'Genuinely shocking': Pro-Trump justices give presidential immunity case bad faith treatment
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- An MSNBC prime time panel share overall assessments of the arguments presented to the Supreme Court today on the question of whether "presidential immunity" protects Donald Trump from being prosecuted for his role in the January 6 insurrection, and the brazen manner in which some of the partisan justices showed their willingness to manipulate the case to Donald Trump's benefit.
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Corruption in the highest court in the land.
We are in trouble.
Agree!
Scotus =self preservation first, protecting their preferred prez second, Country dead last!!
I think the not-so-supreme court is doing several things...
1. They are twisting themselves into knots to assist trump and STALL.
2. They are causing a delay such that some of trump's trials cannot/will not occur before the 2024 election.
3. By not handing down a decision before the prez election, they are rolling the dice to see which candidate wins.
4. If Biden wins, they will rule against immunity because they don't want anyone that is not trump to have immunity. They will TRY to pass this off as being non-partisan in an effort to regain some of the credibility they have lost (don't be fooled! It would be just a BS show, until the next R is elected).
5. If trump wins, only then will they grant prez immunity to forever protect their favored prez.
This tactic is a win-win for the scotus first and foremost, because unfortunately, that is ALL they care about first. Promoting/protecting/saving an R pres is secondary.
That's what I would do if I was a corrupt, immoral, unethical, biased, agenda-based, all-powerful body with seemingly unchecked power and lifetime appointments.
Reprehensible!
LOGIC needs to be present. But it cannot be forgotten ....HUMPTY TRUMPTY is a PUBLICLY AND INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN ...CON ARTIST FRAUDSTER. HE WILL have behind the scenes, many similar-minded con artists in the form of lawyers, being very well paid, to "influence" strategic justices with whatever it takes ...deals, properties, cash, or whatever it takes, to come up with some cock-a-mammie "explanation" or "reasoning" to support any kind of level of "immunity".
Remember, TRUMPY's many trials are on the basis he has BROKEN THE LAW. THIS is his MODUS OPERANDI....and it will NEVER change.......and did I mention he is also a habitual LIAR? Remember, he recently stated that the judge would not let him attend Barron's graduation? The judge said no such thing.
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Well yeah but how would you get a fully entrenched Manchurian candidate of the Democrats out of there to where he can be tried in front of the American people for the OJ in Mount of evidence against this Asian of the eve of the Chinese or anyone with a dollar so it's going to take us a while have some patience and we'll get those Democrats behind bars where they belong I don't fret even these guys up above here and know what to say that they didn't stop cool against the president of the United States and it interfered with the validation process of the election by letting the guard down at the Capitol and now they're doing the same thing at the border so don't worry Mexican mega is here now and we will have Justice in this country by the real rule of law.
..mate, we all are. Massive concern worldwide 🇬🇧
We were in trouble the minute Trump was elected, as the establishment showed us how evil and corrupt they actually are. That’s changing. Trump 2024!!!
We have reached the legal phase of fascism.
better use your 2nd amendment before you lose it.
When a company starts, it's run by the techies. Then it's run by the businessmen. Then its run by the lawyers. And then it's in Chapter 11.
@@user-uw1cn9dt6ybot
@@user-uw1cn9dt6y The CIA needs to take care of Traitor tRump.
Agreed fascism is here
Injustices Thomas and Alito are nothing short of disgusting. They both need to be removed and sent out to pasture. Don’t let them go quietly either. People need to speak up and let them know we see through their corruption
Loved, Injustices! Can I borrow that?
@@karlb8069 Keep it growing because that is exactly what they are
DEMOCRAT Junta actions
One of junta leader Biden's first official acts was the firing the nation's African American Surgeon General. He then issued racist and xenophobic travel ban orders against people from South Africa. The announcement of Biden's appointment of white supremacist Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development was met with "peaceful protests" by DEMOCRAT Black Lives Matter.
Biden told his junta organizing committee,
“ This country is doomed! It is doomed not just because of African Americans, but because by 2040 this country is going to be minority white European! Hear me! Minority white European! ”
At a Milwaukee townhall meeting in February 2021 Biden claimed Blacks and Hispanics were too stupid to understand how to use the internet
WHY CAN'T THESE JUSTICES BE INPEACHED... THIS IS B.S.
They can be but you first need grounds to do so.
Trump 2024
@@billybarnes1763 There are plenty sufficient grounds to impeach Clarence Thomas. The Constitution says federal judges and justices shall hold their offices "during good behavior." It does not specify high crimes and misdemeanors for them. Clarence Thomas was corrupted and compromised long before January 6, 2021. Jennie Thomas did not act in concert with the 2021 insurrection independently of her "friend" on the U.S. Supreme Court. His failure to recuse himself from all things trump, the 2020 election and the insurrection are very, very troubling.
It is absolutely mind boggling that we have people like this on the Supreme Court’s!
Clarence Thomas is the man of the year!!! I love him and God bless him. You’re full of hate and liberals and Dems need to get a life. Your logics have failed your kids and America is being ruined. Wake up America vote trump❤
That these corrupt elderly men's names are preceded by the title 'Justice' is a cynical humiliation of the American people.
100% + Agree with you.
..and that Thomas didn't recuse himself shows their corruption knows no end.
Yeah, but if they voted the way you wanted, they would’ve been awesome right. Some of y’all are disgusting.
Plus, these justices are too stupid to understand that, they too, could be considered political rivals of the president, if they don't rule in his/her favor.
@@spiceyhotpot Thomas is, was and always will be an abject disgrace to the Supreme Court. His appointment NEVER should have occurred. The fact that he is only the second black male after Thurgood Marshall, who embodied what a justice should be like, makes it even more insulting.
This is deeply, deeply disturbing. This country is in great peril. Unbelievable.
Yes, because Comrade Bidenov is president.
@@JohnWarner-lu8rq Really? Biden's not Putin's comrade, tRump is! Against stupidity even the gods struggle in vain. I'd love to know your education level?😉
It's in great peril if Biden is reelected
We can't let Trump win this election, or he will use this power the Supreme Court is about to give him to stay in office indefinitely. He's a deranged, lying criminal who wants to be an authoritarian dictator like Putin.
It has been in the works for decades. It's very believable!
Out of the nine SCJ’s, six of them should be released from their duties.🤦♂️
They can be impeached!
I know right... Just because they wont rule the way that we want.
Permanently.
@@billybarnes1763 No, billy, it's because they're pushing the false notion that an individual can be completely and wholly above the law. As judges, they're demonstrating that they are politically motivated rather than motivated by justice and the application of the law. That makes them unequivocally unfit for office.
@@Richard-sy1ej Well, it took 4 of them to decide to take this case. I don't think Amy is MAGA, and if she is, I don't think that she's so blithely eager to ignore her duty as the men are, and I would be surprised if she voted to take this case, which simply delays Trump's major trial so that if he wins the election, he will order it dropped. Who are the 4 or more? Thomas and Alito are definite. Gorsuch, probable. Kavanaugh a bit less probable. Roberts even a bit less probable. But whoever on SCOTUS voted to take this case should be impeached. I'm not so happy with the Lib women either, who are chickenshit to make controversial rulings (like the CO insurrection disqualification case), while the Cons have no such timidity.
Agree with Chris Hayes. Even we citizens can see the obvious that No person is above the law. For the Supreme Court to even discuss this in the way they have without stating simply, No President has immunity for crimes committed.
Wow...Chris Hayes, a source of inspiration. JOKE OF THE DAY FROM A MARXIST CLOWN
puting america first,not starting wars,not suporting genoside are crimes now?
Exactly.
As a European, I am used to government officials resigning over things like a small lie in their curriculum, or an extramarital affair or something. This immunity thing is absolutely out of this world. Where is America going??
We used to be too! We started down a slippery slope went Ford pardoned Nixon
Down the tubes.
If you really want to help you could marry me so I’m able to leave the USA
@@sleepwelldreamoften7861 I will marry you!
America is waking up. Some people are resisting the call and are entrenching themselves.
I think the supreme court made any excellant argument for their jobs to be term limited. Its obvious they should not be life time appointments.
I think it rather might be better for us if there was a better mechanism to remove them if corrupt; Thomas comes to mind first. No one should be unimpeaachable and Alito's speculations seem colored garish partiality.
Maybe they should be put on the ballot every presidential election to see whether they keep their job.
Yes!
I think the not-so-supreme court is doing several things...
1. They are twisting themselves into knots to assist trump and STALL.
2. They are causing a delay such that some of trump's trials cannot/will not occur before the 2024 election.
3. By not handing down a decision before the prez election, they are rolling the dice to see which candidate wins.
4. If Biden wins, they will rule against immunity because they don't want anyone that is not trump to have immunity. They will TRY to pass this off as being non-partisan in an effort to regain some of the credibility they have lost (don't be fooled! It would be just a BS show, until the next R is elected).
5. If trump wins, only then will they grant prez immunity to forever protect their favored prez.
This tactic is a win-win for the scotus first and foremost, because unfortunately, that is ALL they care about first. Promoting/protecting/saving an R pres is secondary.
That's what I would do if I was a corrupt, immoral, unethical, biased, agenda-based, all-powerful body with seemingly unchecked power and lifetime appointments.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@MarcBoutin-um8sn FMRI is going to be not as clunky/not require a supermagnet inside a shielded room. Better sensors will yield room temperature cellphone usage of FMRI and people will know who is lying and who is not. It is still an emerging technology; 99.999% accurate and currently both court admissible and Way more dependable than polygraph which is only 52% accurate (like a coin toss: crappy)
I listened to most of the SCOTUS arguments and there were several times when I literally wanted to throw up like the vertigo mentioned. I've listened to other Alito speeches and he comes across as so insanely arrogant. When he said he didn't want to talk details it was obvious what he was trying to do. He wanted to make everything abstract (and appear so superior and smarter than everyone else). He was so transparent and did it so often that in my opinion he made a total fool of himself. When it ended I was pretty upset and kept turning over the question in my head, "How did these judges become so corrupt?" How did they loose the basic concept of right and wrong? How could they justifiy all their actions that have delayed and delayed the trials? How could they support such a corrupt individuyal as Trump? What are the points of stupid what-ifs when so much is at stake? If they grant blanket immunity to presidents I think it would be time to start a national debate to remove them all and start over.
Alito and Thomas are both arrogant beyond belief and their comments were so nakedly pro-Trump I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
Nowhere in the Constitution is there any mention of the concept of presidential immunity and their arguging that, because trump is facing criminal trials, they need to make up some method to help him avoid these consequences. the false equivalencies they deploy are equally flawed.
They didn't "become corrupt" before becoming SCOTUS.. MAGA new those MAGA appointed SCOTUS were already corrupt when appointing them, and knew they could buy them as protection. These SCOTUS CAN & SHOULD BE IMPEACHED.. WHY ARE THEY NOT BEING IMPEACHED??
Appointed by trump .
Moscow Mitch picked them.
Where's the President on this? Their corrupt and they need to be removed. Of course a big bonus is lingering in the air.
We the people need to get our congress to pass term limits for the justices. We have seen first hand what corrupted justices at the very highest courts look like. They can not continue to look over what the rules of law say to find things that fit their political views.
So other judges can be corrupted too. So everything Trump is saying is correct, this is a witch hunt.
There should be ten limits for all political offices
Unfortunately I live in a red state and they love Trump. They are disgusting 🤮.
AMEN..
Commentators must start saying your supreme court justices are corrupt, raise the profile of this issue by starting to call them out!
Exactly, stop treating this like it is a legitimate consideration. And call it out for what it is, blatant corruption.
Yes!
I think the not-so-supreme court is doing several things...
1. They are twisting themselves into knots to assist trump and STALL.
2. They are causing a delay such that some of trump's trials cannot/will not occur before the 2024 election.
3. By not handing down a decision before the prez election, they are rolling the dice to see which candidate wins.
4. If Biden wins, they will rule against immunity because they don't want anyone that is not trump to have immunity. They will TRY to pass this off as being non-partisan in an effort to regain some of the credibility they have lost (don't be fooled! It would be just a BS show, until the next R is elected).
5. If trump wins, only then will they grant prez immunity to forever protect their favored prez.
This tactic is a win-win for the scotus first and foremost, because unfortunately, that is ALL they care about first. Promoting/protecting/saving an R pres is secondary.
That's what I would do if I was a corrupt, immoral, unethical, biased, agenda-based, all-powerful body with seemingly unchecked power and lifetime appointments.
Their interest is self preservation first, protecting/promoting their preferred candidate second!
... of late the supreme court justices are in the spotlight.. they have been caught out and they don't like the scrutiny or want to be accountable.. only in Trump's America can they get away with it... in fact in Trump's America they will be generously rewarded for their "underhandedness"... it's so obvious 😂
Write editorials. Call your congressional representative. Speak! Yell!! Wave your hands and wear placards when you go for a walk or a run. We the people!!! Consider getting into public office. VOTE 🗳 ☑️
Unbelievable. We are in trouble like never before. I’m terrified for the future of this country and for my family.
You should be. Look at the current state of our country. If old sleepy is re-elected, it only gets worse!
@@coppersworld2054 You talking about sleepy Trump?
@@coppersworld2054You're talking about the guy who couldn't stay awake in court, right?
@@jamesrowden303 I think the "our country" he refers to is in eastern Europe.
Me too. 😢 we’ve ALL got to vote 🗳️💙💙💙
"UNCLE" Clarence, I have NEVER seen a BLACK MAN HATE BEING A BLACK MAN!! I have NEVER seen somebody fight to do away with AFFIRMATIVE ACTION when it was AFFIRMATIVE ACTION that got him an EDUCATION and a JOB!!!
They should have listened to Anita Hill!!!
You've never seen black people that hate being black? Candace Owens? Stacey Dash? While not extremely common, I'd say there are still quite a few.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dixiecrats are living up to y'all's name
Affirmative action was and is a joke, like CRT and DEI. SHOULD BE ABOUT MERIT AND EXCELLENCE
So much that he married a white woman
Most state supreme courts are composed of seniors over the age of 78. 💀 We need age and term limits. These seniors don’t represent anyone.
With age comes wisdom, they are there for a reason. Deal with it dummy
No
Neither do you children
Someone has to keep the dumm kids in their place
Why isn't Supreme Court Judge Ginni Thomas showing up herself instead of sending her surrogate husband ?
Republicans dont believe in accountability.
@Kayweg OUCH! You nailed it in the most wicked way possible! I love it, good on you!
Exactly. The Supreme Court of the United States is an absolute joke. Forget absolute immunity, the SCOTUS is absolutely corrupt. We need to be laser focused on extreme reform of the SCOTUS with very short terms and complete accountability. They have shown what happens when there is an institution that has power without accountability. Clarence needs to be behind bars along with his deviant wife.
WOW...that is so RACIST! Always trying to eliminate the black man aren't you
@Kayweg - Hehehehehehe. You're not supposed to notice that...
What happened to “NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW ?????? This is THE SUPREME COURT?????
Supreme corruption
Lol
Biden should be in prison for his crimes and Pelosi should be in prison for her insider trading
Whut happened to Justice is Blind? I notice they see who is the protagonist...
So the supreme court is acting as the authoritarian
Time for a Constitutional Amendment for changing the lifetime appointment to a term limit.
"minimizers of sedition..." Yeah, that's what hurts me too. Thanks for the words, Ari.
Embarrassingly transparent. No integrity in SCOTUS...
It's the Christian Taliban Supreme Court. A 50+ year plot by Christian Dominionism/NAR/Nationalism called "Seven Mountains Mandate" to end democracy.
what a fool
and the Biden Administration has integrity?!
EXCEPT for 3 Liberal WOMEN (Even Barrett was prety good) ALL the men SOLD OUT TO TRUMP & AUTHORITARIANISM
@@michaelnordman4334yes Trump is
If the Supreme Court needs so much time to make a decision, than Biden should expand the SC and add some 5 justices to reduce their workload.
That part!
Absolutely expand the Court.
But easier if we elect President Biden take both House and Senate and impeach them for lying under oath to Congress put term limits and ethics and no free trips.
Biden has said he could not not stack the court because the house has to allow it.
@@WandaJacksonTN Simple let's help him vote republicklan out and win both House and Senate reelect President Biden impeach judges who lied under oath to Congress and of course the token thomas.
I no longer have any respect for 5 of the SC justices!
😂
Corruption is Rampant in America!
If no one is above the law in the USA, explain Scotus what laws apply to them ? Bribery seems to be ok. They are supposed to uphold the rule of law, not write it.
They are criminals like King Trump this whole nation just lost all its credibility are justice department is corrupt.
Which Supreme Court of the United States do you think has been bribed?
The President must have immunity for acts taken while in office and the reasons are obvious and numerous - Bragg, Smith, Willis, and James (all Democrats) are making this point for us now aren't they?
@@herballycorrect legit official acts not just anything the pres wants to do....plonka
Yes Bidens also Pelsoi who's is worth over 100 million on her 150k salary lol
So disgraceful SCOTUS
Don't these events show it is time to rethink how justices are appointed. In many democracies the Executive does not appoint any judges, particularly the highest court in the land.
Seeing Clarence Thomas in the middle of this issue makes everything suspicious. What is he getting in return this time? Is it another free vacation, sale of another house or another benefit we don't know of.
God bless America. Please save us from the unfit.
It’s called corruption
Its called justice with a wink and nod.
Yes, six of those so-called Justices are bought and paid for by the Federalist Society! So, the MAGA's own the so-called "High Court"! To call this a Kangaroo Court would be an insult to and disservice to all Kangaroos!!!
The Supreme Court is playing a remarkably dangerous game. They have no idea what they're arguing should be unleashed on the country. None of them have every lived under it.
It's also called Republican.
yeah another name for "DEMOCRATS"
Boy, I hope every justice of SCOTUS is watching this. They have lost ALL credibility.
Sadly they dont care.
They never had any to begin with.
Oh yeah, because MSNBC said so 😂😂😂😂 so the one sided news media is upset that they aren’t getting what they want? So much for fairness lol no ones gives two shats about MSNBC, they will only post things that make Trump seem bad. They don’t post the truth. They don’t share or debate anything. You have to be as far left leaning as possible to be on there. So why would the Supreme Court judges whose job it is to be fair and unbiased be upset that the super far leaning media is upset with them. If it was the other way around and Fox was upset with them should they care? You people care about what you want. Not what the person actually deserves. Morons
They don't care, it's self preservation and power!
I think the not-so-supreme court is doing several things...
1. They are twisting themselves into knots to assist trump and STALL.
2. They are causing a delay such that some of trump's trials cannot/will not occur before the 2024 election.
3. By not handing down a decision before the prez election, they are rolling the dice to see which candidate wins.
4. If Biden wins, they will rule against immunity because they don't want anyone that is not trump to have immunity. They will TRY to pass this off as being non-partisan in an effort to regain some of the credibility they have lost (don't be fooled! It would be just a BS show, until the next R is elected).
5. If trump wins, only then will they grant prez immunity to forever protect their favored prez.
This tactic is a win-win for the scotus first and foremost, because unfortunately, that is ALL they care about first. Promoting/protecting/saving an R pres is secondary.
That's what I would do if I was a corrupt, immoral, unethical, biased, agenda-based, all-powerful body with seemingly unchecked power and lifetime appointments.
Any Red Hat scotus is a very bad joke...
I am amazed by the amount of hand wringing over the Supreme Court and the silence on the abuse of power by bureaucrats.
You need to leave, justices… you are not doing your job!!! You need to leave! Most of you…. Especially Thomas & every sec offender on the court!
America, ,what are you doing? Just what are you doing? The rest of us would be laughing if it wasn't so deeply concerning.
Agree! It is horrible!
Scotus =self preservation first, protecting their preferred prez second, Country dead last. 😡 😢
I think the not-so-supreme court is doing several things...
1. They are twisting themselves into knots to assist trump and STALL.
2. They are causing a delay such that some of trump's trials cannot/will not occur before the 2024 election.
3. By not handing down a decision before the prez election, they are rolling the dice to see which candidate wins.
4. If Biden wins, they will rule against immunity because they don't want anyone that is not trump to have immunity. They will TRY to pass this off as being non-partisan in an effort to regain some of the credibility they have lost (don't be fooled! It would be just a BS show, until the next R is elected).
5. If trump wins, only then will they grant prez immunity to forever protect their favored prez.
This tactic is a win-win for the scotus first and foremost, because unfortunately, that is ALL they care about first. Promoting/protecting/saving an R pres is secondary.
That's what I would do if I was a corrupt, immoral, unethical, biased, agenda-based, all-powerful body with seemingly unchecked power and lifetime appointments.
Its not me.. its these crazies.. all stemming from Trump.. If we get past this, we should be a lot stronger.. because clearly there are too many loop holes and we relied on Morality and good faith.. apparently the Fascists saw a way to exploit that. Putin is loving it.. we are under attack from all sides..
Unfortunately, the far right have cheated their way just enough to tip their minority into power and it is extremely hard to remove them. They've done it long enough now to get all the right levers in order to start moving their minority views into power.
Believe me many of us Americans are horrified at what is happening
Will probably leave the US if he is given immunity or elected president. It’s truly insane what’s happening in this country. Corrupt Supreme Court
It should be genuinely shocking that Clarence Thomas has not recused himself. But its Clarence Thomas so nothing is shocking about such behaviour when its from him.
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Racist
@@dominickmilano4858look how far our institutions have fallen. You believe a judge who has conflicts should still be involved in the case. What has happened to this country😢😢😢
@@jimyocum9556 Racist? If I was a racist I'd be a Trump supporter.
Thick face
How do these corrupt people live with themselves? What is it like to think doing these things are okay? It's so bizarre...
MAGA 2024!
Because we, the citizens of the United States, mean nothing to them-just like our democracy means nothing to them!
Their Terms Have To Be Limited!
Through this issue, we learned that Supreme Court justices can be authoritarians. As individuals, we need to find ways to demand that those in the most important positions in our government be given limited terms, rather than permanent careers once they win the chair.
Justices should be elected by “We the People” and not appointed by any President
You can't even get the president right, what makes you think you should have that power? 😂
What people?
Citizens or illegals 😂
We the people elected the mango mobster as president! 😅
Term limits would be enough.
@@Geezerelli Troll
Call for what it is. Corruption.
Your disagreement doesn't make it corrupt 😂
@@Jetty-hs6kx
The fact that it's corrupt means it's corrupt. I don't understand people who think it's funny that the Institutions that have been put in place to protect American democracy are spitting in the face of both democracy and the American people. There can be only two explanations, brute stupidity or brute evilness. Or number three, brute stupidity combined with brute evilness. Trump is going to end up behind bars when he could have unjustly walked away and he is going to end up there because he and his deviant buddies have so traumatized the majority of Americans, they are going to settle for nothing less.
And partisan hackery
@@Jetty-hs6kx
The fact that it's corrupt makes it corrupt. Use your brain a little bit and open your eyes. The man is a joke and a dangerous one.
@@Jetty-hs6kx
The fact that it is corruption does make it corrupt.
Lifetime appointments should be removed. There needs to be checks and balances for all, including the Supreme Court!!!
I agree!!! Like why is she even invited? I didn't invite her to the after party that was a little late, but I did invite her to the wedding party. Either way, Barbara wasn't having any of it.
I hope these pro Trump justices will face justice one day.
These are sensible justices
These conservative judges belong in jail
Yep! Anyone that still believes in the United States of America's Constitution and The Bill of Rights belongs in jail!
The President must have immunity for acts taken while in office and the reasons are obvious and numerous - Bragg, Smith, Willis, and James (all Democrats) are making this point for us now aren't they?
I think the problem is that Democrats think everybody they disagree with should be thrown into jail
@@origanami🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🧠🧠🧠🧠dead
@@origanamiYour lack of self awareness is only eclipsed by your obvious selective RepubliKKKan hypocrisy....‼️👍👍😎😎🇺🇲🇺🇲
This country built the atomic bomb, out produced Germany and Japan in WWII, and out fought them in a two frount war, and landed a man on the moon. When did we become so stupid?
When we let women into the workforce
When idiots & the Political system elected Trump in 2016...
We never went to the moon so there's that
@@apothic0n I was thinking the same thing.
When feminism destoryed the nuclear family
No one is above the law. Presidential Immunity is not in the Constitution. SCOTUS should have immediately rejected this case
The Supreme Court moved lightning fast when they needed to make sure Dubya won in 2000. Now in order to protect Trump they choose to move at a snails pace.
The fact that corrupt Clarence is sitzing on this bench while his own wife is highly conflicted in the very crime is a bad joke.
Do you mean like Merchan is conflicted in the Trump case ?
@@davidwelsh8026 Nice try, troll!
Thomas's wife ginni was involved heavily in the J6 planning as well as other crimes but Thomas is beyond arrogant, always has been and he will thus not recuse. Oh and he's also corrupt af.
Justice Thomas is upholding our Constitution, something you democrats know NOTHING about. Just because he doesn't go along with your hate Trump agenda means he's corrupt? You know who is corrupt? All these criminals posing as DAs making up charges because they're so desperate to get Trump out of the way because crooked Joe is a LOSER are the corrupt ones. Literally making up charges!!!. The democrats throwing our Constitution out the window and trying to change the rules to suit you all is DISGRACEFUL. Stand up for America for once!!!
That is crazy she was caught being involved in the attempt to steal election. Hope after election MAGA is gone and dems hold all offices Congress. They can vote that it’s necessary for justices to have hearings regarding the unethical behavior. Especially Thomas
I am not suprised at all,go back and look at the their judgements lately,it is horrifying,it seems like we are going backwards instead forward.
Nazism goes backward. That is what it does. This is Nazism and there is nothing anyone can do but stand back in horror and watch as it destroys everything around it until it destroys itself.
Lol....Sucks Tobe a progressive snowflake, doesn't it...
Not just backwards... But it's like basic common sense has been flipped over on its head... and NOW WE ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO KEEP OUR MOUTHS SHUT AND GO ALONG WITH IT!?! It's ONLY BEEN MADE POSSIBLE BECAUSE MAIN STREAM MEDIA GETS ON CAMERA SHOVING LIES DOWN PEOPLES THROATS! They have sooo many still brainwashed to believe in what they say... AS IF ITS TRUE!!! It's completely opposite and had I not turned my TV OFF AND RESEARCHED ON MY OWN, I would still be regurgitating their lies!! It's disgusting and THEY ALL NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE! Once you learn ALL THE MEDIA IS OWNED BY DEMOCRATS... THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO MAKE ANYONE QUESTION WTH IS GOING ON WITH THESE LYING REPORTERS!!
Your country needs Mr. Biden more than ever!
Here is something worthwhile for the people to protest about!
ya got no facts - - - In 2022 the Democrat congress voted to give $116 billion to the neo-fascist Kyiv regime.
I hope I live long enough to see that supreme Court justices will have term limits!!
You will because it's happening right after the Roevember Election. Democracy Will Prevail, You Watch!🇺🇸
What the only piece of government the democrats don’t own.
AND BE REMOVED WHEN THERE IS GOOD REASON TO LIKE NOW
@@debiallen4053 and you think maga is a cult. Msndc is its own cult. - independent.
Nicole Wallace nailed it .. they, the conservative judges, feel persecuted. This is UNBELIEVABLE..!!
I think the not-so-supreme court is doing several things...
1. They are twisting themselves into knots to assist trump and STALL.
2. They are causing a delay such that some of trump's trials cannot/will not occur before the 2024 election.
3. By not handing down a decision before the prez election, they are rolling the dice to see which candidate wins.
4. If Biden wins, they will rule against immunity because they don't want anyone that is not trump to have immunity. They will TRY to pass this off as being non-partisan in an effort to regain some of the credibility they have lost (don't be fooled! It would be just a BS show, until the next R is elected).
5. If trump wins, only then will they grant prez immunity to forever protect their favored prez.
This tactic is a win-win for the scotus first and foremost, because unfortunately, that is ALL they care about first. Promoting/protecting/saving an R pres is secondary.
That's what I would do if I was a corrupt, immoral, unethical, biased, agenda-based, all-powerful body with seemingly unchecked power and lifetime appointments.
Self preservation first, protecting their preferred prez second, Country dead last.
Self preservation first, protecting their preferred prez second, Country dead last.
THE SINISTER6 BETTER GET USED TO CRITICISM BECAUSE THEY ARE IN FOR IT!!!
Yep, believe everything that you agree with and call BS on everything you don’t agree with. But whatever you do, ever agree with reality.
They r the ones who are soft on crime and criminals..... AKA Donald John Trump, the trader of r country
If at least 8 justices have ruled out absolute immunity, then let's MOVE ON. There's no reason to continue talking through hypotheticals.
This court is practiced at ignoring legal precedent.
Absolutely disgusted that SCOTUS is even hearing this matter.
Absolutely!
thank you for your comment because it means you have a good soul and conscience. I decided to subscribe to your channel!
You really think they are going to stop Trump from becoming president?
you are welcome, unknown person who liked my comment.
I agree ! Time to get rid of the courts and the constitution ! We need the democratic party to nominate a dictaot to rule us the he'll with the whole democracy stuff!
There needs to be term limits for SCOTUS. Alito and Thomas should have been gone by now!
Need Democratic majority in all 3 branches, then you have to get dems to vote principle over greed and that will never happen
There should be a way to get rid of corrupt supreme court judges!
What do they have on these judges that they can be bought like this? Meanwhile, DJT complains about biased judges. What a joke!!!!
This "Supreme " court is a freaking joke! And it's not funny!
Only if they agree with your way of think thrn they wouod be legit right?
@@trevornoel9 it's a matter of having a court free of corruption..as it's SUPPOSED to be..and anyone that can't see the corruption going on in the Supreme Court needs their eyes n maybe a couple of other things checked..
@ladytee3814 i can say the same thing about the justice system that is going after Trump but i know you dont see it that way. There are many people dont like trump that can see this....what should i say about that?
@trevornoel9 he's committed crimes..and there's PROOF of such..that's the thing I see alot of people don't understand is you can cry all you want that Biden is doing whatever, but there's no PROOF of any of the claims..
Just like their mob boss who put them in those positions ! ALL corrupt
This court is just sickening
No ,you sinners are trying to crucify another sinnner.
We know their intentions
@@prettygirl53987keep your Superstition out of our lives
The President must have immunity for acts taken while in office and the reasons are obvious and numerous - Bragg, Smith, Willis, and James (all Democrats) are making this point for us now aren't they?
@@herballycorrectNobody has immunity to break the law. That's what Trump did, before he was president, after he lost the election. He can't get away with staging an attack against our nation's capital. 🙄 He can't get away with election interference. That's not democracy. That's not abiding by the laws of the constitution. That's political bias. We have checks and balances in America. We have a democracy , not a dictatorship.
“Genuinely shocking”. Agreed!
Seems to me that "THE" question is: did he do it as a "private citizen", or as an official act of the President of the USA?
If he was not acting in the official capacity of President, THERE IS NO IMMUNITY!
This SCOTUS can be removed if they act in bad faith. This seems to be just that.
By who? Have never ever seen that happen in my 58 years of life.
You mean if they rule against YOUR ideas of the laws and YOUR intepretation the United States Constitution?
We will not be holding our breath here, waiting for a majority of our House of Representatives to vote to impeach them. Those crackpots can't even hold on to a speaker longer than a few minutes, and they are really the problem
To date, only one Supreme Court Justice, Samuel Chase, has been impeached, and he was acquitted by the Senate in 1805. A second Supreme Court Justice, Abe Fortas, was forced to resign under threat of impeachment in 1969. With today’s political situation, the Republican held House is unlikely to impeach and there is no way there are the votes in the Senate to convict.
These justices just showed you that there's no justce.
Supreme Court needs to be choose to by unbiased. This court do not have the authority to decide in this case.
Ari said it the best, “seeing multiple justices out themselves as insurrection and sedition minimizers”.
Best 1-line summary, IMHO
So then.... You eat all the MSNBC programming. Smh...
Reality - There was NO insurrection otherwise he'd have been indicted on that charge instead of trying to convict and punish him without a trial
@@stephenm8898 , Ummmm, (🤔🤭🤭🤭!!!) The true reality, that’s where you are wrong sweetheart!! There was an insurrection and yes Donnie Trumpy was behind it all. Should he have immunity and run for a second term as President? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Does he deserve to be in prison? ABSOLUTELY!!
After Dobbs decision we realized the scotus right wing were liars. Now we know beyond any shadow of doubt, that they are totally corrupt. How will we deal with them?
Can you please start SHOUTING the Supreme Court word CORRUPTION CORRUPTION CORRUPTION
The SCOTUS should have given a unanimous decision denying any immunity to any POTUS past, present or future.
Soo, they did not find time for that 3 minutes discussion and decision ?
Must be a hard job.
Im sure this is NOT what our forefathers had in mind.
It's not what the constitution says...it says that impeachment is the tool for Presidential wrong doing
I'm crying inside.
They also didn't have a direct democracy in mind.... And yet that's what we keep being told America is.
There's a process to deal with Presidential high crimes, and that is impeachment.
If presidents can be endlessly indicted after leaving office for actions while in office, then presidents can be threatened and black mailed, and THAT it's a far worse situation.
This country would be greatly compromised, and very quickly.
Listen to the oral arguments of this case, and you'll understand better.
The corruption that is inherently built into an economic system built on greed is finally putting the final nails in the coffin of capitalism.
For this alone, they should be immediately relieved of their duties and investigated.
They claim to be textualists and originalists and yet there is no mention of even the concept of presidential immunity.
In fact, the founders were against an unaccountable president, i.e. a monarch.
ha ha ha deal with it lol
@@markbauch2600 sounds exactly right. We definitely need to deal with it to see how we can get these loyalists impeached because they're clearly not interested in following the law.
@@markbauch2600”haha the government now has all the power and can crush us all like ants, but take that libruls!” - that is you.
@@markbauch2600 Well played Mr Putin.
We all will be judged. That is the only thing that gives me some peace. Trumps supreme court out of control.
The current SCOTUS is shameless!
Our Supreme Court has lost all credibility.
100%
We have three (3) legal folks who know their craft and are not easily fooled. 😄😵💫😔😄⚖️
It's no longer the people's it's been bought by trump
Thank God for THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES 🙏🙏💕
The framers fought against this… every single foundational document speaks on how problematic giving one person absolute immunity and power (THE LITERAL MONARCHY) is. This is exactly why we broke from England. And here SCOTUS is after 200 years even LISTENING TO THIS CASE?? Absolutely ridiculous
Just make Trump the king.
The person the framers were warning us about is Biden - it's the perfect example they spoke of, of tyrannical forces taking hold of government and trying to use their power to destroy their political opponents.
And you are so right everyone who fought for this country to have a democracy don't it for nothing and that is so sad
@@davidwelsh8026you’re cult doesn’t want to lose your current monarchy. That what this entire thing is about. Trump is going to win, as most people see right through the political persecution. I could elaborate more truth in detail about your kind, but I would probably get booted of this platform, as they have already colluded with the current monarchy.
Voting Democrat in a constitutional Republic is ridiculous.
The next time Trump opens the big mouth of his, I hope the judge put him in jail.
Anyone who finds this "genuinely shocking" hasn't been paying attention.
Not me. If this was Democrat he'd already be in jail
Right. They’ve obviously been on trump’s side the whole time. It makes me sick. But I’ve seen it all along, so why can’t everybody else?
Finally, an honest viewpoint
Trump was never impeached or charged with anything..😂😂 love the way these hosts have lost their heads..😂😂
@@bloopgoesdonald6045 Really?
The positions in the supreme court need to be readjusted and leveled off at 10 years and then the judges MUST be reelected back into their position. Supreme court should not be a life position.
Ari got a white hair spot on his head over this news
SCOTUS needs to be abolished as it is a judicial entity without accountability and it chooses its cases which makes it a non-essential entity.
The United States of America's Constitution and The Bill of Rights needs to go too, right?
Let's get rid of free and fair elections also,
Exactly right..
Agree, or at least a mandatory a 50/50 split.
Current scotus = Self preservation first, protecting their preferred prez second, Country dead last!!
I think the not-so-supreme court is doing several things...
1. They are twisting themselves into knots to assist trump and STALL.
2. They are causing a delay such that some of trump's trials cannot/will not occur before the 2024 election.
3. By not handing down a decision before the prez election, they are rolling the dice to see which candidate wins.
4. If Biden wins, they will rule against immunity because they don't want anyone that is not trump to have immunity. They will TRY to pass this off as being non-partisan in an effort to regain some of the credibility they have lost (don't be fooled! It would be just a BS show, until the next R is elected).
5. If trump wins, only then will they grant prez immunity to forever protect their favored prez.
This tactic is a win-win for the scotus first and foremost, because unfortunately, that is ALL they care about first. Promoting/protecting/saving an R pres is secondary.
That's what I would do if I was a corrupt, immoral, unethical, biased, agenda-based, all-powerful body with seemingly unchecked power and lifetime appointments.
So so shameful what this Supreme Court has done
What? Apply the law as per legislation precedent and without malice or favour - this is the attitude combined with the democrats corrupt use of our judicial system to wage lawfare on opponents what if the shoe was on the other foot would you be so enraged grow up
😂😂😂😂 you sound like a Karen please don't let yourself on fire over it
What does "let yourself on fire" mean?
Coming into these comment sections is alarming. What these "news" channels are pushing is straight propaganda, and you're all victims of it.
The Democrat cult speaketh lol
Imagine political commentators who only report on one side of the fence calling Supreme Court Justices political hacks ... completely delusional lol
Has anything good ever come out of a conservative administration ? No.
The argument Alito pushed forward was idiotic and insane.
That's because he's the MOST Unqualified incel on the bench. Then Gorsich then Kavanagh the drunk
Alito is idiotic and insane.
Insanity 😢
He's desperate to find the justification for the decision those fascist "Justices" have already made...
The false equivalencies of a drone stike done on terrorists from another country being the same as organizing an attempt to steal the election was disgusting.
Increase the SC to 13 seats, and put in term limit of 12 years for all SC justices.
Now!!
13 seats NOW! While we still can!
1/2 the country would be superstitious of the number 13. Better make it 15.😐
Maybe Americans need to rethink their justice system altogether.
Revolting actually,... the Supreme Court, to be clear.
They should now be called “injustices” rather than justices. Injustice Thomas. Injustice Alito…
Justice Roberts should have Reined in all of the hypotheticals & focus on the Task at hand.
These Justices are a Joke!!
🤗🤗🤗🤗
🤗😃😃😃
SUPREME COURT JUSTICES ARE NOT DECEIVED, MANIPULATED, OR POLITICIZED
WAY TO GO JUSTICES !!!🤗🤗🤗🤗
High Anxiety and I feel like I’ve been kicked in the stomach. Dear God this country is in huge trouble
Nah.... we'll be fine.
You'll be ok 😊
Take a knee and drink water, drama queen. Trump will be your president soon and the country will be in good hands. He might even end a few wars.
😂😂😂
Yes it’s in a disasterous mess - thanks to Biden who is as corrupt ad the day is long. And MSNBC coverd for him and all Democrats.
That's how they need you to feel. They can't stay in power if you don't vote blue no matter who.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is that good men stand by and do nothing" - Edmund Burke
Which is precisely what they are doing.
After the dust settles, one thing is clear, at minimum, Alito and Thomas cannot be allowed to remain on the court.
why not
Clarence is pretty much under his wifes thumb. His decisions are what his wife wants. So he makes no right decisions.
Oh my word. Those judges need to be indicted and removed from the bench. There is no way they are for America the people or the constitution. It is absolutely criminal.
You do realize that people can only be indicted for crimes that actually exist.
The word you are searching for is impeached and I agree.
They have life appointments!
@@susanboltonbriggs2843and that makes us as a country totally lost and democracy is gone and criminals run us
@janethertzer9646 yes the Supreme Court Justice have lifetime appointed career! Or if they choose to retire
These people are intent on fulfillment of the Seven Mountains Mandate, which has been their goal for decades - Thomas and Alito actually should be prosecuted, and Ginni Thomas for sure. We are not a monarchy, not even a ceremonial one - nobody has absolute immunity, and he was not doing his job when he committed crimes.
AWAYS REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO ROME🤯🤢
Remember why the founding fathers DID NOT WANT A KING OR QUEEN🤢🤯
Vote for the democratic party in ALL elections and save our nation from Kings and Queens.
How do we hold these judges accountable to the law and how do we the people bring them to justice for criminal behavior?
Now that we know the only real question for Americans is what are we going to do about it?
Government overthrow by legal citizens of the United States 😊
Vote Blue in numbers too big to ignore!!
@@davidbecker2107 Yes, you can elect a blue Congress to make laws that force the court's hand.
I'm going to get some movie theater buttered popcorn and watch November
As a constitutional lawyer, other than in “failed states” or dictatorships, I have never seen a more partisan Court than the current US Supreme Court. The only way to fix this is to change the constitution to set term limits for judges as we have in Australia and remove the political system for the appointment of judges. There is no separation of powers if the judges are appointed based on their political affiliations or philosophies. Judges should be appointed on their legal acumen and experience not based on which political party they are registered to. Only then will you minimise, or avoid altogether, the bias towards either a right- or left-wing leaning Court.
Thomas should be recused from this! He is completely shameless and compromised!!!