Why I Bought a Super Lightweight Bike (& I'm not a climber!?)
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It's not often you come across a fully functioning road bike frame that weighs only 0.715KG. With the Factor 02 VAM that is certainly the case. It will definitely be the lightest bike I have even ridden, once it's been built up. However, to get the ball rolling, in this video I will share with you three reasons I have have purchased this super lightweight climbing bike, when I don't consider myself a climber. Additionally I will share an update about the Winspace bike project.
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Factor: when cost isn't one.
True - but this joke works with just all brands out there today
The name itself is the only 'factor' that attempts to justify the price tag. Gucci bike.
@@danielmacdonald4005 specialized, Pinarello - so that’s the Chanel and Louis Vuitton bikes then?
@@matthiaskettner6686 at a certain price point, yes. They have lower end models where you will find 'value'for money but at the top end you pay a big premium no? €10.000 is extortion for a bicycle.
@@danielmacdonald4005 £10 or 12k is perfectly reasonable, you make your choice you pay your money.
I liked this channel before, but you said you still want to ride time breaks...WOW.
I love you for saying it.
You pull the lever, they brake. You see the pads are worn...you replace them.
Cables making issues...you replace them. That's it!
No hydraulics, no melting aluminium, no squealing.
I am sure disc brakes perform better, but for me rim brakes are good enough and everything (!) else just seems to be in their favor.
So I am sticking with brakes and I am happy with them!
The Giro/TdeF/Veulta were all won with riders using rim brakes !
I don’t trust anyone who isn’t paid thousands of dollars by the manufacturers to promote their product.
Best of luck with the project Cam,unfortunately most of Europe is in lockdown so we are envious of you guys.
I rented a Factor at TDU in 2019, and like it so much that I bought one. Zero regrets. Still waiting to experience some of these disc brake 'issues' that people talk about (I've got both).
I've had nothing but disc brake bikes for over 3 years now and I can't remember a single issue I've ever had. I honestly think it just comes down to you either have experience with them or you don't. If you have experience, discs are no more of a faff than rim brakes. But if you don't have any experience with them, its definitely very easy to mess something up/not set them up properly (like squeezing levers while wheels are out of bike, not using spacer block, etc.)
Installation was quick and easy. It doesn't make a whole lot of noise, and it's worth every cent.
I can give you some predictions based of my experiences.
I found that racing crits on the a climbing bike I was actually working harder than I was on the standard crit pig (Giant TCR which really isn't a pig tbh). The loss of the extra kilo meant that I lost mass which result in a loss a momentum. Something extremely useful when rolling in the bunch. the momentum loss means you need have to surge and maintain that momentum or rubber band the whole race. you'll notice it.
Interesting to hear David, thanks for sharing. Cam
Yes there is some truth to that... I have a 2015 supersixevo HM that's at 14.9lbs and an 2019 Allez at 15.10lbs. I definitely feel its less work to get up to speed and hold it on the heavier bike but on the hills you do feel the lighter weight bike is easier. Weird 🤷🏾♂️
@@kyungi1 that's only 90g difference!!! Maybe you could tell the difference from the shape of the frame, but I really don't think it can be because of 90g.
@@vivaaloha2020
Update since changing my crank and tires/tube combination the weight difference is like about 2lbs. I have had this setup for months now but figured it would still be around the same weight.
The actual difference I am feeling may be the weight distribution between the two bikes. It's like taking a heavy frame bike aka the allez and having light weight components vs supersix with a feathery light weight frame and light weight components. Even at "Similar weights" and components they are going to feel very different especially on hills/flats and sprinting. But... surely 2lbs is no big difference in an industry that says a $600
ospw can save you 6 watts🤣🤣🤣
Looking forward to seeing the results of these projects. Love the channel. Thanks for your efforts.
Appreciate the transparency Cam.
Rob gets social media better than any other CEO who supplies WT teams.
Rim brakes FTW!
PS: 78kg is light enough to win any hill race in Oz you would be doing.
I need more power then!
Hi...luv the rim brakes I bought a new TCR SL with rim brakes..maybe Factor and Giant are the Only 2 left 😃
I did the same think they will be the last rim brake unfortunately
@@3rdcatchopper408 I truly get the disk thing off road but for me I will stick with what I'm happy with...👍
when I bought my tcr it was £700 more for rim brakes
@@meneldil7604 dam...it's more here in UK for disk 🤔
@@davidpinckney5595 I am in the UK it was my local giant dealer the disc brake version use there hybrid brake system as well which is fine till it needs bleedin
I believe THM parts suit that frame....and the RUclips budget 😁....with Di2 and or SRAM Red etap...
Wooooow love that frame!! Keep the vids coming! Thanks for the content!!
The vision you have for the Factor O2 VAM is exactly what I want from a bike but the polar opposite of what is being offered by the vast majority of the market currently. Rim brakes because they’re light, simple, and they work well in Australian conditions. Lightweight because I know an extra 1-2kg will slow me down uphill and also the aero advantage of an aero bike is small. If 80% of CdA is the rider itself, not the bike, then wear a road suit for aero gains and keep the lightweight bike. Say the aero frame is 20% more aero than the lightweight frame, then 20% x 20% = only 4% improvement in the CdA if the overall bike/rider system. Not worth the weight penalty.
Even if rider %80 there's only so much position gains an amateur can make. And if you really cared about rider cda then you'd all be riding with aero bars. Which I even did in my gravel bike hah
Been watching for awhile but funnily enough I just built up this exact frameset even same colour and size. My final build came in at 6.3kg riding weight with pedals cages and Garmin mount. Ended up running sram axs 1x with a 44t up front and 10-36 at the back. Loving it so far. Might switch to 2x but not sure yet. Enjoy the build and the ride!
Nice 👍
Go super lightweight to truly compliment your O2, looking forward on your next update👍
I don’t quite know why but the Factor 02 has always appealed to me as a bike I’d like to ride/own, so look forward to your progress with yours.
More and more cyclists (racers too) I know have purchased Factor bikes...looking forward to seeing the bike when you’re done with it... 🍻
Much prefer your videos to a lot online just on the basis your honest and upfront. Too many people get lost in some channels, not paying attention to the "paid promotion"
At least you keep it real 👌 keep up the good work
A light groupset for crit racing? Get a 1x Sram etap, Force or Red. With for example 48T up front and 10-33 at the back. No front derailleur, no cables, only one little battery and very clean and aero. The first six smallest cogs (the ones you need for crit racing) are very closely spaced and with the other six (wider spaced) cogs you have the gear ratios to climb most things at still a good cadence.
Finally finally finally you’re back with the O2
Have been waiting for this for ages
Glad you're back on the bike reviews, Cam. Your review of the Allez Sprint way back was probably the most helpful video I found when buying my first performance bike.
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Part suggestion: Handlebar:
Pro Stealth Evo!
It's a one piece stem and Handlebar. It's aero, it's NOT super light, but it's super stiff!
Routing is super integrated.
I LOVE it.
Cam - kudos on another great video and I'm delighted to see you sticking with rim brakes. I'm a advocate for life of rim brakes, as long as I can get them (fingers crossed)
Good to see Factor still providing for that market. I wasnt aware. I have a Tarmac SL6 rim brake and I was looking at my limited options for rim brakes for my next bike, and I'm going down the route of a custom built rim brake bike to stay through to the cause and support local bike builders again.
Thanks again for your videos.
i ride the factor o2 non vam and i absolutely love it, its on dura ace 9150 with zipp 404 firestrike and its super quick, however i dont like to ride it often as its expensive 😬
Nice one Stan
Really looking forward to these two builds - this Factor is lovely!
Great that they are still committed to making a super light frame with rim brake option
Campagnolo super record mechanical if it was me, super reliable, great ergonomics and ultra shift allows you to move 3 sprockets with one press of the shifter, a brilliant feature if you’re riding undulating terrain. One of the lightest groupsets on the market as well
Go with a mechanical group set. Dura Ace is pretty light.
Cheers Larry, agreed re Mechanical.
DA, not worth the extra $$, Ultegra is the way to go.
I think SRAM Red 22 mechanical with eebrakes is the lightest setup.
@@ronb9901 In terms of performance you're correct but DA is quite a bit lighter and this is a lightweight bike build.
thanks for being so transparent with everything. been looking at this as an alternative to the tarmac cuz everyone here has it
Had a deposit on a Tarmac but the 02 kept calling my name...and wallet 😬
@@darrenbarlow5759 do u know the difference between the ostro and the o2
@@RevelCris ostro more aero and racy? Jack of all trades?
172 lbs? It's my dream to get down to that weight. I'm 6'1" at 202 lbs after losing 16 this year so far. I've been a ripped 147lbs at this height before, then I blew my back out. It's tough to make progress when you're in constant pain. I'd probably crack that frame though, lol.
Don’t worry about the naysayers, some people just prefer to chop the tall poppies.
Enjoy the bike, happy cycling
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Giant tcr 2021 still has rim brake option and it’s super light too. If want light build, go with Sram Red 22. It’s the lightest mechanical groupset. I had been using it for more than 2 years before I upgraded to Sram red axs.
Cam! I say get the lightest SRAM gruppo for rim version. EE brakes. Darimo seatpost, saddle, and handlebar. Zed Ultra Wheelset. Tune Skyracer saddle. Did I leave anything out? You should be set. Of course that's my build for your bike. If I had that frame I would buy the lightest components on the market and break the scale. But I'm just dreaming. You would need some big bucks for that scenario. That I don't have. Ride on, ride strong!
1:13 - I almost spit out my coffee! lol
Mate I can’t recommend SRAM Red 22 Mechanical and Enve 3.4 wheels enough. Super light, bulletproof and easy to work on. The only problem is all a bit costly. I have the same bike, hovers around 6kg with pedals and Wahoo. Great Vids!
Interesting how the Froomedog performs on the factor this season, mont ventoux stage got me super hyped 😷💪💪💪💪💪💪🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️
Love what you have queued up Cam, looking forward to your upcoming impressions. I covet that frame, congratulations big guy. Will you please touch on the quality of the frame as you build it up? Wondering about the bearing surfaces, like the BB and dropouts, flatness, perpendicular, burrs, things like that. Really wondering about the quality of the fit and finish of the Factor product, Thanks Mate!
Ultegra R8050 Di2; 52-36 crank ; 11-30 cassette 🍿
Came for the carbon frame (looks pretty sweet), got sidetracked reading all about Essential Oils.
🤣🤣🤣
If you're building up the Factor with a budget, SRAM Force AXS is a great groupset. The mechanical brake version can be picked up cheap and the parts have only a minimal weight penalty to RED. The bulk of the weight added with Force is in the cassette and crankset, which can be swapped for the lighter RED versions. Oh, I also use Dura Ace direct mount brakes on mine. The SRAM direct mount brakes are garbage. Stick with Shimano, or perhaps a boutique brand like EE. Looking forward to the build(s).
Good to know
Fun fact: I taught Factor how to spell “velocità” on their IG because apparently they like to rip off the Italian language for fancy marketing. I checked their website again some time later and they had corrected it but had deleted my comment from IG.
Got anymore sweet stories bro... lmao jk you got em good!
Group set is a personal choice.
I like the idea of Direct Mount rim brake callipers.
As for Crit Bike v Climbing Bike, I would suggest its down to the correct wheel choice.
In my opinion: the Factor Frame can be used for Crits & Climbs.
I accept that most people now prefer Clincher Cabon rims, thats ok, but I prefer Tubular.
For climbing Carbon tubular 30mm.
For Crit Races Carbon tubular 50mm.
On windy crit days you can use 30mm front 50mm rear for races.
Another concern depending on rider weight & how hard you push your bike is the number of Sapin CX ray spokes & the right hub choice for each wheel.
Cam... congratulation for the Factor O2 , it is amazing bike i have just one month ago and riding it on cycling track and flat roads . Go with sram groupset and some THM stem and wheels or BLACK INC .
Is it pretty comfortable?
If your building a Crit bike then it has to be SRAM Red ETAP AXS and maybe look at 1x then you’ll have a good bike for Crit and local bunch rides.
SRAM Red 22, but set it up 1x... Saves a good .5 lb... Also look at the Easton SL 90 crankset. Amazingly stiff and the lightest out there in 1x configuration.
What's a pound?
Oh. Yeah. Save at least 220g!
Nice, looking forward to 2 new bike builds.
Maybe equip the beautiful FACTOR with Hunt wheels. I’m a disc break guy, but Hunt’s lineup of wheels is impressive. As training/winter wheel I’ve started to use the Hunt 34 Aero Wide alloy and I’m really really impressed.
Go sram etap 11, lighter and no stupid gear ratios as axs. The light bike should be perfect for accellerations in a bunch. Kudos for staying classy with rim
" I don’t trust anyone who isn’t paid thousands of dollars by the manufacturers to promote their product "
You are responsible for your decisions, if you dont trust him there are other channels to watch. Cam, love the content looking forward to the frame build!
I think you missed the irony
Problem with SRAM groupsets, the brake calipers don't seem to have direct mount versions. Maybe get a used Dura Ace groupset (this groupset is extremely expensive new), OR even better build a mixed groupset between Ultegra and Dura-Ace, and used D-A parts only where they save a lot of weight compared to Ultegra. Campa is very expensive too.
Cane Creek EE Brakes. Might as well go super light. Heck, while we are on the topic of lightness, THM Clavicula Cranks, + Lightbicycle AR35 Flyweight built on DTSwiss 180 (~1200g) wheels sets, + Schwalbe EVO TT Tan walls @205g for 25c.....We are talking bike in the 5KG range. (oops, I think I gave away my next build) You may have to sell a kidney though. Looking forward to the build process.
My 02 frameset is on the way! Can't wait!
Winspace hyper wheels or Light Bicycle gravel wheels (min 23mm internal diameter) and the new dura ace 9200 when it comes out!
Also would be interesting to see your comparison of lightweight handlebars with a stiff stem vs an aero handlebar with a stiff stem (when you change over to dura ace 9200)
Think about Sram Red 1x12 for this - maybe not such smooth steps, but you can easily get the same range as 2x with less weight. That way you can have some ridiculously light crankset, maybe absolute black oval or sth etc.
Keep doing it your way Cam👍🇦🇺
Cheers Bondy. By the way, I emailed you and it bounced back. Two or three times. It was in response to an email I sent out which you replied to. A few weeks ago now
@@CamNicholls That’s strange Cam as I am receiving emails🧐
I am a big Factor fan and ride a Standard O2, and I would think about putting Factors sister Company Blackinc 30mm carbon climing wheelset on
Jack how is the ride quality? I've just committed to an 02 with Di2 and black inc wheels etc. I'm hoping I haven't made a mistake having never ridden one😬🍻
@@darrenbarlow5759 it will be the best bike you have ridden. If you have see Rob Gitelis interviewed about why he went to building his own factory for his designs you will see why what they are doing isn't just another mass produced generic bike. Stiff, light, compliant, rails corners and handles like a Dream. You will love it. Only the drive train is an issue not enough power ever 😀
@@jackblevel8296 cheers mate. I flirted with a Tarmac for a while but the Factor kept calling me. The guy who's building it up for me was originally going with Sram etap because of availability but Di2 ended up being the same time frame. I did a lot of reading about their frames and innovation. Can't wait! Thank you for the reply
I'm with you on the rim brake opinion. I just find them easier to use and tune.
First of all that factor frame is a beautiful thing. The fact that it’s just 700 g or so is a big plus point too. Would be awesome if you put identical group sets and wheels on both the Winspace and Factor frames and see which gives you better performance or satisfaction riding. A aero vs lightweight compare if you like so that you can see which gives you a real world advantage. Just a suggestion.
P.s. surf boarding? 😝
Ultegra Di2 with SRAM Red cassette and whatever power meter you use. Give up 100 grams to DA and save $2k...I’ve done something similar- went from the Propel back to TCR. Lighter, feels so much better to ride and with aero bars and deep wheels I’d argue the aero difference is marginal at best. Keen to know what you think of the Factor, always been interested in them
Recently ordered Caden’s from watching your video and reading some reviews. Looking forward to them coming in! Keep up the great content mate
Nice one Derek, hope they work out well for you.
@@CamNicholls My rear DeCadence wheel bearings had got trashed by me riding in some pretty shocking rain in Darwin on occasions and just neglecting my bike. Roads so crap up there I didn't really notice. When I moved to Brisbane I dropped Ben an email, sent both wheels back, bearing replaced, serviced, trued, bastard tubeless Corsa Speeds actually set up tubeless and returned to me just for the cost of me posting them down to him. Absolute gent and superb service
Funny... Chapter2 ad played before your video started👏👏👏👏👏
Nothing to do with me 🤷♂️
If i may be of any influence on you... Campag Record 12sp mechanical - with KCNC brakes... and a Tune saddle. trust me.
Not sure I can weasel a deal on that 🤷♂️
@@CamNicholls Ah, sometimes you just have to pay the man. KCNC is a small taiwan outfit so i imagine the Oz importer will be a small shop somewhere. Campag? Pay for the exclusiveness and lightness ( and efficiency) over your peers. You could try Aura Cycles in Perth WA to see where he gets his campag. m
Props for buying one of the last rim-brake frames
How about a sram red axs group set up 1x? 10-33 at the back, and choose the front ring to suit the circumstances. It’ll save you some weight, especially the rim brake version. And with etap, it’s crazy easy to add a FD later if you don’t get on with the 1x
I’ve got force axs wide 10-36 set up 1x on my endurance bike. Got front ring in 40T and then a 36T for bike packing
CAM, CAM, CAMMMMM...my mannnnnn. Lol. You HAVE GOT TO look into Tom Anhalt. He's an independent engineer that does tons of cycling testing/studies/ wind tunnel/you name it. He has proven over and over that the bike/ wheel weight that cyclists worry about doesn't matter at all (up until 10% grade). humans accelerate super slow in comparison to machines, cars, aerospace, etc. He has done testing where he has added an entire pound of weight to the rim and found it makes no difference up until a 10% grade. He even covers the exact thing you mentioned, surging out of a corner in a crit. Aero is 49 X more important than weight (again, up to a 10% grade). When accelerating in a crit, you aren't accelerating from a stand still, you're already moving...I might have explained it wrong but I just think it's crazy every point you mentioned is the exact stuff he covered in the podcast. I'm going to look for it and post it below. Lol.
#Aero4Lyfe !!!
I'll look into it, appreciate it mate and hope all is well.
I think this comment makes a lot of sense. From what I remember of engineering principles, the aero part probably does more for you than weight from a balance of both factors. I mean most cyclists spend a whole lot more time cycling at their 80% limit than they do sprinting, even in crits. Personally, I feel it way more from headwinds than adding extra bottles or a bike lock or accessories.
Cam don’t let this colour your upcoming videos. Look up the factor review by cycling tips recently. There factor explains that air attachment just does not happen before 40 kph and below that speed weight is more important in the flats as well. Above 40 aero becomes important. You should test at 30kph and 40kph to see how it goes.
@@RUclipsfana "There factor explains that air attachment just does not happen before 40 kph and below that speed weight is more important in the flats as well", you totally misinterpreted that article, just because the air doesn't attach doesn't mean air resistance isn't a factor or isn't important......f=ma, simple calculation & thanks to that; weight has almost no effect on top speed since weight only affects rolling resistance slightly & air resistance is by far the biggest force to overcome even at 20km/h, the breakover point is about 16km/h, take a fairly low speed of 30km/h, at that speed it takes 13.6N of force to overcome air resistance & only 4 for rolling resistance, if you add 26kg to your weight which is a massive weight gain, does the weight have a bigger effect than air resistance then? Nope, those 26 extra kg only adds 1N extra to the total force for the rider to overcome, who have a bike that weights 26kg more than the average?
The difference between a 7kg bike & 10kg bike is 1.2w & you can save much more than 1w by being just slightly more aero, especially since air resistance increases squared while rolling resistance (weight) doesn't (linear). Weight is never ever in any circumstances more important than aero on flats, why did you even think that, you need to weight about 270kg for the weight to equal air resistance at 30km/h! Like, a simple logical example: why do you think time trial & triathlon riders uses those bikes which are heavier instead of a lightweight climbing bike? Yeah, because aero is always king on flats. As the other commenter said, weight is only a factor at 10% incline or more...also, look at sprint racers on velodromes, there is a reason they don't care about weight & only power...
And for acceleration, the track must basically only consist of hairpin corners & no straights for weight to be more important than aero on flats
Aero & weight have easy formulas, here is one tool to visualize it: www.gribble.org/cycling/power_v_speed.html
This has been known for +40-50 years now, why is this still even a discussion?
@@RUclipsfana uhhhh, what? Anything above 15mph aero becomes more important than weight (up to 10% grade). Its literally not even a debate. Science is science. 49 times more important. Not 2 times, or even 10 times. 49 TIMES more important. That's beyond significant.
Rode one recently with sram and rim brakes
Black ink wheels
Formidable combination
Uphill and down , on another level
Reason 3.or 4. 🧐, Phil Gaimon rides a Factor Vam.
If you want to go full lightweight,you have to go with sram red 22
yes! and it is a awesome groupset! :)
With 1x 😁
2x would be better because the jumps are smaller
@@bobbymcflare57 But if its a weight weenie build, does it matter?
I’d put SRAM force 48/35 10-28 with DT Swiss PR1400 21 tubeless. I wouldn’t go carbon wheels on rim brakes!
Go with a Campagnolo groupset! Srimano are just way to mainstream.. I´m shure your audience would like to hear your thougts and experiences riding a Campag-groupset. ;) make the bike special!
100%
I've ridden many high end bikes and my O2 is my favourite. You were asking about groupsets so I'll chime in to say that I regret cheaping out and going for SRAM eTap Force, I should have splurged a bit more and gone for Red because the extra weight of Force is really noticeable on this lightweight bike, especially in the rear with the big cassette. The VAM definitely deserves Red!
If you wanna build some really lightweight bike, you should opt for the last version of the Sram Red 22 mechanical groupset, Darimo seatpost and Schmolke TLO 45 Clincher wheels!
Where do I find Sram Red 22 these days?
@@CamNicholls I think you have to buy each component separate. Sold out as a groupset everywhere. And otherwise Dura Ace R9100 not the di2, is also really light.
Colnago does too, have V3RS in rim brake option
Do what you like, i as your viewers like this kind of content 👍👍👍
Welcome to the Factor family Cam .I love my O2 V.A.M... Cheers Lance
haha, cheers Lance, I did think of you when purchasing it.
@@CamNicholls I just spent a week in Jindabyne in the Snowy Mt.Bike lived up to all the hype ,climbs better than the tarmac , descends with confidence and goes round corners like its on rails.
Its a very pretty bike! I think it would make a great main rider for the year 2021! Also those disc brakes on the white factor sound like a chubaka on the second clip!😂
hah, agreed and cheers Sean
SRAM 10 or 11 mechanical - lightest groupset ever made, yet eTap will look great!
Go with some EE brakes!
Seconded!
Strap an aeropod on the bike. That together what you've learned about bike fitting should go together well to show how much position on the bike affects your drag and hence speed per watt.
I envy you being in a situation where you can afford purchasing so many bikes.
Then do something about it instead of just having feelings about it.
@@sakotodan Yeah, imagine taking accountability of your situation. 5HEAD.
Factor is a great bike, nice choice
Shimano Dura Ace groupset and some EE brakes! The dura ace groupset has the lowest friction on the market and the EE brakes are insane light.
Finding one is a challenge right now. SRAM is readily available.
Please go for SRAM RED 1x12.
Kudos for rim brakes.
I love them as well.
My 2020 Bianchi oltrexr4 still on rim brakes😍 I’m surprised you didn’t think of getting one😅 either the oltrexr4 or specialisma if you like climbing.
For the groupset it has to be SRAM Red 22 or Dura-ace 9100 Mechanical. Both super light :)
Where do I find Sram Red 22 these days?
@@CamNicholls Usually just hope someone is selling it online at this rate.
You should try out a sram 1x groupset and see what it’s like to have 1x in a critical race. That would be really interesting.
Perhaps progressing toward a climber's physique that runs parallel to building a climber's bike might make an interesting experiment/application.
Winspace Hyper wheels?
Agree with you regarding rim brakes,they are lighter and more aero as well as easier to set up and adjust.For Mtb or gravel discs are good ,more power less effort. I have not raced for years but what i did find was on a TT or crit , aero & heavier wheels and to a lesser extent the frame,heavier is better because of momentum,allows you to build and maintain speed,quite different from climbing where lightness and acceleration is king(surprise).Hope to see update on Winspace soon.
Cheers Simon, glad to hear re rim.
Nice choice. There is a guy in the UK who does photos for cycle teams (did Sky when Wiggins won TdF). Name is Scott Mitchell. He got a Factor and raves about it. Downside is they are v expensive (IMO). Looking forward to review.
O2 in a 54 with rim brakes?? Nice! I will be keeping my eye in this build with a view to buying it off you when you're done with it!
Currently riding SRAM RED AXS and love it. Highly recommended. Oh, and 165mm cranks suit me fine :-)
a climbing bike needs to be a great descending bike too in my eyes. what does up must come down, and a twitchy nervous bike isnt fun going down big hills; and in saying that i would go disc brakes as to not possibly over heat carbon rims with rim brakes. will watch this build intently :)
Yes, agreed and good point! We'll find out.
Awesome looking frame Cam 👌🏼 Got to be DA if you want lightweight though. Unless you go for the older gen SRAM Red, DA is a fair bit lighter! Looking forward to following this project 👍🏼
build them bikes with shimano dura-ace . oh yeah i also walked away from the big brands done with them and there crazy pricing. im also going with winspace .
very nice VAM bike. Love the paintjob. I would put some Zipp 303 wheels on (new ones). They are very light 1400g total and Aero. And not too expensive compared to other brands. For gearing I would use a sram force AXS with the powermeter spider.
Ken Bruce and the Sale of the Century theme in one video, feeling a little nostalgic are you mate?
btw what do you think about the future of wheelsets with rimbrakes? I'm thinking about a new frame but hesitating rim or disk. I will avoid to buy an expensive frame with RB and loose the possibility to get wheelsets in future because anybody invest only in DB.
Hi, Cam, here Guilherme from Bauru-São Paulo-Brazil. I have a scott addict team issue, rim brakes, full mechanical dura ace & mavic carbon wheels 40mm. I have ridden many bikes and i can tell you that you will never go back to a aero bike again. My piece of advice: the most light group set it is sram red mechanical version. That would be my choice. But if you don't like the way sram change gears, my second choice would be campy and them dura ace. Hope you enjoy your bike and if you want to ride in Brazil, please, be my guest. BR, Guilherme.
I think SRAM red 22 could be the go.
@@CamNicholls agreed!
you bought a rim brake climbing bike. Cam u effin legend! go all out on groupset Campagnolo Eps . pure gold!
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Looking forward to seeing both bike builds Cam. I see you had 4 punctures on a recent ride. Time for some nice Vittoria Corsa tubeless 28's ? Cheers Peter
Haha! Yes what a nightmare. Weren’t all mine though. Hope all is well mate