Thanks for the demonstration. It looks like it takes more force than I imagined. However, I only have a few joints, for several thousand dollars difference, I can manage using the manual tool. Thanks again!
Sure thing! The 3/4” connections require a decent amount of force to expand with the tool. If you’re only doing 1/2” connections those are pretty easy!
I just swapped out most of the copper pipe in my 70+ year old Levit Cape with a single bathroom for Pex-A a few weeks ago. My wife bought me the Milwaukee Propex expander as an early Father's Day present, lol. If I never use it again, it was still extremely worthwhile. I can't imagine using a manual expander in many of the tight spaces I had to squeeze the battery expander into and still be able to crank the thing.
I clicked on your video because I have to swap out a 1" pipe. Now I'm kinda nervous on whether or not I'll be able to squeeze that tool together. Good video. Smart advice about NOT using a heat gun in the attic!
Pex A... Seems to be such a simple thing to do, but seeing it done makes it so clear. The tip about rotating while expanding is very helpful. Thanks for the demonstration. I am not a pro plumber, I only need to do a section of my house, so the manual tool will do. About $95 in Amazon with 5 die sizes.
@@hanoveroak Great help. Thanks for taking the time to produce it. Quick question for pex A installers: If installed correctly and not damaged by abnormal events... How long have you guys seen it last?
Thanks the Milwaukee power tool gods cause my pro-pex tool is a life saver, i just re-looped the potable water pipes in a two story 3 bathroom house w/laundry room & 3 hose bibs from polybutylene to pex-a, i would've died if i has roy use this manual expander😂😂😂😂
After watching a few videos I just keep using PEX B with copper rings. I have the IWISS crimper tool I got off amazon works great. I can see the upsides of PEX-A how fast it is for plumbers using a battery powered expander tool.
It's my understanding that using those fittings will reduce water flow because the inner diameter of the fitting is going to be smaller than the inner diameter of the pipe. If you are starting a whole project from scratch, you can increase the size of the PEX you are using and thus increase the size of those fittings. I'm currently researching all this for a DIY project on an existing system, so I'm deciding between using an expansion method or Shark Bite push fittings.
@@fosty. True have to consider that I was running water from a RO to a refrigerator, and a swamp cooler both had reducers to smaller then 1/2" pex. Also government required flow restrictors are very tiny on faucets. Washing machines don't have restrictors would notice a drop. I also noticed a plastic taste in the water since it's after the RO I thought by avoiding copper because RO water can leech copper it does the same thing with PEX.
@@Mike-01234 Do you still notice the plastic taste? We did the same thing with the refrigerator and ran it for a while until our TDS meter said that the PPM level was looking good. It could also be the refrigerator itself. If it's a bit older who knows what it looks like in there.
3:03 Hey...quick question, if I may. I just bought the manual expansion tool. Without the expansion tip on, the two handles will come down and close together pretty close. Once I put the tip on, the second handle doesn't come all the way down. I couldn't tell on your video. It kinda looks like the arms don't come close. Without the expansion tip on the tool, the two arms come close together, but once I put the expansion tip on, the second arm stops about 6 inches from closure. I think it could be not enough grease, or whatever. I've put grease on the pointed part. I dunno, it's something stupid, because without the tip, it closes normally, like bolt cutter handles come together, but like when I put the expansion tip on, it's like now the bolt cutter teeth are on a padlock. 😋 I haven't got pipe yet, so maybe I need to get some PEX-A pipe, but I'm slow....all I have so far are the expansion rings and the tool. Home Depot is out of the piping.
If you’re dealing with existing plumbing pipe thats a problem that doesnt say pex a, pex b, or pex c, or wirsbo anywhere and pex a - c is the same dimensions both inside diameter and outside diameter, how do you know what fittings and what process needs to used? Best idea to just use pex b fittings and clamps?
Don't think you mentioned it but as much effort and difficult as it is when you're expanding the pex around 3:00 .. anyone who hasn't thought of this, it's even harder when you have an uncut length of PEX pulling the tube out of the tool and nobody to help hold it in. Think I'm gonna go pull a vise off a workbench to hold the pipe in place... for now
One thing I learned was not to slice the pipe where 2 raised rings exist on the fitting. I slice between the rings and use a screwdriver to split apart the pipe. Mild scoring the raised rings can cause a leak especially when I reuse poly fittings.
I have a friend who converted a PEX crimp tool into a PEX press tool by carefully filing off the end of the tool. Does anyone know of a video of somebody doing this? I asked my friend to share with me how he did it but he's not reliable on replying back in a timely manner.
It works for me. Just heat it up really well and wiggle it out. Once it cools and shrinks down to its original shape slip another extender ring, expend it over the fitting and you're done.@@hanoveroak
Just heat the whole thing well and wiggle it off I then use a new expander ring. I replaced a cracked plastic tee and elbow doing it this way. @trashcan4u853
Ok, this thing is a WORK OUT! When possible (pre-assembling the manifold bypass valves) turn the tool upside down and place one end of the handle on the ground, and use your body weight on the opposite handle to compress the tool on 1" fittings. Some bad words helps with the process. Also, know there is a minimum length of pipe required between fittings. For 1" pipe, you need at least 3.5 inches of pipe.
Nope, I'll just stick to my crimp rings and cinch clamps. For every one expansion ring you expanded, I could've crimped or cinched about 5 or 6 rings. This manual version is more trouble than it's worth. Great video review though.
Great video. Great explanation on how to use the tool. Didn't have much money to buy an expansion drill, this was very economical for now
Thank you! Glad it helped!
Thanks for the demonstration. It looks like it takes more force than I imagined. However, I only have a few joints, for several thousand dollars difference, I can manage using the manual tool.
Thanks again!
Sure thing! The 3/4” connections require a decent amount of force to expand with the tool. If you’re only doing 1/2” connections those are pretty easy!
Straight to the point. Thanks!
I just swapped out most of the copper pipe in my 70+ year old Levit Cape with a single bathroom for Pex-A a few weeks ago. My wife bought me the Milwaukee Propex expander as an early Father's Day present, lol. If I never use it again, it was still extremely worthwhile. I can't imagine using a manual expander in many of the tight spaces I had to squeeze the battery expander into and still be able to crank the thing.
Completely agree! I would highly recommend the battery expanders for a project like this. Just wanted to show viewers it can be done without it.
Love your content. Spot on with the way you deliver content. I just purchased based on your video. Thank you so much for the work you do on YT!
Thank you! Really appreciate the kind words and glad to hear the videos have helped you.
I clicked on your video because I have to swap out a 1" pipe. Now I'm kinda nervous on whether or not I'll be able to squeeze that tool together. Good video. Smart advice about NOT using a heat gun in the attic!
Yeah the 1” pipe will be pretty tough to expand! The 1/2” is easy.
Weak, I just manually expanded a 2” water main. I might’ve lost all sensations in my fingers but I did it
Time for a cheater pipe extension on the handle!
Pex A... Seems to be such a simple thing to do, but seeing it done makes it so clear. The tip about rotating while expanding is very helpful. Thanks for the demonstration. I am not a pro plumber, I only need to do a section of my house, so the manual tool will do. About $95 in Amazon with 5 die sizes.
Thanks! Glad it helped.
@@hanoveroak Great help. Thanks for taking the time to produce it. Quick question for pex A installers: If installed correctly and not damaged by abnormal events... How long have you guys seen it last?
Great video and would say that if you had to extend just use a two-way coupler
Absolutely!
Awesome demonstration
Thanks!
Thanks the Milwaukee power tool gods cause my pro-pex tool is a life saver, i just re-looped the potable water pipes in a two story 3 bathroom house w/laundry room & 3 hose bibs from polybutylene to pex-a, i would've died if i has roy use this manual expander😂😂😂😂
After watching a few videos I just keep using PEX B with copper rings. I have the IWISS crimper tool I got off amazon works great. I can see the upsides of PEX-A how fast it is for plumbers using a battery powered expander tool.
It's my understanding that using those fittings will reduce water flow because the inner diameter of the fitting is going to be smaller than the inner diameter of the pipe. If you are starting a whole project from scratch, you can increase the size of the PEX you are using and thus increase the size of those fittings.
I'm currently researching all this for a DIY project on an existing system, so I'm deciding between using an expansion method or Shark Bite push fittings.
@@fosty. True have to consider that I was running water from a RO to a refrigerator, and a swamp cooler both had reducers to smaller then 1/2" pex. Also government required flow restrictors are very tiny on faucets. Washing machines don't have restrictors would notice a drop. I also noticed a plastic taste in the water since it's after the RO I thought by avoiding copper because RO water can leech copper it does the same thing with PEX.
@@Mike-01234 Do you still notice the plastic taste? We did the same thing with the refrigerator and ran it for a while until our TDS meter said that the PPM level was looking good.
It could also be the refrigerator itself. If it's a bit older who knows what it looks like in there.
You can use copper rings with pex a also, no?
Thanks this was really helpful!
Glad it helped!
3:03 Hey...quick question, if I may. I just bought the manual expansion tool. Without the expansion tip on, the two handles will come down and close together pretty close. Once I put the tip on, the second handle doesn't come all the way down. I couldn't tell on your video. It kinda looks like the arms don't come close. Without the expansion tip on the tool, the two arms come close together, but once I put the expansion tip on, the second arm stops about 6 inches from closure. I think it could be not enough grease, or whatever. I've put grease on the pointed part. I dunno, it's something stupid, because without the tip, it closes normally, like bolt cutter handles come together, but like when I put the expansion tip on, it's like now the bolt cutter teeth are on a padlock. 😋
I haven't got pipe yet, so maybe I need to get some PEX-A pipe, but I'm slow....all I have so far are the expansion rings and the tool. Home Depot is out of the piping.
As long as it expands enough to insert the fitting you are good! If it doesn’t, then there is probably something wrong with the tool.
If you’re dealing with existing plumbing pipe thats a problem that doesnt say pex a, pex b, or pex c, or wirsbo anywhere and pex a - c is the same dimensions both inside diameter and outside diameter, how do you know what fittings and what process needs to used? Best idea to just use pex b fittings and clamps?
Thank you!
Don't think you mentioned it but as much effort and difficult as it is when you're expanding the pex around 3:00 .. anyone who hasn't thought of this, it's even harder when you have an uncut length of PEX pulling the tube out of the tool and nobody to help hold it in. Think I'm gonna go pull a vise off a workbench to hold the pipe in place... for now
Thank you! 😀
Sure - glad it helped!
One thing I learned was not to slice the pipe where 2 raised rings exist on the fitting. I slice between the rings and use a screwdriver to split apart the pipe. Mild scoring the raised rings can cause a leak especially when I reuse poly fittings.
Good tip - thanks!
I have a friend who converted a PEX crimp tool into a PEX press tool by carefully filing off the end of the tool. Does anyone know of a video of somebody doing this? I asked my friend to share with me how he did it but he's not reliable on replying back in a timely manner.
if heated more would the tube come off without cutting it?
I don’t think that it would.
It works for me. Just heat it up really well and wiggle it out. Once it cools and shrinks down to its original shape slip another extender ring, expend it over the fitting and you're done.@@hanoveroak
@@ramonestrada38do you first cut the expander ring or just heat the whole thing together and pull apart?
Just heat the whole thing well and wiggle it off I then use a new expander ring. I replaced a cracked plastic tee and elbow doing it this way. @trashcan4u853
Ok, this thing is a WORK OUT! When possible (pre-assembling the manifold bypass valves) turn the tool upside down and place one end of the handle on the ground, and use your body weight on the opposite handle to compress the tool on 1" fittings. Some bad words helps with the process. Also, know there is a minimum length of pipe required between fittings. For 1" pipe, you need at least 3.5 inches of pipe.
Great tips here - thank you! Yes it is quite the workout. But not too bad for a small job!
In most places you will not have room to spin this huge tool and the pipe is secure so no spin there either. I will definitely stick with pex b
There are auto-rotating expanders too, so you don't have to spin the tool.
Pex B is ass
I like heating the ring until its becomes transparent then cut off
Nope, I'll just stick to my crimp rings and cinch clamps. For every one expansion ring you expanded, I could've crimped or cinched about 5 or 6 rings. This manual version is more trouble than it's worth. Great video review though.