the base was under attack? it makes me wonder if Salas was lying.
and/or if there is some way to find the guards and get them to talk about their side of things.
Big Bang, evolution, billions of years, and uniformitarianism all spouted with such certainty. What hubris .
“To set the bar high we tested if a gerbil could chew and burst through a fleece, a woollen jumper, a Lycra top, and a polyester shirt and frankly any alien badly wouldn’t even get past the initial vest.”
Bob Lazar's explained experiences working on a UAP. The workings of the craft. What element 115 is and how it's used.
There being many too many unexplainable occurrences since the 40's and early 50s.
I'm 53 year's old now. And there are two things that I've seen with my own eyes that have no explanation. The long ass lines at Walmart on any given Tuesday and the fact that only 3 people work at my local DMV. Just baffling!!
Legal definition of "Motor Vehicle"........"The term Motor Vehicle means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property or property or cargo."
ALL drivers licenses are commercial drivers licenses.
And yet here it is posted on RUclips.
Sir, thank you so much! Seriously! This was very informative and you hit my vein right where i needed it. These UAP sightings have been the most compelling to me for a long time and now i know the rational explanation thanks to you and your team! I do still think NHI engineered/piloted UAP could be real after last year's boom of info, but theres still alot of work ahead to prove it! Thanks again! I always make it a point to challenge my beliefs and let science and philosophy lead the way so as not to become dogmatic!
I am a pilot I saw a black triangle. 50 feet over my head, moving at 10 miles an hour. I was not alone, but other witnesses solve the exact same thing explain that.
How big was it?
We don't have to explain it. It's your claim. You do. And so far your evidence is 'I said so'.
I saw a thing. I don’t know what it was. Therefore, aliens. 🙄
...and then you woke up.
wow
We can't be the only life in the universe.
Yep, and Dunning agrees with that.
We're not.
Cats and dogs are to be included.
Hasn't been here
A very good documentary that finally brings some sense into the matter. The objects are far too small to travel intergalactic distances;
spaceships with a diameter of a few hundred meters would certainly be better.
I think the whole story, Senate hearing and Mr. Grusch's statements are a major distraction from the wars threatening the world.
Step back 200 years, flight was impossible, space travel laughable.
No one said that you CAN'T travel faster than light. What they said is as you approach the speed of light, time stops and gravity becomes infinite. That doesn't rule out wormholes. In fact, a wormhole used to be called an Einstein Rosen Bridge. Any travel is considered time travel. Scientists have placed atomic clocks on airliners and found they the slowed down a couple of microseconds the faster and longer they travel. This was on NOVA a decade ago. Albiciurrie LITERALLY DID THE MATH ON WARP TRAVEL,..
Yes he did and if you have a look and listen to Dr. Steven Greer who has over 30 years invested deeply into this whole subject he presents a very compelling argument regarding the whole ufo / uap topic. Why is it btw the change from ufo to uap ? Is it possible that the powers that be want this all to appear to be a brand new subject and not that it's really over 70 years old.
That way we can start hiding it in plain site anew ;-)
These are the same scientists who say a man can become a woman
@@PAPA_BAV No they don't. Nobody has ever said that.
@kidkunjer you haven't talked to a liberal scientist, have you?
Gravity is faster than light.
Just because you don't like the subject matter does NOT equate to "crammed down your throat". Nice, unbiased, neutral introduction there. And re-writing history to boot! How very efficient of you.
Yes but uneducated people will be idiots like always. This is a solid documentary.
Agreed this whole thing feels like it was funded by Neil Degras Tyson and comes off desperate and pathetically unscientific with hints of condescension like project blue book in movie form
@@SUPERFunStick
I'll second that.
The UFO Movie YOU Don't Want You to See. This movie and the people in it confidently proclaiming absolute knowledge of the way the universe works are gonna look real bad (or worse than they do now) in the next few decades. The US government has as much as admitted that they have retrieved craft from other civilizations. Also, what's with the crap about "they would have landed on the White House lawn or blown us up"? Since when does the president of the USA speak for the planet? Is it possible that to advance to a level of technology that works in harmony with and manipulates the universe, civilizations generally have to get over the love of blowing things up and killing people? Why would any civilization come all the way here just to blow us up, when any resource that can be found on Earth (if they can't just synthesize it) can be found in plentiful quantities on asteroids and planets that aren't currently occupied by intelligent civilizations, probably a hell of a lot closer to home? The arrogance with which they proclaim "there's just no way anyone could ever figure out how to get here" is absurd in the face of the quantum world that we are only barely beginning to understand, proof of concepts such as the Al Cubiere Warp Drive, along with the confirmation of the existence of wormholes in time and space, and the universe behaving in ways that are stranger than anyone ever imagined. These are the same morons that would have burned you at the stake and called you a witch for looking through a telescope 500 years ago. They gonna look real dumb real soon. I feel real dumb for sticking with this movie for 20 minutes. I'm only writing this so you don't have to waste as much time as I did.
Being ex-military and having served 5 years in an Air Photo Unit (as both Imagery Analyst, as well as System Operator), I can confirm pilots have little idea how some of the imaging pods work, especially the fighter jet guys since their imaging legs and sorties are relatively short, and they have to actually focus on flying vs imaging. Leave the videos and photos to the proper Imagery Analysts. Also, US Congress has proven to be filled with the dumbest and most incompetent people now.
That being said, I am hoping hope that there will be another radio signal from the civilisation that sent us the Wow! radio signal. Hopefully, within this lifetime! (or we confirm that the signal is a stochastic repeater...)
Well said, great account of your expertise in imagery. Give more voice to experts in their field.
So much conspiracy theories surrounding military stuff. I worked in U.K. defence in a secure facility where no one else on the base was privy to what we did. And yes there were people who said “they have ufo stuff in there”. lol! The truth was far more mundane, to me anyway.
Brian debunked the Wow signal already, Skeptoid 342
There a great video of a pilot "explaining" how their systems work, while actually demonstrating to every half-competent amateur photographer that he is simply clueless about how basic cameras work ...
This was an interesting documentary but it is full of inaccuracies. The bottom line is the craft, the bodies have been recovered and are in contractors hands. Don't believe it? Ask yourself why President Biden signed into law whistleblower protestation for those that come forward to testify about reverse engineering of materials and craft of non human origin. Watch the testimony of the former head of the UAP task force under oath before congress. His claims were supported by the testimony before the Inspector General of over 20 additional whistleblowers with "first hand experience". Read the Schumer/Rounds proposed amendment to the 2023 NDAA which included a 7 year plan to disclose the truth of the UFO/UAP phenomenon to the public as well as provisions for the government to take back possession of materials and craft in the hands of contractors.. The time for denial is over. We must deal with the truth and move forward.
Would the Stealth Bomber be considered extrodinary if it was seen before the general public was told about it, when it was still considered classified?
What would be extraordinary is if it was flyn around when Christopher Columbus was sailing.
I was thinking more so of the guy that the government drove crazy because he saw experiemental aircraft, and intercepted government frequiencies so the government drove the man crazy with false messages and false information.
Also the Columbus situation could've been many different things that may not have had explaination back then. With that said Columbus wasn't the greates navigator or person. His log mentioned how he lied to his crew about the length of the voyage and kept telling them they were almost there. He didn't do proper navigational methods thus lied about how long the voyage would take.
Also all of the Columbus talk even mine above isn't real evidence as described in the video. Saying it is aliens is just speculation. There are theories, it could've been a star, a meteor shower reflective luminous marine life, fires in the distance, or St. Elmo's Fire (plasma discharge observed by sailors). If we are going to throw aliens into it though we can say it was an angel, a wil-o-wisp, a dragon, time traveling graden gnomes. My point is with the Columbus situation is we just don't know what it was and can't know because his journal isn't great evidence.
Back around 1990 or so, I was on vacation with my family near a lake in e. Washington state, The lake was surrounded by very high foothills, creating a canyon-like effect. One day, a weird craft came barreling down the length of the lake, maybe 500 feet or so above the water...I knew that it was some sort of military plane, but was quite radical looking!...Turned out to be a Stealth Bomber on maneuvers...it was a rare sight back then...we were quite freaked out!
@@curbozerboomer1773 I remember hearing a lot about triangular UFOs in the late 80's early 90's... turns out the stealth bomber is quite triangular. Once that was released to the public and eventually retired in the 2000s people didn't see triangle UFOs anymore..
Government reports are going to be sensored or muffled for national security purposes.
True.
They are covering something up. Investigative journalists need to get on this. Unsure what it is. This site is also seeming to be a coverup of the issues.
@@h.chappelle2720 what is being covered up here? Looks to me just the opposite, a lot of light is being shed.
@@h.chappelle2720Cover up nothing. You people are crazy.
Of course someone else could have approached the laws of physics differently and discovered something we don't know...But guys you have to remember scientists are NOT ALLOWED to think this. It's part of what makes scientists so great because they can act on absolute principles to discover new things. In all honesty, Astrophysicist Eric Weinstein would have destroyed every person asked about physics 😅 So I'll stick with him but GREAT video
Funny. I have followed the UFO phenomenon for years. I was an optical physicist at the Naval Air Warfare center and currently teach image processing at a university. Yet, I have never heard of your "expert" Mick West. Also, the objects were tracked by RADAR as well. Hard to imagine that our best pilots could make such a novice mistake.
Its true they never mention about the radar tracking and explaine it.
This doc seems like they are cheery picking their information.
They said Einstein’s theory of relativity prevents them from getting here because of the light speed limit. But within the same theory Einstein said wormholes are a possibility.
So sure you cant move through space faster than light but you can still (in theory) get to the location faster than light takes to get there by ‘sidestepping’ through a wormhole
This show has clearly only spoken to people observing instruments as a job instead of people delving into the theoretical physics side of things.
If we only listened to the people repeating the norm we wouldn’t have made discoveries
All the big discoveries were made by people who were thought to be insane by their peers
I mean am i wrong
Very strange video
@@laughingpanda95 - imo this video is excellent because it debunks portions of the claims
debunking allows us to focus resources on the cases which aren't yet explained
for example, this video may have revealed that the man behind the Rendlesham lore was exaggerating in later years. that seems very important to know :)
and the Salas claims about Malmstrom AFB sound suspicious. :)
possibly some efforts should be expended to find out if another guard really was screaming on the phone that the base was under attack? cuz something dont add up there
@@moegreen3870 i agree. But itd more healtjy to have both our opinions in tbe same place
Rather than just one side dominating.
Ive seen so many documentaries that just go off the rails halfway instead of trying to get a real answer.
And i dont agree with debunking in the lose sense. It suggests they arnt a skwptic but will only look for the answer that fits the already thought of peramiters.
For example quantum tunneling is a way for instant communication over any distance. This doc completly avoided that proven consept in favour of the norm ( messages cant travel faster than light, when they can)
It was just a bad watch because of the cherry picking.
But the pro aliens people also cherry pick atm
Just saying its healthy for both sides to exist as they oush each other towards the truth through the disagreement
A limitation of this documentary is its reliance on the limitations of Newtonian physics when he states that it's physically impossible to traverse the vast distances of space. What it doesn't take into account at all is the possibilities opened up by quantum mechanics. Why couldn't someone warp space/time? We have people on this planet who think it can be done.
Absolutely!
Yeah...once it was impossible to go faster than the speed of sound too....
No, everyone in the universe must abide by the LAWS of the Universe. Fail
Theory is not proof.
@@86GT11UFO is your religion. Try education. It may help you
What I get from this guy is that we are the most intelligent thing in the universe, what we’ve learned in the last couple of hundred years is it and what we say goes, no question…… pfft!
I've been listening to and financially supporting Brian Dunning's podcast for so long, and it's a trip to see the face behind the voice.
And then you woke up and ate a bowl of life cereal
@@theeverythingelectronicsst3897 lol
Hahaha, Brian Dunning graduate of Jim Oberg's School of debunkers.
I'm going to side with the military police, and, there was about 25 or 30 of them that conducted the search operation at Rendlesham. These individuals were assigned to guard a nuclear stockpile, but were so stupid, they couldn't distinguish a lighthouse blinking light from a floating object that shot up into the sky, Yeah Ok.
And, The Ariel School Incident, I'm going with Dr. John Mack's conclusion and the kids who witnessed and drew similar pictures, while separated from each other. And today their story remains the same. Couldn't continue, but, I'm sure you got it all explained.
he is unbiased LOL
I've seen them, I've been abducted many times since 1964...they do exist. As to where they're from I have no idea. Believe or not...I don't care. They can deny and debunk all they want but it doesn't change the fact that they've been visiting here for a VERY long time.
I think the most interesting thing about this film is considering whether to have another beer or a glass of wine before going to sleep.
My mother worked in a lab in the 40's where they were testing different aircraft (in TX, but they did it in other locations too). All was classified, so the local population was not told anything. Many different shapes etc. She worked there 4 years, but the lab functioned more than 15 that she knew of.This is not to say there aren't vehicles not from earth, but be skeptical before you jump to conclusions. I'd believe the long time pilot who never saw anything. btw the Phoenix lights (which i also saw), were explained satisfactorily.
The hardcore of people pushing for a non-human intelligence explanation to some UAP, aren’t suggesting an extraterrestrial origin to the phenomenon.
They’re considering the possibility of it being local and proposing we may have a limited understanding of the nature of reality.
It’s true we have a set of tried and tested rules according to which we evaluate nature, and we call it scientific knowledge. But science is not dogma, and we’ve reached our current level of understanding being curious about the oddities of nature and questioning the status quo.
Exactly
Then you must conclude that we are not in a position to suggest anything other than the rational explanations within our understanding. If the explanation is outside of our current understanding then it is outside, and any speculation is no different to fantasy.
@@arcanics1971 Persistent testimonies from reliable witnesses of unusual events, apparently incompatible with our current knowledge, should elicit our curiosity. Scientific progress originates from the study of outlier data.
If we just abide by the orthodoxy, we’re into religion, not science.
Out of everything in the comments this one & the 3 responses are those which make me feel most comfortable.
Occam's razor applies. The most likely explanation is NOT aliens OR something else unlikely, whereas we KNOW humans are error prone in making observations.
I'd like to see you take on a few tougher challenges. Like say all the countless hours of footage over the years from Mexico. Btw the pilots in the navy/airforce videos you're trying so hard to debunk had a hell of a lot more information than just a few simple videos. They had these things on radar and actually clocked their speeds and elevations through the entire thing. Now if you want to get into a discussion about the potential psy op they could be pushing we might be able to talk. But if you're just gonna look at those videos without the rest of the information they provide I can't take this seriously. It feels low budget and honestly a lot more disengenous than the recent testimonies.
Brian Dunning works on Skeptoid. Try on there if you want answers to many of your questions.
Regarding the second Navy video, the "fast" object: if what we are viewing is indeed the effect of parallax, for instance, if it were a stationary balloon, as suggested, wouldn't the object appear to be moving in the opposite direction? It appears to be tracking in the same direction as the jet, so I don't see how it could be explained by parallax. 🤷♀️
On the Speed of Light. It travels at different rates depending on the medium it's traveling through. Therefore we know the lightspeed max only through those mediums. What if there's a medium that exists we haven't discovered yet in which the current max of lightspeed is multiple times higher than what we currently know? There's your Thought Experiment for the month... ;)
point being that matter slows down the speed of light, therefore the maximum velocity of light is through a vacuum, which is insufficient for interstellar travel. However, I take your point that, yes, there will be other discoveries. I notice that no one has mentioned a wormhole yet. Which is a real phenomenon which allows shortcuts through space-time.
@@jneedeeThanks for understanding the spirit of my question. Just like to make sure people think for themselves not just accept whatever they're told.
Trying to explain a type of Advanced Technology with ‘Conventional Science’ is absurd. This documentary had an agenda from the very start and it was to take a certain point of view and disprove whatever was reported. Since the filmmakers were so eager to say that even pilots can make mistakes, so can scientists. What about the tens of thousands that saw The Phoenix Lights and many earlier in the twilight of that evening saw a very large triangular object. What about Roswell and the many people who saw the Craft and the debris, and the testimony of Jesse Marcel decades after the fact? And the lives threatened if they said anything of what they’d seen. They can’t possibly all be lying. The extraordinary testimony of Betty & Barney Hill, Travis Walton and the eyewitnesses in the Rendlesham Forest Incident in England clearly were not seeing a lighthouse in the distance. And those Navy Pilots off the Coast of Southern California clearly saw large tick-tack objects moving at a rate that defied conventional ‘Physics.’ This film indeed had an agenda to prove and it clearly was so one sided that even Carl Sagan would have had issues with it.
Also, the testimony of Officer Lonnie Zamora outside Albuquerque, New Mexico in 1964 has NEVER been disproven. He was an Officer of the Law who was so highly respected by his superiors all of whom attested that he clearly was telling the TRUTH. This is one case that because of the man’s extraordinary integrity has NEVER been questioned or disproven.
great retort!
I remember an old TV show called Project UFO, where two men from the Air Force would investigate UFO sightings, and usually come up with an explanation. (though the end of the episode would imply that the incidents were real.)
I remember one incident where the investigators themselves saw a odd craft floating past the restaurant where they were eating. Both took copious notes... but when they compared them... found out that the notes didn't match! Also, the craft was a mock-up hung from a helicopter as a publicity stunt.
LOL I liked that show
Hide it all in plain site with a healthy dose of the giggle factor. Been doing that for decades.
Look what the mayor of Pheonix did after 10,000 people reported those lights in the sky all over the area one night on March 13 1997. He paraded a staff member out at the press conference the next day dressed as a 7 foot ET. You better believe he didn't come up with that on his own. He even apologized the next day for insulting all his citizens intelligence to save his political face.
Again it's all very carefully orchestrated. But people are waking up!
there's more than that, they call them selves the sons of God and they were 150 feet in front of me and there ain't no way in hell the government can explain this one they showed me the magnetic sphere of the Earth and we are in trouble😮😮😮😮 and I've seen the governments craft I know what they have and what Russia has
Hey! You're from the 80's, too!!!
60's, really. Looks like more than a few remember that show.@@a.r.r.5626
You guys completely forgot about Quantum Physics, Entanglement, Wormholes and other things you don't want to believe. Physics cannot explain the smallest particle of mass, (if there one) or is it a instance of infinite manifestation?. You may want to reference Paul Dirac's equation (s). Your paradigme of current physics has put your thinking into a box... a box with no windows, and nothing more than the limits if what you can see in your worlds closed box. Newtonian physics was also the "Law" of physics reality in late 1600's....until Einstein came along.... If "reality" is in a state of suspension until it's "measured, the exact possibilities of your Physics rules-Limitations are your prison... until you change you limited thinking. Try your current physics understanding on the coordinates (location) of the "end of the Universe". Stating "it goes on forever" fails your current rules of material physics.... Think About it...
There's another possibility. We're similar to a lab experiment and you don't interrupt a lab experiment until it's completed. So they may be watching, observing, without interfering unless we adversely affect them in some way. Who's to say they don't use some other means of long distance communication other than radio waves, that we don't yet know about.
Brian Dunning, living in a skeptic's paradise. A whole 2.79k narrow minded subscribers who cannot seem to think outside the box.
Pretty dumb aren’t you
From what I gather, Brian is making an effort to encourage us to question and evaluate the information we are being given about aliens.
They lost all credibility for me when they went after the navy videos. The way shitty Mr trigonometry tries to debunk them was weak af & straight up insulting to our navy pilots. These guys are highly trained in observation & he really tried to sit there & act like he's got it all figured out claiming all they were seeing was the butt-end of another aircraft. Like really? He failed to mention there were at least 4 sets of eyes witnessing the object along with air & ship based radar. Then there was the "training pilot" who has never flown anything besides a dinky little 2 seater trying to weigh in like he's had the same training as the navy pilots. Idk, this whole thing irked me. When the Mr trigonometry guy was done with his dollar store debunk & ole dude goes "well, there you have it!" like that fraud actually came to some logical, intelligent conclusion, I lost my shit. Nothing wrong with skepticism, but resorting to pulling things straight out of your ass cause you can't find an answer that aligns with your viewpoint is disgusting & doesn't help anything progress
Exactly & I agree with you.
@@taylormcdaniel603 You think Navy pilots can compete with the one and only God, Mick West? If Mick tried to educate them, their brains would explode. That pilot you talk about "David Fravor" was embarrassed to admit that Mick West's arguments showed that he the great Fravor is clueless about how his own F-18 gimbal targeting pod works. He chose to lie and used "argument from authority" fallacy to self-destruct. Character integrity: zero. David Fravor thought he would die and screamed over radio "I'm engaged, I'm engaged" after seeing submarine launch directly below him, that completely ignored him and vanished away at Mach 2.9 the opposite way of their approach vector towards the CAP point... and no one else saw "tic-tac jumping around like a ping-pong" but him. Why would tic-tac suddenly pretend aerodynamics? It's like if F-18 started speeding through the ocean pretending it's a boat.. doesn't make any sense. Alex Dietrich, his wingman, said different thing, she "saw the object for 10 seconds and haze around it" which is consistent with effect caused by cruise-engine fuel.
Could an Aerogel tic-tak descend to .6 km ASL from 50 km in .7 seconds? Because that is what the combat radar systems read. @@Johnny71c
And does so by not looking in the subject for the last 75 years. He acts like it’s new.
They don't know ! Just because you have not figured it out yet does not mean it is not possible !
Excellent all round view of this issue Brian. The debunking process is especially great, given the high percentage of people who see things at night and attribute their observation to a ufo. I personally hate conspiracy theorists who propagate these stories because they're obviously part of the problem. Are their any bonefied accounts out their at all? Thanks for the video - your efforts etc.
you do have actual accounts of what happened at Ariel school? They were later interviewed as adults and all still said the same thing. They are obviously still alive today
Sir, they were NOT seeing the Orfordness lighthouse. The Orfordness lighthouse had a WHITE beacon, not a RED beacon. I don't know of any lighthouse that has a red beacon. I also take issue with the timing of your beeps. All you need to do to find out what colour beacon the lighthouse has is a few quick internet searches. Is this your outstanding level of evidence you're talking about?
Now it becomes very clear that you have an agenda.
You said it yourself you don't know of any red beacon, in fact Red Beacon is to used to Warn any ships that their directions are dangerous, and also there's a green light too.
@@pillow2k But that lighthouse does not have any other colours. What's your point?
Many, many years ago I do recall the person involved with the lighthouse saying the lighthouse beam never swept in the suggested direction as there was a metal screen to blank this happening. I also recall that the witnesses heard disturbed sounds from the farm animals incoming from the farm in the distance. I am almost sure the man who touched the landed craft (there were three dents found in the ground where the craft had landed) got compensation from the government many years later.
"anecdotal"
The problem with modern Western science is that they think their theories and respective methods of exploration are absolute. We are not talking about bias. Simply that Western scientists are absolutely sure that their current state of scientific analysis and understanding of life as a whole as well as the they have available tools are enough to provide definitive answers. Everything outside their paradigm, research methods and tools is dismissed as non-scientific.
In 1980-1983 I’ve observed ufo’s in Mississippi surveying my grandparents garden fields night after night and would depart through some dimensional portal. I didn’t realize what I saw until I was much older.
My favorite part was the use of the scientific term 'knucklehead' to describe hoaxers. :)
Thank you for this important, interesting and educational documentary! A much needed salve for the UFO fervour pervading the socials currently. Having seen UFOs twice in nearly 50 years of life, both events very different, with one occurring at night during the 1990s and another during the day around 2014, I still haven't found viable explanations for either.
What one did you see in the 1990s, I saw one too
As soon as they said the laws of Physics are immutable was a red flag. Einstein would not be so presumptuous. Maybe they could explain spooky entanglement at a distance. I’m sure Mick West would have an answer.
The Nimitz data involved multiple readings providing a wealth of data. All ignored. The hatchet job on Rendlesham Forest and Ariel School as laughable if it wasn’t so downright misleading. Again evidence was ignored. I found myself concerned watching this. Someone is paying a lot of money to make this film and actually distorting data and ignoring information to fit an agenda.
Fart monsters from 🪐 outer space😂?
Alien are from interspace, not outer space. I live in Australia, even night I watch the stars and stuff is moving up there, and it is not NASA.