A while back I was talking to a friend who now primarily focuses on ceramics sculptures and I was talking about my desire to have my painting get looser. She said "just use a stick..." What I loved about her advice wasn't that it would work or not work for me but that she was so practical about how to approach making something... I loved all the art you showed here.
These videos are greatly appreciated. They help me learn about the contemporary art world & give more insight than gallery & art fair walk throughs. Blessings. Peace. Love wins.
Some of these pieces are very easy to produce, without the need of a lot of technical skills, just attached to fancy explanations of what the pictures depict. Based of what factors do art critics evaluate which are good works and which are not? Would be really interesting to understand.
I do marquetry painting and have been exploring mark-making using a scalpel on wood veneer before applying the pigment. Thank you for the video and the summary of the artists. Now I can quickly explore this topic even further
I LOVE marks! Looking at them and painting them. I love all the artists you talk about in this video. Habe you heard of Jason Craighead? Hes one of my favourites too. Marks are awesome and so expressive, this was a great video thank you!
This is wonderful to see . great video I'm not an abstract lover by any means I'm a figurative painter but abstract is very inspiring particularly when it comes to color and Mark making.
Hi Julién and all. This is good and the offer to break down… trends… is educational I feel since artwork has been in categories looking ‘back’ in history. That’s one major way we learn it. It’s one perspective that is widely used. I often wonder from whence these movements arise and when do they take on enough significance to then obtain a name. Mark -Making to me… feels very natural and I relate to itvery much. Like minimalism… it takes a certain internal confidence and stillness to authentically create with minimal marking. The question I pose is… was it Cy Twombly creating what he did… then with its uniqueness… he gave it this name… for the sake of verbal discourse in the Art World…then further artists create… keeping in mind… that they too are markmaking artists… ?All the very best… Sincerely, Janet
Hi Janet, absolutely! It is how we learn art history and it is also how look at art today. I agree completely with your assessment of mark-making. I do not believe Twombly labeled his work as such, nor do some of the artists that come after him. It occurs organically, and the influence trickles on and these terms emerge by artists, critics, institutions, to address these ways of painting or styles. Stay in touch!
@@contemporaryartissue And of course… there must be others that recognize that Mark Making in the participation of artists for centuries in Asia where the calligraphy is considered an individual art and mastery….So good to hear from you and see other’s comments.🙏
I am just struck by the Twombly influence. It seems he is more current now than he was when he was current. I have always considered him to be one of my favorite artists.
As an abstract artist, I wish I could appreciate some of these more than I do, but honestly I don’t ‘feel’ them at all. They feel like part of a journey which is unresolved on the canvas.
With the exception of Cy Twombly and Julie Mehretu, the other Artists' mark-makings are simply contrived.This"trend" seems to breed laziness in expression.
My observation of ‘current trends’ in the Contemporary Art world… would they be… use of natural pigments… Art From the Earth … and this 80’s colorful theme… often very dense paintings or translated to installations… including a resurgance of pink? Sincerely, Janet
Cy Twombly wasn't the first mark maker but he sits, with DeKooning, at the apex. Everyone else is, well... everyone else. The quality of work from both of these artists throughout their careers was superlative. Unfortunately, new artists today can't compete with the greats of the past. Sure, protest, but it doesn't change facts. For instance, Julie Mehretu's early work was physically layered, adding depth, subtlety, and elegance to her themes. Her current, more direct mark making with spray paint on bare canvas falls flat. To call out the drop in quality, however, is to challenge the powerful elite system of power brokers. Speaking truth to power is taboo. "Greatness" in art is often believed to be subjective and yet artists, critics, and historians argue for consensus. History is brutal but one of the thing's I love about art is that no matter the fashion, quality eventually rises to the top. In the 21st century, for instance, figurative artists continue to wrestle with Francis Bacon, to no avail. We've seen the million dollar price tags of paintings sold at auctions who are pale imitators of Bacon. Again, "mum's the word." The same holds true for abstraction. Try as artists might to move the dialogue beyond Mondrian, Rothko, Twombly, & DeKooning, these efforts are largely laughable. Of course, there are exceptions. For instance, in figurative art there's the brilliant work of Neo Rauch and Mark Tansey. With abstract art, I've been disarmed by the oddly germane but disarmingly beautiful monochrome paintings of Joesph Marioni, and Peter Halley exposed the banality of the spiritual. To go one step further, is there an identity based artist today as great as Basquiat or as poignant as Felix Gonzales-Torres? I'm not naive. The art world isn't built by a handful of artists. The system must be fed. The new must be generated faster than I type this paragraph. The art world is an emperor with no clothes. In post-modernism, all voices are equitable and mute at the same time. Read the latest New York Time's article, "Young Artists Rode a $712 Million Boom. Then Came the Bust." While we the privileged argue about the relevancy of art.... the world is being destroyed.
In my opinion, Pierre Soulages, a French artist who died in 2022, in his works reached the final philosophical point of all abstractionism, which emerged from the horror of the Second World War, postmodernism and dehumanization. Black canvases in which light plays the main role, emptiness modulated by meanings, fullness and simplicity in "absence". All abstractionism that comes after him is children's drawings, an attempt to breathe life into a dead man. I highly recommend getting to know Pierre Soulages, an unrivaled creator.
Pierre Soulages is one of my favorite artists, especially for his all-black paintings. However, I disagree that this was the final philosophical point of all abstraction. The idea of a final point is part of modernism's obstinate legacy, and its dogmatic belief in progress and innovation is seen as teleological. Change/progress and innovation are not linear but cyclical or even dialectic-hence the impossibility of reaching a final point. Abstraction is not dead, but modernist thinking is. Thank you for sharing these interesting thoughts!
@@contemporaryartissue Well yeah, I said "final point" and "dead" for expressiveness :), I meant that the conditions under which abstraction as we know it today, in which it felt comfortable and justified, have almost disappeared (because the world has changed), and we are faced with new mythologemes and problems. For example, impressionism is certainly not dead, but it works differently and has a different function than 100 years ago. As a form, abstraction is very capacious, even possibly infinite, but should we get lost in this infinity? Or in other words, emptiness (as Pierre Soulages showed)? Looking at how the world, AI, technology are developing, we can assume that soon we will not need any art at all, but only colored pictures with brand names... If this happens, then I will miss abstraction 😂
"Almost sensory"? 1:43 In what way is the immediate experience of art anything other than sensory? Yes I realize that we process the sensory experience and take the experience beyond sensory, but certainly any artistic technique is intended to have immediate impact on our senses first.
I agree that (almost) every single experience of art is sensory-in the first place. However, some artworks are experienced in a more philosophical, conceptual, emotional or spiritual manner. With mark-making, the emphasis remains on the sensory. Thank you for tuning in!
@@contemporaryartissue Sorry, but this is a absolutely a mistake. An artistic technique is never first experienced as philosophical, conceptual, emotional or spiritual. Lets say I tell you that there is an artistic display in the next room behind these closed doors. Now, without me explaining anything about the art installation, not even who made it, you tell me the philosophical, conceptual, emotional and spiritual import of the work. Art is always immediately sensory, and then layered with reason after the fact.
How much of a relationship, if any, is between Mark-Making to Stimming from ADHD? I was speaking with someone that deals with adhd cases. I mentioned my work process which has a bit of mark making, or repetitive actions and she associated it to Stimming.
Hello fellow creatures 😊 I'm having a hard time classifying my art...all I've been told is that I have a very different style/that they've never seen my style before?? So then that's not helpful for classifying it lols...any tips?? 😢😅😊❤ Peace and Love
Ive never liked Twombly's Artwork. As an artist myself I know that its mark making . But for me personally thats where it ends . Maybe because of the scale of his work makes or draws in the spectator into the illusion that its something more than what it actually is. If the same mark making was on an A4 peice of paper in a sketchbook by a student it would be dismissed instantly as a scribble.
You may have seen Martha Jungwirth's work. I discovered her work in Paris a couple of years ago, super interesting. She often works on cardboard attached to canvas for the 'feel" of it. She has a rich long practice of mark marking, and her work is very interesting and finally getting attention.
I love abstract art, and I am an abstract artist myself - but these artists are just really boring, and feel really "held back" to really create something. Unlike the master Cy Twombly, who really let himself do emotional work on canvas...
Thank you for sharing your honest thoughts; they are always most welcome! Personally, I am really captivated by all these artists and their marks. As I mentioned in another comment here, when I see them, I feel them, deeply. Have a great day!
I'd love to see a video on contemporary paintings of women compared with historical paintings of women. Are nudes still popular? Are there many artists who show what a contemporary woman's life is really like? I'd like to know who those artists are.
Sometimes in the name of arts, artists and critics give inflated opinion to something which is Nothing. It is just like " Cloths of the King" story. Enjoy Everybody 😭😭😭😭😭
With the exception of Cy Twombly and Julie Mehretu, the other Artists' mark-makings are simply contrived.This"trend" seems to breed laziness or copyist and unoriginality in expression.
Hi there, thank you for tuning in and for sharing your honest thoughts-most welcome! I do genuinely think all artists are original and different and have their own merit. Have a great day!
@@contemporaryartissueI believe that the Artists you chose to highlight in your video (outside of Cy and Julie) because their particular workings give example of your topic of "mark-making." So to that credit, I looked up the Artists to see more of their work. And I was rather disappointed that there is a lack of "different" and "originality". As an Artist, I hold to the teaching and encouragement of rigorous practice and working in the specific areas of Painting, Sculpting, and Drawing. Thank you for sharing.
In my humble opinion, I feel the spray guns used by Grosse create a certain distance between the artist's touch and the painting. With mark-making, the transfer is a lot more direct, human, and almost a metaphysical trace of the artist.
Feels like an element in the making process of a 'real' painting. Paintings about marks don't move me. Paintings with original expressive marks in service of a theme or story....... appeal, to this writer, anyway.
In my humble opinion, the marks are original and expressive and can serve a theme or story. But they can also be the subject itself-which is of course something else. Thank you for tuning in and for sharing your honest thoughts!
Oh here he goes again, talking to nobody but that silly metal thing. He's a crazy dude but he's my human. I'll sit down and have a snooze. Wake me up when you're done, I need a walk. Great video again, thanks Julien.
imo art is not primarily for edification it is for the development of mankind, thats why new art in total is very hard to understand and without knowledge of art history and some psychology it is nearly impossible to understand modern art.
I have never used AI, only a text to speech program to narrate the videos making them sound robotic/artificial indeed. However, once I decided to host the videos myself, we sorted this out completely. Thank you for watching
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A while back I was talking to a friend who now primarily focuses on ceramics sculptures and I was talking about my desire to have my painting get looser. She said "just use a stick..." What I loved about her advice wasn't that it would work or not work for me but that she was so practical about how to approach making something... I loved all the art you showed here.
These videos are greatly appreciated. They help me learn about the contemporary art world & give more insight than gallery & art fair walk throughs. Blessings. Peace. Love wins.
Loved this, thank you for introducing us to these artists. There is something incredibly vulnerable about their work.
I agree 100% 🎯 Thank you for tuning in, the pleasure is all mine.
Some of these pieces are very easy to produce, without the need of a lot of technical skills, just attached to fancy explanations of what the pictures depict.
Based of what factors do art critics evaluate which are good works and which are not? Would be really interesting to understand.
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One of my favourite exhibitions was Turner Monet Twombly Later Paintings at Tate Liverpool in 2012.
I feel Basquiat is a noteworthy painter whose mark making is iconic. Though it wasn’t exclusively his style
I do marquetry painting and have been exploring mark-making using a scalpel on wood veneer before applying the pigment. Thank you for the video and the summary of the artists. Now I can quickly explore this topic even further
“Art is what you can get away with”
I LOVE marks! Looking at them and painting them. I love all the artists you talk about in this video. Habe you heard of Jason Craighead? Hes one of my favourites too. Marks are awesome and so expressive, this was a great video thank you!
Thank you for this!
The pleasure is all mine! Thank you for watching
This is wonderful to see . great video I'm not an abstract lover by any means I'm a figurative painter but abstract is very inspiring particularly when it comes to color and Mark making.
I had no come across some of these artist…thank you for your presentation
Beautiful video, thank you!
Thank you so much for tuning in, have a great day!
Hi Julién and all. This is good and the offer to break down… trends… is educational I feel since artwork has been in categories looking ‘back’ in history. That’s one major way we learn it. It’s one perspective that is widely used.
I often wonder from whence these movements arise and when do they take on enough significance to then obtain a name.
Mark -Making to me… feels very natural and I relate to itvery much. Like minimalism… it takes a certain internal confidence and stillness to authentically create with minimal marking.
The question I pose is… was it Cy Twombly creating what he did… then with its uniqueness… he gave it this name… for the sake of verbal discourse in the Art World…then further artists create… keeping in mind… that they too are markmaking artists… ?All the very best… Sincerely, Janet
Hi Janet, absolutely! It is how we learn art history and it is also how look at art today. I agree completely with your assessment of mark-making. I do not believe Twombly labeled his work as such, nor do some of the artists that come after him. It occurs organically, and the influence trickles on and these terms emerge by artists, critics, institutions, to address these ways of painting or styles. Stay in touch!
@@contemporaryartissue And of course… there must be others that recognize that Mark Making in the participation of artists for centuries in Asia where the calligraphy is considered an individual art and mastery….So good to hear from you and see other’s comments.🙏
Got to love Julie Mehretu. I appreciate how in her interviews she's not trying to sell a narrative or explain her artworks more than necessary.
Thank you for sharing these insights on the 5 artists…
Sorry to miss the live stream. Great Video again Julien.
No worries at all, thank you for tuning in once more! 🙏
It happens on Sunday mornings, during church time; I can never watch live. Idols? But thankfully the videos are available to watch later.
Thank you, much appreciated
Very interesting and well done
🌞👍 Thank you!
The pleasure is all mine! Wishing you the very best and thank you for tuning in
Wow, amazing and spectacular work
I am just struck by the Twombly influence. It seems he is more current now than he was when he was current. I have always considered him to be one of my favorite artists.
Absolutely! Twombly changed abstract painting, and it took the art world a couple of decades to realize the doors he had opened. Visionary!
@@contemporaryartissueTwombly? Seriously?!
Rediculous.
*ridulous
Nice video as always! 👍
Big thanks! 🙏
As an abstract artist, I wish I could appreciate some of these more than I do, but honestly I don’t ‘feel’ them at all. They feel like part of a journey which is unresolved on the canvas.
That is a powerful feeling in itself.
@@jacobjones6922 possibly for the artist, but not for me
With the exception of Cy Twombly and Julie Mehretu, the other Artists' mark-makings are simply contrived.This"trend" seems to breed laziness in expression.
@@artistmajor all art is "simply contrived". aint nothin' pure yo.
@@artistmajor agree
My observation of ‘current trends’ in the Contemporary Art world… would they be… use of natural pigments… Art From the Earth … and this 80’s colorful theme… often very dense paintings or translated to installations… including a resurgance of pink?
Sincerely, Janet
Great list 🙌
Thank you so much! 🙏🙏
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Nice to meet you, too. The pleasure is all mine!
Cy Twombly wasn't the first mark maker but he sits, with DeKooning, at the apex. Everyone else is, well... everyone else. The quality of work from both of these artists throughout their careers was superlative. Unfortunately, new artists today can't compete with the greats of the past. Sure, protest, but it doesn't change facts.
For instance, Julie Mehretu's early work was physically layered, adding depth, subtlety, and elegance to her themes. Her current, more direct mark making with spray paint on bare canvas falls flat. To call out the drop in quality, however, is to challenge the powerful elite system of power brokers. Speaking truth to power is taboo.
"Greatness" in art is often believed to be subjective and yet artists, critics, and historians argue for consensus. History is brutal but one of the thing's I love about art is that no matter the fashion, quality eventually rises to the top.
In the 21st century, for instance, figurative artists continue to wrestle with Francis Bacon, to no avail. We've seen the million dollar price tags of paintings sold at auctions who are pale imitators of Bacon. Again, "mum's the word." The same holds true for abstraction. Try as artists might to move the dialogue beyond Mondrian, Rothko, Twombly, & DeKooning, these efforts are largely laughable.
Of course, there are exceptions. For instance, in figurative art there's the brilliant work of Neo Rauch and Mark Tansey. With abstract art, I've been disarmed by the oddly germane but disarmingly beautiful monochrome paintings of Joesph Marioni, and Peter Halley exposed the banality of the spiritual. To go one step further, is there an identity based artist today as great as Basquiat or as poignant as Felix Gonzales-Torres?
I'm not naive. The art world isn't built by a handful of artists. The system must be fed. The new must be generated faster than I type this paragraph. The art world is an emperor with no clothes. In post-modernism, all voices are equitable and mute at the same time.
Read the latest New York Time's article, "Young Artists Rode a $712 Million Boom. Then Came the Bust." While we the privileged argue about the relevancy of art.... the world is being destroyed.
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In my opinion, Pierre Soulages, a French artist who died in 2022, in his works reached the final philosophical point of all abstractionism, which emerged from the horror of the Second World War, postmodernism and dehumanization. Black canvases in which light plays the main role, emptiness modulated by meanings, fullness and simplicity in "absence". All abstractionism that comes after him is children's drawings, an attempt to breathe life into a dead man. I highly recommend getting to know Pierre Soulages, an unrivaled creator.
Pierre Soulages is one of my favorite artists, especially for his all-black paintings. However, I disagree that this was the final philosophical point of all abstraction. The idea of a final point is part of modernism's obstinate legacy, and its dogmatic belief in progress and innovation is seen as teleological. Change/progress and innovation are not linear but cyclical or even dialectic-hence the impossibility of reaching a final point. Abstraction is not dead, but modernist thinking is. Thank you for sharing these interesting thoughts!
@@contemporaryartissue Well yeah, I said "final point" and "dead" for expressiveness :), I meant that the conditions under which abstraction as we know it today, in which it felt comfortable and justified, have almost disappeared (because the world has changed), and we are faced with new mythologemes and problems. For example, impressionism is certainly not dead, but it works differently and has a different function than 100 years ago. As a form, abstraction is very capacious, even possibly infinite, but should we get lost in this infinity? Or in other words, emptiness (as Pierre Soulages showed)? Looking at how the world, AI, technology are developing, we can assume that soon we will not need any art at all, but only colored pictures with brand names... If this happens, then I will miss abstraction 😂
"Almost sensory"? 1:43 In what way is the immediate experience of art anything other than sensory? Yes I realize that we process the sensory experience and take the experience beyond sensory, but certainly any artistic technique is intended to have immediate impact on our senses first.
I agree that (almost) every single experience of art is sensory-in the first place. However, some artworks are experienced in a more philosophical, conceptual, emotional or spiritual manner. With mark-making, the emphasis remains on the sensory. Thank you for tuning in!
@@contemporaryartissue Sorry, but this is a absolutely a mistake. An artistic technique is never first experienced as philosophical, conceptual, emotional or spiritual. Lets say I tell you that there is an artistic display in the next room behind these closed doors. Now, without me explaining anything about the art installation, not even who made it, you tell me the philosophical, conceptual, emotional and spiritual import of the work. Art is always immediately sensory, and then layered with reason after the fact.
How much of a relationship, if any, is between Mark-Making to Stimming from ADHD?
I was speaking with someone that deals with adhd cases. I mentioned my work process which has a bit of mark making, or repetitive actions and she associated it to Stimming.
Hello fellow creatures 😊 I'm having a hard time classifying my art...all I've been told is that I have a very different style/that they've never seen my style before?? So then that's not helpful for classifying it lols...any tips?? 😢😅😊❤ Peace and Love
Salamat po
My pleasure!
I can only see imitators of late De Kooning here.
Ive never liked Twombly's Artwork. As an artist myself I know that its mark making . But for me personally thats where it ends . Maybe because of the scale of his work makes or draws in the spectator into the illusion that its something more than what it actually is. If the same mark making was on an A4 peice of paper in a sketchbook by a student it would be dismissed instantly as a scribble.
You may have seen Martha Jungwirth's work. I discovered her work in Paris a couple of years ago, super interesting. She often works on cardboard attached to canvas for the 'feel" of it. She has a rich long practice of mark marking, and her work is very interesting and finally getting attention.
Huh, maybe I should return to my own lineart style again. I've been in an artistic slump.
Go for it! It happens to most artists, but if you overcome it, you'll feel even stronger. Have a great day!
brisa amir from the philippines! mark making via frottage to archive community history
Thank you for watching!
I love abstract art, and I am an abstract artist myself - but these artists are just really boring, and feel really "held back" to really create something. Unlike the master Cy Twombly, who really let himself do emotional work on canvas...
nah, maybe if you see them in person...
Thank you for sharing your honest thoughts; they are always most welcome! Personally, I am really captivated by all these artists and their marks. As I mentioned in another comment here, when I see them, I feel them, deeply. Have a great day!
I'd love to see a video on contemporary paintings of women compared with historical paintings of women. Are nudes still popular? Are there many artists who show what a contemporary woman's life is really like? I'd like to know who those artists are.
Sometimes in the name of arts, artists and critics give inflated opinion to something which is Nothing.
It is just like " Cloths of the King" story.
Enjoy Everybody 😭😭😭😭😭
With the exception of Cy Twombly and Julie Mehretu, the other Artists' mark-makings are simply contrived.This"trend" seems to breed laziness or copyist and unoriginality in expression.
Hi there, thank you for tuning in and for sharing your honest thoughts-most welcome! I do genuinely think all artists are original and different and have their own merit. Have a great day!
@@contemporaryartissueI believe that the Artists you chose to highlight in your video (outside of Cy and Julie) because their particular workings give example of your topic of "mark-making." So to that credit, I looked up the Artists to see more of their work. And I was rather disappointed that there is a lack of "different" and "originality". As an Artist, I hold to the teaching and encouragement of rigorous practice and working in the specific areas of Painting, Sculpting, and Drawing. Thank you for sharing.
LIterally Katharina Grosse.
In my humble opinion, I feel the spray guns used by Grosse create a certain distance between the artist's touch and the painting. With mark-making, the transfer is a lot more direct, human, and almost a metaphysical trace of the artist.
Feels like an element in the making process of a 'real' painting. Paintings about marks don't move me. Paintings with original expressive marks in service of a theme or story....... appeal, to this writer, anyway.
In my humble opinion, the marks are original and expressive and can serve a theme or story. But they can also be the subject itself-which is of course something else. Thank you for tuning in and for sharing your honest thoughts!
@@contemporaryartissue there's also asemic practice and literature.
Oh here he goes again, talking to nobody but that silly metal thing. He's a crazy dude but he's my human. I'll sit down and have a snooze. Wake me up when you're done, I need a walk.
Great video again, thanks Julien.
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Oh to have been Twombly. To wake up each day and explode onto canvas with zero inhibition. It still takes my breath.
imo art is not primarily for edification it is for the development of mankind, thats why new art in total is very hard to understand and without knowledge of art history and some psychology it is nearly impossible to understand modern art.
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I clicked on an older video for this channel and it was horrendous AI. Unexpected as it seemed a serious channel currently.
I have never used AI, only a text to speech program to narrate the videos making them sound robotic/artificial indeed. However, once I decided to host the videos myself, we sorted this out completely. Thank you for watching
Kids can do it ahaha
I get it but….its just like talking a lot but not saying…..or, like forgetting what you were trying to….happenstance…..walking away half way thr…….eh
I am just seeing children’s graffiti on the wall
It’s just because they all kept their inner creative child 🙂
Tf is even this
B...sht
Fantastic video, thank you!!