Further Danger Should Ukraine Army Collapse - John Mearsheimer

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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  • @DanielDavisDeepDive
    @DanielDavisDeepDive  10 дней назад +5

    see full vid w/John Mearsheimer: ruclips.net/video/O1IxyYzGeJ8/видео.html

  • @user-kv1lp8ih8g
    @user-kv1lp8ih8g 10 дней назад +47

    Im pretty sure Lavrov has already said because Ukraine didnt accept the last peace proposal that Russia was going to take Odessa and that there would be no peace agreement without it.

    • @debasismohanty1952
      @debasismohanty1952 10 дней назад +1

      Fake news 😂😂😂

    • @katong1953
      @katong1953 10 дней назад +12

      @debasismohanty. How can someone telling you what he thinks be fake news?

    • @debasismohanty1952
      @debasismohanty1952 9 дней назад +1

      @@katong1953 Russia's main goal is to take control of whole Ukraine but they failed to do that because their military failed to perform against Ukrainian military simple answer

    • @amandapeluso4217
      @amandapeluso4217 9 дней назад

      ​​@debasismohanty1952 Russia never stated they wanted to take the whole of Ukraine. Your comment is absurd propaganda from the Pentagon and US mainstream media outlets. That wasn't Russia's main goal to take all of Ukraine. It was de-nazification and NATO instigated this proxy war along with the US

    • @AraAra-n6o
      @AraAra-n6o 8 дней назад +2

      @@debasismohanty1952
      How do you know that Russia's main goal is to take control of whole Ukraine?
      Just based on your assumptions of biased thinking towards Russia?
      Are you third grade?

  • @jimmybraun4193
    @jimmybraun4193 9 дней назад +18

    To Mearsheimer, the 4 oblasts have not been annexed.......but all 4 oblasts held referendums in 2022, with international observers.

    • @joeie5979
      @joeie5979 9 дней назад +2

      So true ...👍🏻

    • @joeie5979
      @joeie5979 9 дней назад +3

      ...these Americans are full of themselves...even the ones pretending to be well informed.

    • @nathandunning7150
      @nathandunning7150 9 дней назад +2

      Precisely

    • @nathandunning7150
      @nathandunning7150 9 дней назад +2

      @@joeie5979 They can't shake that US exceptionalism

    • @marciolima-cv2gx
      @marciolima-cv2gx 9 дней назад

      🤣🤣🤣you goofy BOT 🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣what internacional observers you useless bot 🤣🤣🤣

  • @yu-jd5jg
    @yu-jd5jg 10 дней назад +20

    The Hegemonic US is a spent military force fighting in another country after Afghanistan

    • @DanielDavisDeepDive
      @DanielDavisDeepDive  10 дней назад +1

      no kidding

    • @derikuk2967
      @derikuk2967 7 дней назад

      There is still a bit of profit to be squeezed out of this tragedy for Lindsey Graham and his gang of weapons manufacturers.

    • @yu-jd5jg
      @yu-jd5jg 7 дней назад +1

      @@derikuk2967 Now the Hegemonic US can only force it's Vassals to fight on its behalf. But the Vassals are not that stupid except perhaps for UK and Australia

  • @rogeredwards4871
    @rogeredwards4871 9 дней назад +5

    And Russia's military is battle hardened now, the U.S. can't even fill it's ranks and it's ground troops won't do well in combat.

  • @andranik_torosyan
    @andranik_torosyan 9 дней назад +4

    One thing people often fail to understand is the impact of Western public opinion. No NATO country’s politicians can afford the optics of tens of thousands of soldiers returning in body bags. Such a scenario would spark riots in the streets, with demands for an immediate end to the conflict.

  • @brianmurray1395
    @brianmurray1395 10 дней назад +9

    Odessa is Russias now

  • @fredk9999
    @fredk9999 10 дней назад +10

    Really impressed favourably with Professor Mearsheimer’s credentials to include graduation and commission from United States Military Academy

    • @justforlaughs1111
      @justforlaughs1111 9 дней назад +1

      agreed

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      I like the fact that they taught him on academy to tell the truth no matter how unpleasant it is and with hard work making him through the process first class officer.

  • @efghggdxlmfn33
    @efghggdxlmfn33 10 дней назад +5

    "In case of aggressive steps by Kiev, Russia's response will follow immediately, I think you have already seen a lot of this in recent days and the answers will be extremely painful," Zakharova said.

  • @cgerman
    @cgerman 10 дней назад +8

    It all depends on whether an agreement will be reached. If the Ukrainians say we will continue the war the Russians will try to take pore territory, if the Zelensky regime is out of the picture and an agreement can be made they will stop.

    • @geoffreydebrito7934
      @geoffreydebrito7934 9 дней назад

      Zelensky is NOT in charge. The Ukrainian Oligarchs are Zelensky's bosses. As long as the US is sending money and weapons the Ukrainian Oligarchs have agreed to continue the war. The US could care less about Ukraine. The US and European leadership is ONLY interested in advancing the Liberal Hegemony.

    • @luziosalles324
      @luziosalles324 9 дней назад

      Exactamente

    • @FairladyS130
      @FairladyS130 9 дней назад

      And if Putin was out of the picture and an agreement can be made the war will stop. So why do you think it should be Zelensky, do you forget that it's his country that is being invaded?

    • @derikuk2967
      @derikuk2967 7 дней назад

      Ukraine has no say in this war. It is conducted by NATO from Brussels and Washington on behalf of Wall Street.

  • @Tony-o4c
    @Tony-o4c 10 дней назад +3

    When will this stop? Is too much now. Human lives is not video game to play with. God intervenes any time soon as human pride is not letting them to respect humanity 🙏

  • @agricolaurbanus6209
    @agricolaurbanus6209 10 дней назад +6

    Lecturing Russians about the "dangers of it's actions" instead of warning the instigators, his own government, about the dangers of it's actions. Blaming it all on Russia, just the same as the warhawks do. A 'realist'.
    And always this pedagogic"we". Name the rider of the horse. Or does he consider himself a member of the oligarchy?🥴

  • @juanluistostadocanales3955
    @juanluistostadocanales3955 10 дней назад +1

    That is right Professor

  • @operator9858
    @operator9858 9 дней назад +1

    we arent exactly prepared for such a thing and what would the objectives even be if we did go in? and dont think theres much appetite for it anyways.

  • @oktagon10
    @oktagon10 9 дней назад +1

    Comment to support this channel.

  • @mojojojo1529
    @mojojojo1529 7 дней назад

    And it would not be a war just between the two superpowers, because the Americans would drag in their European allies, and Russia's allies would also step in if they saw a favorable opportunity.

  • @verastefanovich2973
    @verastefanovich2973 9 дней назад

    Thank you for your insight and wisdom gentlemen's!
    From Serbia 🇷🇸
    with love !❤

  • @gelbaits8362
    @gelbaits8362 9 дней назад +2

    its easy to see what will happen. just imagine the dumbest thing for the u.s. to do

  • @bumblebee9337
    @bumblebee9337 10 дней назад +1

    So it may be necessary, or there will be a temptation, to insist that Rump Ukraine will be joining NATO. At which point Russia has to make a decision.

  • @swaransingh2827
    @swaransingh2827 6 дней назад

    Why not handover Ukrain to Russia. Let them repair it and hold election to help reestablish democratic institutions.

  • @juansantana8448
    @juansantana8448 7 дней назад

    In my opinion, the war is already too obviously fought between US/NATO and Russia, and unless the US wants a nuclear war with Russia, it will not send US soldiers to fight Russia in Ukraine. I furthermore feel Russia should take over Odessa, and all lands East of the big River, if it is to prevent Ukraine serving as a future military base for the West (mainly the US/NATO military)

  • @juanluistostadocanales3955
    @juanluistostadocanales3955 10 дней назад

    Educate them Professor

  • @darrena5666
    @darrena5666 8 дней назад

    The Dems be like if we don’t win we’re gonna start a nuclear war. Yes, they are that crazy

  • @alastairmcmurray4873
    @alastairmcmurray4873 8 дней назад

    Daniel, please dig out the ‘battleground’ podcast, it has a new episode each Friday. I’d like you to comment on their perspective which is ridiculously pro Ukraine!

  • @SIM2014
    @SIM2014 7 дней назад

    If player 3s intentions were based on a defensive position and the primary objective is kept to securing Ukraines border and there is no ulterior motive at play outside of event 1 (feb2022) there would by plus factor be a defensive move made, however the likelihood of that happening would have been early on in the undeclared war as it appears there is already a cause between player 1 and 3 prior to event 1 (where 3 has already been in an offensive position as a player operating by a primary objective still to be achieved by another objective other than coming to Ukraines rescue. (And that objective is the neos focus on extracting player 1 specifically. 😉))
    SIM analysis:
    When you have a chain of events in connection, where creation of a latter event is used to effect the score of the earlier one, to prevent escalation, the focus in order to achieve the primary objective would be focus on the earlier event (considering the moves and units of measure already being made by the players.
    Further, the moves made by the players given first moves already put the player into the offensive position and the ruleset given the assumption of that position.

  • @FairladyS130
    @FairladyS130 9 дней назад

    Where is the information that Russia would do this or that because it seems clear that Putin is driving this war . Of course he is being supported but perhaps only until such support loses it's attraction for various reasons, indications of this possibility have arisen since the Kursk intrusion.

  • @aj2228
    @aj2228 8 дней назад

    russia is able to strike US soil. the US would try to convince european countries to fight, but would not directly fight russia.

    • @swaransingh2827
      @swaransingh2827 3 дня назад

      @@aj2228 Both US & Russia can strike each other. Both possess ICBM’s and high end secret delivery systems. But when it comes to nuclear strikes it’s going to be free for all despite accurate early warning systems. Even nuclear countries like Pakistani, India, North Korea can wreck havoc but the scenario of nuclear war may start with small tactical strikes . It depends what kind of tactical nuclear weapons US, China, Russia have developed secretly. Hope they sort it out diplomatically.

  • @lianasammartino8490
    @lianasammartino8490 8 дней назад

    I think the Russians now want Odessa, Kerson and kiev...

  • @dramulyakudchadkar
    @dramulyakudchadkar 9 дней назад +1

    UKRAIN LOST WHAT IS YOUR VIEW WHAT NEXT

  • @JaiRudraNath
    @JaiRudraNath 8 дней назад

    How did Russia lose Kursk and unable to take it back until now ?
    This does not add up to the theory that Russia is superpower

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      I guess the forests around Kursk are not their first priority, it is big headache for Ukranians since they gambled so much of their quality resources on it and failed.

    • @JaiRudraNath
      @JaiRudraNath 5 дней назад

      @@robrob9050 - it is not about forests .. it is about your self dignity and moral of people..
      Just because Alaska is less populated and icy, that does not mean China will come with a flag there ..
      it’s another matter U.S was an expansionist power that unified the land by means of force historically.. annexed territory from Mexico, Hawaii and others ..

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      @@JaiRudraNathUkranians wasted their best ressources like Germans pushing through Ardennes 1944 hoping for miracle without air cover. It did not worked well.

  • @elroz1675
    @elroz1675 9 дней назад

    well, considering how many men Ukraine has mobilized, and will scratch the bottom of the barrel if they need to, and NATO will payroll them with weapons - I don't think it will collapse. It is being driven back steadily and gradually and that's what it looks like is going to be happening. around 6-10 square kilometers per day is the rate of its retreat during the May-August period.
    Will NATO come in? Why would they want to lose troops and jets and the high rate? Do you think all NAO countries are willing to do this? Of course not. That's not why they joined NATO,so their troops can die in the East in large numbers. US, Uk, and Poland might be crazy enough, but how long will they tolerate high casualties?

  • @jabbarcorrales
    @jabbarcorrales 9 дней назад

    with all due respect to the host and interviewee, if I have learned anything from all this war and political analysis shows on RUclips, is that war really is "Old men talking , young men dying."

  • @debasismohanty1952
    @debasismohanty1952 9 дней назад

    These experts are never going to praise the Ukrainian military 😂😂 they also forget Ukrainian military fighting against worlds second strongest military Russia

  • @robertgriggs4171
    @robertgriggs4171 8 дней назад

    The war is not popular in the usa. There would be problems doing this.

    • @derikuk2967
      @derikuk2967 7 дней назад

      Who cares what the people want? It is government of the exploited masses by the elitist inner circles, for the elitist inner circles.

  • @rosalinethomas4665
    @rosalinethomas4665 5 дней назад

    You spend your time worrying about Russia instead of paying your debt to China. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @rafffization
    @rafffization 8 дней назад

    Just look at the map behind

  • @steve-mark12v31
    @steve-mark12v31 8 дней назад

    The US has no chance of defeating Russia, ever.

  • @andreipetrov4850
    @andreipetrov4850 9 дней назад +1

    There will be an ultimate push for negotiations on the Rus side after they take THE 4 districts (oblasts) voted for re-union. B t w, 2 of them are yet way far from Dnepr river (>100kms). Two southern ones have territory on the right bank BUT the Rus might not even try to cross, rather divide them “naturally”. Conditions for negotiations will be rather more favourable for Ukr. (Not the same but as impressive as in Istanbul). You will be surprised. No matter how much Rus blood was shed in previous wars in different areas of Europe, Rus will never be back to the territories they have ever been, they (as a society) KNOW it no matter how nostalgic they might feel about it. Odessa won’t be back. Even Transnistria might be subject of further negotiation.
    There is no strength nor enthusiasm about war in Russia, please stop making up “dangers” of Rus unlimited expansion up to the confrontation with N.a.t.o. The Rus perception of war is “necessary evil” or “lesser evil”. Never ever changed. No enthusiasm nor strength for “world’s permanent revolution” there. Those times long over… (Some oligarchs are profiteering of course, as usually, but in 100 times lesser scale than the U.S oligarchs)…
    To generalize further, to what extent is this conflict territorial? Initially, territorial goals were NOT announced by the Rus. No NATO, no n.a.z.i, no military (limited), no ethnical cleansing of Rus population in the East - those goals were posted (no matter how silly nor uncertain they look). Territorial question came with the 4 oblasts formally voted. The “hidden” goal of course was the land bridge to Crimea. That was about IT. The brains of Professor’s caliber should not focus on prospective of big powers nuking each other (there is Dr. Ritter :-) for that) but rather how to cool down to new narratives: what new form of co-existence of the “collective west “ and “developing East (rest of the world)” could be.

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      I think you are reincarnation of Baba Vanga..predicting future is tough business, you realize that?

    • @andreipetrov4850
      @andreipetrov4850 5 дней назад +1

      @@robrob9050 my comment was not to compete in predicting nor argue with the respected host and guest. It was just a reaction on their presentation, the analysis and the data; and their prognosis respectively. The data and analysis seems to be always way better than the part of “synthesis” - their predictions seem to be too generic and too optimistic (like Odessa and Dnepro). Need more detail

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      @@andreipetrov4850 I will give you one example. Serbia was capable to wage war for almost 10 years with very corrupred leadership, totally isolated , economically, militarily with destroyed economy (santions worked from day 1 plus inability to legally trade apart from smuggling) Russia is only isolated from the West not from the Glonal South and China, with capable bunch of technocrats, sanctions (favorite, easy, cheap tool of the West) does not work, it goes relatively well for them on battlefield, and Russians
      as nation are historically willing to suffer greatly when their nation is in danger, how you gonna defeat them, what negotiations? Maybe - if the oligars start missing Londongrad and sunny beaches of France ?

  • @jackzgb1232
    @jackzgb1232 9 дней назад

    It seems to me that the Russians juggle the battlefield quite well. The Ukrainians brought (brought back from Kursk) reinforcements and began to defend Pokrovsk (which is actually already losing its importance because it can hardly be the main logistical hub while it is being bombed).
    The Russians (so it seems to me) instead of attacking Pokrovsk, stopped there and attacked in places such as the river Oskol (Pivnichne) in the north-west near Kupjansk and Siversk (Verhinekamiansk), then south of Pokrovsk near Kurakhovo (command center for that area) and further south-west near Vuhledar.
    “If he sends reinforcements everywhere, he will everywhere be weak.” - Sun Tzu, the Ukrainians have concentrated near Pokrovsk, and the Russians are striking in other places and beating lightly near Pokrovsk, so that the Ukrainians don't think to move to other places.

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      Did Sun Tzu wrote that attacking cities is worst possible strategy? Forgot that😂

    • @jackzgb1232
      @jackzgb1232 5 дней назад +1

      @@robrob9050 Even smart man from time to time can make mistake🙂

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      @@jackzgb1232 Everybody do that. Still have hard time to grasp that major war is going on.

  • @jant.carlsson5061
    @jant.carlsson5061 7 дней назад

    With all the sharp minds in America, it's a pity that they never come near the White House.
    By the way, Odessa is a Russian city. The pearl of the Black Sea was constructed under the reign of Katarina the Great in the 18th century. There's nothing Ukrainian there. It was the communists who created the Soviet Republic of Ukraine and included what was known as New Russia (Novorossiya) in the Russian em.pire. In fear of Russian chauvinism, the communists gave away big chunks of Russsia to the new republics they created. Odessa must be brought back to Russia where it truly belongs in order.to avoid a future conflict. It's none of USA's business. NATO has been so strategically outsmarted in this war, so it should be considered mad to interfere further in Ukraine. But with either of the two candidates in the White House, eveything is possible.
    🇸🇪❤️🇷🇺✌️

  • @bromisovalum8417
    @bromisovalum8417 10 дней назад +2

    Get right with God, the Great Chastisement is here.

  • @jdesmo1
    @jdesmo1 6 дней назад

    blahblahblah

  • @JohnSmith-we5bm
    @JohnSmith-we5bm 9 дней назад

    Back in February/March of 2022, some elements of the Russian military were able to penetrate into Kiev city getting to the Kiev Zoo, which was just 2.5 miles from the Geographic center of Kiev. They were thrown back, but from February 25 to March 24, Russian troops were engaged in intense fighting on the West, North, and Eastern suburbs of Kiev city. Even with Kiev nearly surrounded, fighting within the city, the United States and NATO did not intervene. If Ukraine was to be completely taken over by Russia within 10 weeks as originally believed by many, the plan was to then supply and support a Ukrainian insurgency against Russian Occupation. As long as Western Aid continues to flow to Ukrainian forces, there is really no chance of a Ukrainian collapse. Russia has still failed to remove Ukrainian forces from its own territory in Kursk after a month, and the offensive towards Pokrovsk has been stalled for 1 full week now. If the Russians really have some large strategic reserves, they have already been committed or certainly don't exist in the numbers and capabilities that have been alleged.

    • @jackzgb1232
      @jackzgb1232 9 дней назад

      BTW, 6 days of "radio-silence" in the Western media during which the Ukrainian mapping project (Deep State) did not update anything because it was necessary to create a beautiful picture of the success of the Ukrainians so that "Zelensky, the world champion from Nigeria (prince) Mail" can suck more money, than of course taxpayers of the West and especially the only and most powerful Superpower dear to us. Ramstein, meeting, September 6th 2024. That's why Syrsky had an interview (CNN September 5th 2024) in which he lied to Christiane Amanpour's eyes without blinking an eye.
      Although I'm not Russian, just to say in Russia they have a wonderful name for this kind of PR performance: "Potemkin's Villages"

    • @marvinpratt257
      @marvinpratt257 9 дней назад

      Timing is everything, location as well...

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      What insurgency? With thousands of drones above their head?

    • @JohnSmith-we5bm
      @JohnSmith-we5bm 3 дня назад

      @@robrob9050 There is already an insurgency in Russian occupied Ukraine.

  • @Spencerlayne
    @Spencerlayne 10 дней назад +2

    The berlin wall, but in the middle of ukraine. The Ukraine wall

    • @derikuk2967
      @derikuk2967 7 дней назад +1

      Dnepr moat.

    • @Spencerlayne
      @Spencerlayne 7 дней назад

      @@derikuk2967 sounds a lot better. But yh so true

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 5 дней назад

      Nope. Walls are sign of weakness, strategy of buying time, lack of bold ideas proven time and time again from Chinese, Roman wall in Great Britain, Berlin Wall to Israeli wall against Palestinians. If they have brains they would close on Kiev. Few states survived fall of their capital.

  • @DTJKS.
    @DTJKS. 10 дней назад +2

    In light of recent DOJ revelations, it's fair to ask how much Russia is paying these two guys. Both work tirelessly every day for Russia.

    • @henrylicious
      @henrylicious 9 дней назад

      Right. Because the DOJ has such a great history of being correct...

    • @DTJKS.
      @DTJKS. 9 дней назад

      @@henrylicious In this case the facts are plain. RT is guilty as charged. My only question is whether the likes of Mearsheimer, Mercouris, Ritter and Macgregor are feeding from the same trough.

    • @marvinpratt257
      @marvinpratt257 9 дней назад

      ​@DTJKS. :
      The trough of Reality & Truth....