I understand the frustration of not being able to complete all of the content but it’s not blizzards job to help you juggle 3-4 versions of their game. If you don’t have the time to do it you simple don’t have the time. Prioritize and enjoy what you can complete
Thats not an excuse. The game has alot of droughts all the time... some people like world of warcraft in general and want to play it all the time but how can they if there are content droughts only because blizz doesnt stagger their releases, its literally in their best interest to stagger the releases so people never unsub. Also its an MMO that requires more commitment than other games because fomo is actually real since its a community based game, if youre not involved at launch you will miss the most fun part of an MMO and will also fall behind in some versions. Its inexcusable to release two different versions with 4 days apart... in an mmo that takes a week or two before youre bored outside of raids, like what happened with their patches all the time prior to classic. And classic is a much slower version. Now that we think about it, it actually is blizzard's job to make us juggle between the game versions and theyve done a piss poor job at it. Most casuals only have time to play one version fully at a time and another secondarily... so them releasing like 4 different variants to be played at the sametime dilutes the community massively thus making all versions of the game worse as a result. Its not about completion, its about entertainment. Never force people to prioritize, give them an incentive instead.
I hope they release a lvl 19, 29, 39, 49 etc pvp server for different expacs. I also hope they just move PvP into its own server ecosystem and give it all the changes and custom content it needs to thrive.
I would hate to be a wow dev people screaming content drought after speed running all the content faster then you can make it while also be mad when you slow them down for year after year only to eventually get to the point where now people are screaming about too much content
They hardly slowed it down tho... and the only reason why people are "speed running" the content is because theres so little content and its too easy. SoD has an exp buff and in p3 you could get to max level in 6 hours, that doesnt look like "slowing it down" to me. Again, the devs have been digging this content drough-hole for years... they keep releasing content thats done in less than 1 week by casuals and then its annoying chores with raidlogging again and they are supposed to be surprised people are asking more content so soon? Theres a reason why classic at launch lasted for several months before the tourists started logging off, the content was alot slower despite being so old we knew everything about it. They are cannibalizing their own game versions because of the content being too slow to develop and too fast to complete for the majority of the playerbase. Raidlogging is not inherently fun, especially during a content drought. Retail raids for example are way too complicated design for their own good... it probably takes many months to make them (and resources, probably more than the overworld because of the different difficulties). If they made the raids alot simpler (simple doesnt mean easy, look at elden ring) they could make more of them faster. Molten Core was originally done in 1 week, imagine if they did one such new raid a week and released them in a bunch every few months (or any other content, doesnt have to be raids)... it would be ALOT of content thats not too hard and not too easy. In classic it was cleared in a day but thats because of the 15 years of knowledge, imagine if it was brand new design and nobody knew anything about it. The hardcore nolifers would clear it in 1 week if not a day for sure but not those who cant play without guides, and boy is there alot of those kinds of casuals. :D Current raid design drains too much resources from the development for so little gain and such little participation. Its just sad and its their longest format content and its cleared in less than a month if youre not doing the hardest difficulty which most arent. We dont have to go to 1 week development but it certainly shouldnt be this bad of a ratio. SoD content feels so minuscule in what it actually delivers and even the old content is altered to be faster so i dont blame you for thinking everyone speedruns it.
they didn't need to do vanilla like 3 times in a row hardcore never sold me sod never gained my interest i don't know what seasonal is but im fine with rotating classics and retail
I think the main take away here is that there is no perfect solution there will always be issues and those issues are also subjective. It's probably better over all to provide customers with more choices then less. Some people will nope out and not play anything because of too many choices but most people will play the 1 or 2 versions they like and the rest will dabble in all of it.
14:20 they see characters created /levels achieved / hours played etc, and combine it with player feedback from every platform and by this point should have a good idea of what people want and dont want (COPIUM) but the rate blizzard develops classic is very slow for a seasonal game version like SoD, thats why SoD has gotten less and less players because the only seasonal update and addition to classic is a new reskinned raid and a small world pvp event, its great for the first 2 seasons but most of us expected more and expected blizzard to expand the classic team way more to be able to pump out bigger content patches then that.
Wel, they do know exactly how many unique accounts are playing each version, and they know exactly what each account is playing. It really doesn't matter in the end for them if you're subscribing for Classic or Retail or MoP or SoD, what matters is that you are bouncing in that ecosystem and staying subbed.
It’s actually funny how all these content creators who are not developers always make the statement that Blizzard Devs don’t have mechanisms to track how users use their different IP products. I speak from experience as a product owner in a SaSS company, it’s about the easiest thing to track. Blizzard has exact metrics on how long a user (their specific login) is on a product, how many things they do in that content, and how much they don’t do. They can generate those numbers at scale for all users and all derivates in their products to make strategic decisions about which products to focus on.
More than one version of WOW makes life go too quickly for me. Between work, working out, WOW, and life in general there's no time to slow down and reflect. I found keeping it to one version at a time slow it down enough for me. I feel like i'm not alone in this as being in that group that reaches irl lvl 30 this year. just some thoughts as i make my way to the trainer for travel form
People sleep on Maplestory it came out in 2003 before WoW, and it basically created Gacha and P2W, but no one knows it, and it still hasn't died. I always liked Maplestory more than any MMO, until the Big Bang and it became insanely P2W. I also liked Guild Wars 1 more than WoW, that's probably the best Western MMO ever created. WoW just appealed to the masses, and had tons of marketing.
IMO after Cata and SoD they should close those servers and make a Classic + server. At that point you'll have Retail, Classic+, era, and hardcore - 2 of which don't require any work or development time.
i've been saying it from years get a separate team like osrs did and have a vote where the majority wants to start at and release NEW and different content from then i personally think they could start at like wod (the worst but the most potential to be the best) expansion and do it right and create a new story for afterwards
My issue with the game is the class balance patches that change from week to week. It gets exhausting trying to keep up with what is op and what is trash. And before someone tries to point out that it doesn't matter what class is op, try tanking a pugged high key with anything other than a DH. Good luck getting invited.
I don't play cata, but if I did I'd probably have way too much to do. I've called it for DF S4 and have almost 1.4mil bronze in MoP remix and now I'm leveling a character for p4 of SoD. Perfect mix for me but if I added even one more(cata) it'd be way too much. Can't do it all
I really don’t see the “problem” as you mentioned. People go to a mall or Walmart etc as you can get (do) everything. Wow having multiple fronts to cater to multiple players/play styles is a GOOD thing. It seems like the popular play is to kick the game for likes because god forbid blizz actually listens and does things right..we can’t have that
If a Wow expansion is good I stick around for 3/4 months like I did with Dragonflight. Last time I stayed longer than that was Legion. BFA I dipped out very early I was extremely annoyed with the Azerite garbage system, and Shadowlands is the first expansion I didn't even try ever. I just don't have the patience to put up with grind fest unfun chores anymore, especially on a game I'm paying a subscription for. Oh, Dragonflight Solo shuffle queues takes one hour and group finder PVP is still unusable? See you next expansion. Back in the day I would have stayed playing through the bad times and things that annoyed me until it felt like a chore and got burnt out, which lead to me liking WOW as a game less over time. Don't do that anymore I just dip.
@Xaryu Except WOD that wasn't fun for the first 2 week because you couldn't play it until the 3rd week because the servers were so dogshit so many of my friends and Guildies left because they couldn't even log on. No such thing as too many WOW's you just play the ones or 1 that you want to I wouldn't play SOD it looks shit Rogue Tanks which idiot had that idea. Vanilla Classic id play for sure I started back in 2004 but id also play Retail again if it goes on Game Pass as I have a lot of friends who play through XBOX and they would love to give WOW a go and it may force Blizz to get rid of addons as they wouldn't be allowed on console.
After Earth wasn't even that bad, bandwagon haters will always hate. I watched that movie blind, no reviews effected or distorted my opinion. I do that with the majority of the content I consume. Like that comment 5:27 "one of the worse movies ive ever seen" I bet that troll never even watched the movie.
Imagine being a dev at blizzard for warcraft, the community is never happy, first to litle content, then to much! I think people need to take accountability if they feel burnout bcs they need to chase a cosmetic in remix, get a grip
Wow have 2 type of players: people who wants 0.1% chance of drops on items, and people who wants full gear in one raid. If you try to satisfy one group you fuk the other group plain and simple
I think the choice between retail classic etc is a great thing not a bad thing.. cuz people are picky.. and fun choices is what is great about it... anything hc grindy is bleh.. and only works for someone like asmongold.. a minority in this game...
Lmfaoo they solved how to make themselves money and make their games suck xD. The imbalance of economy of gold bevause they dont ban gold buyers is HILARIOUS. Ive had 2 try to play n quit because the level 25 stuff is 50 gold a stack lmfaoooooooo. Ohh if youre a streamer though buy all the fucking gold you want. Theres 5 retail streamers that didnt play tbc or wrath for 1 minute but come on cata and magically have 300-500k gold ? Very great company 10/10
What are you guys talking about Tourghast all the time? i was Resto shamy, my rain kill everything and my spirit link totem also :D it was always around 10m runs at highest diff. I did have fun.
@@PeterTheDeleter I'm meaning as to why its never been beaten. When a new mmo comes out its nit as good because we compare to wow. And classic was good because nostalgia and reminds us of easier time. Not just me. This is very widely understood. Maybe basic minds won't get it.
the downside of this yes it too much content we may not be able to do everything but it okay i guess. now the player base is big but some server are dead see classic or even some sod. it scater the player quite a bit
They clearly don't space SoD around the other content at all. That's why we got 4 releases in like 2 months time. They are delaying SoD to ensure quality and allowing more casual players time to play through the content.
You ppl and classic plus in super cringe at this point. Wtf is sod than if y’all hate on sod ur gonna hate classic Plus. All you ppl who are asking for classic plus will cry about everything in classic plus let’s be real.
I think it would be great if I could take my characters into any version of the game, and I would just scale appropriately to level. Then they could allow the currency transfer to work across characters and versions.
If they want a real shot at making Classic+ work, they need to make sure that one team can focus all their energy on it. Having Aggrend and team manage both Cata Classic and SoD has just set them up for failure. The teams that handle Plunderstorm and MoP remix need to take over Classic Expansions. Neither game mode is getting the attention it deserves. And Classic+ is going to be an order of magnitude more challenging.
@@thegreattaiyou I agree. I think they should stop working on OG classic in general. It's old and re-done content that is predictable. I think it was fun for the moment, but we need new content. In a classic format with classic + could be a great way to please both parties.
why do wow players act like level sync isnt the worst thing to ever happen to all mmos. FFXIV is top tier because it only level syncs in group content. Retail WOW Is bad specifically because of level sync. Wow classic was dope because it didnt have level sync? it was a real challenge the whole time. Lol classic servers are dead now and they are very literally releasing the same games over again lmao Wow is not the best its not good anymore at its core. It needs all these versions. FFXIV literally closed its servers and rebirthed itself. Blizzard is scared and very much beating a dead horse. Blizzard literally has to pay these guys to be Shills on the internet
eso would be good if it wasnt pay to win, the subscription for quality of life is dumb just make content that requires a subscription... Makes me mad because both eso and new world are only mmos like eachother combat wise and they both dead and suck
"wow has not be dethroned in 20 years" These are claims from WoW players =p, Go Google "game review gw2" Then google "game review world of warcraft" THEN google "game review FFXIV" I could go on and on and on but my point is WoW reviews from other gamers who did not get stuck playing wow for 20 years isnt that good and that is the reality. Even oldschool runescape is BETTER than WoW, Just because lots of people used to play the game does not mean its the best, this is a claim only WoW players make.
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I understand the frustration of not being able to complete all of the content but it’s not blizzards job to help you juggle 3-4 versions of their game. If you don’t have the time to do it you simple don’t have the time. Prioritize and enjoy what you can complete
Thats not an excuse. The game has alot of droughts all the time... some people like world of warcraft in general and want to play it all the time but how can they if there are content droughts only because blizz doesnt stagger their releases, its literally in their best interest to stagger the releases so people never unsub.
Also its an MMO that requires more commitment than other games because fomo is actually real since its a community based game, if youre not involved at launch you will miss the most fun part of an MMO and will also fall behind in some versions.
Its inexcusable to release two different versions with 4 days apart... in an mmo that takes a week or two before youre bored outside of raids, like what happened with their patches all the time prior to classic. And classic is a much slower version.
Now that we think about it, it actually is blizzard's job to make us juggle between the game versions and theyve done a piss poor job at it. Most casuals only have time to play one version fully at a time and another secondarily... so them releasing like 4 different variants to be played at the sametime dilutes the community massively thus making all versions of the game worse as a result.
Its not about completion, its about entertainment. Never force people to prioritize, give them an incentive instead.
Love that you know about business as well. Just all around chill dude just out here trying to help.
I hope they release a lvl 19, 29, 39, 49 etc pvp server for different expacs.
I also hope they just move PvP into its own server ecosystem and give it all the changes and custom content it needs to thrive.
Arena Tournament Servers would be great for about 0.01% of the player base
@razman95x it would have a bigger population if actually had balance between classes and not gear dependent
That sounds like a terrible idea but yeah good thoughts :)
I would hate to be a wow dev people screaming content drought after speed running all the content faster then you can make it while also be mad when you slow them down for year after year only to eventually get to the point where now people are screaming about too much content
They hardly slowed it down tho... and the only reason why people are "speed running" the content is because theres so little content and its too easy. SoD has an exp buff and in p3 you could get to max level in 6 hours, that doesnt look like "slowing it down" to me.
Again, the devs have been digging this content drough-hole for years... they keep releasing content thats done in less than 1 week by casuals and then its annoying chores with raidlogging again and they are supposed to be surprised people are asking more content so soon?
Theres a reason why classic at launch lasted for several months before the tourists started logging off, the content was alot slower despite being so old we knew everything about it.
They are cannibalizing their own game versions because of the content being too slow to develop and too fast to complete for the majority of the playerbase. Raidlogging is not inherently fun, especially during a content drought.
Retail raids for example are way too complicated design for their own good... it probably takes many months to make them (and resources, probably more than the overworld because of the different difficulties). If they made the raids alot simpler (simple doesnt mean easy, look at elden ring) they could make more of them faster.
Molten Core was originally done in 1 week, imagine if they did one such new raid a week and released them in a bunch every few months (or any other content, doesnt have to be raids)... it would be ALOT of content thats not too hard and not too easy. In classic it was cleared in a day but thats because of the 15 years of knowledge, imagine if it was brand new design and nobody knew anything about it.
The hardcore nolifers would clear it in 1 week if not a day for sure but not those who cant play without guides, and boy is there alot of those kinds of casuals. :D
Current raid design drains too much resources from the development for so little gain and such little participation. Its just sad and its their longest format content and its cleared in less than a month if youre not doing the hardest difficulty which most arent.
We dont have to go to 1 week development but it certainly shouldnt be this bad of a ratio.
SoD content feels so minuscule in what it actually delivers and even the old content is altered to be faster so i dont blame you for thinking everyone speedruns it.
they didn't need to do vanilla like 3 times in a row
hardcore never sold me sod never gained my interest
i don't know what seasonal is but im fine with rotating classics and retail
Yeah SOD and the cata treadmill does not interest me at all, i just play retail and era, era has zero maintenance you just play for fun.
I think the main take away here is that there is no perfect solution there will always be issues and those issues are also subjective. It's probably better over all to provide customers with more choices then less. Some people will nope out and not play anything because of too many choices but most people will play the 1 or 2 versions they like and the rest will dabble in all of it.
14:20 they see characters created /levels achieved / hours played etc, and combine it with player feedback from every platform and by this point should have a good idea of what people want and dont want (COPIUM) but the rate blizzard develops classic is very slow for a seasonal game version like SoD, thats why SoD has gotten less and less players because the only seasonal update and addition to classic is a new reskinned raid and a small world pvp event, its great for the first 2 seasons but most of us expected more and expected blizzard to expand the classic team way more to be able to pump out bigger content patches then that.
decision fatigue is a real thing, I am not playing any game cause I cant choose lol
Also, my friends seem to be interested in the opposite version that I am :( Adding to the fatigue.
loved the vegeta goku comparison especially when YOUR hairline is the same like Vegetas!
Wel, they do know exactly how many unique accounts are playing each version, and they know exactly what each account is playing. It really doesn't matter in the end for them if you're subscribing for Classic or Retail or MoP or SoD, what matters is that you are bouncing in that ecosystem and staying subbed.
I try to play each version when possible and am having fun doing so! Wild/good times lol!👍🏼👍🏼👏👏👏👏😲😲😲💥💥💫💫✨✨
xar u really needa educate yourself on pure pwnage
It’s actually funny how all these content creators who are not developers always make the statement that Blizzard Devs don’t have mechanisms to track how users use their different IP products. I speak from experience as a product owner in a SaSS company, it’s about the easiest thing to track. Blizzard has exact metrics on how long a user (their specific login) is on a product, how many things they do in that content, and how much they don’t do. They can generate those numbers at scale for all users and all derivates in their products to make strategic decisions about which products to focus on.
More than one version of WOW makes life go too quickly for me. Between work, working out, WOW, and life in general there's no time to slow down and reflect. I found keeping it to one version at a time slow it down enough for me. I feel like i'm not alone in this as being in that group that reaches irl lvl 30 this year. just some thoughts as i make my way to the trainer for travel form
People sleep on Maplestory it came out in 2003 before WoW, and it basically created Gacha and P2W, but no one knows it, and it still hasn't died. I always liked Maplestory more than any MMO, until the Big Bang and it became insanely P2W. I also liked Guild Wars 1 more than WoW, that's probably the best Western MMO ever created. WoW just appealed to the masses, and had tons of marketing.
What are you talking about? Any long term mmo player knows maplestory. They just dont play it, because p2w
i hope they release another or 2 versions at gamescom
Hahaha, I love Pure Pwnage, I forgot about that series. I’m really looking for to TTW. Retail is better than ever right now!
IMO after Cata and SoD they should close those servers and make a Classic + server. At that point you'll have Retail, Classic+, era, and hardcore - 2 of which don't require any work or development time.
i've been saying it from years get a separate team like osrs did and have a vote where the majority wants to start at and release NEW and different content from then i personally think they could start at like wod (the worst but the most potential to be the best) expansion and do it right and create a new story for afterwards
ESO just needs simplified. Its very hard to get into now because they really need a more linear path for new players. You get lost so easily.
My issue with the game is the class balance patches that change from week to week. It gets exhausting trying to keep up with what is op and what is trash. And before someone tries to point out that it doesn't matter what class is op, try tanking a pugged high key with anything other than a DH. Good luck getting invited.
Its a role playing game, you should be playing what feels close to ur heart not what does bigger numbers, rerollong meta sucksass
Pure pwnage BIS wow content
100% I have to rewatch that classic
It does create some problems sure, but ultimately, I'd rather have too many options then have nothing to do so I agree with Preach.
I don't play cata, but if I did I'd probably have way too much to do. I've called it for DF S4 and have almost 1.4mil bronze in MoP remix and now I'm leveling a character for p4 of SoD. Perfect mix for me but if I added even one more(cata) it'd be way too much. Can't do it all
I really don’t see the “problem” as you mentioned. People go to a mall or Walmart etc as you can get (do) everything. Wow having multiple fronts to cater to multiple players/play styles is a GOOD thing. It seems like the popular play is to kick the game for likes because god forbid blizz actually listens and does things right..we can’t have that
If they remove the monthly sub, a lot more people would play.
a lot more bots too
@@llwonder Bot's are out of control regardless, that isn't a valid excuse.
You think they’ll just give up $112,000,000 a month?
disagree with them missing the numbers they know the amount of players on every server 24/7
Goku/vegeta metaphor was Based
Just wait until they do cross-over.
If a Wow expansion is good I stick around for 3/4 months like I did with Dragonflight. Last time I stayed longer than that was Legion. BFA I dipped out very early I was extremely annoyed with the Azerite garbage system, and Shadowlands is the first expansion I didn't even try ever. I just don't have the patience to put up with grind fest unfun chores anymore, especially on a game I'm paying a subscription for. Oh, Dragonflight Solo shuffle queues takes one hour and group finder PVP is still unusable? See you next expansion. Back in the day I would have stayed playing through the bad times and things that annoyed me until it felt like a chore and got burnt out, which lead to me liking WOW as a game less over time. Don't do that anymore I just dip.
Came back to s4 after quiting in s2 queues got a lot better, never had longer than 15 min queue from 0 to 2.4k
@Xaryu Except WOD that wasn't fun for the first 2 week because you couldn't play it until the 3rd week because the servers were so dogshit so many of my friends and Guildies left because they couldn't even log on.
No such thing as too many WOW's you just play the ones or 1 that you want to I wouldn't play SOD it looks shit Rogue Tanks which idiot had that idea. Vanilla Classic id play for sure I started back in 2004 but id also play Retail again if it goes on Game Pass as I have a lot of friends who play through XBOX and they would love to give WOW a go and it may force Blizz to get rid of addons as they wouldn't be allowed on console.
Xar you should do a msq play through of ff14
After Earth wasn't even that bad, bandwagon haters will always hate. I watched that movie blind, no reviews effected or distorted my opinion. I do that with the majority of the content I consume. Like that comment 5:27 "one of the worse movies ive ever seen" I bet that troll never even watched the movie.
Maybe you're just a contrarian. That movie was cheeks. Bad cgi, bad acting, bad script. Shymalan is trash.
Imagine being a dev at blizzard for warcraft, the community is never happy, first to litle content, then to much!
I think people need to take accountability if they feel burnout bcs they need to chase a cosmetic in remix, get a grip
Wow have 2 type of players: people who wants 0.1% chance of drops on items, and people who wants full gear in one raid. If you try to satisfy one group you fuk the other group plain and simple
You'd really like destiny. The dungeons/raids are very fun .
I think the choice between retail classic etc is a great thing not a bad thing.. cuz people are picky.. and fun choices is what is great about it... anything hc grindy is bleh.. and only works for someone like asmongold.. a minority in this game...
Lmfaoo they solved how to make themselves money and make their games suck xD. The imbalance of economy of gold bevause they dont ban gold buyers is HILARIOUS. Ive had 2 try to play n quit because the level 25 stuff is 50 gold a stack lmfaoooooooo. Ohh if youre a streamer though buy all the fucking gold you want. Theres 5 retail streamers that didnt play tbc or wrath for 1 minute but come on cata and magically have 300-500k gold ? Very great company 10/10
you realize the streamers have so much gold because their viewers donate it to them?
@@pilafp I'm not talking about big streamers like Soda / Xar / Asmon. I'm saying pvp streamers that average 10-50 viewers
What are you guys talking about Tourghast all the time? i was Resto shamy, my rain kill everything and my spirit link totem also :D it was always around 10m runs at highest diff. I did have fun.
Its simply nostalgic to play wow. Nothing more.
For you
@@PeterTheDeleter I'm meaning as to why its never been beaten. When a new mmo comes out its nit as good because we compare to wow. And classic was good because nostalgia and reminds us of easier time. Not just me. This is very widely understood. Maybe basic minds won't get it.
the downside of this yes it too much content we may not be able to do everything but it okay i guess. now the player base is big but some server are dead see classic or even some sod. it scater the player quite a bit
I hate the way they cycle content, I'm only interested in the season of discovery and them spacing content around other versions is super annoying.
They clearly don't space SoD around the other content at all. That's why we got 4 releases in like 2 months time. They are delaying SoD to ensure quality and allowing more casual players time to play through the content.
Another copium video here we go
Move on to another video, keep on trolling.
bruh its a react video relax 😂
Wow is the king of MMOs GTFO
Preach is copium.
I feel like there is a difference between a nice Guy and copium lol, he doesn't build a channel based off doomer content like 90% of the WOW CCs.
I'd rather them focus on a permanent classic + and retail
You ppl and classic plus in super cringe at this point. Wtf is sod than if y’all hate on sod ur gonna hate classic
Plus. All you ppl who are asking for classic plus will cry about everything in classic plus let’s be real.
Wow token ruins everything
I think it would be great if I could take my characters into any version of the game, and I would just scale appropriately to level. Then they could allow the currency transfer to work across characters and versions.
Love Preach, but I really miss him.and Ghosty together.
Idk who ghosty is... now I'm curious
@@DarthenosC9Someone that used to make content with Preach. They had some kind of disagreement and we never saw him again after that :/
I play because its still fun. just sayin.
Wow community is so toxic though
Reee there is too much content reeee
I really believe Blizzard should focus on the big 3:
1. Retail WoW
2. Classic SOD WoW (Converting to Classic +)
3. Plunderstorm
If they want a real shot at making Classic+ work, they need to make sure that one team can focus all their energy on it.
Having Aggrend and team manage both Cata Classic and SoD has just set them up for failure.
The teams that handle Plunderstorm and MoP remix need to take over Classic Expansions. Neither game mode is getting the attention it deserves. And Classic+ is going to be an order of magnitude more challenging.
@@thegreattaiyou I agree. I think they should stop working on OG classic in general. It's old and re-done content that is predictable. I think it was fun for the moment, but we need new content. In a classic format with classic + could be a great way to please both parties.
Yes, replaying expacs on very last patch never made any sense to me
They need to have NA and EU be able to play together now.
Bad take, no one wants to play on 200ping
@@PeterTheDeleter except everyone who plays private servers. “No one” is a bit broad of a statement. I’d say having the option is better than not.
Just have retail and classic, that's it
why do wow players act like level sync isnt the worst thing to ever happen to all mmos. FFXIV is top tier because it only level syncs in group content. Retail WOW Is bad specifically because of level sync. Wow classic was dope because it didnt have level sync? it was a real challenge the whole time. Lol classic servers are dead now and they are very literally releasing the same games over again lmao Wow is not the best its not good anymore at its core. It needs all these versions. FFXIV literally closed its servers and rebirthed itself. Blizzard is scared and very much beating a dead horse. Blizzard literally has to pay these guys to be Shills on the internet
eso would be good if it wasnt pay to win, the subscription for quality of life is dumb just make content that requires a subscription... Makes me mad because both eso and new world are only mmos like eachother combat wise and they both dead and suck
Potentially can have some fun again in New World oct 15 for at least a bit, but who knows how long it will actually last this time.
That and the loot boxes
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"wow has not be dethroned in 20 years"
These are claims from WoW players =p, Go Google "game review gw2" Then google "game review world of warcraft" THEN google "game review FFXIV"
I could go on and on and on but my point is WoW reviews from other gamers who did not get stuck playing wow for 20 years isnt that good and that is the reality.
Even oldschool runescape is BETTER than WoW, Just because lots of people used to play the game does not mean its the best, this is a claim only WoW players make.
Reviews arnt the end all be alll lol they can give bad games good reviews and vice versa. Just look at active players and use that as the criteria