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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

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  • @TimelineChannel
    @TimelineChannel  4 года назад +46

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    • @locksleygottshalk2167
      @locksleygottshalk2167 4 года назад +3

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    • @delmarhassail8106
      @delmarhassail8106 3 года назад +2

      @Chuma Safari Kamanga boss is up raul and wind love is key 6

    • @winstonliburd5639
      @winstonliburd5639 3 года назад +1

      @@locksleygottshalk2167 and

    • @jamest1242r
      @jamest1242r 3 года назад +1

      Do one on the Benin Wall. A wall that is 4x greater and bigger than the Great Wall of China. It was created in ancient Benin City Nigeria.

    • @agbontaenosagie4542
      @agbontaenosagie4542 3 года назад

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  • @mxolisakwe4222
    @mxolisakwe4222 3 года назад +108

    I'm Xhosa who's also a Bantu. I have listened to one of the greatest philosophers of our time Mr Credo Vusuzulu Mutwa. He explained how special Southern Africa is, because it is the beginning of the man-kind and civilization. I think these archeologists need to consult with the real people of the area and get the oral history documented.

    • @accountretired9479
      @accountretired9479 3 года назад +10

      Then you got white South Africans trying to be clever and saying they got here before us as if we don't know our history, they have even managed to confuse coloureds and made them believe that they all are Khoi-San's and that those people are not black

    • @senzenimang1354
      @senzenimang1354 3 года назад +13

      @@accountretired9479 exactly the lies & mis information that comes from them is very sickening

    • @HellenMathias
      @HellenMathias 2 года назад +2

      Mr.Credo Vusuzulu Matwa is greatly honored and he will never be forgotten 🙏 ❤

    • @dietlindvonhohenwald448
      @dietlindvonhohenwald448 2 года назад +1

      I have seen the interviews with Credo Mutwa and his sculptures he made of visitors from other worlds; it’s so amazing.

    • @childofthesoil1163
      @childofthesoil1163 Год назад

      U think the colonizers are interested on telling the truth about u .they are here to destroy &steal & kill they have destroyed everything about us

  • @cantalibre4708
    @cantalibre4708 5 лет назад +328

    As an Archaeology student, I spent some time with UP at Mapungubwe. It is the most magical and awesome place in Africa. What a privilege.

    • @dann_mrtins
      @dann_mrtins 5 лет назад +6

      What did you find there? Are there full stone huts or only ruins? Artefacts? I wanna know

    • @d4prez338
      @d4prez338 5 лет назад +26

      It’s no artifacts, those are gravesites! How carnal can you’ll be? Have some respect! ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽

    • @MahipiTV
      @MahipiTV 3 года назад +15

      Looters

    • @moosa9850
      @moosa9850 3 года назад +6

      What was the DNA markers of the bone fragments found at the site, would be greatly appreciated?

    • @h.m.5724
      @h.m.5724 3 года назад +16

      So as an archaeologist why do you people hide the fact that it was built by the Shona people of Zimbabwe. Yes the same people who built Great Zimbabwe

  • @macnutz4206
    @macnutz4206 5 лет назад +391

    It is remarkable that an entire continent of people can be viewed with and treated with so little respect. It is disgusting.
    I am glad to see that contemporary archaeology has become much more scientific in its approach, and less destructive in its methods.

    • @jamestcatcato7132
      @jamestcatcato7132 5 лет назад +6

      @Judy Snyder Do you think you're fooling anyone?

    • @NietzscheWasRight
      @NietzscheWasRight 5 лет назад +1

      @@jamestcatcato7132 No. they honestly believe this

    • @elleboucher
      @elleboucher 4 года назад +18

      First Nation people (North America) had their burial site and other sites co-opted by places like the Smithsonian....their culture destroyed in many of them.

    • @damiandossantos5077
      @damiandossantos5077 3 года назад +5

      come visit us in sunny south africa and see for yourself jou ma se poes

    • @عقبةبننافعبنالقيسالفهري
      @عقبةبننافعبنالقيسالفهري 3 года назад +3

      @@jamestcatcato7132 lmao keep lying to self

  • @derrickclater6523
    @derrickclater6523 5 лет назад +137

    So much hidden history from us and our kids its up too us too learn and teach our kids of our rich past👍😔

    • @mlungesto26ikl31
      @mlungesto26ikl31 4 года назад +4

      Mapungubwe and Great Zimbabwe are part of the Grade 6 history curriculum in South Africa.

    • @rodongo5221
      @rodongo5221 3 года назад +6

      There is no time to relive the past. We must focus on moving forward and catching up with the rest of the world while ensuring that the needs of our societies are fulfilled.

    • @airheadgoddess2985
      @airheadgoddess2985 3 года назад +3

      Look up Tariq Radio and Ashra Kwesi

    • @nutznchocolates56
      @nutznchocolates56 3 года назад

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    • @nutznchocolates56
      @nutznchocolates56 3 года назад

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  • @mphomakekemba4695
    @mphomakekemba4695 3 года назад +120

    what pains me is that the history of Mapungubwe is not taught in south african schools. i am a Venda person from Limpopo but i have never been there .....i shall go and visit my Ancestors at the Great Mapungubwe

    • @leom2025
      @leom2025 3 года назад +7

      We are betrayed by our very own leaders

    • @tinyiko2949
      @tinyiko2949 3 года назад +19

      it is taught we leant about Mapungubwe in social science when we were learning about ancient civilizations including Mali, Ghana, China and Mesopotamia.

    • @maiaallman4635
      @maiaallman4635 3 года назад +3

      My child in gr7 homeschooling is learning about Mapungubwe.

    • @charlesspeaksthetruth4334
      @charlesspeaksthetruth4334 3 года назад +2

      @@maiaallman4635 That's awesome. The Kingdom of Mali or The Kingdom of Kush are some other great African civilizations you may want teach for Homeschooling. The Kingdom of Aksum is another great one.

    • @bigpoppapump1794
      @bigpoppapump1794 3 года назад +3

      Think about it... " They won't teach us nor speak about it because then, they would have to explain their involvement in a lot of instances " 💯

  • @h.m.5724
    @h.m.5724 3 года назад +114

    I hate it when these so called intellectuals continue to disseminate false information. Mapungubwe means stones of the fish eagle. Mapungu meaning fish eagle and -bwe meaning stone. What they try to hide from everyone is the fact that the same people who built Mapungubwe also built Great Zimbabwe. Even the words themselves are closely similar

    • @patriciajiri3699
      @patriciajiri3699 3 года назад +10

      You are right they were the same people, there's too many similarities to ignore the connection.

    • @Last_Growl
      @Last_Growl 3 года назад +4

      False narrative all the time.

    • @simonpheveni8709
      @simonpheveni8709 3 года назад +4

      thank you. and the people are the Venda

    • @craigspirit1431
      @craigspirit1431 3 года назад +2

      It is well known that the karanga people started at mapangubwe and then moved to zimbabwe. Both slave capture and ivory trade centers

    • @simbausore6902
      @simbausore6902 3 года назад +9

      In Shona (spoken in Zimbabwe) Mapungubwe also means the same. The singular bird is Chapungu while plural is Mapungu. Bwe being stone. This even the name Zimbabwe (House of Stone- Zimba meaning large house). The Venda and the Karanga who occupied the great Zimbabwe are definitely one. It’s no coincidence that the Black Jews in SA (Balemba) are found mostly among the Venda and the Varemba are among the Karanga residing mostly in Mberengwa, a place in the province of Masvingo that’s home to the Karangas.

  • @ThusoB
    @ThusoB 4 года назад +115

    When is University of Pretoria , returning our Gold?

    • @pholosomakgato8298
      @pholosomakgato8298 4 года назад +10

      Brah! And when are they burying all those remains they dug up and stored in dey private museums de

    • @ThusoB
      @ThusoB 4 года назад +2

      @@pholosomakgato8298 It is not Uhuru.

    • @accountretired9479
      @accountretired9479 3 года назад +3

      @@ThusoB Sengenzeni???

    • @01stefb1
      @01stefb1 3 года назад +8

      When will we find out the truth of Africa and our people!

    • @rickevans3959
      @rickevans3959 3 года назад

      If they are lucky the Mbantu entitlement will let them work in the mines.

  • @ephraimphiri5789
    @ephraimphiri5789 3 года назад +459

    Its sad that our colonizers have to tell us about our own history...that's how much lost we are!!

    • @senorrumpelkolk4177
      @senorrumpelkolk4177 3 года назад +15

      Alloth of european, ancient world historie is also forgotten

    • @Dkthearn
      @Dkthearn 3 года назад +8

      Yeah but a lot of them are archaeologists too that are of your people look at what goes on in Egypt it's pretty interesting

    • @Dkthearn
      @Dkthearn 3 года назад +7

      You're right a lot of it needs to be looked back at

    • @bostonxxbbf3016
      @bostonxxbbf3016 3 года назад +2

      It's would be .. how lost*

    • @unknowngirlul2344
      @unknowngirlul2344 3 года назад +32

      There are African historians to take your history RELIABLY from like Sankofa and Hometeam History on RUclips.

  • @SandraNelson063
    @SandraNelson063 6 лет назад +98

    I took Classical Studies in university. We took a course in archaeology. I never got a chance to do any field work, but I have a deep respect for the folks who do it. And I could cheerfully fling Gardiner and his pals off the edge of the site, along with the wheelbarrows. There is no scholarship, no useful knowledge gained when someone claiming to be doing an archaeological dig is really engaged in government sanctioned looting.

    • @Paul-gz5dp
      @Paul-gz5dp 5 лет назад +2

      True, and many of them refuse to even acknowledge anything that does not fit with what they are looking for. Such as there were white people here 45,000 years ago, but they all died out long ago more than 14,500 years ago. That is before the last ice age.

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 5 лет назад

      @James Registe Why are you so hostile in this?

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 5 лет назад

      @James Registe Dealing with a zealot?

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 5 лет назад

      @James Registe riiiiight... okay, sure.

    • @choptdup
      @choptdup 5 лет назад +6

      Paul The SL24A5 gene mutation for pale skin complexion is only about 8k years old and around 45/50k years ago the gene that would go on to be European was still in Africa.

  • @FromNothing
    @FromNothing 2 года назад +26

    13:06 why does he keep incessantly saying chief? The man he's describing is a KING. Literally a king. He rules over a KINGDOM. He has an army, nobles, commoners, trade, currency, etc. He is literally a king in every right. It is agonizing to see so many people blindly refer to these people as chiefs just because they are African.

    • @ccss5448
      @ccss5448 2 года назад +1

      Evaluating a cultures use of meaning in language, using your own cultures language as a measuring tool? You’ll always be disappointed

  • @azwiamani8775
    @azwiamani8775 3 года назад +26

    The dance of ladies holding each others elbows is called Domba, I'm a very proud venda

  • @intsikayethu495
    @intsikayethu495 3 года назад +27

    We need this history to be talked about more often. We recently launched a channel about African heritage an culture🙆🏿‍♂

    • @nkhen_c357
      @nkhen_c357 3 года назад +1

      What is the name of the channel

    • @intsikayethu495
      @intsikayethu495 3 года назад

      @@nkhen_c357 It`s called Intsika Yethu , the same as our profile

  • @mikhailmaimoonahoward
    @mikhailmaimoonahoward 3 года назад +200

    I find it very odd that a group of people would leave their continent go into another continent and then tell the people who have been there from the beginning that they had nothing to do with the civilizations within it🤦🏾‍♀️.Denial is a disease.

    • @Tahoe756
      @Tahoe756 3 года назад +9

      Well while people in other continents were building great powerful empires Africans were still living tribal live styles

    • @bernadetblack2871
      @bernadetblack2871 3 года назад +39

      @@Tahoe756 which was.very comfortable until your grandfather invaded with a gun.

    • @missceebrownin
      @missceebrownin 3 года назад +4

      I tell you!! I don't even know if there's an actual word for that... Gets me every time. 🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @Tahoe756
      @Tahoe756 3 года назад +10

      @@bernadetblack2871 I’m sure getting eaten by lions, dying of disease and tribal wars was very comfortable

    • @caliz56
      @caliz56 3 года назад +1

      @@bernadetblack2871 Indeed.

  • @therealgodessisis
    @therealgodessisis 4 года назад +58

    25:00 Archeologists, self styled experts, lying about the origin and the race of the people who have created the artefacts they have uncovered. This is why I go to African experts for African History.

    • @domdomjob2959
      @domdomjob2959 3 года назад +2

      Why don’t African experts do documents to counter the perceived lies by foreigners . If Africans don’t tell their stories then the falsehood or perceived truth will always be perpetrated by the foreigners.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      MANY AFRICAN ARCHAEOLOISTS DONT KNOW ABOUT IT EITHER !

    • @gregkosinski2303
      @gregkosinski2303 3 года назад

      Flying pyramids and such

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      @@gregkosinski2303 DID THEY FLY? WHY WOULD THEY LAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESRT SURROUNDED BY AFRICAN YAHOO,S ?

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      @@gregkosinski2303 THEY FLY?
      HMMM

  • @edmondmugoni4552
    @edmondmugoni4552 4 года назад +133

    In the Shona language of ZIMBABWE, "Mapungu" means, "Fish eagles" and "Chapungu" means one fish eagle. Mapungu Bwe, means the stone of the fish eagles, or the rock of fish eagles. It may also mean the fish eagles made of stone or belonging to the stone or rock. It is usually written as one word, MapunguBwe. Just like Zimba Bwe, means a big house of stone. "Zi" means great or bigger. iMba is one normal sized or usual house. ZiMba, prefixed with Z, or Zi is a great or big house. "Bwe" is a rock or stone in the Shona language of Zimbabwe. Zi = big, mba=house, Bwe = rock/stone. If put together, ZiMbaBwe, means, BigHouseofStone. Correctly written, the country of Zimbabwe, should be spelt, ZiMbaBwe. MapunguBwe, is clearly Shona derived, and it means stone or rock of the Big fish eagle, "Chapungu," or many fish eagles, maPungu, "Mapungu, Bwe can be conjoined as is usual in Shona to be a single word, Mapungubwe, just like whats done with Zimbabwe and many other words such as va sekuru becomes vasekuru, va zukuru = vazukuru. Va kuru = vakuru.

    • @thabelodavhana
      @thabelodavhana 4 года назад +10

      It is derived from Venda it means hills of jackals.

    • @reckonroy7987
      @reckonroy7987 3 года назад +2

      @@thabelodavhana unobva wanyatsoti chiKaranga ka nhai wangu

    • @reckonroy7987
      @reckonroy7987 3 года назад +2

      unobva wanyatsoti chiKaranga ka nhai wangu

    • @KorpusV6
      @KorpusV6 3 года назад +5

      @@thabelodavhana the Vendas even made the Zimbabwean birds if I'm not mistaken.

    • @h.m.5724
      @h.m.5724 3 года назад +1

      @@KorpusV6 you're indeed mistaken

  • @jojo5818
    @jojo5818 5 лет назад +39

    Of course if you worth yourself by putting other people's down, you will feel threatened and intimidated at some point. And this is what we are witnessing today...

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      YES ! WE ARE PUTTING DOWN THE WHITE MAN BECAUSE WE ARE INTIMIDATED !! YOU ARE SO RIGHT ! JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE INTELLIGENT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING !

  • @mengistok
    @mengistok 3 года назад +114

    So sad, and shocking. How such great ancestors can be dug up just like that, in the presence of their living children. 😢😢

    • @ronewasikhathi8794
      @ronewasikhathi8794 3 года назад +14

      It really is just disrespect.

    • @KernowekTim
      @KernowekTim 3 года назад +16

      Disgraceful behaviour. No good will come of such sacrilege. White greed for precious metal artefacts is fathomless. Here in U.K our ancient burial mounds were long ago defiled. If you or I dug up just one of these peoples old relatives looking for plunder, we would be jailed and publicly denounced as common grave-robbers.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +1

      THATS THE LAWS !! WHO MAKES THE LAWS FOR THOSE PLACES ? THE LOCALS DO !!

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything 3 года назад +3

      @@KernowekTim What an self loathing individual you are. White greed... how about we stop digging up history. Would that be fine with you?

    • @blacktaxcollective5299
      @blacktaxcollective5299 3 года назад +3

      @@ReasonAboveEverything if whites as a collective group weren't so genocidal they wouldn't have to dig up graves and defile the dead... they could communicate with the natives like humans. Everyone doesn't dig up graves...that is something that is exclusive to eurasian archeology.... just like no one thought to build nuclear weapons until the barbaric common denominator did so.

  • @angiethompson9549
    @angiethompson9549 2 года назад +2

    Thankfully we now have our eyes opened and many men and women are researching our history.
    HomeTeam History is one such Site n RUclips.

  • @varietyhardware6211
    @varietyhardware6211 5 лет назад +32

    Mapungubwe was build by Zimbabwe descents, however it shows how intertwined Africa is. We are one people

    • @engineer3126
      @engineer3126 Год назад

      it was built by vhangona/bakoni,

  • @thedondigitalmediagroup3861
    @thedondigitalmediagroup3861 4 года назад +29

    As an African who aligns himself with the notion of Spirituality rather than religion. I strongly believe in the Hindu concept of the Akashic Records.The Akashic Records are believed to be a sort of cosmic library of knowledge about our past, present and future (the Book of Life). Similar to the aborigine concept of Dream-time. i believe that the true history of Africa as spiritual beings who are one with mother nature is found in the spirit world. When we dream, we tap into that cosmic library of the universe and we communicate with our ancestors, whom also have come from the earth and they guide us through these records.
    you can be shown your past, present and future. you can be taught also many life lessons and be warned of coming danger and prosperity. you can be taught how to heal sickness and disease etc.
    it is believed that only the chosen ones / those who are initiated as wisdom keepers can tap into these records and understand what they are being shown. They then bare the responsibility of conveying the knowledge to their communities.
    That is why African history was never written. It has always been found in the spirit world by those who had the ability to access it.

    • @korionterivers9995
      @korionterivers9995 4 года назад

      It’s all in the Akashi records!! It will come to you if you search for it

    • @missceebrownin
      @missceebrownin 3 года назад

      This is interesting, I must do some research on this 💯💯

    • @royday6827
      @royday6827 3 года назад +1

      The Basic Information Before Leaving Earth...shows us to Endure ...hardness as a good soldier [2 Tim 2:3] Hatred ...of evil and evil spirits [Ps 139:22] Knowledge ....not be ignorant [2 Cor. 2:11] Persistence ... abilty to go on resolutely or stubbornly in spite of oppression. [Ps 18:37] Separation ..No man who wars entangles hiself with the affairs of this life. [2 Tim 2:4]

    • @royday6827
      @royday6827 3 года назад +2

      We have been granted access through repentance, faith, salvation and power [Act 1:6-11] which came on [Act 2:1-13]

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      WRONG !!!

  • @melodyjettoo5658
    @melodyjettoo5658 3 года назад +12

    I was brought up in SA and had no idea about this site or it’s significance and did not learn about this in history. I loved this documentary and it is a shame how much was lost in order to keep a false philosophy of control alive.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      YOU WERE BROUGHT UP IN SA AND IT TOOK A EUROPEAN TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT !! THATS THE PROBLEM WITH AFRICANS !! THEY LET OTHERS DO THE STORY TELLING !

    • @mmzunlondblond2658
      @mmzunlondblond2658 3 года назад

      A shame ???? Family of that race traitor mandela??

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      @@mmzunlondblond2658 YES MANDELLA , MALCOLMX ECT ARE ALL TRAITORS !!

    • @lesego2933
      @lesego2933 2 года назад

      How come you didn’t, Because they teach this in Grade 6??

  • @constantiadennison32
    @constantiadennison32 3 года назад +7

    We have a rich history and yet our kids know nothing about it, thanx Timeline for your effort in teaching the world.

  • @tokkieandrews9988
    @tokkieandrews9988 3 года назад +5

    Very interesting ,love the history .

  • @mossleoka9279
    @mossleoka9279 5 лет назад +89

    Our government - the department of Arts & Culture - should drop its head in shame for allowing non-Africans to present such a distorted picture of our country's history.

    • @resilience4lyfe331
      @resilience4lyfe331 5 лет назад +5

      moss leoka how about for showing them the way up the hill to begin with?! How about for helping them destroy the place? Not current government- the people themselves... I don’t understand... guess you had to be there... I wouldn’t have helped. Now they even have your ancestors bones? Wow... at least Germany gave that back to Namibians

    • @Nokss_20
      @Nokss_20 3 года назад

      EXACTLY!

    • @Nokss_20
      @Nokss_20 3 года назад

      @@resilience4lyfe331 mind your own business.

    • @masjm7278
      @masjm7278 3 года назад +1

      @@resilience4lyfe331Civilization BEGAN in AFRICA the SPHINX said so, Even NAPOLEON could not CHANGE a thing just FACTS!! ,so ALIENS Civilisation in SOUTHREN AFRICA is not a Surprise,

    • @KernowekTim
      @KernowekTim 3 года назад +7

      Agreed. To say that Africans lacked the ability to mine and smelt gold, is utterly stupid. The Iklwa of Shaka Zulus' Impis were made from quality steel. The Zulu used the metallurgic skills of their vassals to create these stabbing assegais in countless hundreds of thousands. Prior to this, iron working had been in constant use for many generations before the arrival of Europeans on African soil. With such knowledge, indigenous Africans forged the iron tools that enabled them to dress masonry. Such masonry skills were employed in the great civil engineering projects of their times; Great Zimbabwe being but one of these.

  • @philliplyn2692
    @philliplyn2692 3 года назад +7

    Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

    • @Handsome.Liberian.African
      @Handsome.Liberian.African 3 года назад

      That's the flag of our kidnapped relatives country by white Supremist who can be both black and white. Every empire declined. I am proud to be african

    • @139fulton
      @139fulton 2 года назад

      @@Handsome.Liberian.African❤🖤💚

  • @Miss9ja
    @Miss9ja 5 лет назад +10

    malemba long live malemba long live africa

  • @aamalrahim5597
    @aamalrahim5597 7 лет назад +13

    A timeline documentary on something close to home...yay!

    • @csaw5173
      @csaw5173 6 лет назад +1

      if it was factual it would be great BUT unfortunately NOT!

    • @anitaneal6986
      @anitaneal6986 5 лет назад +1

      Don't worry about what they think that should tell you they are trying to find out where they came from ask the creator and stop living it's not going to help you you know you couldn't have no organ there the 🌞 don't play games with you it is a reminder to you the creator knew this would happen so that's why you will be put out all over this Earth if you don't make a change so l know you won't be warned you see the earth is warming up more and more you have no defense from the Ray's of the 🌞 that's the defense from the sun your war is with nature and the universe shame on those liears what does a man profit to gain the whole world and loose his soul you all are sad and that's why your days on this Earth is numbered

  • @loriepaix6391
    @loriepaix6391 3 года назад +53

    "fell victim to the expansionism of the Europeans" is such a polite and delicate way to say "white people invaded their lands and killed or enslaved them, erasing their culture".

  • @iamtheoriginallionessden3065
    @iamtheoriginallionessden3065 5 лет назад +232

    I think it's time to go dig up some of the European ancestors desecrate those Graves and see what secrets they hold.

    • @tonyalanmarchant7330
      @tonyalanmarchant7330 5 лет назад +8

      They do!!white pple are innately good!can u imagine the world with the technology that we have today.without anglo saxons .it would be mayhem!!!other pples do encroach on there neighbour

    • @d4prez338
      @d4prez338 5 лет назад +27

      Speak the truth! They have no business there 😡

    • @aaronhoward922
      @aaronhoward922 5 лет назад +8

      Nothing

    • @JUBABU4
      @JUBABU4 5 лет назад +29

      Tony Alan Marchant technology as you know it is not new. Technology has been and still is suppressed.

    • @tysonafrika5268
      @tysonafrika5268 5 лет назад +7

      can't just take that they were 'burial' civilised until just recently. when did they start burying their dead?

  • @robinconkel-hannan6629
    @robinconkel-hannan6629 5 лет назад +50

    No one knows what other civilizations are yet to be found in Africa and elsewhere.. New finds are frequent and each one adds to our knowledge of the past.. It is hubris to think that any one find gives us complete knowledge of the past..

    • @ruthnovena40
      @ruthnovena40 3 года назад +1

      This is so true.

    • @jeromebowers7510
      @jeromebowers7510 3 года назад

      Most new finds that tries to dispell the old ones are fake.

    • @romeoselatole4734
      @romeoselatole4734 3 года назад

      Are you trying to say that there could've been other non-african looking civilizations that helped build this glorious kingdoms? I just want to understand you better...

    • @shanegedula8183
      @shanegedula8183 3 года назад

      Read....The Destruction of a Black Civilization..

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      EXACTLY ! THEY JUST FOUND A EUROPEAN TEMPLE THAT IS 7000 YEARS OLDER THAN ANY AFRICAN PYRAMID !! KNOWLEDGE CHANGES EVERY YEAR !!

  • @mosestogarepi2427
    @mosestogarepi2427 3 года назад +10

    mhungubwe-jackal, chapungu-fish eagle, pungura-flinting or make less. shona and venda are one, but lived side by side with sotho as one people

    • @engineer3126
      @engineer3126 Год назад +1

      The Venda language arose from interactions with Sotho-Tswana and Kalanga, vhongona/Bakoni in sotho are majority of modern day vendas today, within venda community majority actually have sotho ancenstory

    • @mosestogarepi2427
      @mosestogarepi2427 Год назад

      Is it true then that Kalanga is not a language but was just the name of Zwide Kalanga @@engineer3126

  • @regolith1350
    @regolith1350 3 года назад +32

    5:42 “Islamic seafarers were attracted by trade opportunities along East Africa’s coast since before the birth of Christ.”
    This is obviously wrong. Islam didn’t exist until 7 centuries AFTER Christ, which means there were no such things as Islamic seafarers or Islamic anything, by definition. I wonder what else they got wrong.

    • @robertuahanahindjou3387
      @robertuahanahindjou3387 3 года назад +1

      Thank you Regolith!!!

    • @RankinMsP
      @RankinMsP 3 года назад +1

      It is clearly an error bit do find other reasons to discredit what is otherwise a very good documentary.

    • @lindareed8265
      @lindareed8265 2 года назад

      Same thoughts.

    • @h.chappelle2720
      @h.chappelle2720 2 года назад

      Most likely invaders, and they ruined the wildlife there. Unlikely a tribe that respects their nature and makes gold sacred objects out of hippos would sell off the nature to such an extent unless threatened. It is possible that the tribes that Islam evolved from were the seafarers. Before Mohammad became a great prophet, he was a trade person on ships, and Mohammed was said to be from a wealthy family of chieftains, or whatever they are called. It is possible those tribes wore similar outfits as the Islamists later. This is not my area of study, just a suggestion for the confusion.

  • @adreabrooks11
    @adreabrooks11 3 года назад +11

    I love how evocative the opening narrative to this documentary is! Stellar writing like that is a dying art in documentaries.

  • @RendaniNetshirungulu
    @RendaniNetshirungulu 2 года назад +4

    Proudly Venda, I am proud of my ancestors

  • @boukmankaymanboimanrevolis3615
    @boukmankaymanboimanrevolis3615 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you for the clarification of. The mother land

  • @RendaniNetshirungulu
    @RendaniNetshirungulu 3 года назад +15

    I am a proud Venda man, yet we are told our ancestors were uncivilized yet they were mining gold and trade it

    • @Leo-uq8ch
      @Leo-uq8ch 2 года назад

      It was built by shona people , the shona inhabited this place

    • @htprince3729
      @htprince3729 2 года назад +1

      @@Leo-uq8ch Vhangona People

    • @rabelanitambani8603
      @rabelanitambani8603 2 года назад

      @@Leo-uq8ch VHANGONA PEOPLE BUILT IT, STOP LYING

    • @rudzanimunyai2090
      @rudzanimunyai2090 2 года назад +1

      @@Leo-uq8ch Venda People ruled Mapungubwe, Shona is new name Vhangona is the oldest. Not only Vendas, Shona lived in this kingdom here but Pedi people as well. It was a diverse kingdom of Bantu people.

  • @muriwangul.chinyerere5381
    @muriwangul.chinyerere5381 3 года назад +3

    Great document. One I can really connect to.

  • @thandekaletlalo8192
    @thandekaletlalo8192 3 года назад +2

    Mambo va no tamba va chi pembera va ka farisisa. Amen.

    • @ossie500
      @ossie500 3 года назад

      Pure Shona there.

  • @bill4all782
    @bill4all782 3 года назад +9

    In Zimbabwean Karanga language which is a Shona dialect,Hungubwe means Jackal therefore Mapungubwe possibly means the place or the stones of the jackal,that is stones inhabited by the jackal.The Venda,Kalanga and numerous Shona dialects extending into Mozambique are closely related as they were possibly satellite kingdoms of the Mwenemutapa empire.The small kingdoms paid tribute to the paramount chief whose title was Munhumutapa.They established several trading posts which battered gold,ivory etc for tools,pottery, guns and cosmetic items like beads and mirrors.Their trade port was Sofala in present day Mozambique and the Capital started off as Mapungubwe and then was moved to Madzimbabwe or Great Zimbabwe,meaning house of stone.Its quite fascinating that the satellite kingdoms called the Kings in their own language like King Sororenzou would be known as Thohoyandou in Venda,Mambo Chirisamhuru would be known as Mambo Tjilisamhulu in Kalanga

  • @nancyvolker3342
    @nancyvolker3342 7 лет назад +60

    more African history please...

    • @Marmocet
      @Marmocet 6 лет назад +6

      The problem is, Sub-Saharan Africans who never came into contact with Arabs didn't have written language, so their history only begins where Europeans started writing it down.

    • @AJost-sb8ux
      @AJost-sb8ux 6 лет назад +7

      whc.unesco.org/en/list/1099
      www.sahistory.org.za/article/mapungubwe
      Mapungubwe Cultural Landscape - UNESCO World Heritage Centre
      The Mapungubwe Cultural Landscape demonstrates the rise and fall of the first indigenous kingdom in Southern Africa between 900 and 1,300 AD. The core area covers nearly 30,000 ha and is supported by a suggested buffer zone of around 100,000 ha. Within the collectively known Zhizo sites are the remains of three capitals - Schroda; Leopard’s Kopje; and the final one located around Mapungubwe hill - and their satellite settlements and lands around the confluence of the Limpopo and the Shashe rivers whose fertility supported a large population within the kingdom.

    • @draco_1876
      @draco_1876 5 лет назад +15

      @@Marmocet false

    • @Marmocet
      @Marmocet 5 лет назад

      @Jugoba 777 Written language was introduced to almost all of Sub-Saharan Africa. Ethiopia is the exception.

    • @Marmocet
      @Marmocet 5 лет назад +2

      @Jugoba 777 And let's not forget the wheel either. Sub-saharan Africans never figured that one out either.

  • @samalimusoke4261
    @samalimusoke4261 5 лет назад +12

    I could imagine how they will describe this generation into 1000yrs.

  • @Munyabrwn
    @Munyabrwn 3 года назад +9

    Great Zimbabwe Will rise again🇿🇼 🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼

    • @caliz56
      @caliz56 3 года назад

      After they conquer their hunger and clean up the the disaster Mugabe left behind.

    • @Munyabrwn
      @Munyabrwn 3 года назад +1

      @@caliz56 yes, we'll fix everything

    • @caliz56
      @caliz56 3 года назад +1

      @@Munyabrwn I pray and hope that is done.For your people have suffered long enough under white rule and under your own people's rule as well.Mugabe did a lot of harm to the folks of your land.May God bless you and your nation.And that prosperity rain upon your people.

  • @The-three-eyed-Prophet
    @The-three-eyed-Prophet 3 года назад +1

    very very very good topic

  • @Hchris101
    @Hchris101 2 года назад

    very cool

  • @naglma
    @naglma 7 лет назад +236

    Islam before the birth of Christ. There was no Islam until at least the 6th century A.D.

    • @maryanneslater9675
      @maryanneslater9675 7 лет назад +38

      Yeah, the narrator's script is all over the place. Twelve hundred years of history tossed like a salad.

    • @nikkid4890
      @nikkid4890 7 лет назад +34

      naglma I agree. It's embarrassing and one wonders how much is truth and how much is propaganda

    • @adriandavies8097
      @adriandavies8097 6 лет назад +13

      When was Islam mentioned to exist before Christ?

    • @lagosian123
      @lagosian123 6 лет назад +13

      naglma you are deaf . Listen to homie again. Are Asians Islam? You white people are something else ...lol.

    • @anthonyfox585
      @anthonyfox585 6 лет назад +11

      lagosian how do you know they're even white?

  • @pamaskus3066
    @pamaskus3066 3 года назад +47

    For me to our young generation. BE WEARY OF THE CAUCASIAN NARATIVES. WHILE WE ARE HERE OURSELVES.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +3

      WHY? DO YOU THINK AN ASIAN MAN KNOWS MORE ABOUT ASIA THAN A ASIAN SPECIALIST WHO IS AUSTRALIAN?

    • @shelaghmckenna2667
      @shelaghmckenna2667 3 года назад +3

      @@salamjihad3449 Actually, yes. A culture cannot be understood from outside, and includes many accounts that are unfamiliar to outsiders.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +1

      @@shelaghmckenna2667 BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ANTIQUITIES SPECIALISTS.. THEY WENT TO AND STUDIES FOR YEARS ABOUT THESE THINGS. PEOPLE COULD LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PYRAMIDS AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM ! BUT A FOREIGNER COULD COME IN AND TEACH THE LOCALS THEIR OWN HISTORY !!

    • @shelaghmckenna2667
      @shelaghmckenna2667 3 года назад +3

      @@salamjihad3449 I do respect real learning, and I know that people who live in a region may not have the region's culture. I also know that much of this video acknowledges the lies that it chronicles as a history of research, both serious and fallacious, on the subject of Mapungubwe. But I also know, from personal experience, how the educational institutions where these outside researchers have studied ignore the testimony of people whose ancestors have lived in the region, testimony carried down from those ancestors, and how there are gaps in the knowledge of these outside researchers that would be filled if they had respect for that testimony. It is arrogant, and it is not scholarly, to ignore relevant information, especially from a source close to their subject. Also, they should know that there is a great deal to any culture, and that someone coming in from somewhere else is probably going to get many things wrong. They lack humility when they pose as experts on cultures that are not their own. Even if they have respectfully heard what its members have to say, they are unavoidably missing a great deal. I respect the discipline of their profession, and I value the science that comes in and looks at what is physically present, but there is much, much more to know that can be supplied only by someone who knows the culture from inside.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +1

      @@shelaghmckenna2667 I WOULD AGREE THAT SOME RESEARCHERS DISCOUNT THE STORIES CARRIED DOWN FOR GENERATIONS BUT GOOD RESEARCHERS DONT HAVE TO BE PART OF THE CULTURE IF THEY THEY TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERSTION . ITS JUST WHO YOU LISTEN TO. GRAM HANCOCK IS A GREAT RESEARCHER. HE TAKES THE OLD STORIES AND CUSTOMS INTO ACCOUNT ALSO. SO I STILL SAY YOU DONT "HAVE" TO BE PART OF THE CULTURE TO DO GOOD RESEARCH!

  • @nkanyezingcobo1220
    @nkanyezingcobo1220 3 года назад +4

    Imagine a body of knowledge embodied here not accurately documented. I know about all this information and lineage through dreams. Comments made here shed light and great input on my visions and largely why i find myself traveling amd establishing these contacts. Thank you.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +1

      THROUGH DREAMS ?

    • @interestedbabble7501
      @interestedbabble7501 2 года назад

      @@salamjihad3449 Do you do any reading? I see you down everyone's comment but add nothing to them. You dear are a spiritual being made of energy and as they say energy never dies.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 2 года назад

      @@interestedbabble7501 hmmm thats a very priative way of thinking about it !! your kind of on the right path

  • @thomascrownrg
    @thomascrownrg 3 года назад +1

    Our History and Truth are out there...
    we Cannot stop searching!

    • @jessicawiley30
      @jessicawiley30 2 года назад

      Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere??

  • @babygirlshari4223
    @babygirlshari4223 3 года назад +39

    I cant help to feel a bit of anger while watching this. They basically destroyed almost everything our ancestors left for us.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      IF WE WERNT SMART ENOUGH TO PROTECT IT THEN GIVE IT TO THE VICTORS !!

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +3

      WHY DOES THE AFRICAN COUNTRIES ALLOW THIS/

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +1

      DESTROYED? WHO?

    • @karaghanascythianslayer3822
      @karaghanascythianslayer3822 2 года назад

      @@salamjihad3449 Is that what your religion teaches you or is your self hate causing you to side with the devils out of fear of going against them?
      You are the worst kind of coward there is. If your mother was brutally raped & murdered would you really say “Well if she wasn’t smart enough to protect herself then it’s her fault”?
      I believe that is exactly what a natural born coward would say, so to answer my own question while in the process of asking it. YES! Yes you would.

  • @Gaminghouse463
    @Gaminghouse463 5 лет назад +19

    Some narratives makes the contents of this video questionable, it is good to have our history documented but must not be questionable in an obvious manner.

  • @Rotebuehl1
    @Rotebuehl1 5 лет назад +106

    Minutes 5:44
    "Islamic seafarers were attracted by trade opportunities along east Africas coast since BEFORE the birth of Christ"
    What an idiotic statement
    Islam only originated ca. 600 years AFTER Christ!
    LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL

    • @samuellee4192
      @samuellee4192 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah! Everyone knows that those seafarers were masquerading as traders, but they were actually looking for Atlantis

    • @asaenvolk
      @asaenvolk 5 лет назад +8

      There are a number of other mistakes and things that were over looked or a bit distorted, but that one certainly stood out.

    • @olaolga
      @olaolga 5 лет назад +8

      @Donny Brook just a reminder -- jews don't consider themselves white

    • @Paul-gz5dp
      @Paul-gz5dp 5 лет назад +8

      The Persians, and many others that are now Islamic were around long before Mohamed. Egypt was at war with many people from the sea, but they were not Islamic.

    • @poopfeast-kg1lv
      @poopfeast-kg1lv 5 лет назад +1

      @@Paul-gz5dp "islamic" lol

  • @joylawson49
    @joylawson49 3 года назад +11

    In those days we called excavation grave robbing and grave robbers, no one should go and disturb the deceased when they have laid to rest.

    • @139fulton
      @139fulton 2 года назад

      Thank you grave robbers

    • @h.chappelle2720
      @h.chappelle2720 2 года назад

      Yes, it looks like the graves were disturbed and should not have been. Yet, they do that often with ancient Egyptian mummies and relics, and when I see them in a museum, I think they want to be in the museum. It is not a nice thing to disturb a grave, but in today's world, one often does not know what will happen to the area involved, worse things can happen, and unknown gravesites being disturbed worse, and the remains not ending up in a museum or university, just lost forgotten or disposed of by accident. It is sad the graves were disturbed but at least they are preserved and taken care of. I am unsure if they are my ancestors, maybe a few of them are. It is very sad all of the wildlife that died. Maybe they should make a wildlife park. I love wildlife, and biodiversity. It is difficult to believe they would allow the decimation of wildlife or tress, etc.

  • @purplepill3732
    @purplepill3732 3 года назад

    Excellent !!! €ye actually learned something of Indigenous significance !!!!!

  • @joecaner
    @joecaner 3 года назад +17

    5:41 *"Islamic seafarers were attracted by trade opportunity along East Africa's coast since before the birth of Christ."*
    There weren't any Islamic seafarers before the birth of Christ.
    The founder of Islam wasn't born until almost six centuries later.

    • @caliz56
      @caliz56 3 года назад +3

      That is exactly what I heard and could not believe my ears.What a bs documentary.

    • @okamadlala
      @okamadlala 3 года назад +8

      I caught that as well, i assumed they most probably meant Arab. A lot of people confuse the words Arab and Muslim

    • @joecaner
      @joecaner 3 года назад +2

      ​@@okamadlala That would be my guess. They simply conflated a diverse peoples, "Arabs," who practiced a plurality of religions then and now, and a religion, "Islam" and lumped them all neatly into an easily digestible bite sized morsel while simultaneously collapsing time to accomplish this trick.

    • @FM-gu5kt
      @FM-gu5kt 3 года назад +1

      You deserve a Bell's.

    • @rondolo1
      @rondolo1 3 года назад +2

      Finally a fair criticism.

  •  7 лет назад +28

    Fascinating. Africa forever has been diverse and beautiful

    • @jarednewitt484
      @jarednewitt484 5 лет назад

      RicRokkka diverse????? The whole continent is black

    • @wimkotze7744
      @wimkotze7744 5 лет назад

      @@jarednewitt484 Nah, not the whole continent. Only seems like that because the Bantu has been breeding exponentially ever since white folks started feeding them.

    • @ahata7245
      @ahata7245 5 лет назад

      @@jarednewitt484 Since when? The word black itself is complex, some idiots use the word "colored"🐐mphehehehehehehe

  • @nelsontayengwa
    @nelsontayengwa 4 года назад +6

    13:00 he is on spot. The shona phrase is “Kukwira gomo hupoterera” . The metaphorical expression is still widely used in day to day language.

    • @michamash
      @michamash 4 года назад +2

      Oliver Mtukudzi has a song with the lyrics "Kukwira Gono kupotere Muzukuru". Man these people destroyed our history. Mapungugwe, Zimbabwe Ruins, Khami Ruins, Dlodlo, Danamombe, Lusvingo right into Northern Botswana today. The damage will too much, we will never recover from this.

  • @purplepill3732
    @purplepill3732 3 года назад +4

    "When you know yourself, you are empowered. When you accept yourself, you are invincible."

  • @NeoThabo
    @NeoThabo 2 года назад

    Great documentary. I enjoyed and learnt a lot. So good I watched twice.

  • @alainbissoon2280
    @alainbissoon2280 2 года назад

    Love it . Cape town

  • @4thQuarterMentality
    @4thQuarterMentality 3 года назад +12

    The price you pay when you dont unite against the enemy.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      THAT WHY THEY WON THE WAR AND YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING! WITH THE VICTORY OF WAR GOES THE PLUNDERS TOO !!

  • @Agboka
    @Agboka 5 лет назад +9

    Oh Great Mawu Sogbolisa, the creators of our great ancestors, is there any greater punishment for these strange intruders who had desecrated the final resting places of your servants?

    • @hannahbarbara6361
      @hannahbarbara6361 3 года назад

      Teach the names of ancestors....many have no God's because of the intruders....gather your forces.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      WHY WOULD THESE AFRICANS ALLOW SUCH THINGS ?

  • @leonardtshimangadzo6987
    @leonardtshimangadzo6987 3 года назад +5

    Yeap am venda and am very happy to see that my people vendas are being included in the history of the human achievement in the world world

  • @neverendingjourneystilllea5271
    @neverendingjourneystilllea5271 3 года назад

    Thanks

    • @jessicawiley30
      @jessicawiley30 2 года назад

      Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere?

  • @ripperrooh3759
    @ripperrooh3759 2 года назад

    This vid taught me so much.
    Thank you 👍💕😊

  • @nthabisengchabeli8055
    @nthabisengchabeli8055 3 года назад +4

    200 000 years ago we had metropolis in Southern Africa. Mapungubwe is one of the last cities... along with Kweneng and other settlements.

    • @Larrywhite00
      @Larrywhite00 3 года назад

      Lies. Mud huts.. nothing else

    • @Madmires
      @Madmires 2 года назад

      🤦🏿‍♂️...

  • @webexpert247
    @webexpert247 3 года назад +14

    At 5:42. How can there be "Islamic seafarers" before the birth of Christ when Islam itself started 600 years after Christ. That statement I believe was a mistake.

    • @winniethuo9736
      @winniethuo9736 3 года назад

      ☪️ suggests that Jesus prophesied the comforter who was to come after him and that M and he was to be the last prophet so, there is an error somewhere.

    • @winniethuo9736
      @winniethuo9736 3 года назад +1

      Nothing new. History has no room for African past. Africans will never live a whole life because their past is rubbished and deemed valueless. They are so fragmented by the past but the value of an African is still healthy-and insulated by their sincerity to the universe. He rises above it all in spirit. His conscience is his salvation nothing else.

  • @ndzimu-unamiemmanuelmoyo2028
    @ndzimu-unamiemmanuelmoyo2028 3 года назад +11

    Maphubgubgwe is actually a TjiKalanga Word for Place of the Jackal. I am amazed at how so many writers in this space deliberately or not seek to silence the Kalanga Narrative from the history of Southern Africa despite the fact that all pointers - Oral Traditions, Family Praise Names, Written Records and Archeology point to the Kalanga. You just need to look at the location of all the Nzimabgwe Cities. They are exactly where have always been settled, what is now the Venda, Matebeleland and the North East of Botswana.

    • @nehemiahmukwevho2644
      @nehemiahmukwevho2644 3 года назад +1

      Where do you place Vhangona people?

    • @thabelodavhana
      @thabelodavhana 2 года назад

      DUDE U DONT KNOW HISTORY OKAY U BUILT NOTHING DONT STEAL VENDAS HISTORY . KALANGAS DONT COME FROM EGYPT ONLY SINGOS AND LEMBAS COME FROM NORTH AFRICA WHICH IS TWO OF THE 4 TRIBES THAT FORMED VENDAS . MAPUNGUBWE IS A VHANGONA LANGUAGE . STOP CLAMING THINGS U DONT KNOW . APART FROM THINGS U CLAIMING WAT ELSE DID U BUILT IF WE REMOVE GREAT ZIMBABWE AND MAPUNGUNBWE WHICH IS AT THE MASVINGO LAND AS I SAID SINGO CAME FROM EGYPT , VENDA HAS ALOT OF THIS BUILDING MY FRIEND

    • @ndzimu-unamiemmanuelmoyo2028
      @ndzimu-unamiemmanuelmoyo2028 2 года назад +1

      @@thabelodavhana if you have to put across your point in capital letters like this there is a chance that you don't know what you talking about. In fact, what's more shocking is how ignorant you are of Venda history itself, let alone of who VhaKalanga are.

    • @htprince3729
      @htprince3729 2 года назад +1

      @@nehemiahmukwevho2644 Vhangona (VhaVenda) Are actually the original inhabitants of Mapungubwe and Zimbabwe

    • @truthseeker-dt8zf
      @truthseeker-dt8zf 2 года назад

      @@nehemiahmukwevho2644 could the 'Vhangona' also mean Vha nguni. Sounds the same.

  • @tangabiang5282
    @tangabiang5282 3 года назад

    Thanks!

    • @jessicawiley30
      @jessicawiley30 2 года назад

      Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere??

  • @terrellloutlaw3109
    @terrellloutlaw3109 3 года назад

    Hmmm interested in this

  • @BukalangaTv
    @BukalangaTv 3 года назад +22

    You're misleading people. Mapungubgwe was a Kalanga Empire

    • @maiaallman4635
      @maiaallman4635 3 года назад

      What does Kalanga mean?

    • @BukalangaTv
      @BukalangaTv 3 года назад +2

      @@maiaallman4635 a tribe

    • @rutendorusemo4792
      @rutendorusemo4792 3 года назад +7

      the kalanga in shona its Karanga. so MapunguBwe is also a shona word. I do not know when are you going to accept that we are one people. The Great Zimbabwe and the Mapungubwe ruins were built with particular southern african tribes which include the Karanga ( Shona people) the kalanga( the south african pple etc. Remember, AFRICA was a land without boarders, we are one people, the white pple divided Africa in a Berlin conference. REMEMBER THIS, WE ARE ONE PEOPLE

    • @obusitsekologwe1633
      @obusitsekologwe1633 3 года назад +1

      Exactly..that is not Sesotho but Kalanga

    • @htprince3729
      @htprince3729 2 года назад

      @@obusitsekologwe1633 It is also a Tshivenda word

  • @rexbrown2409
    @rexbrown2409 5 лет назад +34

    Absolutely sad, yet those land stll belongs to those intruders, who decimate a culture to plunder the graves of the dead.

    • @vatolocosforever803
      @vatolocosforever803 5 лет назад +1

      Sounds like what they did to the indigenous in the whole North America and South American continent

    • @NunayahBuisness
      @NunayahBuisness 3 года назад +5

      I'm pretty sure they said it's a national monument and the government of South Africa is run by black people now so I think it's as returned as can be.

    • @craigspirit1431
      @craigspirit1431 3 года назад +3

      Yes the bantu tribes invaded around 14century...

  • @cavemancaveman5190
    @cavemancaveman5190 3 года назад +4

    Omg the legends tell of grave robbery and an associated curse.

  • @Melanin_Move
    @Melanin_Move 2 года назад +1

    Well he did tell this story with more admiration in comparison to others.

  • @gwenkelly
    @gwenkelly Год назад +1

    @TimelineChannel I would like to cite this. What is the publication information for this documentary? Date? Location? Production? For material that his historical - this kind of basic information about the sources of the videos should be included in the description.

  • @robhaze184
    @robhaze184 7 лет назад +28

    How could Islamic Seafarers be attracted to (5:40) "East Africa's Coast since before the birth of Christ " if Christianity predates Islam?

    • @thorshammer8033
      @thorshammer8033 7 лет назад +11

      Rob Haze I think he meant Arab traders and slavers.

    • @polferiferus1938
      @polferiferus1938 7 лет назад +13

      I was going down here to point out the same thing: he should've said "Arabic"; clearly what was meant. I think it was the editors and writers for the show that missed this, as I doubt historians or archaeologists would've made such a fundamental blunder. I paused to comment; hoping there's no more of them…

    • @JoPrair
      @JoPrair 7 лет назад +2

      Picked this up as well. Simple error but these things need precise language.

    • @gogosolar21
      @gogosolar21 7 лет назад +2

      the production made an error there that should have been corrected. it could only have been Arab, since your point is correct.

    • @NegSteLucie
      @NegSteLucie 5 лет назад +1

      Probably meant Arabic seafarers.

  • @cuthbertjolly4859
    @cuthbertjolly4859 3 года назад +10

    Africans must do their own archaeology and anthropology. I believe that the greatest civilizations and empires that have ever existed in the world are buried under the sands and soils of Africa.

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +1

      MAYBE . BUT MOST OF THE WORLD HAD GREAT CIVILIZATIONS ALSO. SOME FOUND SOME STILL UNDISCOVERED !!

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +1

      AND OTHER CONTINENTS !!

    • @139fulton
      @139fulton 2 года назад

      The Continent of 🌍 has a rich history. Once the european arrived in Mother Africa the european had only one desire to divide conquer enslaved ravages etc

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 2 года назад

      @@139fulton ALL RACES DID THAT !!

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 2 года назад

      @@139fulton WHY DO YOU CALL IT "MOTHER AFRICA" ? HUMANS WERE AROUND BEFORE AFRICA WAS ITS OWN CONTINENT !!

  • @ditshegomosienyane1945
    @ditshegomosienyane1945 4 года назад +10

    Now I can understand why Hebraic names in Southern Africa are concentrated more around the Venda area; names such as the Damanes, the Chabanes, the Landaus, and others.

    • @romeoselatole4734
      @romeoselatole4734 3 года назад +6

      The whole of bantu is hebraic! Mentioning only venda and the lemba is just a tip of the iceberg... The difference is that the venda and lemba did not forget where they came from while the rest of us have been sleeping under deception for generations(some from external forces and some self-inflicted) There is a lot of deception throughout history. The great bantu migrations don't closely coincide with biblical Israelite diaspora by mistake.. The name in itself gives the history away, Ba-ntu came from Ba-yithu (those of The House), ntu is the root word of yithu.. The full name was Bayithuaela or Bayithuela meaning those of The House of God.
      Ba(those of) - Yithu(the House) - A(of) - Ela(God).. Ela/Elah is another ancient hebrew Name for God, which Islam today calls Allah.

    • @royday6827
      @royday6827 3 года назад +2

      @@romeoselatole4734 Thank you for this clarification, Elaha Illaya (Aramaica). [Dan. 3:26] "..ye servants of the Most High God, come forth, and come hither." [Dan. 5:18] "O thou king the Most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar." [Dan 5:21] " till he knew that the Most high God ruled in the kingdom of men.." Translated: "The most high God", Aramaic equivalent to the Hebrew El Elyon, Meaning GOD (IS) THE ONE. [Gen. 14:18] "..and he was the priest of the most high God." [Psm. 78:35] "And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer." See also [Gen. 14:19, 20, 22.]

    • @yehovahshammah.yehovah-is-6082
      @yehovahshammah.yehovah-is-6082 3 года назад

      .... and that shofar!

    • @romeoselatole4734
      @romeoselatole4734 3 года назад

      @@yehovahshammah.yehovah-is-6082 all bantu people historically had the shofar, it's called phalafala

    • @siyabongabhongoza939
      @siyabongabhongoza939 3 года назад +2

      @@romeoselatole4734 can you tell me more ,I'm born again so I'm interested !

  • @erpthompsonqueen9130
    @erpthompsonqueen9130 3 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 5 лет назад +1

    Very cool.

  • @alexandervanwyk7669
    @alexandervanwyk7669 3 года назад +4

    Great documentary. Thank for Prof Eloff and team from UP to capture this awesome information of a tiny bit of pre-colonial SA history. Fascinating to know that Sir Seretse Khama from the Bakalanga tribe stayed in Botswana, the direct ancestors of the Mapungupwe Kingdom. Some remnants still live in Venda: the Sekgosese_, Botlokwa_, Babirwa_ and Bakgalaka_/ Kalanga tribes. King Mzilikazi of Matebele tribe ended up in South Zimbabwe. Please someone do a doctorate on this and interview locals and people like Ian Khama from Botswana. Compliments to Diski Tube who provided the info.

    • @mmzunlondblond2658
      @mmzunlondblond2658 3 года назад

      Blasblabla, 4 mill of you, 23 mill of us, don't give me no talk, pack up or get buried

  • @chimaamara6742
    @chimaamara6742 7 лет назад +29

    At 5:44 the narrators comments indicate that Islam predates the birth of Christ. This is incorrect as any person who has studied history should know. Is there a reason for misleading the uneducated?

    • @TheSkyballs
      @TheSkyballs 7 лет назад +2

      because this is propaganda, just like no one actually ever reads the journals of lewis and clark in school because if they did it would raise questions about "white indians", the use of metals and how populated the areas actually were

    • @adriandavies8097
      @adriandavies8097 6 лет назад +3

      When did he say Islam predated Christ? He just said Asian and Arab traders traded in East Africa before Christ. That's true, just look at the Malagasy.

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi 6 лет назад +3

      He stated nothing about Islam. He stated only Arabs traded before Christ was born, which was true. Stop spewing out your own faulty information to support your own agenda.

    • @katiekat4457
      @katiekat4457 6 лет назад

      Maybe new things have been found since you were in school and you are out of date.

    • @katiekat4457
      @katiekat4457 6 лет назад

      Besides this is not in a history class. Nice try.

  • @OldieBugger
    @OldieBugger 7 лет назад +38

    Who are these people who thumb down history documents? I don't understand. Can someone explain?

    • @polferiferus1938
      @polferiferus1938 7 лет назад +26

      People who see no value in learning anything new? People who become offended when confronted with something that differs from what they think they already know? Oh! I know…they're all idiots!

    • @chimaamara6742
      @chimaamara6742 7 лет назад +1

      Yes, see my comment above.

    • @loszhor
      @loszhor 7 лет назад +3

      Because it makes me feel like a big man!

    • @zebooker
      @zebooker 7 лет назад +2

      Äijänkäppänä: All of them human. Mostly, those people are dead. None are you or me. I have different flaws. If you are human, so do you. I know a pastor, descended from enslaved Africans, who engages with and befriends members of one or another Ku Klux Klan, changing them; perhaps he has an idea they are human.

    • @borssuk88
      @borssuk88 7 лет назад +14

      People who value quality in research and integrity in narrative are idiots to you. What does that makes you? I made my mind up after hearing about islamic sailors before the Christs birth. It didn't get any better afterwards. Thumb down.

  • @2012photograph
    @2012photograph 3 года назад

    I m being enlighten in Africa history

  • @omaroba1490
    @omaroba1490 3 года назад +1

    finally some african history thats just about northern Africa.

  • @wandermumpande90
    @wandermumpande90 3 года назад +4

    Tonga/ Tsonga we were there, what a great life it was wish i lived in that generation with limited desires

    • @evesdawn7972
      @evesdawn7972 3 года назад

      Aowa guys It's Kalanga /Lozwi the only people in tsonga people it's Baloyi they are the only group linked to

    • @vunwe5803
      @vunwe5803 3 года назад

      @@evesdawn7972 read the history or research how Rivombo "Limpopo" name came from, you will understand the commenter above.

    • @evesdawn7972
      @evesdawn7972 3 года назад

      @@vunwe5803 I'm just saying tsonga people are not Kalanga

    • @vunwe5803
      @vunwe5803 3 года назад

      @@evesdawn7972 All Bantu people are one, Is just that we not wana accept the fact.

    • @evesdawn7972
      @evesdawn7972 3 года назад

      @@vunwe5803 we are but obviously tsonga can't be part of Zulu history we not talking about all Bantu history we talking about Zulu history, so it's the same

  • @akanibaone7082
    @akanibaone7082 3 года назад +10

    Why would they want us to learn our history when our Dept of education continues to teach outdated colonial white history and continues to imports Western, and European curriculums

  • @bethbartlett5692
    @bethbartlett5692 3 года назад +6

    The Government demonstrates how "1 lie" leads to so many.
    *"re-inter those remains"*

  • @Langfish25
    @Langfish25 3 года назад

    I like it.

  • @valenciawalker6498
    @valenciawalker6498 3 года назад

    very interesting.

  • @anything700
    @anything700 3 года назад +8

    According to the white man, there were NO black people in Africa. They just appeared after the european settlers found Africa sitting waiting to be discovered. Then they wrote the History of Africa. Never mind the caves with drawings on the mountains (Matatiel), Cango caves. And all over Africa with history of how the Africans who were never there lived.
    I've been there. I saw them myself.

    • @alanbaird6
      @alanbaird6 3 года назад +1

      I can understand your anger at the treatment of your culture, history is well taught in many countries. I have never heard or read that there were no black people in Africa. As an Irish person having some much wealth, resources, and monuments destroyed by the British colonizers, it is infuriating to realize, that so much culture has been lost due to greed and hate. I wonder if there are written records in the middle east and India due to the earlier trade routes and some hidden knowledge yet to be revealed.

    • @bruceledger8647
      @bruceledger8647 3 года назад +1

      That's not true. Scholars have well-documented evidence from the early Portuguese and Dutch sailors and explorers who wrote that they encountered only San and Hottentot (Khoi) people in the far South of the African continent in the mid-17th century. Arabs traded with their forefathers along the central African East coast, and the tribes were heading slowly into new lands further South.
      White scholars do not deny that black tribes populated all of central and western Africa. There is argument about when they reached South Africa on their slow migration from the North. Certainly Great Zimbabwe and Mapumgubwe were there before the whites set foot in Southern Africa. That is the far North of South Africa as it is known today.
      They met when the whites moved North, and the "border" was drawn at the Fish River on the Eastern coast, and extended to the Kei River. (To create a buffer zone in modern terminology.)
      The art in the Cango caves is many thousands of years old, and is certainly left to us by the San people. Who were systematically exterminated by blacks and whites alike.
      Don't complicate the matter by adding another layer of untruth on top of the pile.

    • @tokkieandrews9988
      @tokkieandrews9988 3 года назад

      Nobody said that there was no black people around ,when the white settlers started moving into the interior of South Africa they found South Africa to be almost void of human life just here and there marauding small parties of the black tribes that remained from tribal wars fought with the Zulu king Shaka and his brother Dingaan that murdered other tribes to almost extinction, there is even an area that the white settlers called "The valley of the bones"of fallen warriors ,but history has been twisted and changed .

    • @anything700
      @anything700 3 года назад

      @@tokkieandrews9988 in a debate from the 50s by students from Nigeria, South Africa, Ethiopia and some other countries this was said twice by South african participants as something they were taught in schools that the Dutch settlers did not find any Africans on arrival. This history younstate too is only from times dated by the settlers themselves. There is not definitive history by the indigenous people. However, if you travel to matatiel (I went to school there). The caves in the mountains bear a different history. The drawings similar to mayams and Egyptians depicting hunting and life. The cango caves (I visited in 2000) also show a history of life there years before the settlers. I.am not a history intellect but I did study it in my school days and I also am South African. I believe I can speak with some knowledge of the country. No disrespect. I also went to school in Bantu and later white institution. They teach differently either side.

    • @titaniaxoxo6170
      @titaniaxoxo6170 3 года назад

      @@tokkieandrews9988 The Zulu were not fighting other tribes, they were fighting each other

  • @b4realandreveal
    @b4realandreveal 5 лет назад +7

    WOW...HOW IS IT IMPOSSIBLE 4 AFRICANS 2 NOT HAVE DESIGNED THE PYRAMIDS N LIVE IN HUTS...HOW COULD U SAY THIS? IT'S THE SAME AS IF U'R SAYING THE EGYPT IS NOT AFRICA!!! WE ALL KNOW EVERYTHING BLKS HAVE OR CREATED IT'S WHT WASHED BY SUCH JEALOUSY N HATRED!!! GBU!!! :-)

  • @chuckybonty4191
    @chuckybonty4191 3 года назад +39

    How can you travel from your continent to another man's continent and claims everything there was discovered by you 🤔

    • @fernandoalmeida4772
      @fernandoalmeida4772 3 года назад

      not all born , raised and educated in Africa are black Africans.....

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад +1

      MOST OF IT WAS.

    • @mocha584
      @mocha584 3 года назад +1

      It’s disgusting

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT COUNTRY ONLY REALIZE SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT IS WHEN SOMEONE ELSE WANTS IT !!

    • @salamjihad3449
      @salamjihad3449 3 года назад

      WHY NOT? IF SOME EUROPEAN DISCOVERED IT BEFORE AN AFRICAN DID THEN WHY NOT?

  • @Josh-Hendricks1
    @Josh-Hendricks1 4 года назад

    This video is interesting

  • @IceManLikeGervin
    @IceManLikeGervin 7 лет назад +2

    Very interesting...upload.

    • @csaw5173
      @csaw5173 6 лет назад

      if it was actually facts they used to make this. Yes

  • @traeandrepowell9348
    @traeandrepowell9348 7 лет назад +4

    Amazing!!!!

    • @csaw5173
      @csaw5173 6 лет назад

      yes i know! How amazing is it that this BS is called factual hey?

    • @greathornedowl1783
      @greathornedowl1783 6 лет назад +1

      @@csaw5173
      Another "high iq white man" who won't accept science and archaeology. Who would have thought?

    • @csaw5173
      @csaw5173 6 лет назад

      @@greathornedowl1783 Oh and thanks for the compliment on my IQ👏

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 7 лет назад +10

    Interesting. Perhaps mostly anthropologically: the image of the 'king', in a European Safari jacket, flanked by suited henchmen, and surrounded by a chain of naked women whilst others crouch in homage at his feet is highly illustrative of the type of civilisation that has been lost.

    • @jamestcatcato7132
      @jamestcatcato7132 5 лет назад +5

      Sounds a lot like Louis 15 court, but that didn't happen till 200 years later, guess you guys needed time to catch up.

    • @ahata7245
      @ahata7245 5 лет назад +2

      @@jamestcatcato7132 😂😂😂

  • @LisaSmyth68
    @LisaSmyth68 5 лет назад +5

    Digging deeper, Probably more cities :)

  • @thandekaletlalo8192
    @thandekaletlalo8192 3 года назад +1

    Mapungubjwe or Mapungubwe le bjwe la Maphuku, Maphuku ke nonyana yeo e jago phoofolo tseo di hwilego ka o gonya mahlo, ditsebe, leleme le ka morago, o se lebale gore maphukubjwe ke shoka la boana phoofolo tsohle tsa naga, nonyana yeo e rata go dula mabjweng bjalo ka lenong e bile e ja nama bjalo ka lenong. Thobela amen.

  • @renaegholston4787
    @renaegholston4787 3 года назад

    Than-K U 💜 Some BoDy