Treasures are a problem.

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • #battlecats #battlecatsandroid #mikomitama #funny #cat
    What are treasures?
    "Treasure is an important Stage Reward which may be obtained upon clearing one of the main story stages. Each stage has a Treasure named after a memento from the location, though standard icons are used instead of images. Each Treasure exists in up to 3 tiers, which are called Inferior, Normal, and Superior - their icons are colored bronze, silver and gold, respectively. Treasures are extremely important throughout the game and are recommended to collect all of them before continuing with the game.
    Completing a regional collection of Treasures gives the player permanent upgrades to many aspects of the game, some of which do not have a counterpart in the XP-purchasable upgrades. Examples include massively increased cat health or attack power, debuffs to Aliens, or improvements to certain abilities. The effect of the boost depends on the quality of the various Treasures in that collection. Obtaining all Superior Treasures in a chapter awards a massive amount of XP via Catnip Challenges, peaking at 5,000,000 for Cats of the Cosmos Chapter 3.
    Most activated Treasure effects are permanent for each player and carried through all stages; the effect then stacks additively with any other Treasure set effects already active or subsequently acquired. The only exception is the Mystery Mask, which affects one chapter's final boss but not the others.
    The Cat Unit and Alien enemy stats provided on this wiki are with all Treasures obtained, except when stated otherwise ("initial stats" are what a unit has at level 1 without any Treasures). Abilities, however, are always described without the Fruit Treasures' bonuses. "
    -Battle Cats Wiki (I did not write this)
    Source: battle-cats.fa...
    What is Battle Cats?
    The Battle Cats is a free-to-play tower defense video game developed and published by PONOS Corporation for iOS and Android, which was originally released in Japan under the name にゃんこ大戦争.
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Комментарии • 63

  • @alexcats57
    @alexcats57 2 месяца назад +20

    FINALLY someone talks about this, and I agree, The Treasure Grinding us really tedious, really Great video :)

  • @daleanh3279
    @daleanh3279 2 месяца назад +25

    The only thing that hold Battle Cats back.

    • @wl-o8197
      @wl-o8197 2 месяца назад

      Gacha

    • @TychoL
      @TychoL 2 месяца назад

      Energy

    • @wl-o8197
      @wl-o8197 2 месяца назад

      Grind

    • @Mr.GrayGuy
      @Mr.GrayGuy 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@wl-o8197thats the whole point of the game

    • @wl-o8197
      @wl-o8197 2 месяца назад

      @@Mr.GrayGuy Well I didn't like the fact that you have to play the same stage over and over again to progress so I quit

  • @laurentiuslancaster1657
    @laurentiuslancaster1657 2 месяца назад +3

    I can feel the grind again after opening a new JP account since I don't have much to do in my main EN account. At this point, with Battle Cats being over a decade old, I doubt PONOS would bother with the arduous task of treasure grinding. I wouldn’t be surprised if they opened up an Aku Realms chapter and gave us something like Relic or Aku Treasures to grind again.
    This is a shame since treasure grinding is such a vital task starting with Empire of Cats and turns away a lot of potential long-time players. However, I think it is also one of the reasons the community (at least those who stayed) developed a very well-made wiki over the years. This is among many reasons, such as non-checkable stats. I've been playing since 2015, so I've practically gotten used to PONOS' many wild decisions, and they're always smoking crack whether they come as good or bad.

  • @_darkmaple
    @_darkmaple 2 месяца назад +14

    small correction for the video:
    superior treasures don't have a 25% chance of showing up, the 25% chance is multiplicative of the treasure base chance of 35%, so in reality the chance of dropping a superior treasure is actually slightly less than 9%, meaning on average 10 stage replays
    even if you consider treasure festivals where treasure base chance is 70%, the chance is still only about 17-18%, which means around 5-6 replays to get superior treasures

    • @likesiggypop
      @likesiggypop 2 месяца назад +2

      well its 9% if no treasure is unlocked, if you already have inferior or normal then its much higher, on average i think 5 tries for superior in my experience

  • @solaris4105
    @solaris4105 2 месяца назад +6

    i remember having to clear ITF london 21 times for the superior treasure. good times.

  • @santinombd9
    @santinombd9 2 месяца назад +2

    I've been playing battle cats for nearly if not a year and i recently got into CoTC 3 and man i dont want to grind for treasures i completely agree with these solutions, i recently got into UL too and i still dont have CoTC 3 treasures even thinking that is the last chapter where you have to grind for treasures it doesnt motivate me and i think it wont motivate anyone, i hope ponos finds a solution for this, great video bro

  • @CyShards
    @CyShards 2 месяца назад +10

    why treasures are a problem.
    1: there not fun
    thx 4 whatching, comment like & subscribe

  • @Roveku1
    @Roveku1 2 месяца назад +2

    Grinding speedups from blitz stages just for this reason 💪

  • @FungallyInfectious
    @FungallyInfectious 2 месяца назад

    considering how they’re implementing optional ads for rewards to entice newer players maybe ponos can implement an option to watch an ad for a superior treasure after a victory like how they do with xp stages so there’s a few times a day where they can easily get treasures and can come back easier instead of dedicating large amounts of time for tedious grinding that will put off new players from playing the game when they hit a roadblock

  • @FlipaThirdy
    @FlipaThirdy 2 месяца назад +3

    Imagine Grinding A Very Hard Level, And When You Get The Treasure, It's Probably The Bronze One Which Sucks :/

    • @sboxes4021
      @sboxes4021 2 месяца назад

      Adding rarities to the treasures was so unessecary

  • @Nicky_Lesgooo
    @Nicky_Lesgooo 2 месяца назад +3

    Players be saying treasure grinding is hard but when will they realize Roblox games are 10x more grindy😭😭

    • @MerzDerIdiot
      @MerzDerIdiot 2 месяца назад

      Haha, funny. Have you ever heard of energy, ticket farming, 4 crowns. Thus roblox games are avaible all the time so R/wooosh.

    • @user-ke3jh5dp6x
      @user-ke3jh5dp6x 19 дней назад

      ​@@MerzDerIdiotitem asylum 500k emote and 250k emote:

  • @Someone-ll1rc
    @Someone-ll1rc 2 месяца назад

    Treasure grinding also consumes tons of energy, so another thing Ponos could change is reducing energy cost for stages you’ve completed in all chapters which offer treasures by 75%.

  • @Aura_BCP
    @Aura_BCP 2 месяца назад +3

    Whoever wants Traitless, Relic and Aku treasures needs to be put into a mental asylum

    • @BattleCats-eu4ic
      @BattleCats-eu4ic 2 месяца назад

      Exactly

    • @sparchamp2
      @sparchamp2 2 месяца назад +2

      Sol treasures, do I need to say more?

    • @sboxes4021
      @sboxes4021 2 месяца назад

      ⁠@@sparchamp2”Complete SoL subchapter 1 in 4 crowns to unlock Energy Drink”

  • @TJ-hg6op
    @TJ-hg6op 2 месяца назад

    For one, I don’t think there should be tiers of treasures. Just one treasure you get from each stage, no inferior or superior or whatever just treasure. And two, make it just guaranteed on the second completion of the level (still possible on first completion). Treasures are a cool way to boost the player from effort, but right now it’s far too grindy (along with being required for progression basically) and turning away new players.
    Another idea they could do if they want to keep the tiers is they could possibly make a random treasure guaranteed on the first completion. If you got inferior, you could complete it again to have a guaranteed chance to get a higher tier, if you get normal the next tier would be guaranteed superior. So at max you would have to complete each stage 3 times, but even that is a bit excessive, but better than the current system.

  • @TowelieGetsHigh
    @TowelieGetsHigh 2 месяца назад +1

    Treasures are the reason I only ever use one account now

    • @michaelpark7738
      @michaelpark7738 2 месяца назад +1

      treasures are wayyyy too grindy man

  • @kozirvru
    @kozirvru Месяц назад

    I left the game for a few years because I just couldn’t be assed to do ITF treasures RIGHT AFTER EOC

  • @zeldaandTwink
    @zeldaandTwink 2 месяца назад +1

    I had to defeat one stage 17 times to get a superior

  • @i_look_just_like_buddy_holly
    @i_look_just_like_buddy_holly 2 месяца назад

    i think they should make it so if you win a stage 3 times you get a guaranteed superior treasure so you dont have to beat a level like 15 times (that happens to me like once per chapter even when its a treasure festival)

  • @First_Drifter
    @First_Drifter 2 месяца назад +2

    Im currently a veteran battle cats player that has beaten all empire of cats i just want to know does cats of the cosmos have treasures

    • @rapidtomato3955
      @rapidtomato3955  2 месяца назад

      @@First_Drifter yes, it does, and so does unto the future

  • @augustearingo6988
    @augustearingo6988 2 месяца назад

    Im trying to beat the whole Empire of cat chapter using no 100percent tresures

  • @Anomipre
    @Anomipre 2 месяца назад

    I think the devs really need to fix this Problem...

  • @MishaXGallagher
    @MishaXGallagher 2 месяца назад

    I would have another account if treasures wasn't 40 percent of early game

  • @classroomunsub8677
    @classroomunsub8677 2 месяца назад

    If only…

  • @johniannuzzo5296
    @johniannuzzo5296 2 месяца назад +2

    gold cpu + treasure radar for most of cotc. The levels are too annoying to replay.

    • @GorillaFan_32
      @GorillaFan_32 2 месяца назад

      its really fun for me (i dont have surfer tho 😭)

    • @bettrfastrstrongr1708
      @bettrfastrstrongr1708 2 месяца назад

      ​@@GorillaFan_32u in conclusion and don't got surfer😭😭😭 I feel so bad

    • @johniannuzzo5296
      @johniannuzzo5296 2 месяца назад

      @@GorillaFan_32 the hardest levels you can't use him anyways. Like aguham.

    • @GorillaFan_32
      @GorillaFan_32 2 месяца назад

      @@johniannuzzo5296 i made an alt account on another device and i got surfer cat as my first super rare on that onr

  • @BattleCats-qg1cq
    @BattleCats-qg1cq 2 месяца назад

    Treasures are too much for the average player, remove them ponos

  • @ShishilanPasalan-tk8ns
    @ShishilanPasalan-tk8ns 2 месяца назад

    skibibi

  • @severus3625
    @severus3625 2 месяца назад

    Coc anf itf boring af, but it never taken me more then like 2 hours to complete full chapter 🤷‍♂️

  • @Cataclysm00
    @Cataclysm00 2 месяца назад

    Lmao yall are years way to late with this. They literally run many energy half cost and treasure drop increase. Get to grinding everyone lmao that’s how many games we’re about a decade ago or more, now everyone wants certain games to change their backbone nah grind them treasures out💀suffer like everyone else 🤣

    • @rapidtomato3955
      @rapidtomato3955  2 месяца назад

      @@Cataclysm00 but imagine how many players this game would have if treasures didn’t exist

    • @imgonnacry8516
      @imgonnacry8516 2 месяца назад

      ​@@rapidtomato3955 massive gatekeep can be good and bad

  • @legomaeggo1031
    @legomaeggo1031 2 месяца назад

    I disagree.