Kind of late update (Jan 2024), but the "newer" kit comes with 3 additional threaded drive side "optional adapters" (1.0, 1.5, and 1.75mm thread) and also a white o-ring. Using the M12x1.0 threaded adapter with the o-ring on my Tarmac SL7 means that the o-ring is providing softer contact against the paint on the drive side (I would still put some sort of protective sticker (helicopter tape) on the bike to protect the paint). Theoretically this should minimize clamping against the bike frame (since it uses the threads on the drive side for clamping force instead of the surface of the adapter). Alleviating concerns regarding paint scratch from clamping against the frame on drive side.
If you're using hydraulic brakes, it's also worth it to stick something like a folded up business card into the caliper where the disc would be. This is so the pistons don't get pushed out if you accidentally pull the brake.
I'm glad I found this video. I own a 2017 Neo1 and have always used it with a 2016 Giant Defy with 135mm QR dropouts. Having finally bought a 12mm through axle bike in 2024, I had to buy this T2835 convertor kit. Thanks Shane!
Glad it was helpful! Feel free to let them know that too and where you saw this video. I'm trying to get back on their radar after being demoted from their product release list.
I knew this would be 10x better than any official instruction or manual from Tacx so I went straight here instead ^^ However my local bike shop sold me a (135x10mm) while you are talking about a 142x12mm. I guess the manager of the store should know what he does so I'll still try for my brand new (Specialized Roubaix Expert 2019) that I bought at the same time. Being hydrolic I hope the caliper won't get into the freewheel or any other weird stuff happening so I can train tonight. EDIT: Goddamn store who sold me the wrong size... there was an obvious 1cm gap between the Tacx and my bike, and when I checked the skewer I removed from my rear wheel, it was a (142x12mm) -_-
Thank you! From Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I had all these adapter parts and was super frustrated until I watched your video! Then presto! Back in business on my Tacx with my 2017 Roubaix. Everything is operating happy.
Hi Shane, you’ve infected me with a passion for cycling, got my first road bike this year and recently even bought KICKR Snap 2017 to experience Zwift world! Awesome stuff - keep going!!! Thanks for inspiration! Greetings from Langley, UK!
Great directions, would suggest modifying and showing the markings on the parts being removed and the new ones. That said, much better than the directions Garmin gave.
If you have a Tacx Neo 2 you could run into a handful of issues if you buy the adapter kit. The parts the were included in the adapter kit did not thread on the Neo 2 but the extra components in the Neo 2 back thread well. Also, he mentions 17mm wrench and a #5 hex tool. Have a 18mm, 19mm, and 20 mm available and other size hex tools available. Maybe it's a US tool box thing, but I had to make several runs to the hardware store to have the correct tools (which thankfully i do now)
I was just about to buy this trainer as it popped up in stock on a website finally. Then i realised i'd have to buy a £50 thru axle converter plus a cassette. Nope.
Neo 2 has two adapters for the most common sizes. But since there are more than twenty types of axles in both length and thickness, the simulator manufacturers did not include all possible options so as not to increase the trainer cost excessively.
The nut on the drive side I’ve de threaded some how. I re tapped it & now it’s too big. The thru axle set seems to be sold out all over the world probably due to Covid. I’m screwed until my quick release bike arrives in about a month. What is that drive side bolt called?
So, here is the thing! I do own a 3T Exploro Primo, with its oh so innovative Hang Loose derailleur hanger. Neither Garmin nor 3T can tell me if it is working with the conversion kit. They suggested me to buy one of the new trainers that use through axles from the beginning. Garmin today sent me a conversion kit to try it out for free and I will update you if someone is interested in that. But what I did not figure out from the video is: how is the end plug on the drivetrain side screwed in? Is it just the on the spanner axle and then pressed together? If so, that would probably mean, that it will not work… :-(
Great video, I tried installing my 2020 Salsa Warbird on Tacx Neo 2. I think it is impossible. The Salsa Warbird has a derailleur hanger that is center mounted to the through axle. There is a kind of endcap to be removed in order to attach the Tacx adaptors, but then the derailleur hanger is no longer rigidly attached to frame.
Maybe you can use a Robert Axle Trainer Adapter. Focus has for example the R.A.T. Thru Axle that makes it impossible to install the bike on a Smarttrainer without one of these Adapters.
As a warning from someone who purchased a kickr16 with thru axle conversion, make sure that the end plug that sits in the drive side is the correct size. My Canyon was allowed to move a couple of mm when out the saddle causing creaks. Luckily, contacting Wahoo support, they have kindly sent me a kickr17 which is due in a couple of days.
Hi, I fitted the supplied 12mm axle conversion to my tacx neo but neither of the supplied end caps that screw into my frame will go in, obviously didn’t want to force them in.
4:12 is it ok that the fitting isn't threaded? A blunt fitting in the threads of the frame seems like it might burr out the threads of the frame, was worried but guess that's what it is...
Surprised no-one has asked about the way that the adapter clamps the drive side of the bike from the outside, what is the consensus on clamping this way and the potential for scratches and/or crushing the frame?
Hi Shane, hope this message reaches you. I effectively installed the right adapters, but after tigthening there is still mocement on the non drive side. Bike used is a SWorks Shiv. I am scared the frame will be damaged. Any advice?
Shane, my wife and I elected to use our old bikes on the trainer to eliminate the wear and tear on our expensive bikes. Our new bikes are TA, thus we decided to forego the TA conversion. Your thoughts on not using the good bike on the trainer for wear and tear reasons. Pros and cons.
Over the years my bike(s) have had more wear and tear outside than in. And I do a LOT of rides inside. Pros of a dedicated bike on the trainer: It's always on the trainer ready to go. Cons: It's not your main bike.
I just bought a second hand Tacx Neo and while installing the kit I found that the previous owner overtightened the drive-side nut. Now is stuck and since is made of aluminium and only has the possibility to be removed with the allen key now it is impossible to get out. Any ideas?
@@gplama Thanks, Tacx told me to take it to a bike shop... No time for that, I took a screwdriver and a hammer to make a dent in the external nut following the "Ultimate Handyman" RUclips advise and voila came out. Bad idea from Tacx to put an aluminium nut with an allen screw nut. Fortunately, the new kit comes with a hexagonal nut.
Amazing, contacted Garmin Product Support and in one day I received a new set of Tacx Direct Drive Block Caps for free. 5 stars for their customer support!
Do you know of any issue with Giant TCR frame? With my Canyon Ultimate I used to mount the non-conical part of the adpter but with Giant TCR seems to be to long and the frame results not locked in. The conical bit seems to be right in length but it has a conical base and I'm worring that it could damage the frame when locking.
Do you see any downsides using this with og Neo and Cervelo Aspero? There might be clearance issue with long cage derailleur and 11-36 cassette at least. I saw someone in ww's forum damaging his thru-axle Trek with this adapter.
This video is way better than Garmin's. Question though ... when I put the flat cap on, it doesn't sit flush with my frame ... it's too long, seemingly, which means the frame is loose. Is there supposed to be an additional spacer?
can you please Help me? i have a taxc flux s and my new bike has a thru axle and i have no idea what i need to make it fit. The websites are very vague
Hello man, I just installed this axe on my tacx flux. I have a specialized tarmac sl7, but unfortunately, on the opposit side of the cassett, my frame are not good fixed. I have a little gab and my frame move and it will fore sure make some break on my frame. Do you have a solution ? Thanks
I’ve got a BMC Timemachine road, it has flat end thru axle so no quick release is there a special adapter for this? I just don’t want to put the quick release on the frame. If that makes sense
Thanks for the great video! I got my bike attached and it feels solid. The only thing I'm wondering about is if that nothing actually screws into the threads on the frame (where the thru-axle attaches) and the plug only threads onto the adapter pin, won't the weight rest on the threads in the frame, possibly damaging them?
@@gplama So the new adapter pin is without threads and the adapter just has a hole for it and the threads are on the outside? That was pretty much what I expected before I bought the adapters. It must be pretty new since it apparently hasn't replaced the ones in stock yet (bought it this week)
First of all, great video! Does anyone have any experience with using a quick-release bike on the already converted trainer? Is that possible? My wife is considering buying a through-axle bike and i have a quick-release one. It would be great to use those on the same tacx flux without having to convert the trainer back and forth.
Hi Shane, do you know a possibility of interchanging between thru and ordinary axel faster? Like with a third party kit? My wife has a thru bike, I have a Standard the change is a bit of a nightmare to do regularly. Thanks for advise.
I'm thinking of buying my wife a new bike and don't want to get her discs because of this very reason as we share the trainer a lot. How did you get on?
Hey mate, a recent N+1 meant I was looking to find out what part I needed for running a thru axle bike on the Neo. Just as an FYI Tacx looks to have taken down the support page you've linked to
Hi Shane, I recently bought a Scott Foil disc, and I find difficult to use with Tacx Neo 2. Can you indicate what adaptors used? Many thanks, Davide. (sorry for my bad English)
Shane, is it ok to just use the (thicker) thru axle from my bike instead of the skewer from the Garmin kit? Seems I would not need the little "plugs" on both ends as the bike axle just screws directly into the frame
@@gplama Just to clarify: 1. Still need to replace the "adapters" (the aluminium pieces that screw into the trainer)? 2. But can use the bike thru axle (and don't need the Garming skewer and plastic "plugs")? Did I get that right? It is for a Neo 2 (not 2T).
Shane any help would be appreciated. 1. Any idea how to make it work with Mavic speed release axles? None of the supplied threaded adaptors are the same thread pitch. 2. On the disc side with the quick release. You said choose the “plunger” thing based on the axle that comes out of your bike but what I can take from the manual says the flat one is for 135 and coned is for 142. Just want to make sure I’m using the right stuff
After battling for over an hour I cannot get my 2019 TCR advanced Pro 1, using the tacx thru axle adapter to fit correctly. It appears the adapter is too wide and does not sit flush against the frame. Either I need to get washers or I need to cut the adapter on the non drive side.
Thanks for the video, but if you mount like you did on the carbon frame, you will damage frame somehow it on the other side, because you are mounting screw direct on the frame. I have Specialized carbon bike, and there is not possible to use this adapter, I need to use the original true axle adapter and it works, cannot use this quick mount adapter.
@@cjohnson913 On the tax trainer you cannot. And the diameter of the inside mechanism going through the trainer is much smaller than the axle. I’ve been back-and-forth with TAX There is no solution with those trainers the new wahoo trainer allows you to use your current through axle though
I bought the Tacx Flux S and used it with my QR bike. Now I want to convert it to my thru-axle bike and there ware two adapters in the original package (the ones you screwed onto the trainer). Do I need to buy this new thru-axle now or is it possible to use the standard thru-axle that just comes with your bike?
The part you threaded into the trainer on the non drive side makes it too wife for my bike to fit on, however if I use the other the tapered piece won't slide into place as it is blocked, what do I do?
Hi Shane, hopefully you can help me out with this. I have a Flux S and when trying to install the conversion kit I could see the new parts for the trainer's axle ends (the first ones you change in the video, where the bike frame will sit on later on) were not compatible. After some further research I discover from Tacx documentation that the Flux S trainers were produced using two types of axles (Type 1 and Type 2) and these vary in diameter. If I understood correctly this adapting kit only matches Type 1. Do you know any similar cases? Any guidance you can share? Thank you very much. Cheers from Barcelona!
Will this work for the cycleops? I just bought a Fezzari empire SL pro race and did not realize I wouldn’t be able to use my smart trainer due to the through axel…
From memory, the Hammer units have always supported thru-axle. Unless there's an incompatibility with your specific frame. One to ping to Saris support.
How is this set compatible with 148x12? Are there some aditional elements (washers (?)) included that were not shown in the video? Tacx states that T2835 id for both 142 and 148 mm 12 mm axles, but resellers do not mention the 148 mm option.
So the ONLY way it will work is that it squeezes the 148 frame down 3mm each side to fit the 148 boost rear end. They don’t make a 6mm bigger set of thread in adaptors. I mounted my carbon 148 frame up and it certainly does squeeze it together. I can’t imagine the pinch stress is good. Imagine aluminum! CMON TACX!
I likewise had to put the squeeze on my frame to go from 148mm down to the adapter’s 142. This also threw out the calibration on my derailleur, so I had to adjust the limits.
I have a Cannondale SuperSix EVO ultegra. The hanger is double-lead (double threading). I finding I can't mount it on the Tacx Flux 2 because the hanger won't be compatible with the axel adapter. Any experience with this?
Hmmm. No. Ping Tacx Support on this one. They should have an answer. (I've met the support team a number of times. They're awesome. I hope they're still on the case after Garmin took them over)
Hi Shane, my Norco has a different 12x142 setup on the drive side. It's a steel frame and the thru axle screws into a threaded captive nut on the drive side. The supplied 12x142 converter on my Flux doesn't reach thru this nut, and it has a hex end (rather than the exposed thru axle thread like in your video) to undo it...and i think it's integral to the hanger. Any suggestions?
Does anyone know if the thru axle adapter kit from the tacx neo 2 is compatible with the tacx neo 1? The adapter for the neo 1 is more than twice as expensive for some reason.
One for Garmin/Tacx support. At present they no longer support what I do here on this channel (actively stopping me from reviewing thier new products) so my time spent assisting their customers is limited. I hope this will change in the near future.
G'day John. It's difficult to know what's going on here. I'd suggest taking a few photos and having Tacx Support have a look at it. Also join the Flux owners group over on Facebook. Community groups are really handy for crowed sourcing help from all around the world (and usually any time of the day too).
Kind of late reply, but the kit now comes with 3 additional threaded "optional adapters" (1.0, 1.5, and 1.75mm thread) and also a white o-ring. Using the M12x1.0 threaded adapter with the o-ring means that the o-ring is providing softer contact against the paint on the drive side (I would still put some sort of protective sticker (helicopter tape) on the bike to protect the paint). Theoretically this should minimize clamping against the bike frame (since it uses the threads on the drive side for clamping force instead of the surface of the adapter).
I have a question: I use the Tacx Neo 2T and I use the thru-axle from my Bike directly (142x12). Is that correct or should I use the adapter kit? But the thru axle itself works good? I am not sure and don't want to damage it.
@@gplama OK perfect thanks, I saw a lot of videos on RUclips probably only from the 2 and not the 2T where they used those adapter Kits and was not quite sure about that. Thanks again for the answer, so I can use my thru axle from the bike without worries
@@gplama Hi Shane, I'm new to the Neo2T world, and first thing I noticed is that my disc brakes rub in the Neo2T case. So I added the spacer, but now the thru-axle doesn't go all the way to the other side. When the wheel is on, the thru-axel goes until the end - when mounted in the trainer, there is now a 3-4mm gap in the other side. Wouldn't that potentially damage the bike frame?
@@gplamaYeah, I understand and it makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to respond. There is a thread on the "Tacx NEO 2T" forum at foruns.garmin.com where I pasted a few pics (I understand if you don't go there to check it since RUclips doesn't accept pics on comments).
@@gplama thanks, appreciate it. Typical the Garmin site only lists it compatible with the NEO2, FLUX2 and FLUXS. I've got one on the way for my OG and will report back .
Can confirm, the TA kit supplied with a NEO2 fits my Neo OG trainer. Seems to be a 142x12 kit with 3 thread pitches so choose the right one for your bike. Even better mine is a Specialized Diverge 2016 Comp carbon with their crazy 'SCS' thru axle (around 137mm) which it fits fine without needing to move the caliper. I've fitted 142mm wheels to this frame with no issue so didn't expect one - but thought the caliper may rub. Bonus! 😁
GP lama, still having difficulty with the conversion. I’ve got an Izalco 2019, fitted with the RAT through axle. It’s got a different fitting on the cassette side, and the nut doesn’t sit flush when screwed in. Can you help? Cheers from one BALLARAT boy to another
Shane, just wondering if that's an 11 speed cassette? I ask as on mine there's insufficient clearance between the chain and the stay, on yours it looks fine. I've tried refitting the cassette, Tacx are proposing to send me a different hub which might fix. Cheers
Hi Shane, I'm 15 and in Melbourne. I am looking to get into zwift mainly because I hate cycling on the roads. I'm trying to decide between the Kickr Snap and the Vortex Smart. I know there is a big price difference but do you think that the extra $200 is worth it? Keep up the great work.
G'day mate. If you can stretch the budget, go for the SNAP. It has a bigger flywheel that'll be perfect for when you start cranking out massive Wattbombs!
First I've heard of it. There's no threading with this adapter.....so stripping of the threads is impossible. Maybe it'd blunt them if the bike is smashing around incorrectly on the adapter? Not sure.
You say there's no threading with this adapter, but at 4:14 on your video you say "we screw that in to the other side"... That's threading into the bike, isn't it? There are 3 different thread pitches used on bicycle thru axles- 1.0mm, 1.5mm & 1.75mm, that adapter component you are screwing in at 4:14 in the video obviously can have only one of those pitches. Or is it only threading to the QR skewer and making it look in the video that it's threading into the frame? I've been back and forth with Tacx for several days now, can't get a straight answer out of them, hoping to find info elsewhere.
Does anyone here know if there's an adapter for the 148x12 thru axle? Shane? (I'm the guy whose son has the same name as you do, remember me??) Anyone?
@@gplama Thanks Shane. I've just bought one from a guy in Bendigo as new and it's really as new. Came fitted with QR caps, skewer buy no 142. I can put a spare bike with QR on it but prefer my thru axle bike. Seller fitted a new 105 cassette so that's a plus. Flywheel feels decent.
Kind of late update (Jan 2024), but the "newer" kit comes with 3 additional threaded drive side "optional adapters" (1.0, 1.5, and 1.75mm thread) and also a white o-ring. Using the M12x1.0 threaded adapter with the o-ring on my Tarmac SL7 means that the o-ring is providing softer contact against the paint on the drive side (I would still put some sort of protective sticker (helicopter tape) on the bike to protect the paint). Theoretically this should minimize clamping against the bike frame (since it uses the threads on the drive side for clamping force instead of the surface of the adapter). Alleviating concerns regarding paint scratch from clamping against the frame on drive side.
If you're using hydraulic brakes, it's also worth it to stick something like a folded up business card into the caliper where the disc would be. This is so the pistons don't get pushed out if you accidentally pull the brake.
Eli Douek good tip that 👍
@@redgefour6729 Yes, this is a very good idea, because otherwise it will be difficult to separate the pads later.
I'm glad I found this video. I own a 2017 Neo1 and have always used it with a 2016 Giant Defy with 135mm QR dropouts. Having finally bought a 12mm through axle bike in 2024, I had to buy this T2835 convertor kit. Thanks Shane!
This is super helpful since the Tacx documentation and video isn’t as understandable as yours. Cheers!
Thanks! This was wauore informative and accurate than the absolutely useless and incorrect "instructions" from Garmin.
Glad it was helpful! Feel free to let them know that too and where you saw this video. I'm trying to get back on their radar after being demoted from their product release list.
I knew this would be 10x better than any official instruction or manual from Tacx so I went straight here instead ^^ However my local bike shop sold me a (135x10mm) while you are talking about a 142x12mm. I guess the manager of the store should know what he does so I'll still try for my brand new (Specialized Roubaix Expert 2019) that I bought at the same time. Being hydrolic I hope the caliper won't get into the freewheel or any other weird stuff happening so I can train tonight.
EDIT: Goddamn store who sold me the wrong size... there was an obvious 1cm gap between the Tacx and my bike, and when I checked the skewer I removed from my rear wheel, it was a (142x12mm) -_-
Thank you! From Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I had all these adapter parts and was super frustrated until I watched your video! Then presto! Back in business on my Tacx with my 2017 Roubaix. Everything is operating happy.
Awesome video, after nearly 3 years I forgot which bits went where when changing bikes over today.
Hi Shane, you’ve infected me with a passion for cycling, got my first road bike this year and recently even bought KICKR Snap 2017 to experience Zwift world! Awesome stuff - keep going!!!
Thanks for inspiration!
Greetings from Langley, UK!
Thanks Shane. Clear concise and provided the answers I needed. Also you used my local "The Ride" bike store. Great people there.
Very useful video, thanks. The commentary adds a lot, versus the "official" Tacx video.
Great directions, would suggest modifying and showing the markings on the parts being removed and the new ones. That said, much better than the directions Garmin gave.
If you have a Tacx Neo 2 you could run into a handful of issues if you buy the adapter kit. The parts the were included in the adapter kit did not thread on the Neo 2 but the extra components in the Neo 2 back thread well. Also, he mentions 17mm wrench and a #5 hex tool. Have a 18mm, 19mm, and 20 mm available and other size hex tools available. Maybe it's a US tool box thing, but I had to make several runs to the hardware store to have the correct tools (which thankfully i do now)
This thru axle adapter should have been included with the Neo, instead of paying $80 odd dollars plus shipping 🤔
Yep. Totally agree
Agree as well. Just bought one for my new Disc bike.
I was just about to buy this trainer as it popped up in stock on a website finally. Then i realised i'd have to buy a £50 thru axle converter plus a cassette. Nope.
Yeah it should have. Rip off.
Neo 2 has two adapters for the most common sizes. But since there are more than twenty types of axles in both length and thickness, the simulator manufacturers did not include all possible options so as not to increase the trainer cost excessively.
Thank you SO much. This is super helpful. Cheers from Argentina🇦🇷🇦🇺
Thanks! Will install one of these later today. This video will help me to understand the installation, many thanks.
Just remember the newer Neo 2T has native thru-axle, so the process for those is a little different.
@@gplama ok! I have the first "neo 1" so should work i guess
great video! wouldn't know how to do this without this video tbh :)))
Thanks for the video I was lost with all the spare parts included with tacx neo 2!
Thank you! This video saved me hours of frustration!!!
Legend Shane you just helped me setup my new Flux! :)
Excellent! Enjoy.
Shane Miller - GPLama will do might see you on Zwift some time!
The nut on the drive side I’ve de threaded some how. I re tapped it & now it’s too big. The thru axle set seems to be sold out all over the world probably due to Covid.
I’m screwed until my quick release bike arrives in about a month. What is that drive side bolt called?
Got this working with my 2021 Aeroad. Thank you @gplama
Thank you Shane! This was very helpful for my installation. Best wishes!!!
So, here is the thing! I do own a 3T Exploro Primo, with its oh so innovative Hang Loose derailleur hanger. Neither Garmin nor 3T can tell me if it is working with the conversion kit. They suggested me to buy one of the new trainers that use through axles from the beginning. Garmin today sent me a conversion kit to try it out for free and I will update you if someone is interested in that. But what I did not figure out from the video is: how is the end plug on the drivetrain side screwed in? Is it just the on the spanner axle and then pressed together? If so, that would probably mean, that it will not work… :-(
Super helpful, even in 2021
Video is more helpful than the garmin one
Thank you. Very clear and helpful
Great video, I tried installing my 2020 Salsa Warbird on Tacx Neo 2. I think it is impossible. The Salsa Warbird has a derailleur hanger that is center mounted to the through axle. There is a kind of endcap to be removed in order to attach the Tacx adaptors, but then the derailleur hanger is no longer rigidly attached to frame.
Maybe you can use a Robert Axle Trainer Adapter. Focus has for example the R.A.T. Thru Axle that makes it impossible to install the bike on a Smarttrainer without one of these Adapters.
As a warning from someone who purchased a kickr16 with thru axle conversion, make sure that the end plug that sits in the drive side is the correct size. My Canyon was allowed to move a couple of mm when out the saddle causing creaks.
Luckily, contacting Wahoo support, they have kindly sent me a kickr17 which is due in a couple of days.
Pumping them out, Goodonyah Shane.
These are good ones to do. I learn, viewers learn, I get to go to the bike shop..... I end up spending $400 at the bike shop. Happy days! :)
Thank you, made set up easy, the Tacx docs are not intuitive. Thanks again!
Hi, Thanks for the video. Tacx provide a 142X12 mm and a 135X10 mm adaptors. Are they the same? Do the adaptor contains all the options?
Hi, I fitted the supplied 12mm axle conversion to my tacx neo but neither of the supplied end caps that screw into my frame will go in, obviously didn’t want to force them in.
4:12 is it ok that the fitting isn't threaded? A blunt fitting in the threads of the frame seems like it might burr out the threads of the frame, was worried but guess that's what it is...
This is a while old now. The new adapters are threaded.
@@gplama Cheers for the reply, the one I got today 25/3/2020 isn't threaded -_-
I wonder what people did before youtube. I did not understand the Tacx instructions at all.
Surprised no-one has asked about the way that the adapter clamps the drive side of the bike from the outside, what is the consensus on clamping this way and the potential for scratches and/or crushing the frame?
It looks like the kit (not shown in the video) has a drive side that screws into the drive side dropout. Would this work with Mavic Speed Release?
One for Garmin/Tacx support. I have no idea what Mavic Speed Release is.
@@gplama it is the thru axle system used on the Systemsix
Chapeau. Great video.
Hi Shane, hope this message reaches you. I effectively installed the right adapters, but after tigthening there is still mocement on the non drive side. Bike used is a SWorks Shiv. I am scared the frame will be damaged. Any advice?
So its possible to drive with disc brake bike on a neo 1, the adapters can put in place?
Shane, my wife and I elected to use our old bikes on the trainer to eliminate the wear and tear on our expensive bikes. Our new bikes are TA, thus we decided to forego the TA conversion. Your thoughts on not using the good bike on the trainer for wear and tear reasons. Pros and cons.
Over the years my bike(s) have had more wear and tear outside than in. And I do a LOT of rides inside. Pros of a dedicated bike on the trainer: It's always on the trainer ready to go. Cons: It's not your main bike.
I just bought a second hand Tacx Neo and while installing the kit I found that the previous owner overtightened the drive-side nut. Now is stuck and since is made of aluminium and only has the possibility to be removed with the allen key now it is impossible to get out. Any ideas?
One for Tacx Support
@@gplama Thanks, Tacx told me to take it to a bike shop... No time for that, I took a screwdriver and a hammer to make a dent in the external nut following the "Ultimate Handyman" RUclips advise and voila came out.
Bad idea from Tacx to put an aluminium nut with an allen screw nut. Fortunately, the new kit comes with a hexagonal nut.
Amazing, contacted Garmin Product Support and in one day I received a new set of Tacx Direct Drive Block Caps for free.
5 stars for their customer support!
Do you know of any issue with Giant TCR frame? With my Canyon Ultimate I used to mount the non-conical part of the adpter but with Giant TCR seems to be to long and the frame results not locked in. The conical bit seems to be right in length but it has a conical base and I'm worring that it could damage the frame when locking.
This was super helpful!! Thanks!!
Do you see any downsides using this with og Neo and Cervelo Aspero? There might be clearance issue with long cage derailleur and 11-36 cassette at least. I saw someone in ww's forum damaging his thru-axle Trek with this adapter.
This video is way better than Garmin's. Question though ... when I put the flat cap on, it doesn't sit flush with my frame ... it's too long, seemingly, which means the frame is loose. Is there supposed to be an additional spacer?
Hmm. Not sure. The manual should have the details of all parts/spacers and where they’re to be used.
I have the same issue. Using a giant tcx. Don’t get it tight. Anyone with a solution?
can you please Help me? i have a taxc flux s and my new bike has a thru axle and i have no idea what i need to make it fit. The websites are very vague
Hello man,
I just installed this axe on my tacx flux. I have a specialized tarmac sl7, but unfortunately, on the opposit side of the cassett, my frame are not good fixed. I have a little gab and my frame move and it will fore sure make some break on my frame. Do you have a solution ?
Thanks
a question please -the NEO works with RAT axles? (Cervelo, Focus, etc) - thank you!!!
Contact Tacx Support for their offical line on RAT compatibility
I’ve got a BMC Timemachine road, it has flat end thru axle so no quick release is there a special adapter for this? I just don’t want to put the quick release on the frame. If that makes sense
Thanks for the great video! I got my bike attached and it feels solid. The only thing I'm wondering about is if that nothing actually screws into the threads on the frame (where the thru-axle attaches) and the plug only threads onto the adapter pin, won't the weight rest on the threads in the frame, possibly damaging them?
The newer drive side adapter is threaded. Ping Tacx/Garmin support to see if you can source one of those for your setup.
@@gplama So the new adapter pin is without threads and the adapter just has a hole for it and the threads are on the outside? That was pretty much what I expected before I bought the adapters. It must be pretty new since it apparently hasn't replaced the ones in stock yet (bought it this week)
First of all, great video! Does anyone have any experience with using a quick-release bike on the already converted trainer? Is that possible? My wife is considering buying a through-axle bike and i have a quick-release one. It would be great to use those on the same tacx flux without having to convert the trainer back and forth.
Not possible as the width is different. 142 vs 130.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Hi Shane, do you know a possibility of interchanging between thru and ordinary axel faster? Like with a third party kit? My wife has a thru bike, I have a Standard the change is a bit of a nightmare to do regularly. Thanks for advise.
I'm thinking of buying my wife a new bike and don't want to get her discs because of this very reason as we share the trainer a lot. How did you get on?
Hey mate, a recent N+1 meant I was looking to find out what part I needed for running a thru axle bike on the Neo. Just as an FYI Tacx looks to have taken down the support page you've linked to
Hi Shane, I recently bought a Scott Foil disc, and I find difficult to use with Tacx Neo 2. Can you indicate what adaptors used? Many thanks, Davide. (sorry for my bad English)
Hi, i have a tacx flux with BMC bike how can i fix it with 142 12mm axle? Because there is no whole on the other side of the axle?
Not compatible
Shane, is it ok to just use the (thicker) thru axle from my bike instead of the skewer from the Garmin kit? Seems I would not need the little "plugs" on both ends as the bike axle just screws directly into the frame
The newer versions of this trainer don’t need this kit. They’re designed to use your own thru axle.
@@gplama Just to clarify:
1. Still need to replace the "adapters" (the aluminium pieces that screw into the trainer)?
2. But can use the bike thru axle (and don't need the Garming skewer and plastic "plugs")?
Did I get that right? It is for a Neo 2 (not 2T).
Shane any help would be appreciated.
1. Any idea how to make it work with Mavic speed release axles? None of the supplied threaded adaptors are the same thread pitch.
2. On the disc side with the quick release. You said choose the “plunger” thing based on the axle that comes out of your bike but what I can take from the manual says the flat one is for 135 and coned is for 142. Just want to make sure I’m using the right stuff
I'm useless here sorry. I have no idea what Mavic speed release axles are. Best ping Tacx Support on these.
After battling for over an hour I cannot get my 2019 TCR advanced Pro 1, using the tacx thru axle adapter to fit correctly. It appears the adapter is too wide and does not sit flush against the frame. Either I need to get washers or I need to cut the adapter on the non drive side.
Hi Rory - did you solve this problem? I’m just about to go through the same with a TCR. Thanks.
Thanks for the video, but if you mount like you did on the carbon frame, you will damage frame somehow it on the other side, because you are mounting screw direct on the frame. I have Specialized carbon bike, and there is not possible to use this adapter, I need to use the original true axle adapter and it works, cannot use this quick mount adapter.
I’m having the exact same problem with my new tarmac I can’t find a single trainer that it will actually work with
@@ryanbrown7240 like dude just said, use your bikes thru axle. That's what the latest Garmin/tacx video shows to do. Makes sense to me.
@@cjohnson913 On the tax trainer you cannot. And the diameter of the inside mechanism going through the trainer is much smaller than the axle. I’ve been back-and-forth with TAX
There is no solution with those trainers the new wahoo trainer allows you to use your current through axle though
I bought the Tacx Flux S and used it with my QR bike. Now I want to convert it to my thru-axle bike and there ware two adapters in the original package (the ones you screwed onto the trainer). Do I need to buy this new thru-axle now or is it possible to use the standard thru-axle that just comes with your bike?
I don't recall if the FLUX S has native thru-axle or requires an adapter. Best ping Garmin/Tacx support on this one.
@@gplama Thanks for the quick reply 👍🏻
The part you threaded into the trainer on the non drive side makes it too wife for my bike to fit on, however if I use the other the tapered piece won't slide into place as it is blocked, what do I do?
Best contact Garmin/Tacx Support.
Thanks for the clear instructions. The adapter doesnt come with the Neo?
No, the TA adapter is extra.
my Tacx Flux has different sized threads so this kit does not work.... are there any alternatives to this?
One for Garmin Support (who now own/support Tacx products).
Hi Shane, hopefully you can help me out with this. I have a Flux S and when trying to install the conversion kit I could see the new parts for the trainer's axle ends (the first ones you change in the video, where the bike frame will sit on later on) were not compatible. After some further research I discover from Tacx documentation that the Flux S trainers were produced using two types of axles (Type 1 and Type 2) and these vary in diameter. If I understood correctly this adapting kit only matches Type 1. Do you know any similar cases? Any guidance you can share? Thank you very much. Cheers from Barcelona!
It has been too long for me to recall. Best contact Garmin support on this one (They now own Tacx)
Will this work for the cycleops? I just bought a Fezzari empire SL pro race and did not realize I wouldn’t be able to use my smart trainer due to the through axel…
What specific model of CycleOps trainer?
Hammer direct drive smart
From memory, the Hammer units have always supported thru-axle. Unless there's an incompatibility with your specific frame. One to ping to Saris support.
What would I use to get my 2015 S-Works Roubaix to work on the NEO? The rear disk brake is hitting the flywheel. Thanks in advance!
That's one for a local bike shop to throw an eye over. They're the best place to start for solutions for things like this.
How is this set compatible with 148x12? Are there some aditional elements (washers (?)) included that were not shown in the video? Tacx states that T2835 id for both 142 and 148 mm 12 mm axles, but resellers do not mention the 148 mm option.
That's one for Tacx Support. I don't know off the top of my head.
So the ONLY way it will work is that it squeezes the 148 frame down 3mm each side to fit the 148 boost rear end. They don’t make a 6mm bigger set of thread in adaptors. I mounted my carbon 148 frame up and it certainly does squeeze it together. I can’t imagine the pinch stress is good. Imagine aluminum! CMON TACX!
I likewise had to put the squeeze on my frame to go from 148mm down to the adapter’s 142. This also threw out the calibration on my derailleur, so I had to adjust the limits.
Is Neo2T assembly kit compatibile with Flux S, i have type 2 too ?
One for Garmin support. I’m not sure.
I have a Cannondale SuperSix EVO ultegra. The hanger is double-lead (double threading). I finding I can't mount it on the Tacx Flux 2 because the hanger won't be compatible with the axel adapter. Any experience with this?
Hmmm. No. Ping Tacx Support on this one. They should have an answer. (I've met the support team a number of times. They're awesome. I hope they're still on the case after Garmin took them over)
@@gplama Gotcha! I'll get on to them now. Thank you!!
Hi Shane! Any suggestions for using a thru axle bike with an older Lemond Revolution trainer?
There's a few hacks I've seen. Nothing I've looked into or used myself.
How do you know whether or not you need an adaptor or not. Is it fairly obvious
Yes. The latest model (NEO2T) doesn't need this adapter. Your local bike shop should be able to help here if you're stuck.
Hi Shane, my Norco has a different 12x142 setup on the drive side. It's a steel frame and the thru axle screws into a threaded captive nut on the drive side. The supplied 12x142 converter on my Flux doesn't reach thru this nut, and it has a hex end (rather than the exposed thru axle thread like in your video) to undo it...and i think it's integral to the hanger. Any suggestions?
That's one for Tacx Support. No doubt they've seen (and solved) it all for the different TA combinations out there.
T2835 is pretty hard to find. Can model S0040 works for 1st generation of Flux?
One for Tacx Support
Nice where can I get the parts any recommendations
Garmin now own Tacx. Garmin support will be able to assist.
Does anyone know if the thru axle adapter kit from the tacx neo 2 is compatible with the tacx neo 1?
The adapter for the neo 1 is more than twice as expensive for some reason.
One for Garmin/Tacx support. At present they no longer support what I do here on this channel (actively stopping me from reviewing thier new products) so my time spent assisting their customers is limited. I hope this will change in the near future.
You still can't add a Long cage MTB on this trainer? I have read that the long cage would hit the side of the trainer :(
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FIts fine for me
Thank you very much!
Hi I just got the flux and my road bike has disc brakes. It catches on the flux itself when I try to attach it. Do I need a different adaptor?
G'day John. It's difficult to know what's going on here. I'd suggest taking a few photos and having Tacx Support have a look at it. Also join the Flux owners group over on Facebook. Community groups are really handy for crowed sourcing help from all around the world (and usually any time of the day too).
The rear Disc break is touching the neo (2) Trainer, what can I do?
Ping Tacx Support with the details (bike / photos / etc)
Hi shane, will this work for the Cervelo P5x?
is this Thru Axle convertion will fit to my Magene T300? my bike is Disc brake of System sic Cannondale.
No, you'll need to talk to Magene about what the T300 is compatible with.
What would you say is a better trainer for durability and customer service if you could afford just one , wahoo kickr or tacx neo
This may help: gplama.blogspot.com.au/p/indoor-trainer-guide-gplama.html
@GPLama Shane is there anything that would prevent you from using the thru axle that you use outside? Why need a separate skewer with adapters?
(I have a Neo 2T and a cervelo thru quick release axle seems to fit just fine)
I believe the answer to my question lies in the fact that the Neo 2T has thru axle support while the trainers discussed in this video don't
This is an older model that needs an adapter.
So if I have the 12x148 adaptor it will work for 142x12 bikes?
One for Garmin support. I’m not sure of the answer.
@@gplama thanks great video! Will probably buy the whole adapter
Wont it scratch the paint on the drive side?
Exactly, this is my concern, isn't this pinching right on the paint?, thru axels are not made for a quick release to be squeezed on the drive side
Kind of late reply, but the kit now comes with 3 additional threaded "optional adapters" (1.0, 1.5, and 1.75mm thread) and also a white o-ring. Using the M12x1.0 threaded adapter with the o-ring means that the o-ring is providing softer contact against the paint on the drive side (I would still put some sort of protective sticker (helicopter tape) on the bike to protect the paint). Theoretically this should minimize clamping against the bike frame (since it uses the threads on the drive side for clamping force instead of the surface of the adapter).
I have a question: I use the Tacx Neo 2T and I use the thru-axle from my Bike directly (142x12). Is that correct or should I use the adapter kit? But the thru axle itself works good? I am not sure and don't want to damage it.
The 2T uses your bike axle. This is one of the upgrades on that trainer from the Neo 1 & 2.
@@gplama OK perfect thanks, I saw a lot of videos on RUclips probably only from the 2 and not the 2T where they used those adapter Kits and was not quite sure about that. Thanks again for the answer, so I can use my thru axle from the bike without worries
@@gplama Hi Shane, I'm new to the Neo2T world, and first thing I noticed is that my disc brakes rub in the Neo2T case. So I added the spacer, but now the thru-axle doesn't go all the way to the other side. When the wheel is on, the thru-axel goes until the end - when mounted in the trainer, there is now a 3-4mm gap in the other side. Wouldn't that potentially damage the bike frame?
@@gabrielgavasso It really depends. Without seeing it I'm not able to give any useful advice.
@@gplamaYeah, I understand and it makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to respond. There is a thread on the "Tacx NEO 2T" forum at foruns.garmin.com where I pasted a few pics (I understand if you don't go there to check it since RUclips doesn't accept pics on comments).
Hi Shane/everyone, is it the same conversion/adaptor kit for the NEO1 (OG) & NEO2?
I believe so. iirc it was the 2T that first had the 'native' thru-axle with no adapter required.
@@gplama thanks, appreciate it. Typical the Garmin site only lists it compatible with the NEO2, FLUX2 and FLUXS. I've got one on the way for my OG and will report back .
Can confirm, the TA kit supplied with a NEO2 fits my Neo OG trainer. Seems to be a 142x12 kit with 3 thread pitches so choose the right one for your bike. Even better mine is a Specialized Diverge 2016 Comp carbon with their crazy 'SCS' thru axle (around 137mm) which it fits fine without needing to move the caliper. I've fitted 142mm wheels to this frame with no issue so didn't expect one - but thought the caliper may rub. Bonus! 😁
GP lama, still having difficulty with the conversion. I’ve got an Izalco 2019, fitted with the RAT through axle. It’s got a different fitting on the cassette side, and the nut doesn’t sit flush when screwed in. Can you help? Cheers from one BALLARAT boy to another
Best drop into a local bike shop. And cross your fingers. RAT is a pain in the arse for everyone involved. Maybe Tacx Support can help.
@@gplama - I have a cervelo s5 disc 2019 its got a funny fitting also wont work with cervelo rapid axle skewer
Shane, just wondering if that's an 11 speed cassette? I ask as on mine there's insufficient clearance between the chain and the stay, on yours it looks fine. I've tried refitting the cassette, Tacx are proposing to send me a different hub which might fix. Cheers
I believe so... not 100%, this video was a while ago, it's 2am here... eyes are blurry.
Shane Miller - GPLama 😆 thanks- mine is officially gonna have to be replaced for other reasons now
Are thes plates worth the cost 😊
No
Have you heard of any issues with the threads on the frame since the adapter is resting on it?
as an ingenieur i was asking me the same question, an answer from tacx would be great
there is not damage to the paint (derailleur side)?
Trainers and wheels will bang against the dropouts/frame, likely causing chips or scratches in that area. Bikes are tools, it'll happen.
Hi Shane, I'm 15 and in Melbourne. I am looking to get into zwift mainly because I hate cycling on the roads. I'm trying to decide between the Kickr Snap and the Vortex Smart. I know there is a big price difference but do you think that the extra $200 is worth it? Keep up the great work.
G'day mate. If you can stretch the budget, go for the SNAP. It has a bigger flywheel that'll be perfect for when you start cranking out massive Wattbombs!
Apparently the Tacx Thru Axle strips the threads inside Canyon bikes? Any info on this?
First I've heard of it. There's no threading with this adapter.....so stripping of the threads is impossible. Maybe it'd blunt them if the bike is smashing around incorrectly on the adapter? Not sure.
have you more information about this issue
You say there's no threading with this adapter, but at 4:14 on your video you say "we screw that in to the other side"... That's threading into the bike, isn't it? There are 3 different thread pitches used on bicycle thru axles- 1.0mm, 1.5mm & 1.75mm, that adapter component you are screwing in at 4:14 in the video obviously can have only one of those pitches. Or is it only threading to the QR skewer and making it look in the video that it's threading into the frame? I've been back and forth with Tacx for several days now, can't get a straight answer out of them, hoping to find info elsewhere.
hello , thanks for the vid , how do u know which axle kit you need . i just bought the tacx neo smart and totally lost :(
Contact Tacx Support or your local supplier.
Shane Miller why u picked the 142 over the 135
Because that was compatible with the bike I installed on the trainer.
Does anyone here know if there's an adapter for the 148x12 thru axle? Shane? (I'm the guy whose son has the same name as you do, remember me??)
Anyone?
Just a small remark, you're using a cone wrench, those are not made to tighten bolts, you'll ruin the wrenches.
Good call. Also not my tools, so we're good. :)
Remind me (when you're ever in Belgium), not lending you any tools :))
Shane is this compatible to the first tacx flux versions?
The FLUX will require the same adapter to support thru-axle.
Dies the flux 2 ship with 142 adapters?
I believe the latest Flux 2 (aka the 2.1) has native thru-axle. I have one somewhere in a box here to review.... that I haven't opened yet.
@@gplama Thanks Shane. I've just bought one from a guy in Bendigo as new and it's really as new. Came fitted with QR caps, skewer buy no 142. I can put a spare bike with QR on it but prefer my thru axle bike. Seller fitted a new 105 cassette so that's a plus. Flywheel feels decent.
and what to do when you have a focus / cervelo rat thru axle
Contact Tacx support as I don’t know