Your videos are always the best without the crazy fluff and you just get to the point. Also, more real-world examples. You’ve helped me a few times. Thank you.
I have an iMac with 8gb of ram and it is not cutting it at all. Just by the normal applications that I need for school and editing far surpasses what 8gb can do. I will be upgrading to 32gb shortly and thanks for making this video. It was more useful than any other video I've found!
So informative, thank you! I have an 8gb iMac that ran slow right out of the box. Had no idea about RAM importance when I purchased and now looking to either swap it out for one with more RAM built in or upgrade the RAM myself.
Yes its actually pretty crazy how much slower a powerful mac will run when its ram is maxed out, and so many applications just eat it up. how old is the iMac? there might also just be some limitations with older CPU and GPUs. all the new mac's with m1 all have integrated RAM so you cant upgrade the ram yourself unfortunately. the newest iMac should be arriving around march 2022 which should be extremely powerful.
This was very helpful! I'm still rather new to editing on youtube but have been experiencing problems with some of my editing with the PC slowing down. I have 2 8G sticks for a total of 16G, and that clearly isn't enough. I hope that 2 more 8Gs will get me something usable instead of buying a whole new set
Very impressive content and delivery! Appreciate your intelligence and your careful presentation. I learned more in your video than I did in the previous hour of ram comparisons by other channels! Thank you!
Applications will always ask for more than they will use and load code and data they will never use. Those assigned pages being set aside makes more room to improve performance. It will always happen with proactive memory management no matter how much there is. It's still useful to have enough RAM to avoid anything going to storage, esp if an SSD. If it's extremely fast you might not notice a slow down from swapping, but overall endurance of SSDs is going down as bits per cell goes up.
Tymek, late question but can you tell me if the newer M.2 drives have lessened the need, to any degree, for increasing RAM? In other words, should M.2's factor into how much RAM to install? Thanks. Sub'd.
bro thanks for the video! I was looking at a base model m1 macbook with 8gb ram. Many reviews said you can edit 4k video on the 8gb model but I was skeptical as I use a PC with 32gb ram and that is almost not enough on long videos. budget around $1000 so going for a windows laptop with upgrade-able ram so I can get 64gb ram alter
64 gigs @3600mhz for our video editing projects with a 12gb RTX 3060 graphics card. Today was the first time I got adobe premiere up to 45gbs for a project... Definitely looking to max out my system at 128gbs just waiting to justify it when our projects get just a tad bigger.
Nice! i wonder if Adobe is maybe a little less Ram hungry. on my iMac i can get over 45 gb RAM pretty easy. i also only got 32 GB on my M1 Max Macbook pro but i think that whole system in general has slightly different rules than the traditional RAM. 128 GB ram will be a monster though!
@tourinojacks5844 been great she runs smooth sometimes I might have to drop to 1/4 quality for playback but that's if the video is 45+ minutes or I'm doing alot with graphics exports within 5 to 10 minutes everytime as well
@@wheeliehutjr Cool beans. I actually have a 2015 MacBook Pro Core i5 2.4 GHZ 1 TB SSD with 16GB and I need to either buy a brand new laptop, or expand the RAM on this one. Mine works great until I open the Adobe software to use Photoshop or Premier Pro, then I am screwed after about 30 minutes of usage and other windows open. Hoping 32GB or 64GB does the trick. Your thoughts? How old is your computer may I ask? Similar specs as mine or different?
@tourinojacks5844 I'm on a core i5 processor too & had 16gb before doing the ram pretty much fixed all of my issues but I also have a dedicated Nvidia 1660TI gpu which is good for editing & stuff like that I'd think it's worth a shot if you can find the ram under 200 for a 64gb everyone says 32gb is all that's needed for editing I went 64gb just for the extra wiggle room plus it wasn't much more to do so I'd give it a try before buying a whole new setup spending atleast 1k+ for a capable computer
Thank you very much! Most videos about the amount of ram needed for video editing suggest up to 32GB. I have 32GB installed in my system, but very usually reach full workload. I have thougt about upgrading to 64GB and now-ts clear, that I will do it soon :)
@@Vordigon1 When you have a lot of CPU threads and have an addiction to keeping them busy, you do that as soon as you can afford it without missing the cost for anything else.
great video But I would like your opinion. I'm about to buy a used macbook pro. And find 2 models that fit in my pocket. Both are from mid-2019 with the same processor, with the same 8gb 5500 video card model. But one comes with 64gb of ram and 512 of ssd while the other 32gb of ram with 2tb of ssd. Which should I choose? I want it for video editing, running 4 or 5 vms and playing at leisure. Thanks
Well-done. I'm doing 1080p editing on a laptop with 12 gigs memory. I'm thinking if I do a build I will want to put in 32 gb DDR4 minimum to do editing and anything else. (I don't game)
I was using a laptop with 8gb DDR4 RAM, i7 8550U and onboard graphics and an m.2 SSD to do some video editing, Fusion 360, Realsteady GO. It didn't do too bad but it did take Realsteady about an hour or more to render a 3 minute 2.7k video I upgraded to an i7 12700H processor, 3050 ti 4gb video but still only have 4gn of DDR4 RAM. I just ordered 32gb of DDR4 so I should be set. I think? I hope!
Personally use 64 GB of RAM. Initially started with 32GB but found my video editor of the day was running slow, and suffered delays with Lightroom and Photoshop. Now works a breeze...
no problem :) and thank you for being the first to comment in 8 months! haha. Sorry to bother you with a question, but i recently got monetized and i was just curious if you were served ads?
good lord - what a memory hog Lightroom Classic turns out to be! My current (old PC) has 64 GByte just for Photoshop which I only need for extremely large PSD files with a lot of layers in them (e.g. resulting from @adobecreate's watercolor artist action when applied to high-MP images.).
for both my macs 2 tb. my old mac had a mix of 128 gb SSD and 2 tb HDD, my new mac has 2tb full SSD, but when i am fully loading all my memory, i might as well be on a potato, everything is so slow. its crazy how much faster RAM is then even SSD's
By the way, your video is really important to new Apple Mac Studio buyers, because RAM is not upgradeable, and increasing RAM to either Max or Ultra models delays delivery until early June. After watching your video I am content to wait, since I really want increased RAM.
I think the only Caveat to that is how different the Ram is on an m1 vs. A traditional intel motherboard. I haven’t extensively Ram tests for the new generation. But I keep seeing others say that Ram on the m1 is twice as efficient as intel. So 32 gb Ram on m1 is like 64 gb on intel. I ran a lot of tests in Final Cut Pro between the m1 pro and m1 max ( m1 max double GPU cores and RAM at 32 for each) and there was very little difference between the two. I wasn’t specifically comparing Ram but I was expecting a lot different results.
I bought a 4gb computer and it was freezing for hours at a time. Way to small as I cant run photoshop and lightroom without it crashing and was goping to be able to run the program from external 1tb drives . Will have to return and get at least 16gb
Yea 4gb of memory will be very slow. Im not even sure if running through external drives would help as i think it would still be using your computers Memory. when i turn my computer on its already using about 8 gb of ram.
@@TymekStolarz I'm photostacking full frame images. One stack takes easy 40gb ram, so I have to restart the pc almost each photo done. With 256 I can do a couple with no crash. The amount of ram needed is insane
If you’re saying that because there seems to be a low amount of free memory, that might be an incorrect assumption. Apple follows the engineering mantra of “unused memory is wasted memory.” It’s an expensive resource related to performance, so you want to keep as much of it in use as you can as long as you aren’t starving other apps. When a lot of memory is already used when nothing is going on, those are often processes that are pre-allocating memory into purgeable caches to optimize performance during the session, and that is a good use of memory. A lot of people have commented on how there are tasks that cannot be handled efficiently under 8GB memory on Intel, but an Apple Silicon Mac with 8GB can handle the same tasks surprisingly smoothly. And Apple Silicon Unified Memory is a better way to share memory between OS and graphics hardware than Intel integrated graphics. So actually, the general feeling is that macOS manages memory quite well.
How much ram do you have, and what kind of programs are you running? Do you wish you had more?
I got 96gb of ram, doing after effects and premiere pro.
@@OSKVIDCreativemedia And that works well for you?
@@TymekStolarz More than enough
@@OSKVIDCreativemedia interesting. personally there are times where 64 gb was slowing me down
Been looking for a solid “real world” test on how RAM makes a difference in a computers performance! great video!
Good morning and thank you very much :) I am glad you found my video then and I was able to help :)
Your videos are always the best without the crazy fluff and you just get to the point. Also, more real-world examples. You’ve helped me a few times. Thank you.
Good video here. I am just questioning why there aren't more robust laptops made with these great specs of 32GB to 64 GB?
I have an iMac with 8gb of ram and it is not cutting it at all. Just by the normal applications that I need for school and editing far surpasses what 8gb can do. I will be upgrading to 32gb shortly and thanks for making this video. It was more useful than any other video I've found!
Did you ever upgrade? If so, what did you add and how has it been afterwards?
So informative, thank you! I have an 8gb iMac that ran slow right out of the box. Had no idea about RAM importance when I purchased and now looking to either swap it out for one with more RAM built in or upgrade the RAM myself.
Yes its actually pretty crazy how much slower a powerful mac will run when its ram is maxed out, and so many applications just eat it up. how old is the iMac? there might also just be some limitations with older CPU and GPUs. all the new mac's with m1 all have integrated RAM so you cant upgrade the ram yourself unfortunately. the newest iMac should be arriving around march 2022 which should be extremely powerful.
This was very helpful! I'm still rather new to editing on youtube but have been experiencing problems with some of my editing with the PC slowing down. I have 2 8G sticks for a total of 16G, and that clearly isn't enough. I hope that 2 more 8Gs will get me something usable instead of buying a whole new set
Very impressive content and delivery! Appreciate your intelligence and your careful presentation. I learned more in your video than I did in the previous hour of ram comparisons by other channels! Thank you!
That’s awesome! :) I’m glad I could help out. And thank you very much for letting me know. I really appreciate it!
Defiantly great info about RAM ! Looking forward to see more info from you Tymek !! Great !!
Thank you kindly. I cant wait to make more!
Applications will always ask for more than they will use and load code and data they will never use. Those assigned pages being set aside makes more room to improve performance. It will always happen with proactive memory management no matter how much there is. It's still useful to have enough RAM to avoid anything going to storage, esp if an SSD. If it's extremely fast you might not notice a slow down from swapping, but overall endurance of SSDs is going down as bits per cell goes up.
Excellent explanation, thank you.
Tymek, late question but can you tell me if the newer M.2 drives have lessened the need, to any degree, for increasing RAM? In other words, should M.2's factor into how much RAM to install?
Thanks. Sub'd.
bro thanks for the video! I was looking at a base model m1 macbook with 8gb ram. Many reviews said you can edit 4k video on the 8gb model but I was skeptical as I use a PC with 32gb ram and that is almost not enough on long videos. budget around $1000 so going for a windows laptop with upgrade-able ram so I can get 64gb ram alter
64 gigs @3600mhz for our video editing projects with a 12gb RTX 3060 graphics card. Today was the first time I got adobe premiere up to 45gbs for a project... Definitely looking to max out my system at 128gbs just waiting to justify it when our projects get just a tad bigger.
Nice! i wonder if Adobe is maybe a little less Ram hungry. on my iMac i can get over 45 gb RAM pretty easy. i also only got 32 GB on my M1 Max Macbook pro but i think that whole system in general has slightly different rules than the traditional RAM. 128 GB ram will be a monster though!
Keep posting bro you made a good quality video i just ordered a 64 gb upgrade from 16 gb yesterday
Thanks for the encouragement :) I took a little break but i will be back soon :D
How has it been since you upgraded?
@tourinojacks5844 been great she runs smooth sometimes I might have to drop to 1/4 quality for playback but that's if the video is 45+ minutes or I'm doing alot with graphics exports within 5 to 10 minutes everytime as well
@@wheeliehutjr Cool beans. I actually have a 2015 MacBook Pro Core i5 2.4 GHZ 1 TB SSD with 16GB and I need to either buy a brand new laptop, or expand the RAM on this one. Mine works great until I open the Adobe software to use Photoshop or Premier Pro, then I am screwed after about 30 minutes of usage and other windows open. Hoping 32GB or 64GB does the trick. Your thoughts? How old is your computer may I ask? Similar specs as mine or different?
@tourinojacks5844 I'm on a core i5 processor too & had 16gb before doing the ram pretty much fixed all of my issues but I also have a dedicated Nvidia 1660TI gpu which is good for editing & stuff like that I'd think it's worth a shot if you can find the ram under 200 for a 64gb everyone says 32gb is all that's needed for editing I went 64gb just for the extra wiggle room plus it wasn't much more to do so I'd give it a try before buying a whole new setup spending atleast 1k+ for a capable computer
Useful video. Thanks!
Thank you very much!
Most videos about the amount of ram needed for video editing suggest up to 32GB.
I have 32GB installed in my system, but very usually reach full workload. I have thougt about upgrading to 64GB and now-ts clear, that I will do it soon :)
Glad i could help :) yes ram can very quickly end up being the bottle neck for performance.
In a couple years you might need 128gb.. time flies
@@Vordigon1 When you have a lot of CPU threads and have an addiction to keeping them busy, you do that as soon as you can afford it without missing the cost for anything else.
That's the thing. you can't usually have maxed out RAM or Swap usage or high pressure though the good indicator will be hiccups of the system.
Exactly!
great video
But I would like your opinion.
I'm about to buy a used macbook pro. And find 2 models that fit in my pocket.
Both are from mid-2019 with the same processor, with the same 8gb 5500 video card model.
But one comes with 64gb of ram and 512 of ssd while the other 32gb of ram with 2tb of ssd.
Which should I choose?
I want it for video editing, running 4 or 5 vms and playing at leisure.
Thanks
I have 48GB, 2x16 and 2x8, Evo Potenza 3000ghz, worth going for 64GB ? or lets say, 32GB of 3600mhz ?
I got after effects to use 105GB out of my 128gb on one client project. Rendered time was awesome 👌.
oh wow. well then im glad you went with 128 haha. i am assuming things would have slowed down significantly for u if you had less
Well-done. I'm doing 1080p editing on a laptop with 12 gigs memory. I'm thinking if I do a build I will want to put in 32 gb DDR4 minimum to do editing and anything else. (I don't game)
8gb ram here.. barely does a thing lol
Thanks for showing these side by side
Haha I used to have 8 gb myself. It’s definitely a nice upgrade. are you on an iMac or MacBook?
T use Lightroom on a well-equipped machine I find forty gigabytes a good figure for usage ...
I was using a laptop with 8gb DDR4 RAM, i7 8550U and onboard graphics and an m.2 SSD to do some video editing, Fusion 360, Realsteady GO. It didn't do too bad but it did take Realsteady about an hour or more to render a 3 minute 2.7k video I upgraded to an i7 12700H processor, 3050 ti 4gb video but still only have 4gn of DDR4 RAM. I just ordered 32gb of DDR4 so I should be set. I think? I hope!
Did you ever upgrade your RAM? If so, what did you add and how has it been afterwards? Please do tell?
@@tourinojacks5844 I went from 4gb to 32gb of ram. It has been working fine for me.
are you doing 4K work on Final Cut on this video?
128 GB of ram is the bare minimum for running Chrome with 10 tabs open.
hahaha it sure would seem that way sometimes.
NO. I have about 30 tabs open at once with 4gb ram on an old lenovo. also use 4gb ram for music production.
@@butterflymoon6368 And you dont find that things slow down for you?
@@butterflymoon6368 now way, 4gb is far from enough. You need to download more ram dude 😒
8 gb macbook pro. not nearly enough :( i always thought so but now i really know.
Lol I am sorry! But now you know for next time :)
Personally use 64 GB of RAM. Initially started with 32GB but found my video editor of the day was running slow, and suffered delays with Lightroom and Photoshop. Now works a breeze...
Then it was a good choice then. i've personally always gone for 64 as a default.
I got MacBook Pro 8GB (base model) and when I run Lightroom and photoshop…damn that cvnt is so slow 😂
Great video thank you !!!
no problem :) and thank you for being the first to comment in 8 months! haha.
Sorry to bother you with a question, but i recently got monetized and i was just curious if you were served ads?
@@TymekStolarz no problem I did but the little adds down your video .. not actual adds that come between ur video playing
Okay thank you for the info, i appreciate it :) i hope you have a great day.
@@TymekStolarz anytime thank you sir! Have a great day also 🤙🏼
good lord - what a memory hog Lightroom Classic turns out to be! My current (old PC) has 64 GByte just for Photoshop which I only need for extremely large PSD files with a lot of layers in them (e.g. resulting from @adobecreate's watercolor artist action when applied to high-MP images.).
yea all the editing programs can really take a huge chunk. video and photo editing can really be the worst for memory.
i always use 128GB to max out my MB.
How much storage space do you have for each?
for both my macs 2 tb. my old mac had a mix of 128 gb SSD and 2 tb HDD, my new mac has 2tb full SSD, but when i am fully loading all my memory, i might as well be on a potato, everything is so slow. its crazy how much faster RAM is then even SSD's
Would like to see an update with DDR5...I assume you don't need as much RAM as DDR4
i personally havent done a lot of research into DDR5 so i cant unfortunately comment on it
DDR5 just brings higher speed.
I need all the ram. Give me these rams
👍🏻
Thanks Kyla. I appreciate you taking the time to watch, I hope you have a good day :)
Meanwhile in 2023, 64GB is really where it's at.
32 gb for lightroom
thats what you found the sweet spot to be?
By the way, your video is really important to new Apple Mac Studio buyers, because RAM is not upgradeable, and increasing RAM to either Max or Ultra models delays delivery until early June. After watching your video I am content to wait, since I really want increased RAM.
I think the only Caveat to that is how different the Ram is on an m1 vs. A traditional intel motherboard. I haven’t extensively Ram tests for the new generation. But I keep seeing others say that Ram on the m1 is twice as efficient as intel. So 32 gb Ram on m1 is like 64 gb on intel. I ran a lot of tests in Final Cut Pro between the m1 pro and m1 max ( m1 max double GPU cores and RAM at 32 for each) and there was very little difference between the two. I wasn’t specifically comparing Ram but I was expecting a lot different results.
I bought a 4gb computer and it was freezing for hours at a time. Way to small as I cant run photoshop and lightroom without it crashing and was goping to be able to run the program from external 1tb drives . Will have to return and get at least 16gb
Yea 4gb of memory will be very slow. Im not even sure if running through external drives would help as i think it would still be using your computers Memory. when i turn my computer on its already using about 8 gb of ram.
background music makes it harder to hear you clearly
I would agree, this was one of my first videos i released. i removed music all together for my recent videos.
Today I measured my ram need to 256gb. Insane.
Hahaha you need 256 gb? That is a lot lol. I think for 128 is too much for most people.
@@TymekStolarz I'm photostacking full frame images. One stack takes easy 40gb ram, so I have to restart the pc almost each photo done. With 256 I can do a couple with no crash. The amount of ram needed is insane
it is why i do really hate when people think i have far too much memory. trust me as time passes by application become hungrier and hungrier.
haha exactly. there are times where i could use 128 haha
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Wow MacOS truly is awful at handling RAM
Haha yes, there are definitely times it’s crappy. I think the m1 works a little better though
If you’re saying that because there seems to be a low amount of free memory, that might be an incorrect assumption. Apple follows the engineering mantra of “unused memory is wasted memory.” It’s an expensive resource related to performance, so you want to keep as much of it in use as you can as long as you aren’t starving other apps. When a lot of memory is already used when nothing is going on, those are often processes that are pre-allocating memory into purgeable caches to optimize performance during the session, and that is a good use of memory.
A lot of people have commented on how there are tasks that cannot be handled efficiently under 8GB memory on Intel, but an Apple Silicon Mac with 8GB can handle the same tasks surprisingly smoothly. And Apple Silicon Unified Memory is a better way to share memory between OS and graphics hardware than Intel integrated graphics. So actually, the general feeling is that macOS manages memory quite well.
Mac 🤦. u knw most people out if US don't use it.