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Hey all, this was originally just going to be a four-minute PSA telling people to vote, but I couldn’t stop thinking about catgirls calling me a neoliberal hack, so I started having imaginary arguments with the imaginary catgirls and then I realized fuck it, that’s a video.
It’s a little under-produced by this channel’s recent standards because I had to rush to get it out before the election. I’m also in the middle of producing a much more ambitious video which I’ll get back to work on now!
Getting this message out quickly is important, though.
We appreciate you!!!
This was an important message, and it didn't come across as rushed. Thank you for posting!
Vote, if for nothing else but to trigger the chuds.
Justice part 2?
“Biden’s not my boy... but” seems to be Biden’s unofficial campaign slogan at this point.
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Yup. Biden sucks if you’re a leftist. But personally I’d vote for my left nut before I’d ever vote for trump. But just the left nut, the right one’s a douche. Not his fault, seems everyone on the right defaults to the douchie category.
@@Ron_DeForest I laughed. And then I remembered that Biblical thing about if your eye offends you, pluck it out...
@@Ron_DeForest So vote third party and help them get automated ballot access. Don't vote for the guy that literally packed his transition team with people from the Bush Jr Administration and who's "climate change expert" literally is on the chair of a Natural Gas company.
@@Ron_DeForest Honestly, Biden even sucks if you're just a progressive, given what he's said and (more importantly) done politically in the past. But when you get a choice between getting the flu and getting the black plague, well...
"I don't expect Trump to go quietly"
*(Morgan Freeman narrating)*
Indeed he didn't.
His ego wont allow it.
It was insane 😂
@@lasofi5510 It was honestly a lot saner than I thought it would be. We're in the good timeline. For now.
He did tho.
@@slicedtoad "We're in the good timeline."
- Economic collapse
- Food supply shutting down
- Worker shortage
- Afghanistan taken over by Taliban
But hey no orange man bad tweets right
"80% of tweets come from 2% of Americans" why did I breathe the BIGGEST sigh of relief though
Because you realize that privileged white kids that won’t vote because the revolution isn’t happening don’t actually represent Americans as a whole. That’s enough to let the biggest sigh of relief.
Bc Twitter is scary in a lot of ways that Instagram, youtube, and many other social media platforms just aren't (as much). It's irresponsible people screeching at each other to "be more responsible"
Twitter is filled with a bunch of regressive radical leftist that scare people away from their ideology.
Isn't it a funny little thing that most people using the internet habituate outside the US while consuming mainly US content. Such oligarchy. I'm not exactly relieved.
Same people who think the George Floyd settlement was a good idea. The rest just want to stay here.
“CLOSER TO A VIOLENT UPRISING THAN WE’VE EVER BEEN BEFORE” that aged very well
Thanks I was looking for other people who were here after seeing the maga mob
I feel like we can come back to this videos for years to come and even more things will have aged like fine wine, unfortunately.
I searched up republicans’ views on this thinking,” How could they possibly defend this?” But they were blaming the police instead for letting the mob in.
Or the mention of a guillotine 6:42
@@dread6295 Or blaming the riot on antifa somehow...? Anything to avoid facing that the voted for an authoritarian loser, I guess
I'm an anarchist. I'm also a poll worker. No contradiction. Why? HARM REDUCTION.
People first, political philosophy second.
PS My daughter wants to be Tabby when she grows up WHAT HAVE YOU WROUGHT NATALIE
@@JadeStone00 If you see votes for trump will you try to erase them?
Who will join this communist revolution if they show they do not care about people suffering?
Your anarchist revolution sounds better. ;-)
@Nick Fanchette Did I ask you?
@@thatsnotagoodidea username checks out
"I'm met antifa, they're a furry" is the new i met god, she's a woman.
thomas jefferson miku binder intensifies
@@notscarlet8321 every time I forget about Miku binder Thomas Jefferson one ya’ll has to remind me again 😭😭
#ContraPointsforPresident
Wasn't it "I met god, she's black"?
@@felight5700 yeah that's the famous t-shirt one but I've heard both
"Antifa isnt scary. Antifa is Ryan and his transgender anarchist friends"
I have been attacked.
Well my homeland's antifa movement has been historically very strong and militant so I cannot relate. We are kinda considered to be terrorists even 😂. 15 years ago, around the wake of the great recession, most major cities became the theatre of hardcore rioting caused by the murder of a 15 year old boy by a cop. Sadly the movement has gone pretty dormant ever since, even though our neolib government keeps making things worse for everyday people (who keep voting for them. We Europeans don't get enough credit for our stupidity, even though it's nothing compared to the everyday American's political thought who thinks Bernie's radical.), has wiretapped some opposing politicians Nixon-style, prices have skyrocketed on everything (which might be a worldwide trend, but my country fares the worst in all of Europe) and last year saw the worst railway disaster in the country's history, with 57 people dead. If that's not a lot to protest for, I don't know what is. Not to mention that they legalised gay marriage just to distract everyone from the disaster. Because when everything is going to shit, the only thing I'm thinking about is when am I, a queer man, going to marry the man of my dreams...
“If I have to crawl off the god*amn floor on the morning of November 4th…
…pick up the phone to find out Caligula Jackson is president for life…
…I will chew my way through the bathroom tile, and I will not stop until I reach the gates of hell.”
Is probably my most favourite opening monologue I’ve ever heard.
I do come back to this video just for this monologue
Yes! That exact line has played in my brain often.
And how right before that, she picks up the iced coffee, tries to sip and the distraught sigh. Her delivery is absolutely brilliant.
I wish people would stop thinking that revolutions are reset buttons. Governments are not routers. You can't fix them by unplugging and plugging them back in.
You're expecting too much thought from teens who never worked a day in their lives
This is an underrated comment. A revolution in a country with fascist tendencies will be a fascist revolution. Hate to break it to you, but the Fascists here in america are waaaaaay closer to revolution than we are.
I needed to hear this! Thanks
I always love imagining what revolutionists imagine their revolution to look like. 10,000 people standing outside the Whitehouse while a black single mother drags Trump out by his wig? Lol our military is the most powerful in the world, they would firebomb DC and burn it to the ground (after getting all politicians into bunkers) before they would allow that to happen. It's not a reset button, it's throwing your router into the street and letting it get hit by a car and then trying to jerry-rig a new router out of a ham radio and a laptop from 1998
Okay, I agree. But like a good IT guy...we should try all the things. Voting is low cost. Also if someone sees a reset button on the us government I say we press it
I can’t believe Natalie literally invented voting.
democracy was born today
Truly she is Solon born again
She just abolished bernie or bust, amazin
@@martingaggero8462 have you ever heard of Alden's number?
@@cg1906 Of course, i am doing a phd related to that number.
"when the far right talks about violence and overthrowing the government, they actually mean it." that aged well.
reality be like "I can do both"
Watching this on the night after the far right stormed the capitol and were treated far more gently than college kids peacefully holding BLM signs have been. A tremendous amount of this is ringing true.
Which part? How voting for a bourgeoisie party will totally stave off fascism, rather than direct action, protesting, strikes, etc?
@@JB-bc2ry You can literally do both. You can vote to prevent the worse party from being in office, while still organizing, and doing direct action.
Both were riots..? Wtf?
@@JB-bc2ry well, specifically and especially the part that protests and revolution from the left is unlikely to be supported by the military/people with firepower, unlike the right, who have police connections and ex-military.
@@comradefreedom8275 Unfortunately there's no class conciousness in America, so our comrades who haven't fully come around will be conned into fighting on the grounds of the bourgeoisie parties, focusing entirely on reforms and voting in blue fascists
I’m a Russian bot, but you’ve convinced me to switch sides
This gave me a heart chuckle, thank you so much
@@teteteteta2548 A heart chuckle sounds painful.
spasibo tovarishch
Domo arigato, comrade roboto.
Biden built the cages.
Biden wrote the crime bill.
His administration dropped more bombs in the middle east than any other administration.
His administration deported more people than any other administration.
He is beholden to capital.
It's this constant liberal argument that THIS time you HAVE to vote blue. Biden is responsible for more reprehensible shit and death than Trump is. He has more blood on his hands. Trump says the quiet part out loud, but they serve the same interests.
All of congress is bought out by banks, weapon manufacturers, oil barons, corporate lobbyists, big pharma & other special interest groups. The longer we pretend that voting is actually doing anything, the harder it will be to obtain real change.
At first I thought the ACAB in Tabby's profile was 'assigned cat at birth.'
Isn't it supposed to mean this though?
@@a-pathetic no...
me too!
What does it actually mean
@@salarmajak1209 it means all cops are bastards
"Well you're right, I don't expect Trump to go quietly, but if there's a decisive Biden victory and it's not some sort of vote recount nightmare scenario, then I think the military will force Trump to leave."
YOU JINXED IT
Sad thing is, we can now tell roughly how far back a video was by how many people had died of covid.
Sakura!
Plus, turns out it's twice as bad as we thought it was. Argh!
HI SAKURA!! HOW'S LI SHAORAN?
:|
Yet still no one cares and life goes on rofl
So, I've seen a lot of "reasons you should NOT vote" statements from radical leftists, because hi I am a radical leftist. But the arguments aaaaalways boil down to exactly the ones you outlined in this video: "don't vote because it won't end capitalism", "don't vote because we should only be protesting," etc. And the thing is, I align myself with leftist ideologies because I want the material conditions -- the actual, tangible reality of people's current lives -- to be better. And that's not going to happen for a whole lot of people if leftists decide, en masse, to not vote. It's basically the same critique we all reasonably launch at centrists: If you choose to do nothing, then materially? You're really just allowing the current power structure to continue doing what it wants. Please vote, Folks!
My idea is I care first about human well-being, second about my political ideology (which is literally based on my value of human well-being). I do whatever I can to address the most urgent issues of equity, justice, and human rights, and that means voting blue.
@@sywitz Same, but I'm voting gold in the hopes that third parties will make a better showing in the coming years. I don't live in a swing state, so I think a vote for a third party will actually mean more for improving the country in the long run.
What about voting third party in a safe state so a third party so they can get 5% and federal funding?
@@whisperingsage89 Or just voting third party because it's still better than not voting, and easier to get excited for.
@@whisperingsage89 i think the biggest problem with voting third party, even in safe states, is that there could be more of a contest. people straight up didn’t vote in 2016 and caused same “safe” states to flip. i’m not personally against it, but there’s definitive risk to doing so. my biggest thing is “vote your conscience,” and for me this means biden because of how imperative i feel this election is for those on the left (and the gen pop of america) and i’m not taking that chance.
Thanks for mentioning Puerto Rico. Most people forget we’re Americans, too.
I was taught Puerto Rico was an independent country, so when I learnt otherwise I was comfused
I'm still vaguely traumatised by that time Trump said Puerto Rico should be getting help from their own country and stop burdening the US.
@@Realisticallyliteral He's an isolationist at best, his stupidity knows no bounds tho. I want PR to actually have a chance to restructure and be cash positive, bc no legal bankruptcy is a nightmare. Maybe Biden will sing a different tune.
@@Realisticallyliteral it’s so insanely scary that he doesn’t even know what territories are apart of the country he is “leading.” I wonder if he knows about Hawaii and Alaska too.
@@theshamanite trump’s stupidity definitely is expansionist
Wow. Natalie is scary good at reading the room of American politics
She's not scary good, she is just informed and well-read, and cares about staying up-to-date on the state of politics.
The biggest divide in this country isn't between left and right, it's between those who pay attention and those who don't.
"Leftist 22 yr olds" Im literally in that picture and I hate it.
I did vote tho in GA. General and runoff
Congrats. You played yourself
Then you're already better than the peter coffins and accelerationist catgirls of the world. Congrats. It took me a while longer than you to learn that pragmatism trumps ideation when it comes to getting shit done.
Yay, good for you (and everyone)!!!
Thank you 🙏
Voting is not a marriage. Voting is a bus trip : you never get a bus that picks you up in front of your house and drops you exactly where you want to go. Among all the buses, you pick the one that brings you closer to your destination.
Literally this. Pin this.
exactly
This analogy just has got to stop being regurgitated. It is absolutely ineffective at persuading radical leftists because Biden is not taking us anywhere even close to the society they want. That doesn't mean voting out a fascist isn't important.
@@connor5669 Persuading radicals in general is hard thing to do -- first they have to be de-radicalized, a simple analogy alone is not going to change their minds. They have to be willing to confront reality first.
I picked Bernie and he didn’t arrive so I’d rather walk
we know natalie's fits are always elite but that shirt is giving me "my husband recently died under mysterious circumstances, welcome to my garden party" and i'm LIVING for it
and the headpiece SCREAMS “this is the first thing i bought with the life insurance money”
“Where did these nightshades come from?”
@@merrittanimation7721 the blood on the counter? oh.... just... butcher meat.
nadal ekene “Here have some ham. It’s extra bloody.”
Yeah? To me It says "I just fell in love with someone from my local gardening club, and its A MARRIED WOMAN".
If you look carefully, some of Tabitha's keystrokes don't actually line up with what is being typed on screen.
It’s incredibly subtle, possibly CGI.
You have a detective’s eye. And a dancer’s calves.
(I have no real idea why I said that last sentence, it was just in my heart for some reason…)
Just checking in to point out that Contra has been completely right about everything so far...
@It aint no thing Revolution is a change to the status quo. What Trumpists did wasn't revolution. It was a coup. They wanted a dictator. Communists and Anarchists want to liberate people from oppression
@@JB-bc2ry Yeah well... Anarchists have been warning communists for 150 years or more to watch out, y'know, that things could escalate quickly in the bad direction... Communists on the other hand, well... Let's just say for the moment they haven't made such a good impression... As I am leaning towards anarchy right now, I'm expecting to be deported during the next communist revolution... Well, that's life I guess!
@@Kyrielsh1 You do realize that communism and anarchism both plan for the dissolution of the current social order into a classless, moneyless, stateless society, and that neither group are genocidal maniacs and/or corrupt corporate elites like right wingers, right?
@@JB-bc2ry You do realize what happened between the Black Army of Ukraine and the Red Army of Russia in the early 20th century, don't you?
Gonna make a "Natalie Was Right" shirt to go with my "Magneto Was Right" shirt.
contrapoints struggling with her inner cat girl is... internalized meowsogyny
@@konotton I- pFFFFFTTTTTT
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Misogynaaaaa~ is bad! Twocxic Mwascuwinyaaaaaty is bwad aswell! OwO *suppa angwy tail wags!!1!*
@@greyscale8137 This whole thread is the absolute worst and it's exactly what I need in this trying time XD
A clawful joke
@Tommy Noble *She
Meowsogynya
im a leftist voting because climate change is just too dire... we dont have time to deal with people who straight up reject science.
Scientist: Fracking is bad
Biden: i will NOT ban fracking
@@miriadofbluepuddles7757 baby steps
Same, I'm not sure if the amount of damage trump could do to the environment in another term would even be reversible. We can't just like sacrifice the literal earth cuz Biden isn't prefect.
Same. Personally, I think Climate Change and the pandemic are the only issues we should be talking about right now in regards to the election. If Donald Trump becomes President again, everything he has done or would do will be reversible, tax cuts can be changed, we can re-introduce healthcare benefits, we can tear down a wall, the only things that can't be reversed are the deaths Donald Trump caused through negligence and by downplaying the affects of COVID and the irreversible devastation we are causing to our planet. The time to talk about what to do is long gone, we need to join the Paris Climate agreement or the New Green Deal because America literally emits the most greenhouse gases per person out of every other country in the world, we have been such a large negative influence on our planet, we can't afford to have a President in office who thinks that the Climate Crisis is a hoax made up by China.
Yeah, for me it's health care. I have MS and the thought of losing the minimal protections we have now is terrifying. And there are many other Americans in the same (or worse) situation.
As a person who lives in florida, a person who isn't a superstitious bigot, and a person who has actual empathy; I'm fully aware that my vote will have 0 impact in the results. I still vote, not out of any delusion it'll have an impact or belief in small changes adding up; but purely out of a sense of civic obligation. The way I see it is this: Even though the vast majority of society has abandoned the concept of society and refuses to perform their responsibilities as members of society, I have no right to follow that example. Other people being trash does not give me the right to be trash.
So I vote with the full knowledge that it'll have no impact, just because I don't want to be the kind of person who abandons my duties just because the system is broken.
this is such as good mindset to have.
What a self righteous attitude. Voting isn't a civic duty, it's realpolitik. Voting isn't activism, it doesn't make you morally superior than the normal person who doesn't vote for genocidal politicians.
Rewatching this video in 2023, realizing that I had previously put a thumbs-down on it, because for some reason I didn't think that Contra would turn out to be 100% right about everything.
It really is insane to watch. I somehow had no idea in october of 2020 that people seriously anticipated january 6th. I remember that day really took me by surprise. i didn't expect him to go quietly, but I also didn't expect him to be bold enough for a violent insurrection.
@@markpeterson2042the ppl that went to prison are gonna get released on good behavior, hardened & with criminal contacts & possible neo-nazi connections….
The red flags🚩🚩🚩 are still waving every day. Overton window hasn't stopped yet. He threatens generals, says inflammatory statements daily, and gives away military secrets. VOTE 🇺🇸
I'm mostly upset that I've never voted for anyone I'll ever be willing to publicly defend. I hate the two party system and the idea that political ideologies are binary.
Me too
It’s pretty awful!
Hi Kat
We'll get there
Breaking that would mean leftist policies would rarely ever win any election. That's what's happening in latin america.
For those who are still on the fence about voting: My literal life and hundreds of thousands of others in this country are dependent off of Biden winning. I’m a DACA recipient and my only legal pass here is in dire danger of being revoked by the Trump administration every few months. All I know is America, all I love is America. It’s kind of gross actually because I cry during the national anthem and seriously worship the land in a way that makes born-Americans look at me weird. I’m a law-abiding person who wishes with all of her heart to be able to vote, to be able to not feel like all of my contributions to this country aren’t in vain. It’s sad because Im probably being entitled, I know I don’t “deserve” to be here and I’m getting a “temporary guest pass” at most-but being sent back to my birth country will put me in severe harms way-the reason we ran away from it in the first place. What I’m asking here really is for you to look inside of yourself to please re-consider your vote. We DACA recipients contribute millions and millions to the economy and we create jobs every day! We have so much to offer, so much love and gratitude. Please consider us when you’re looking at your ballot. Im literally begging you to please re-consider. If Trump strips us of our protection most of us will not be able to receive federal aid for college, travel within the country, get a job legally, buy a car from a dealership and a myriad of other things you can freely do. We grew up with you, we speak your language and understand your humor. You wouldn’t have known we were immigrants any other way unless we tell you. We’re Americans too, but we don’t have a voice-we’re not granted that immense luxury. I beg of you to re-consider your vote for Trump. I beg of you to re-consider abstaining from voting. Please.
Edit: I want to thank all of the extremely lovely messages I’ve been getting in the comment section. You’re all incredibly wonderful human beings and I wish I could pay the kindness forward. Thank you for listening to my plea without judgment. I hope you are all safe, warm, and your bellies full and may you rest peacefully. There are real consequences to this election. Real lives put in danger. I hope we can buy ourselves some more time.
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boosting this, this is so important for people to hear. I'm sorry you feel like you don't deserve to be here, you do, you deserve so much more comfort and security than you're getting
I will always, always vote for this reason. My very first friend in college was a DACA recipient, and he convinced me to vote in 2012, when I was 18 and both politically and socially ignorant. He told me that he would give anything to be able to vote. The results of the election could change his whole life, and he didn't get to have any say. So, even though my conservative upbringing still had its hooks in me, I voted for Obama because I wanted to help my friend. He and his family have gone through so much fear and uncertainty these last four years. Biden wasn't my first choice, but of course I voted for him. It would be the height of disrespect to the thousands of DACA recipients and undocumented people in this country to throw my vote away!
Jojo, you are as much of an American - and probably more so - than any of us born here. In your love and appreciation for this country I see the possibility of hope: that we can all work together to actually make America great (for the first time) by living up to the principles we profess: liberty & equality. You deserve to be here, and I will absolutely vote, and only for candidates who feel the same way. Best of luck to you, and to us all, and eff Trump and the entirety of the GOP.
"this country is closer to some kind of violent uprising than its ever been in my life" that aged well!!
Life is a process of pain and nothing is there friends
Who asks are tears sent by their own hands?
Whose wish is this, why we are weeping again today❤️❤️
9:08 Contra predicted it lmao. God, I hate this country.
that's right, the military totally needed to get involved!
The increasingly realistic methods of typing really bring this together
buit it was not realistic
@@sjkdsfsdf52 they were making a joke about how the typing was intentionally unrealistic
The hairbrush lol
@@sjkdsfsdf52 are you sure, mostly my typing is "just" like that
@@fern5505 but nobody types with a brush its to wide it would hit more button than just one.
Really like that point about Revolutionary Ideation. My circle of friends is very smash the system/eat the rich when we're chilling together, but in reality we all wake up in the morning, put on a shirt and go work for the corporation because we got bills to pay and we'd like to have a career that allows us to afford some comfort at some point in life.
Fantasizing about magical revolution is fun and all, but outside of my small circle of like-minded friends, I'm the most left-wing person I know. Revolution isn't happening tomorrow morning because a handful of socialists in corporate jobs who've never held a weapon decide that capitalism is #cancelled. Revolution comes in two unpleasant forms: fast and deadly, or slow and boring. And let me tell you none of my eat the rich friends are ready for the first kind. As much as we like the idea of pulling out the guillotines and making Bezos kebabs, our temperaments and skillsets are much more suited to the kind of slow, redious, unsexy, incremental reforms we like to sneer at. So maybe just maybe we should do everything we can to ensure there isn't a narcissistic demagogue in the big chair with an army of loyal ghouls syphoning off public funds to grow their own economic power.
It never ceases to amaze me how people can be so insightful and put so much effort in a youtube comment they don't even know anyone will read
@@acdeeiprrt sometimes just writing something and putting it out there can be satisfying in and of itself. Plus, if you leave five comments, someone's gonna read one. And do that five times, someone might have an interesting response. So eventually you'll see some sort of minor material effect.
This is so well put
Bro preach it
Isn't slow and boring revolution evolution?
Natalie, please do not quit making your videos! Brilliant! You're vids are my secret weapon for helping me pull friends and family out of their insane far right views. Much love!!!
Do you go a step after that when it comes to converting them? Cause Contra is great for deconversion but then they're only at liberalism and not communism/anarchism
@@JB-bc2ry I try to slowly introduce them to leftist ideas without the scary buzzwords like *socialism and *communism
@@SeabeastAhab Can you do that without giving them a warped vision of what leftism is? We want people to actually make the step into anarchism/communism because liberalism can't create a good and equitable society for all
@@JB-bc2ry ok so I work in a small town weld shop with nothing but a bunch of working class Trumpers. These guys want the same things that ancoms want, they just don't know it and they are mistakenly placing the blame on democrats while simultaneously supporting neolib conservatives. So when I talk to these guys, their complaints are always the same. They feel cheated by the government's oligarchy and corporate capitalism. So I come in with ancom remedies and strong talk of collectivist reconciliation. Its a slow process, because they have to come to the left side on their own. If you push them, they will typically move farther right. I hope that makes sense. I'm in the middle of watching my 2 yr old and so I'm limited on time.
@@JB-bc2ry are you living in reality? 95% or americans you will immediately lose the second you mention communism.
"But if there's a decisive Biden victory and it's not some kind of vote-recount nightmare scenario"
This aged well
When I saw the "ACAB" on Tabby's profile my first thought was that it stood for "Assigned Cat At Birth" until I remembered what it actually stood for.😂
😂😂
Can we just appreciate Tabby's typing lol
i noticed it got progressively more absurd, and loved it. when she was using a hairbrush on the keyboard was brilliant.
Now that's what I call a sleight of hand!
Hi, my name is Tabatha and I’m actually communist cat girl irl, it scared me when I thought you were literally talking to me specifically. The shock. Also I’m 22. Wild.
Did you vote?
ur super heckin' valid btw
it’s u.....
Congrats on the over 100 million deaths caused by communist regimes over the last century.
WOW, LITERALLY?
I guess the right wing really were closer to intent than ideation
You know what? I feel called out. And rightly so. It's easy to yell "revolution" in my Instagram story but the reality of politics and political change is very slow and tedious and often also boring. I also have no patience at all left for actual discourse or reaching out to people. I'm so tired and burnt out. So i flee into revolutionary ideation to make myself feel superior. Huh. Got schooled by a pretty lady today, 10/10 would watch again.
Here is what helps me with political burnout. Relax, take a breath, walk away from it all for a few days. The most important thing as an activist is your health, to live a happy life. Take care of yourself.
True , political change is slow and this will always remain like that, even when we don't radically change our socioeconomic system which will lead to a collapse of the ecological system. It is almost like material reality necessitates radical change.... But don't mind me, I am just am idealist communist
You dropped this 👑
Pathetic, spoiled, narcissist, social media junkies.
We scream revolution because we'll be dead or in chains before any change happens. And when Biden wins (and I hope he does) well have someone worse than Trump in 4 years and the blood war will still happen.. most likely right after the election.
As someone who has worked in crisis services, and engaged in lethality assessments with actively suicidal folks, I love the application of "ideation vs. intent" in this video. It's brilliant.
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I've been telling my american friends since 2016 that Bernie was the best option. It is a shame that just by having socially directed politics he was persived as a cuban communist dictator.
Although congratulations on your results.
That's what's scary cause Bernie in no Ways Is radical(he's SocDem) but if Bernie gets thought of as that,then what would a socialist have to do to even get accepted by the mass? Cause if people feel like that about Bernie,they are gonna have an heartattack if they see actual radicals
Fidel was a hero, and was not a dictator.
Next year is the first election I will be voting age for… I will definitely be voting for whatever lib we can bully into passing leftist policies 😂
Same ❤ I was voting age last election and I was too dumb to vote thinking morality would win in the end. And it did. But the divisiveness and dissent has only grown since then and I am truly terrified. I cannot believe the legislation that has since been able to pass. Oh my god. And people do not see what's coming next if the right is allowed to continue.
Theocracy.
Good luck with that 😂
Thank you for voicing a tough conversation. 💜 I’ve been frustrated with how performative the online sphere is. It’s exhausting to reason with. Now is not the time to be the coolest, most aloof person in the room who refuses to do the bare minimum.
I don't think there is ever a time where it is ok to be aloof and refusing to do the bare minimum. I agree that this is all exhausting though, and very frustrating. It sucks to not do something, but it also sucks to try to do something. Pick your poison I guess. My advise perhaps would be to start with people whom you have disagreements, but for the most part agree on the other topics. Instead of outright diving into the complete opposite pit.
Natalie Wynn just dommed me into voting using facts and logic
That's one way of putting it I guess
@@confusedowl297 that's an excellent way of putting it imo
The best dommes use a light touch ;)
this is one of those videos that only gets better with time
I love how even the most pessimistic anticipations for what Twump will do don't even measure up to what he'll end up doing- Like I knew he was gonna throw a tantrum when he lost, but claiming voter fraud AND THEN basically goading his trumpets to commit terrorism on his behalf? Now that's wild
Don't forget that Biden isn't the only person you're voting on. Down Ballot voting is going to be huge this year. I mean it's possible even Lindsey Graham loses his seat. How amazing would that be?
Sadly, a lot of people forget there's other things on the ballot that are just as important. We lucked out in the blue wave for the midterm elections for my state. We actually was able to pass bills that would normally be striked down with the more conservative leaning state government.
This. More than anything this.
For most of us, down ballot voting is actually more important than the top line. Vote Democratic down the line. Having the Senate is absolutely critical to Biden accomplishing anything we want. Have the votes to put bills on his desk and see if he'll sign them. Have more than a narrow margin in the Senate will mean better legislation, because there are some Democrats who're going to be hard to persuade for big moves (like killing the filibuster and expanding the Supreme Court).
And maybe even more importantly in the long run - State houses and governors. It's a redistricting year and that's going to drive politics for the next decade. Winning so many states in 2010 and gerrymandering the shit out of them is one big way Republicans dominated the rest of that decade.
fucking MITCH could lose his seat!! how incredible would that be??
The House is super important. If the election is contested, the house gets to decide who wins. But they give each state one vote. Trump currently has an advantage, BUT if enough House seats flip, the newly elected House gets to decide the Presidency when they take office in early January.
These rules are crazy, but yeah. Basically: those down ballot races matter. A LOT.
We could actually have Affirmative Action in California after this year. We could lose the right to fair employment. And uh... Something about dialysis I guess. Vote please.
seeing a contra video less than an hour long was a shock to the system
I'm guessing this was a side video made while still working on Justice part 2. There is a pretty hard deadline for getting a video on this topic out!
I sometimes forget that the US is not a social democracy and that's... sad
You've got the money, you've got the resources, but you can't spread them properly
That last line is the title of a video I NEED to watch.
No western countries existence is a social democracy.
Even the Nordics combined social democracy with neoliberalism.
Rewatching in light of the last few weeks - you are prescient as always. You've been wonderful and brave to share your whole journey, your intelligence and humility (yes, I mean that) shines through everything you do, and your ability to just talk sense in a so very human way, is such a light. I wish you had a bigger voice even than this. Thank you
cosign
"To me, voting is more of a utilitarian calculation based on the likely consequences of each candidate winning."
I can't tell you how validating it was to hear someone say that. I've had similar experiences on Twitter and that one sentence boils my thought process down perfectly.
Its so stupid that people see it as support and alignment with my "team". They end up being on team "I wasted my precious vote", that's the team they're on.
I think everyone is using a utilitarian calculation. Not voting Biden or Trump is looking more long term. Accelerationism sounds dumb but can work because we don't have time to waste when it comes to climate change. Incremental change won't save us, and a lot of people won't survive without M4A and a green new deal is the LEAST we can do to meaningfully combat climate change. With Biden, that won't happen, then in 4 or 8 years we'll get another Republican and will have wasted our time. OR..let Trump win, and show the Dems that they can't win without being at least progressive. Win back the Senate, handcuff Trump and force the Dems to listen to our demands because we don't have time to waste on corporate center right candidates. The lesser of two evils is a slow death, but a guaranteed death none the less.
@@mindlander I am skeptical that a Trump win would facilitate those changes. Bernie losing in 2016 gave us Hillary and instead of learning from that, Dems gave us...Biden. So I doubt losing again in 2020 will make them learn from that. In fact, they would probably just become even more conservative to maintain power in a more fascist world.
And when it comes to climate change, everything Trump does is making the climate crisis worse. Biden's plan doesn't do enough, but he has taken in some key elements of the Green New Deal and sounds open to more after listening to some of Bernie's people. There's some pretty decent stuff in his plan. Meanwhile, four years of Trump nosediving the climate further only makes solving the problem even more difficult and won't change Republican minds all of a sudden. Even now as the West Coast of America is on fire, they still want to blame it on forest management.
@@mindlander "show the dems"... Natalie addresses you directly. Don't help elect fascist to "own the dems". I guess that's not getting through to you.
those were my Hilary feels. i felt like I had to swallow the less nasty load four years ago, for almost nothing. I swear to fuck if I just had to smile and swallow the Mr. White Christmas for fuck all... well, I guess I'll just have to keep at it forever, if mostly to do *something* to dent the damage that people like Mr. Incremental Change Galaxy Brain in here will do to lead to a future that's less positive for freaks and the filthy poor like me.
The bit about revolutionary ideation is honestly something I really needed to hear.
Likewise
Can you explain why you needed to hear it?
yeah, that's literally the foundation of twitter discourse
It’s not a good point, many people are serious about overthrowing. There are plenty of gun owning socialists, many with army training who are currently making less than minimum wage who want it. Don’t let this lib get you down, unsubscribe
@@DendyJungle
"plenty"
“Close to some kind of violent uprising” that aged well
"But if it's not some kind of vote-recount scenario" - Queen has known that in this case something would go south. And it happened 😭
Believe it or not, you can do multiple things at the same time. You could say, vote and also unionize.
What an astounding idea. You could be doing multiple efficient things at once, increasing overall effectiveness.
This is every argument I've had in my left spheres. You can vote AND plan the revolution. Only under Biden, less people hurt during this process.
Wait 2 things? I don't know that seems too radical, it'll never work.
@@bearded_raven4526 Less chance of revolution under Biden.
@@danb9028 I don't think that's necessarily true. If Democrats are in charge, the idea of getting a different party in power to change things doesn't make sense. BLM and Standing Rock happened under Obama, after all.
“Please don’t re-elect a fascist just to own the libs” distills it down nicely. I worked on the Clinton campaign in college in South Dakota(Bill Clinton because yes I am old) so I agree with you that until you get in the trenches you are just a spectator. I participated in Act Up and the Lesbian Avengers in the early 90’s and learned so much about focused protest. I wish that every young person, especially the LGBTQ young people take the opportunity to be active....not just on Twitter. And thanks for letting a boring old lesbian grandma prattle on for a bit, Natalie.
Trump isn't a Fascist. Populist/Moronic right winger who refuses to expand the Patriot Act when the Dems try force him to = / = Fascist. (Also if he was a Fascist, why would the Dems be trying to EXPAND his powers?)
Also this argument falls flat, when you have groups like the FARC, Naxals, NPA etc who actually HAVE been fighting actual proper murderous Fascists, and no, don't support their shitty Neolib right wing alternatives.
Thanks to you and people like yourself, the current generation of LGBT have suffered very little (in the grand scope, at least)
Thank you for fighting, grandma. Thank you for giving us more opportunities.
> I worked on the clinton campaign
gulag for you
@@KironVB I don't see what you're trying to do here. So despite all of the dangerous shit Trump has pulled, both legislatively and in terms of rallying the right in America, you're saying he's merely a dumb buffoon who just appeals to what the people like? I mean, even if that was the case, it doesn't change the fact that many of the things he is doing are fascistic, and that his base supporters are far-right fascist groups. If I had to choose between someone supported by wet-blanket libs or fascists who actively want me dead (and wouldn't hesitate to kill me if they could get away with it), I would choose the wet-blanket presidency.
Thank you for your service 💜
This video aged like a fine whisky.
Well done, Natalie. Well done.
Watching this the day after the Capitol riots, and your thoughts about the right's militias and links to the police are distressingly apropos.
Gotta say, that “landscaping business” line aged like the finest wine.
*chef kiss*
* just dying *
Indeed. Savor it.
I didn't think that was possible. Even in Trump's world. 😂
@@trickvro holy shit lol
Okay, you convinced me.
Today, where I live, it’s the last day to register. It’s 11:44 pm, and I just finished filling out the form to register to vote. I’m a transgender man who is apolitical, but I know what’s right and I’m not going to act like I don’t. As much as I love to walk around and act as if the world isn’t a political place, it is, and it does change how everything is. I originally felt I was to incompetent to vote, but I think I know enough. I’ll vote for Joe Biden.
Good for you, dude! You can always google everything on the ballot. That's what I did for everything besides the presidential vote. Did I know the candidates running for county sheriff? Absolutely not. But I looked them up, and I voted for one, because he was less of shithead to black people.
I’m super glad to read this, and good on you. But I don’t understand how you can be apolitical as a trans man when your very existence is politicized by forces that literally wish to make you and all others like you stop existing. Being apolitical in that climate is endorsing this violence, because you won’t do anything to change it or protect your peers. If I may ask, what motivated you to take this stance in the first place?
Here's a little something extra to consider: "apolitical" is an illusion. You might not be interested in politics, or don't want to bother with it. But the very act of not engaging with politics is a political act that endorses the status quo.
I hope everyone in these comments voting for Biden, realise you are RESPONSIBLE for everything Biden does and are RESPONSIBLE for relegitimising Neoliberalism. I hope you are aware of that. Your "harm reduction" doesn't mean shit when your actively legitimising a worse system and refuse to support candidates that actually give a fuck and help third parties hit that 5% threshold.
KironVB I long for the days when I was as politically naive as you. It was so much comfier.
Complacent liberalism has given the Christofascists their power. Please spread the word and be vocal everyone. Make it crystal clear that we need to unify the left. We need to be solid more than ever next year. And be safe!
hi mom justice pt 2 pls the country is broken
As an ex Jehova's Witness, voting makes me so much edgier than my parents. (For those who don't know, JWs don't vote.)
Lol
Don't vote trump at least
@@cracktoon_powerscaling wouldn't even if I were American.
Hello, fellow apostate! Isn't it nice to know the truth about The Truth?
@@BananaBrainsZEF hello! 👋 It sure is
As an ex-jw (unofficial but i subscribed to their shite for most of my youth) myself, fuck yeah
You're not just voting for a president, you're voting for other members of your government as well. VOTE
A lot of people don't seem to understand that the president doesn't have ALL the power and that state and local elections are equally important. Mitch McConnell's complacency over his time in Senate shows that.
@Starwars Fan360 Picking between getting plague and getting the common cold is still a choice. Even if ether is not an outcome you like. But it is a choice.
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@Starwars Fan360 They aren't just talking about presidents. If you want change then check your ballot - many places elect judges as well and these do effect local laws and how they may be implemented. The president and even your senate and congressional reps are NOT the only thing that affect your life.
And while the Electoral College dilutes the votes of many Americans for president, it doesn't have any impact on any other elections. Down-ballot elections are the ones that actually affect your life in an immediate way!
(I'm also super-pissed about the current Senate, and am almost shaking with excitement at the opportunity to vote that dipshit Thom Tillis out of office.)
the “my boy” sound bit lives in my head rent free.
i had a friend that was antifa, his name was Ryan and i remember arguing with him all the time cause i was a conservative at the time. he died probably around the time this video came out. i wonder what he would think about the person i've become, that being a leftist trans girl lmao. i miss him.
I’m sorry for your loss :(.
@@GG-fc4nx thank you
Hope Ryan is resting in peace 💜 I think if you're happy then he is happy yknow?
@@alim.9801 im sure he's happy i shed the conservative nonsense. iono what he'd think about the trans thing but given how the rest of the friend group took it he'd probably be happy i figured it out lmao
The fascists are voting: are you?
The fascists are also planning on hanging around outside voting booths to harrass voters they don't think should be there, so be careful out there folks
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Edgy Twitter Leftists: Voting never changed anything
Adolf:
Ich weiß nichts über diesen einen Chef
@@maresgoez
omg, the thirst!
@@maresgoez I'm a tad underaged, please re-evaluate
Although I will be working the polls. Everyone must do their part
"How's that going, Tabitha? How many weapons have you amassed? How many units have you trained?"
It's like herding cats...
@pjd412 It's cuz for lefties, the revolution isn't a realistic goal: not even lefties themselves actually believe it'll happen, because otherwise like Natalie said they'd be planning for it.
"The revolution" is the magic wand to wave at all the problems we can't be arsed to try to fix ourselves. And that's it.
@pjd412 socialists in america (disclaimer I am not american) think they can win a revolutionary war with bricks sticks and firebombs, specially against a county with the biggest military ever. protesters are used to rubber bullets and let me tell you, while they hurt. it won't be rubber that will be used against a revolution.
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@@ellymarks6833 Horizontal organizint is like having drunk blindfolded cats herd other drunk blindfolded cats
Who's here after they invaded the capitol lol
I think the attack on the capitol will result in a fragmentation of the Republican party. That might cause them to lose power.
"I think this country is closer to some type of violent uprising than it ever has been in my life"
SHE SAW IT COMING YALL
Life is a process of pain and nothing is there friends
Who asks are tears sent by their own hands?
Whose wish is this, why we are weeping again today
Life is a process of pain and nothing is there friends
Who asks are tears sent by their own hands?
Whose wish is this, why we are weeping again today
@@MZG1992 my original comment had to do with the riot at the capitol, but I don't think yours does.
I thanked my co-supervisor for being so cool about me being trans and his response was 'watching ContraPoints does give some insight'. He recommended your channel to me months ago and knowing that he's a fan of you was one of the things that made me feel safe to come out to my coworkers. Thank you for existing! ^-^
thats beautiful aaa
This genuinely put a smile on my gay ass face, I needed to read something like this today, thx
This legitimately convinced a couple leftist friends of mine to vote, thank you Contra
@Not Sure Dude you joined RUclips 4 days ago please bot somewhere else
@Not Sure your logic is all over the place… it’s easy to just say stuff. takes “analytical skills” to actually back it up
Awesome. WORD! I had this same argument with so many leftist friends, albeit not near as elegantly and informed as Natalie, but like .... same except like ... stoner bro talk 🤣
*eloquently not elegantly ... well elegantly too . But I meant “eloquently”
I voted for Biden, it’s my 1st election that I could vote in, I don’t like Biden at all, but Bernie wasn’t an option unfortunately I would’ve voted Bernie before the primary but wasn’t 18 at the time
This is so much more chilling and poignant now.
Life is a process of pain and nothing is there friends
Who asks are tears sent by their own hands?
Whose wish is this, why we are weeping again today
To be fair, seeing this two years later for the first time, and getting accurately called out... is kind of crazy.
You didn't get called out, the video debunked itself
For demographic purposes I'm a 35 year old white male and I work in an oil refinery about 40 minutes North of the edge of civilization. Love your channel. I think you have an important voice and I've learned a lot from listening to you.
"40 minutes north of the edge of civilization"
Hey, has it been okay over quarantine?
@@Slavaisusukhrystu It's not under quarantine. The site has been deemed one of ten essential businesses for Canada. It's a bit like living in a minimum security prison so the shutdown season made for a long rotation. Masks are mandatory; if you get caught not wearing one properly it's a lifetime ban from site. The health standards that are maintained are pretty impressive but are kind of a pain in the ass to live with. Most of the men and women up here seem to be in pretty good spirits. Quite a few die hard Trump fans who are starting to get a bit discouraged about his election prospects. I mean I get it. It's pretty easy to like the guy and think he's awesome if you just ignore all the things he says and does. I'm more concerned about you folks south of the border. I think November is going to be a challenging month for all of you.
we love you mark
@@Mark_w_oneil thank you for helping to disperse the demographic myths so common nowadays. Yes, there's some truth in the labels but nothing is completely black and white. For instance, I am a staunch Progressive yet I am a supporter of the Second Amendment and carry a firearm daily. I like you find myself straddling two worlds as much of my fellow second amendment supporting Americans are diehard Trump fans. It does feel good though to be able to look outside the narrow world view determined for you. Contrapoints has helped immensely in this. Take care and thanks again for thinking of us down south.
"And in effect, edgy leftists who complain about both sides and do nothing are no different from edgy centrists who complain about both sides and do nothing."
This perfectly articulates something I've been thinking about a lot lately but hadn't managed to put into words.
You must have a very limited vocabulary if such a bait-y reductionist take wow you this much.
The lesser evil is the theme every year
I wish I had found this channel sooner. Thank you for your work!
Orange is sus. Vote him out.
Underrated comment
What's a sus 😳
@@LO-gg6pp Sus is short for suspicious, it is a reference to a game called Among Us where you run around with friends trying to repair your space ship and get ready to launch, but some of the group are randomly traitors that are sabotaging things and killing off people. You get to vote to kick people off the ship and everyone has to try to deduce who the traitors are.
@@Waywardpaladin cheers m8
Never does any tasks and made fun of brown after they were killed.
"The communist catgirl who lives in my brain" Why can't my terrifying nightmare delusions be this cool?
Absolutely love your videos. Everyone needs to hear this... seriously.
Your work is some of the most important on RUclips. I absolutely love it and you can tell there is so much effort put in. You’re amazing contra!!
Trump summed it nicely : If you elect Biden, he'll listen to scientists.
It's darkly hilarious that he thought he was making a point against Biden...
Biden will listen to BLM's front figures (far-right marxists), criminals, and those who don't deserve to live in America due to their horrific actions. Biden will let China and Iran sponsor terrorism without penalties, and abuse America. But leftist americans don't care about this, it's brushed under the rug or seen as a feature.
@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 neither one of these options is ideal. Thats the reality here. Both of them are bad. Both parties want to take sole control over everything with little concern for the people they're supposed to be serving. So we have to just blindly throw darts in the dark and hope to god we hit the right target
@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 It's amazing how democrats can pick the most conservative candidate in the party to run for president, and rightwingers still make him out to be some far left puppet. The world is nonsense, I'm so tired.
@@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1 1) If you think only your clique live to deserve in your country, you're most like a fascist 2) Trump hasn't done *anything* to temper the riot except telling white supremacists to "stand by". He's already proven useless in this situation. Biden has already offered solution to help quell the anger behind the protests. 3) Trump has applauded the Chinese concentration camp and generally stan Winny the Flu hard, another situation he's proven inept to handle. Also the Chinese government are absolutely evil but what terrorism do they sponsor? 4) There was a process in place to handle Iran, a deal so they would stop their nuclear research. It was going well against guess who stumbled into it and fucked it up. He has not been able to offer any constructive alternative.
Let's face it, most of the garbage you spouted comes from sources like Tucker Carlson, who by his own lawyer's admission shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone sane.
He actually said that?
Hey, I'm Russian and I strongly advise you to vote instead of ignoring the election. Too many of my Russian peers are choosing the "ignore" option, and like it didn't get us anywhere. Be smart, USA. Vote.
#ContraPointsforPresident
Wow a Russian that watches contra ?
@@comichb What's so surprising? It's a small world :)
Also, Contra is too great to ignore, so...
130% of voters turned out last election in russia
This is my favorite kind of Russian interference! JK, I wish you well Mr. O.
yes!!! so much love for you! can't even begin to explain how grateful I am for you and your kick ass videos! just love it so much! gonna keep going strong and staying happy!👘💓 love you and thanks for the support!
"Of course i don't expect trump to go silently" and sadly you were so right about that.
Yeah, remember when Trump started the second American Civil War and Biden never became President
@@grimmwarden1903 remember when people were murdered to get the Confederate flag into the Capitol and you minimized it just to be edgy? 🙄🙄
@@besacciaesteban You mean when DC cops intentionally let a mob of psychos in into the capital building, the same DC cops Biden has just provided record funding for? Look inside the house bud the "minimizers" are all wearing blue
love how 23 mins is considered a short video for contrapoints
It's only 4.5 Sargons.
This is the only video of Natalie’s that has an expiration date. And even then I would recommend it to someone 60 years in the future as a snapshot of left-leaning commentators on the 2020 election.
I love the various nonsense things that Tabby-chan does with the keyboard in lieu of typing that actually make words appear anyway.
Please vote for the neoliberal over the fascist. The whole world has to live under the US president. Love from not-the-US
Trump is, arguably, less of an interventionist than democrats and republicans alike. the lincoln project is filled by the warmongering monsters that lead to iraq. Of course Trump is such a pathetic leader he can't even keep his promise to stop intervention. so whatevs I guess.
@@rotciv1486 it goes both ways. The lack of intervention has many negative effects - Trump won't cooperate on global issues ranging from military conflicts to climate change and other environmental and social ones.
@@rotciv1486 it doesn't matter. i'm not in the US, and interventionism is just one of the many, many reasons we are shit-scared of the US under Trump, among which includes bloody WW3 with Iran, China or North Korea. Vote him out, please.
Exactly, that's why I'm voting for trump
@@tomasbeli7279 same here, I find him a morally repugnant and disgusting man, but he is still not as much of a war criminal imperialist hawk as biden. Liberals up in america, Nataly included, need to take the blinders off regarding who is evil here.
This shouldn’t be controversial in leftist circles because it surely isn’t in right-wing circles.
we need to mimic the solidarity rightists show. the infighting over here is insane and they know it.
Its controversial bc there is one right wing candidate and another right but closer to the middle wing candidate. Who would want to vote that trash. Then again im not from the US.
@@nadalekene2446 the online far left is crazy deep in it's own ass, nothing will ever break their thick dumb skulls. They're crazy enough I think they're secretly being astroturfed by the alt right.
I would reckon part of that is because they actually have a right wing candidate. A very, very right wing candidate. 🤷🏻♀️
@@nadalekene2446 That's because left leaning people are like that.
She knew!
This aged well
*Poorly*
Fixed it.
Refusing to vote isn't a protest if half the population doesn't vote out of apathy anyway.
What do they expect, they just won't get a president? That the election runs again? If even 5% of people vote, that's still a vote, and the winner still the winner.
@@thomasw4422 I don’t know. Low voter turnout is the norm in America so not voting isn’t anything unique. If voting was mandatory then not voting would be a protest, but in America the biggest battle is convincing people to vote in the first place.
It's weird that half a country can force their will upon the other half in the first place
@@jonjohnson8161 voter suppression is an issue and I can’t criticize people who have to deal with that for not voting, but not voting is not the moral high ground, it’s not a protest, and it does not change anything. I don’t see how anyone can look at what’s happened under Trump and not see that voting for Biden is necessary. Trump cannot be allowed to stay in power. Biden was far from my choice for the Democrat candidate but it’ll at least be trying to force him forward and not trying to prevent Trump and the republicans from pulling us back.
How do you know half the country isn't refusing to vote out of protest?
My hottest socialist take - who else zoomed on her bookmarks and is now trying to ALSO figure out the best way to Layer Curtains?
How much you wanna bet she loads up fake bookmarks just to mess with people?
lmk when you figure out
Gee, I always use whatever curtains my neighbors throw out.
...People throw out some of the best shit.
lmao
oh god I meant to crop it at least it's only that lol
The music background for a lot of the different people you talk about is really funny, Nat. Never change. I've been binge watching your stuff, and I freaking love all of it.
Here from 2022, and it turns out this election is important too. Considering all the election deniers running for governor and secretary of state.
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I hope anyone left leaning person who used to say voting doesn’t matter looks at the 2022 midterms. We were able to come together to prevent Trump backed candidates from winning, we stopped the red wave, flipped Pennsylvania, and voted to protect abortion in states where it was on the ballot (even in deeply conservative states!). Voting matters to make this country just slightly less horrible to live in.