This Plane Is Literal A$$ - Tornado IDS ASSTA1 - War Thunder

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @TheEuropeanCanadian
    @TheEuropeanCanadian  24 дня назад +27

    Sometimes you realize that a part of your life was wasted for whatever reason. Spading this thing was my realization. What a waste of time.

    • @M4tth3w1986
      @M4tth3w1986 24 дня назад

      just stream it and make a youtube video on it, then atleast its content and money for you! oh wait..

    • @user-dv1hm5rq7q
      @user-dv1hm5rq7q 24 дня назад +1

      I have it, It’s not the greatest CAS but i think it’s very fun to fly with. I find the Tornado ASSTA1 More fun to fly with than the F111 , Mostly because of it’s speed. The F111 Usually takes 5 minutes to achieve Mach 1. The Tornado is reasonably fast and has WAY better energy retention. It can get a kill or 2 If your enemy is stupid (11.0 matchmaker primarily is bottom-tier). It can dogfight the average F4S player or even MiG-23 when on low fuel. It’s decent enough for CAS and it get’s A TON of countermeasures & HD thermals. I didn’t enjoy ARB much with the tornado but i’m glad i own it since i just love how it looks.

  • @dipchit_dino6587
    @dipchit_dino6587 24 дня назад +57

    J35xs is also overtiered, it faces the f-14a when it only has 12 countermeasures and no rwr

    • @qvad8078
      @qvad8078 24 дня назад +7

      mig-23m also has 12 flares and its rwr is pretty useless

    • @Luisasophie163
      @Luisasophie163 24 дня назад +11

      not the j35 is overtiered the f14 is massively undertiered

    • @Anthony1102www
      @Anthony1102www 24 дня назад +5

      and gaijin nerf its performence for god sake "overperforming"

    • @jojomaster7675
      @jojomaster7675 24 дня назад +1

      @@Anthony1102www Tbh, it was overperforming back when it was 10.7.

    • @itsjustmenova
      @itsjustmenova 24 дня назад +1

      @@qvad8078but still has an RWR. Without one at all you just have to assume you’ve got a pheonix on its way because you have no idea whether that’s true or not

  • @Kanonenwind
    @Kanonenwind 24 дня назад +31

    If they keep the Tornado at 11.7, they really should give it the 9L/I it carries irl.
    The Jaguar IS has Magic 2s, so IRCCM missiles at that BR range are nothing new and probably still would only change the Tornado from "sitting duck" to "pay a bit of attention when shooting it down"

    • @elvis86126
      @elvis86126 23 дня назад +3

      It should not be at 11.7 at all

    • @headshothunt3r414
      @headshothunt3r414 23 дня назад

      shouldnt it get IRIS-Ts?

    • @elvis86126
      @elvis86126 23 дня назад

      It should get the AIM-120 to stay on this BR for sure. with only two 9L its not fair at all 11.7

    • @Kanonenwind
      @Kanonenwind 23 дня назад

      God no, the Harrier is already BS with its AMRAAMs, we don't need them at an even lower BR. I don't think the IDS even has the necessary equipment to launch them, only the ECS has in German service.
      And I'm also against giving it the IRIS-T. The ASSTA1 upgrade was done before the IRIS-T finished development, so it makes more sense to add a later version with them, plus IRIS-T would turn this into a 10.0 A-10 situation on crack! Imagine playing a 10.7 plane against an unflareable thrust vectoring missile.

    • @allenliu8820
      @allenliu8820 15 дней назад

      @@elvis86126 only the adv gets aim 120's
      and the germans never bought any of them because US airpower made it so that they just needed to focus on killing tanks
      which the tornado does a great job at when equipped with brimestone missiles

  • @Tanne_przypal
    @Tanne_przypal 24 дня назад +61

    tornado ids slander will not be tolerated mister

    • @TheEuropeanCanadian
      @TheEuropeanCanadian  24 дня назад +28

      Well may be it should be better then

    • @Tanne_przypal
      @Tanne_przypal 24 дня назад +14

      @@TheEuropeanCanadian its trying the best it can ok : (

    • @jacksont2040
      @jacksont2040 24 дня назад +6

      @@TheEuropeanCanadian Better watch out for the Tornado gang!

    • @vrause7956
      @vrause7956 20 дней назад

      Id say the br increase due to guided munitions is mostly due to sim

  • @ChederCheese-i3y
    @ChederCheese-i3y 24 дня назад +15

    tornado is my baby!

  • @Lizardry90210
    @Lizardry90210 24 дня назад +6

    Marine one has Kormorans, but can't launch in tank or air battles because there are no targets it can lock.

    • @lukah9430
      @lukah9430 24 дня назад +1

      Because its an anti-ship missel?!

    • @-Reliaks-
      @-Reliaks- 24 дня назад +4

      the kormorans also go straight for the very tippy top of your target and deal zero damage to it

    • @kommandantkillcode
      @kommandantkillcode 24 дня назад +2

      @@-Reliaks-Gaijin said they'd fix the targeting on it, but somehow they only fixed he targeting on Heli and IFV FnF missiles, and not the Kormorans. I've been having a decent time with the Marinefliegar in Air RB anyway though just flying it as a dogfighter lol. My biggest problem has been how bad the Aim-9Ls are if anyone is paying any attention, but other than that, the flight performance is actually good enough to create some opportunities for kills, 1v1s, or set ups for my teammates.

    • @Lizardry90210
      @Lizardry90210 24 дня назад +1

      @@-Reliaks- yep, on bug tracker they said that they have no plans fixing it anytime soon.

    • @Rayjacker
      @Rayjacker 23 дня назад

      @@lukah9430 But naval stops at 7.0 so you can never use the anti-ship missiles to shoot down player ships, meaning that the entire purpose of the Kormoran in WT is to groundpound AI.

  • @logicmaster756
    @logicmaster756 24 дня назад +6

    The tornado part makes kills fly away from me

  • @michaeld.uchiha9084
    @michaeld.uchiha9084 23 дня назад +2

    Well its a Fighter bomber, ECM Fighter or a Recon plane.
    Tornado was not build for dogfights.
    Not the plane is the problem the Game and the players are the problem.
    In ground RB is where the Tornado shines.

    • @allenliu8820
      @allenliu8820 15 дней назад

      ground rb is where they shine, but only for the tornadoes that have pgm's instead of laser guided bombs
      and that is even if u get close enough where you can drop them because pansirs are always around
      it is gaijin's fault for not adding brimestone missiles which are essentially hellfires, but for planes, but they have way more range
      brimstones have the ability to out range the pansir which is why it ain't added to the game
      smoke will not stop the missile because it has an active radar homing seeker
      even if they add the laser guided version, it being able to out range the pansir is something that gaijin does not want
      not to mention the more modern variants like the gr 4 can carry 24
      and older versions only carrying like 12-18

  • @obamagaming6410
    @obamagaming6410 19 дней назад

    The Tornado in WT has literally no merit other than looking extremely cool (which is why I bought the premium one a few days ago when it was on sale lmao). It is completely useless in air-to-air because it is so sluggish and unmaneuverable that you can basically J out when you see smoke in the air or get someone on your six (sure it gets good countermeasures but they're useless if you can't turn). It is also useless as a bomber because Phantoms, Drakens and Kfirs can outrun you to the enemy bases (and are way more survivable against enemy fighters after dropping their ordnance), which leaves you to bomb a few AI ground units which are barely worth the points you're expending on them (that is if you're still alive by that point). The only way to survive long enough to get into the enemy half of the map where targets are is to fly at treetop height to confuse the enemies' radar locks, which leads to you crashing all the time because it's a literal flying brick (I've crashed more in this plane in the last couple of days than with any other plane combined in my 1500 hours)

  • @OtavioAguiar7
    @OtavioAguiar7 23 дня назад +1

    I get a tornado premium, 80% my matchs is 12.0 and 12.3

  • @Tiyrant
    @Tiyrant 23 дня назад

    I don't understand why the other tornados are at 11.3 either. They have pretty much the same capabilities and play style of the A-5C, and that sits at 10.3.

  • @KING_LIRI1
    @KING_LIRI1 23 дня назад

    Its good for simulator battles where the targeting pod which it gets as well as the guided munitions are good for striking ground targets. Kormorans aren't really that useful either when you have this thing, especially since the latest BR Brackets in SIM rooms have been really good for germany.

  • @Mold69
    @Mold69 23 дня назад +1

    I think it’s funny cas but a full team of these in air rb is criminal

  • @theroach2204
    @theroach2204 23 дня назад +1

    Anything past 9.7 air at this point is just cancer.
    It’s either F-14 spam at 11.0 - 12.0
    Or F-15 Spam at 13.0 +

  • @user-qv6gp4ux1l
    @user-qv6gp4ux1l 24 дня назад +2

    ngl the jas35xs draken at 11.3 is to kind a$$ .

  • @malakov5
    @malakov5 23 дня назад

    I actually consumed my German Tornado IDS MFG coupon to grind the event. Kind of wish it were 11.0 instead of 11.3 but the mfg is rank 8 for whatever reason. Chinese A5C is a much more consistent grinder. Magic 1s at 10.3 plus you are mig19 speed. Get half a base plus 1 or 2 straggler A10’s is way more fun than being BVR’d

  • @7ThePrimagen
    @7ThePrimagen 23 дня назад

    the only jet germany gets with guided bombs I'm pretty sure
    we gotta work with what we got
    only things it has going for it is
    funny jet,
    cool paintjob
    and kvochur bell
    and thats about it

  • @SilentVoid_
    @SilentVoid_ 22 дня назад

    11.0 germany feels very rough for me, for example, the F4F and F-104 in the german tree have 4 IR missiles with 20G pull and can only be fired from behind enemies while other jets in that br keep dumping radar missiles or better IR missiles on me. it really feels like 11.0 is unplayable for me with the f4f and f104

  • @TheBritishBat
    @TheBritishBat 22 дня назад

    With no radar missiles, why it’s at this br makes no bloody sense

  • @jonobonnowonno1
    @jonobonnowonno1 24 дня назад

    its fast but but not fast enough sometimes, when ever i am chased by an f5 or a mig which u will see all the time; you cant out turn cant outrun and most of the time cant shake off

  • @paulb359
    @paulb359 23 дня назад

    Would you say the GR1 has the same issue, being overtiered because of weapons it will never use in Air RB?

  • @dragondaan8668
    @dragondaan8668 24 дня назад +3

    1:35 man that MIG23 pilot is garbage. How do you lose a dogfight with a torando!!

    • @kommandantkillcode
      @kommandantkillcode 24 дня назад

      In a rolling scissor, no clue, but in a rate-fight, the Tornado beats the MiG-23ML's rate now after the MiG's nerfs.

    • @yoesoef4902
      @yoesoef4902 23 дня назад

      Mig23 already nerfed bro

    • @dragondaan8668
      @dragondaan8668 23 дня назад

      @@yoesoef4902 Yeah its has been nerfed but its still wayyyyyy better than a tornado

  • @Shaboomquisa
    @Shaboomquisa 24 дня назад

    its really the only thing I can use in top tier ground rb for cas. the grind for this thing was absolute cancer. at least I got the mig29g and that's one of my fun jets to fly

  • @goldi1928
    @goldi1928 24 дня назад +1

    Hey can u show your graphics settings?

  • @rt-eden8392
    @rt-eden8392 23 дня назад

    The Tornado is many things. But definitely not "good at turning"

  • @maxenders1131
    @maxenders1131 23 дня назад

    no I'm not getting first to the Base not even on 11.3 with the other Tornados because every single round there are always F4's and F104's that are twice as farst as you and steal everthing

  • @riccardopozzoni8821
    @riccardopozzoni8821 24 дня назад +1

    What is the point of the Tornado IDS WTD1 (premium with same BR) when this exist?
    It hasn't guide ammunition, same BR, same bomb truck
    Only for credits and grinding like a no brainer?
    It was on sale in these days

  • @the_machine966
    @the_machine966 24 дня назад

    Chinese F-104G has similar issues. If we compare it to F-104J, both have same performance (like flight model etc.) except F-104G has less missiles and 0.4 br higher, which doesnt make sense. You literally flying worse version of F-104j with less missiles and at higher br

  • @albedo826
    @albedo826 24 дня назад

    wait but all other IDS tornado's (Italian IDS, Germ. IDS, British Gr.1) have access to guided munitions too??? The Gr.1 even gets the PGM 500/2000? Why is this O N E tornado at a higher Br due to ordinance that A L L the other tornado's get??

  • @w.dgaming1060
    @w.dgaming1060 23 дня назад

    Try the 105 it’s hard with no flair’s and faves all aspect aams

  • @Kettleman1.0
    @Kettleman1.0 24 дня назад

    This is one of many examples of needing seperate brs for ground and air

    • @machinech183
      @machinech183 24 дня назад

      That's already a thing just not widely implemented. Example: A-4E 8.7 air, 9.3 ground.

  • @lionblocks
    @lionblocks 24 дня назад +1

    I bought it and i have no problem with it 😅

  • @donetski7324
    @donetski7324 24 дня назад

    I really like the super etendard

  • @Ziflin
    @Ziflin 24 дня назад

    Yeah I got the GR1 during this event, decided to spade it, absolute shithouse. 😭was not fun at all

  • @kingofpoland88
    @kingofpoland88 22 дня назад

    The Tornados should be 11.0

  • @Haaaaaze_l
    @Haaaaaze_l 24 дня назад

    Just started the stock grind on the tornado f3 late, it looks like tornados struggle at all br's

  • @monke2676
    @monke2676 24 дня назад

    graphic settings? them burners look incredible

  • @Jayden_o777
    @Jayden_o777 23 дня назад

    Nah, The Tornado IDS ASSTA1 is clearly the best plane. There is totally nothing wrong with it. 🤣

  • @bradmain8577
    @bradmain8577 24 дня назад

    ThAt skin is absolute fire though

  • @theactual-swe9189
    @theactual-swe9189 24 дня назад

    i stopped playing the tornado ASSTA because of the br its at. But ill try your method and see how it goes. Despite that i have the event tornado fully spaded already

  • @steffent.6477
    @steffent.6477 23 дня назад

    Are all german Tornados mediocre-bad ground-attackers? Just 2 AAMs is really not enough on the premium.

  • @Jerry0880
    @Jerry0880 24 дня назад +1

    What a great title

  • @GH7STY-
    @GH7STY- 24 дня назад

    what about the the Italian IDS

  • @Anthony1102www
    @Anthony1102www 24 дня назад

    this plane is such frustrating for me to grind the parts of it.
    Super stupid GAIJIN

  • @RiflesGunner
    @RiflesGunner 22 дня назад +1

    “This plane is ass”
    And so is this channel, I get at least 6 ground kills with it in GRB

  • @martinwellhoefer9159
    @martinwellhoefer9159 24 дня назад

    If im crazy enough to crew this, ill probably be crazy enough to crew the f4f kms. But seriously, this thing should get aim 9l/is.

  • @G3ntl3man95
    @G3ntl3man95 24 дня назад

    i love the tornado but in airbattle is weak in my opinion...

  • @mab2187
    @mab2187 24 дня назад

    Why take the 272kg TNT bombs, I take the 292kg bombs

  • @chronozeta
    @chronozeta 24 дня назад

    Guys do i cop the premium tornado for grind?

  • @Peter199204
    @Peter199204 23 дня назад

    High tier without weapons... Full game time wasting...

  • @janusz4156
    @janusz4156 24 дня назад

    50 years of Tornie in 2024.

  • @Elbereth_TV
    @Elbereth_TV 23 дня назад

    Tornado are fine

  • @WThunder231
    @WThunder231 24 дня назад

    It actually has a bit stronger engines

  • @cornyking5393
    @cornyking5393 24 дня назад

    Hey, at least it got 680 chaff right?

  • @legend2460
    @legend2460 24 дня назад

    Well that’s a bit sad to hear as this my current vehicle I’m researching for the Germans, maybe once I get the alpha jet spaded I’ll do something else lol

  • @hypoel1660
    @hypoel1660 24 дня назад +1

    Am grinding the 6th stage of the event with the sakeen in arcade battle since it's the fastest way

  • @johnroscoe2406
    @johnroscoe2406 24 дня назад +1

    Aircraft are balanced around Ground Forces mode*. Obviously.
    *With exceptions of course but as a general rule, especially as you go up in the BRs and capabilities and potentials of "any random fighter" markedly increase.

  • @Luther21
    @Luther21 24 дня назад

    🎉

  • @thybonheng1485
    @thybonheng1485 24 дня назад

    Not as bad as the su-22umk at 11.3 🤦

  • @gaijoobles8705
    @gaijoobles8705 24 дня назад +1

    Why is he saying the other tornados are 11.3 when the only one at that br is the German prem? I may have missed something but the Italian one is also 11.7 and 12.0, the British ones are 11.7, 12.0 and 13.3 please correct me if I missed the part where he said "German tornados" I have been half listening

    • @Kanonenwind
      @Kanonenwind 24 дня назад +2

      There's also the event Marineflieger at 11.3 that's the same as the premium with (useless) anti ship missiles

    • @TheEuropeanCanadian
      @TheEuropeanCanadian  24 дня назад

      There's an event one at 11.3 too

  • @malteborjesson1209
    @malteborjesson1209 24 дня назад

    I spaded the Tornado F3 today and it was a 10/10 experience super fun

    • @DJKenTuckyOfficial
      @DJKenTuckyOfficial 23 дня назад +1

      Well, the Tornado F.3 is a fighter with access to SARH missiles, the Tornado IDS is an attack aircraft with only 2 AIM-9L for self defense

  • @pieeater108
    @pieeater108 24 дня назад +1

    My only options for the F-14 event have been the SU-25 and the tornado IDS 💀 tornado does suck but you can make it work, enough to get bombs off and points at least

  • @itsjustmenova
    @itsjustmenova 24 дня назад +3

    All the German tornados are hot garbage

  • @ImJustVale
    @ImJustVale 24 дня назад

    At what settings do you play?

    • @TheEuropeanCanadian
      @TheEuropeanCanadian  24 дня назад

      Everything on max apart from ssao

    • @ImJustVale
      @ImJustVale 24 дня назад

      @@TheEuropeanCanadian Ah cool thank you and keep posting good content :D

  • @ricolives1166
    @ricolives1166 24 дня назад

    I have the WTD one. The premium. Ill be honest, I really like it. You almost never get a full up tier to fight F14s so thats great. You out run almost everything at 11.0 and even if you get lucky with a down tier to maybe 10.7 or 10.3. Now for the one you are talking about, its honestly weird as you said. Why would you use guided bombs in air lol.
    Edit: In air, you need 5 1k bombs to destroy a base. The Tornados can take 12 1ks. So obvious 2 bases and you have 2 left. Get a tank or go to a third base and drop those 2. Its simple. And fun.

  • @joesnyder8592
    @joesnyder8592 24 дня назад

    I am Alpharius.

  • @G3ntl3man95
    @G3ntl3man95 24 дня назад

    Add to tornado more armament….for example agm… to be competitive in ground battle…

    • @machinech183
      @machinech183 24 дня назад

      The biggest issue now rears it's head and people are seeing it more. Gaijin implemented these aircraft without half the things that made them good at what they did. Most of the issues for planes like the Tornado stem from being modeled with a nod to realism but put in unrealistic situations that they wouldn't be in while missing half their capabilities.

  • @GuffinMcGuffin
    @GuffinMcGuffin 23 дня назад

    Is sucks in Air RB. It sucks in Ground RB as well since there are Pantsir shit-1 bias machines.

  • @joshharris2793
    @joshharris2793 24 дня назад

    These things need extra kit that they had in real life, it’s trash that its ground radar is modeled but was removed so the Komorans couldn’t lock tanks…

    • @garyyoung3179
      @garyyoung3179 24 дня назад

      In reality a med-long range asm is never going to used against tanks even it if could somehow get and maintain a radar lock.

    • @machinech183
      @machinech183 24 дня назад

      @@garyyoung3179 It's a great thing video games link to reality is whatever we would like to code into it then isn't it?

    • @joshharris2793
      @joshharris2793 24 дня назад

      @@garyyoung3179 no but it’s useful for bigger targets like pantsirs and tors, aswell as the future where ecm equipment and anti rads will be present

    • @joshharris2793
      @joshharris2793 23 дня назад

      @@garyyoung3179 it had a hard target/anti tank mode irl, I’m just not sure how it worked