Back in 1970, I went to work at a tile company in L. A., learned to float my own mud walls, ceilings, floors and counter tops. This "peel and stick today is just a reason to replace two to five years. We would cut the bath sub floor out, place 1x2s one and a half inch below top of floor joists. (the old guys would axe off top of joists into upside dowe vee), install 15 lb tarpaper, then stucco/chicken wire with furring nails. Set floor level thickness below hall floor. Float out bath floor with - pact. Day two dry-pack mud. I have actually done dryrot under bath floor by jacking entire tile and mud floor up to base shoe level and reframed entire bath subfloor. Try that with todays material. The senior tile setter in 1970 still soaked tile in square tub, (as an apprentice, I had to do this), he set tile in grout, horizontal space using string from a large ball of string. I did a lot of tearouts, mixed mud in mud box on the ground, hauled mud in rubber pails. Three yrs ltr, journeyman setter and I pulled up to a job in Beverly Hills, he said, "you're doing the tile in this kitchen today", My first, turned out good. During apprenticeshop I worked with tilesetters plasterers and carpenter. That way I understood all techniques. Hawk and trowel mudboard.
What peel and stick are you referring to? I also came up old school and in a mud box and carried in full five gallon buckets. I would break all the other helpers haha.
Thank you! Yea the mag float pulls too much moisture to the surface when doing deck mud imo. It also doesn’t “cut” very well like the woody does. You made a good move, much easier with the wood float.
Love watching how people in different countries do things, i screed similar in Australia but we don’t use these floor wastes so we do boarders first as we may be restricted to shower angle heights and or the bathroom door height
What's the approximate working time for this deck mud before it becomes too difficult to tamper with? I assume one should work in sections before mixing the next bag?
Great vid! Typically what surface you building these off of? These were big in the 90’s in uk now not so much but I do prefer these ways they were pretty much fail safe. However now we build testing the limits of timbers and engineered joist systems that simply do not compare
I’ve seen you guys do this a lot, in CA where there is more movement isn’t there a higher risk or cracking? Would those membrane systems that provide little give be better?
Been following you on Facebook for a while now, just moved over to finding you here on YT. Love your work, have always done tile work? Is that how you broke out when you first started working?
@@Eylandertilesame here. But then I mist the finished pack with a spray bottle before I smooth it. I found it helps hold the surface from having bits of loose sand.
Good stuff I just did one the boss gave me a chance to do it it came out good but the only thing is that I just seen your video but for the next one I’ll try out your method
We use an auger so it comes out pretty fluffy and mixes are consistent. But I like it on the dryer side a bit. Too wet and it’s hard to cut as it sorta moves. Just gets messy if too wet.
Quickrete from Home Depot. Way cheaper and better imo then most of the other brands out there. I get the same stuff at SD marble and tile and bedrosians as well.
I don’t think I’ll ever do this but man is it cool to watch. This is an art
Apprentice must watch video and you didnt ask for anyone to buy your course on tiling 👏👏👏👏
Like most handy man do in youtube i mean 😅😅😅
Back in 1970, I went to work at a tile company in L. A., learned to float my own mud walls, ceilings, floors and counter tops. This "peel and stick today is just a reason to replace two to five years. We would cut the bath sub floor out, place 1x2s one and a half inch below top of floor joists. (the old guys would axe off top of joists into upside dowe vee), install 15 lb tarpaper, then stucco/chicken wire with furring nails. Set floor level thickness below hall floor. Float out bath floor with - pact. Day two dry-pack mud. I have actually done dryrot under bath floor by jacking entire tile and mud floor up to base shoe level and reframed entire bath subfloor. Try that with todays material. The senior tile setter in 1970 still soaked tile in square tub, (as an apprentice, I had to do this), he set tile in grout, horizontal space using string from a large ball of string. I did a lot of tearouts, mixed mud in mud box on the ground, hauled mud in rubber pails. Three yrs ltr, journeyman setter and I pulled up to a job in Beverly Hills, he said, "you're doing the tile in this kitchen today", My first, turned out good.
During apprenticeshop I worked with tilesetters plasterers and carpenter. That way I understood all techniques. Hawk and trowel mudboard.
What peel and stick are you referring to?
I also came up old school and in a mud box and carried in full five gallon buckets. I would break all the other helpers haha.
Used a mag for a long time, wood float has truly been a game changer. I’m claiming best shower pan video out there 🤙
I’m still on the magnesium game but maybe I’ll try to level up. 😊
Thank you! Yea the mag float pulls too much moisture to the surface when doing deck mud imo. It also doesn’t “cut” very well like the woody does. You made a good move, much easier with the wood float.
Only subscribed to make sure you don’t lack any haters!
Thanks for explaining things as you go! Really appreciate that 🤙🏻
Love watching how people in different countries do things, i screed similar in Australia but we don’t use these floor wastes so we do boarders first as we may be restricted to shower angle heights and or the bathroom door height
I like watching your videos at night before bed
What's the approximate working time for this deck mud before it becomes too difficult to tamper with? I assume one should work in sections before mixing the next bag?
Great vid! Typically what surface you building these off of? These were big in the 90’s in uk now not so much but I do prefer these ways they were pretty much fail safe. However now we build testing the limits of timbers and engineered joist systems that simply do not compare
Very helpful -- thank you!!
You're welcome!
This makes me harder than that packed concrete. Great work
That’s really really hard 😳
That’s awesome!! But how do you compensate for the thickness of the mud?
Thanks for teaching us very helpful videos quality craftsmanship
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I’ve seen you guys do this a lot, in CA where there is more movement isn’t there a higher risk or cracking? Would those membrane systems that provide little give be better?
Hot mop weep holes are almost always clogged. Good video for new guys.
Been following you on Facebook for a while now, just moved over to finding you here on YT.
Love your work, have always done tile work? Is that how you broke out when you first started working?
Sick bro!
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Does the mud has to be dry like this???? Just wondering if is better this way or a little more wet????
It’s referred to as “dry pack” that sorta answers the question yea?
What kind of deck mud do you use?
I think they prefer to be called "little trowels" 😊
MY MAN!
This is exactly how i do my mud pans
Very informative!! Most def learned something!. Whats your water ratio per 80lb bag of mud?
We go a little less than the bag states as I like it on the dryer side
@@Eylandertilesame here. But then I mist the finished pack with a spray bottle before I smooth it. I found it helps hold the surface from having bits of loose sand.
Bro you're a boss man very educational
Thank you. Appreciate that
That was impressive
Will you show your mixing set up?
Sure.
Good vid bro
Thank you
Good stuff I just did one the boss gave me a chance to do it it came out good but the only thing is that I just seen your video but for the next one I’ll try out your method
Right on. Only gets easier the more ya do it.
@@Eylandertile thanks for your videos
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Man, you do great work but we need more hot daddy Jorts camera angles…
Haha I’m on it!!!
That Mud pan will always be saturated with water it’s how that system works water in water out.
Nice screedin
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What consistency do you like to make your deck mud?
We use an auger so it comes out pretty fluffy and mixes are consistent. But I like it on the dryer side a bit. Too wet and it’s hard to cut as it sorta moves. Just gets messy if too wet.
Need a thinset slurry underneath dry pack on a concrete slab
Cool. This is over hot mop.
Yikes Larry. No membrainz?
@@Eylandertile ah. Looks like concrete
@@jessevennard2640 what?
Fuckin stud
Is there a brand of Deck Mud you prefer?
X2
Quickrete from Home Depot. Way cheaper and better imo then most of the other brands out there. I get the same stuff at SD marble and tile and bedrosians as well.
Sand topping mix right?@@Eylandertile
good job grandpa !! 👍🏼🙋🏾♂️
Money
Das it
Doesnt that shit burn ur hands?