Japanese vs American Tenkara rods...what's the difference?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In this video I share3 my experiences and opinion about the differences between Japanese made Tenkara rods and Tenkara rods offered by American companies.
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Great video, very informative. It's good to occasionally see a video like this. First and foremost all rods are tools. I appreciate a well made and aesthetically perfect rod, I own a few high end JDM rods. However I find the ADM rods make for better all around fishing tools for the way I fish. If you have any influence with Tanuki ask that they cut back on the graphics and drop the cost a little. I love the rods however don't need the extreme graphics at a higher cost.
Thanks Michael!
Your video pretty much summed it all up. Very well put together. It was enjoyable to watch. Thanks 😉👍
Thanks Rick!
Handy and informative!!!Thanks for taking the time! Enjoy all your stream videos as well!!!! Cheers...Todd
Thank you for watching!
Hi Kris, great video. I agree on all your overall takeaways, especially on your point that Americans "fish differently". That was certainly a guiding principle for us and I believe we are seeing the fixed line market evolve with American practical adaptations as you mentioned. Interestingly, I don't believe any of the Japanese brands will ever enter the US market, but IF they did, I believe you would see them adapt (product wise) to the U.S. market like other Japanese companies have historically done. In terms of the Japanese rods themselves, the quality and the tech of the carbon is what I believe really sets them apart (primarily for the higher end models in my opinion) and produces the lower weight and handling qualities you identify in your video. You also see tech and fit n' finish on surfaces and handles that Chinese companies have yet to replicate.
Thanks for the comment! I’ve noticed that you are carrying more JDM rods these days. Glad to see it!
I bought a Daiwa Expert Tenkara LT36 as my first Tenkara. I’m a western fly fisherman, been doing it since I was 11. By the way, the country of origin on these rods gets confusing. American rods that are made in China. Japanese rods that are made In Thailand. Just fish with what you like. Don’t get too hung up on where it’s made. The point is to enjoy yourself and catch lots of fish. You don’t need 100’s of rods. If you like collecting more power to you, Im not knocking it. I collect baseball cards and comics, I get it, but you can only cast one line at a time. If I have half as much fun fishing Tenkara as I do western style fly fishing, I’ll probably end up with a few Tenkara rods in my quiver as well. I can already foresee it. Lol! Great channel. Good info. Keep the new videos coming GO RAMS!!!! Happy Fishing. Cheers!
Thanks. I enjoy fishing with western rod/reel as well…in fact I will be tomorrow. I enjoy fishing with all my rods, regardless of the country of origin. I appreciate the differences and pros and cons of each.
By the way, how do you like the expert LT 36? Daiwa makes fantastic rods. My Master L LL36, L LT 36, LT H44, and Sagiri 39MC are all great rods for different situations.
@@tenkaraonthetrail I have not fished the Daiwa yet. I just ordered it. Still waiting for the rod to be delivered. I promise I’ll come back and let you know how it goes. I obviously don’t have any Tenkara experience but I’ll try to describe my initial thoughts on the rod in comparison to my higher end Orvis Western Fly Rods. I know it’s apples and oranges but I don’t have anything else to go by. I haven’t even cast the LT36 yet and I’m already eye balling the LL36. Lol! I can already see how accumulating too many tenkara rods can get out of control with all the different types and styles. I was only able to collect 5 western style fly rods through the years because descent ones start at $300 to $400 and go all the way to$1000. Let’s not even talk bamboo fly rods which go for upwards of $4000. Tenkara is much more affordable. In western style fly fishing I mostly prefer mid flex rods. I bought the tip flex Daiwa Expert Tenkara LT36 because after doing some research I found that tip flex can offer me a better “all in one” rod with more options like nymphing and so forth. I never had a problem nymphing with my Orvis mid flex, but I figured if the Tenkara experts say get a tip flex cause it’s better for nymphing then I’m not going to argue with that. I can’t wait to get my feet wet. I’ll come back and let you know how it goes…
Sounds good! I love my bamboo rods…sold several of my graphite rods. The way I see it, I can by quite a few Tenkara rods for each bamboo rod. 😂
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Whew! I’m guessing from the racks you’re showing off that money is no object for you. Lucky guy. I wonder how many of them get used once (or not at all) and then become part of the permanent display? Collector value might be another thing worth discussing from your unique perspective. Thanks for sharing and happy holidays!
I used and caught fish with every one of them last year, but didn’t get out as much as I would’ve hoped due to changing jobs. Money is always a concern, but I sacrifice other areas to support my obsession. I do have some new rods that I recently purchased that I haven’t used yet (not in those racks on video) due to weather. Thanks for watching and Merry Christmas.
Still waiting for my first Dragontail Tenkara rod the TalonMini........sometime in January 2024.
Excellent, I hope you like it as much as I do!
Maybe in America, we should call them ELEVENkara!
Great stuff ,what American rod would you suggest for newbie? $200 price range.
It always depends on where and what you’re fishing for….but I typically suggest starting with dragontail unless you’re fishing for really big fish, then Wasatch is worth a look. I also really like ESZ rods. All three of those companies’ rods are under $200. If you tell me more about how big the fish are and if you tend to use unweighted flies or bead heads I could get a little more specific.
Another great video. Just as you mentioned in the video, I often encounter some minor damage or the parts looks like it has been used in US brand rods. (Well, they send new parts without asking me any question so in my opinion that’s not huge issue though)
I’m interesting in Tanuki rods since it has great reputation from tenkara expert. But the price point is more than high end Nissin or Daiwa rods. So for now, I think I will stay with Japanese brand. Too bad Tenkarabum discontinued.
Thank you. I’ve had great customer service from all of them. I just received an email from TAO to replace a minor defect I found yesterday. Very good to deal with them.
Don’t forget Tenkara Rod Co. and Tiny Tenkara. They both make quality rods that are very popular, affordable, and functional.
Thanks, I haven’t owned or fished TRC…I have used the TT, but wasn’t a fan of the stiffness.
The TRC Kita is Japanese made and amazing. You need to add the Kita to your arsenal. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Rob. I have looked at the River Peak Kiwami (aka Kita when made for TRC). It looks like a very nice rod and Tom’s review was very positive. Keiryu rod co also carry JDM rods.
Great video with a lot of good info for those of us who are still new to Tenkara. I am thinking of buying a Tanuki Pocket Ninja. I saw you fishing one on one of your videos and was wondering your opinion on it for a neophyte...
I have several videos with my pocket ninja…lots of fun and ultra compact! I have the black/orange version and the trout skin 240 headwaters version. His new “outbound” 320 rods are gorgeous, but they’re the same length as my older black/orange. I have a link and a coupon code in the description to save an extra 5% if you decide to try one.
@Tenkara on the Trail , thank you. I think I am gonna get one. Not sure which length yet though. I'll let you know how it works out down here when the water opens up. We should talk at some point about the possibility of you fishing down here in the Bighorns. We have some pretty good water.
That would be awesome. I used to run the Bighorn trail run. Love that area!
The 320 may be a better choice for versatility, reach, and stealth….unless you know you’ll have limited casting room.
Wow such a simple system became so complicated !
I enjoyed this video. What is the name of the 240 or was it 260 pencil weight rod you mentioned midway through the video?
Nissin Hakubai. I have 2. One is a 5 penny rod and the other is 7 pennies (referring to stiffness). Both weigh the same. Mine are the 240 versions.
Great video. I was wondering if you had any info on where and how to get a part for a Nissin Zero Sum 360 7:3. I cannot find anyone who sells parts. Bought the rod on Amazon
I would check with Tenkara-Ya since Tenkarabum is retiring.
When you refer to American made, do you mean American company? I think/thought the rods were made in Japan or China. Who has American made rods? Thanks Gary (USN Ret.)
Yes, American company rods is what I’m referring too.
For a while, TFO (Korea) made rods under their name, and for Patagonia (super-stiff and geared toward casting a PVC line).
Daiwa also makes/made the Sagiri 39 & 45MC in Thailand: highly recommend both Sagiri rods for fish up to 12-14”.
Yes, I’ve kicked myself for not getting the sagiri rods when I had the chance. I was on a kurenai kick.
@@tenkaraonthetrailYou have the Tenkara Master LL, so don’t kick too hard ;)
Excellent and thorough review. I greatly appreciate your investment in expense and time in these reviews. With the absence of Fixed-line fishing rods in the majority of fly shops (sans TUSA), these reviews sway my purchase decisions.
V/r, Mitch….SWO/1110
Thanks Mitch. I’ve based most of my purchases on Tom’s reviews and Tenbum’s advice and information. I have been purchasing more American company rods lately though since so many people are interested in them.