The smug township attorney seems to think that “free speech” is limited to spoken word and that as long as you permit someone to speak words, then you can’t be violating the 1st amendment. “We’re not stopping you from speaking, just from expressing yourself non-verbally” Yeah that’s not how this works.
the attorney believes it's within the township's authority under first amendment "forum" case law to regulate the "manner" of speech in a "limited public forum" - not saying I agree but that is his stated position.
@@centralnjbut it has serve a SUBSTANTIAL government interest and they have to provide another way for them to express themselves without limitations. Meaning they can have those rules to get through business but then provide time at the end for the things they banned. Costumes and masks cannot be banned across the board. That’s unconstitutional.
Rarely seen such an incompetent municipal councillor and mayor. Who pays these "people" - citizens! What kind of salaries do such people "receive" - far too much! Doesn't the constitution stand above all laws and laws over rules - absolutely! How stupid is this lawyer next to the mayor and what is this idiot actually doing up there. Only the mayor and the municipal councillors sit up there - no one else. If the lawyer were an elected local councillor, well then he would have the right up there - otherwise not ! Freedom of expression is trampled underfoot - absolutely!
Well, that's not entirely clear under the fuzzy Supreme Court public forum / designated public forum / limited public forum rules, on which the circuits do not entirely agree. Curious how it would be interpreted under the free speech clause of the NJ Constitution, which is considered broader than the first amendment.
@@centralnj. After researching this these Decorum Rules CAN be applied but only AFTER they are passed. Rules such as the Scope of a Topic, Cursing, Yelling, Costumes, giving your Name/Address or having a sign-in sheet to speak.
The balls to have Joel Bassoff thrown out, knowing he is also a Lawyer. At least the NY Post picked up the story. Edison residents need to have these jokers removed. On top of that, the police chief did nothing and followed their orders like a puppy to throw out Joel Bassoff for waving a flag, really!!!!
“… ladies and gentlemen: It’s an old phrase, basically anonymous, politicians are a lot like diapers, they should be changed frequently, and for the same reasons. Keep that in mind the next time you vote.” - Robin Williams
😂 17:02 Being a Massachusetts resi dent, I noticed and appreciated the "Balloon Knot" reference from Mass State Trooper Michael Proctor Cross Examination in 1st Karen Read Hung Jury trial. 🤣
Mr Reno replace this attorney on the council I understand your referral will make money on the lawsuits but it's not right to the taxpayers get rid of this guy
What we seem to have here is a failure to realize who owns who! The city council exists to serve the people. The city council is a servant, not a master. THE PEOPLE dictate to the city council, not the reverse. THE PEOPLE have the authority to order the jackals to remove a city council member! No city council member should even think he or she has the authority to use a jackal to remove a citizen who contributes to their salary. PS. A jackal is a police man. I call them jackals because they roam about looking for prey.
The smug township attorney seems to think that “free speech” is limited to spoken word and that as long as you permit someone to speak words, then you can’t be violating the 1st amendment. “We’re not stopping you from speaking, just from expressing yourself non-verbally”
Yeah that’s not how this works.
what is the attorney's name?
It’s WE THE PEOPLE, NOT YOU THE CORPORATION
the attorney believes it's within the township's authority under first amendment "forum" case law to regulate the "manner" of speech in a "limited public forum" - not saying I agree but that is his stated position.
@@DonnyNoMarie I think it's Burns? The firm is Rainone Coughlin Minchello
@@centralnjbut it has serve a SUBSTANTIAL government interest and they have to provide another way for them to express themselves without limitations. Meaning they can have those rules to get through business but then provide time at the end for the things they banned. Costumes and masks cannot be banned across the board. That’s unconstitutional.
Rarely seen such an incompetent municipal councillor and mayor.
Who pays these "people" - citizens!
What kind of salaries do such people "receive" - far too much!
Doesn't the constitution stand above all laws and laws over rules - absolutely!
How stupid is this lawyer next to the mayor and what is this idiot actually doing up there.
Only the mayor and the municipal councillors sit up there - no one else.
If the lawyer were an elected local councillor, well then he would have the right up there
- otherwise not !
Freedom of expression is trampled underfoot - absolutely!
They are owned by the police union
Definitely a lawsuit needs filed on these people.
The Township Attorney is wrong and should be fired and disbarred.
Well, that's not entirely clear under the fuzzy Supreme Court public forum / designated public forum / limited public forum rules, on which the circuits do not entirely agree. Curious how it would be interpreted under the free speech clause of the NJ Constitution, which is considered broader than the first amendment.
@@centralnj. After researching this these Decorum Rules CAN be applied but only AFTER they are passed. Rules such as the Scope of a Topic, Cursing, Yelling, Costumes, giving your Name/Address or having a sign-in sheet to speak.
Never seen a council like this the council president should step down
Many city and county commissioners meetings are exactly like this.
The MAYOR is offering Legal Advice that he’s not qualified to give.. more evidence to support a Claim/Case!!
petition and recall all of them
heavy lift. Edison has over 60,000 registered voters and you need signatures from 25% to compel a recall election.
Man they just don't listen to the public at all.
Anybody that voted yes to disrespecting the flag you should vote them out at the next election
Did someone tell them we have a constitution
The balls to have Joel Bassoff thrown out, knowing he is also a Lawyer. At least the NY Post picked up the story. Edison residents need to have these jokers removed. On top of that, the police chief did nothing and followed their orders like a puppy to throw out Joel Bassoff for waving a flag, really!!!!
"Against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC..." Just saying...
How in the HELL did that so called city attorney get hic license from, a gumball machine!!!!! OMG citizens of Edison stand up NOW! SUE them ASAP
Definitely a Case here..
The City Attorney is there to protect the City as a Corporation, NOT the Residents.
Ban based on expressive content.
Not gonna work.
Get arrested for it to have a nice tort
man the tyrants are inn full force here!?
“… ladies and gentlemen: It’s an old phrase, basically anonymous, politicians are a lot like diapers, they should be changed frequently, and for the same reasons. Keep that in mind the next time you vote.” - Robin Williams
Ajay Patil wins the day. Fly that flag brother!
Somebody needs to file a Case !! Even a basic 2-3 bullet point Complaint filed would force that smug City Attorney to defend his position in a Court!!
the blue wall of silence, corruption, and incompetence on full public display
Amen
Good job council. The people are tired of these clowns wasting everyones time.
When anyone says “You People” , you know he don’t think much of us.
😂 17:02 Being a Massachusetts resi dent, I noticed and appreciated the "Balloon Knot" reference from Mass State Trooper Michael Proctor Cross Examination in 1st Karen Read Hung Jury trial. 🤣
I like to know how many people on the council served in the military disrespecting the flag
Petty tyrants
Mr Reno replace this attorney on the council I understand your referral will make money on the lawsuits but it's not right to the taxpayers get rid of this guy
The police in this scene is the verse they are directly outbreaker
Good looking flannel.. I bought one too...... Problem, is EVERY male in the U.S. has the exact same shirt they got from walmart
Maintain decorarim or LOOK WHATS TO HELP THE CITIZENS OF EDISON NEW JERSEY
In case you don’t know, the residents do not have to show you any kind of respect at all, you are not in a courtroom.
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they neve listen to the people , im watching from NY
What we seem to have here is a failure to realize who owns who! The city council exists to serve the people. The city council is a servant, not a master. THE PEOPLE dictate to the city council, not the reverse.
THE PEOPLE have the authority to order the jackals to remove a city council member! No city council member should even think he or she has the authority to use a jackal to remove a citizen who contributes to their salary.
PS. A jackal is a police man. I call them jackals because they roam about looking for prey.
Play Joshua you should step up and tell your cronies stop disrespecting the flag
Sounds like to me they're afraid someone's gonna George W. hike a shoe at the council chamber so no props.
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It's called public comment, not just that you're addressing the counsel.
Councilman coil I'm very surprised at you
This is the most insane thing ive ever seen
King Patel in a US city banning US flag!!
What “costumes” are they speaking of??
a guy came to a previous meeting in a bong costume. others have attenpted to wear "non-medical" masks.
@@centralnjso who cares its America dummy
These leaders are distracting from real business.
Since when Is an American flag a prop ? 🇺🇸
And the locals will reelect this council again . Take your rights back.
The town lawyer huh ok Gina paid waste decorum we talking bout practice
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courts have already ruled a sign is the same as speech. yall really that stupid?
That flag is not a prop you doosh
So beardy weirdy is the king of the council?
The constitution is not about people’s feelings