Ep 81 More Crappy Boat Projects
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2019
- The pre-launch maintenance and upgrade projects aboard Talisman continue, with install of all new head/toilet piping, Oceanaire SkyScreens, sea-cocks and through-hull fitting swaps, and the installation of our new clothes washing machine.
Appreciate you guys taking the time to document this during difficult conditions... And yeah, I really recognize the sweating that occurs when faced with cramped and uncomfortable working conditions... Everything feels even more difficult and the sweat just pile on even more... it just sucks... But.... very rewarding once it's done.. 😊
Indeed R.E. I had a project list that ran two pages and half of them won't even make it past the editing. And that's not counting the projects I never got to, like the remote windlass control and alternator charge controller.
"Old guy working hard" nothing wrong with that ! You re doing great man! Enjoy your knowledge.
Thanks much Peter. We try to let folks know whatever pitfalls we come across. Appreciate your being with us.
It shows that you love your boat. All that blood sweat and tears will eventually make you love her even more. It's a real labour of love.
Thanks Ben.
Boat plumbing is without doubt the nastiest job to undertake but oh so rewarding when done right. Good job you two!
Thanks Thomas. It means a lot to get the "attaboys" from our viewers. It helps replace the bad memories with better ones. And now I get to think about how clean and new it all looks. Plus, no smells to speak of.
Thanks for the "crappy boat jobs" video. I actually enjoy watching them. It does come as a surprise just how much age does affect one's ability to perform seemingly simple tasks.
Hi Brad. Man, isn't that the truth! When I was a kid all this would be child's play. Wait, that's a bad pun. I'll start over. When I was in my twenties I'd do jobs like this all day and wake up the next morning ready to do it all over again with a smile on my face. Now I just hurt. But the jobs need doing and until I physically can't do them, they will have to get done. There's not much else that you can do.
Reminds me of the old plumber’s tale while unblocking a toilet at a customers home the customer saw the plumber up to his elbow in the u bend - and said ‘OMG I do not know how you can do that’ - he replied it’s easy when you understand that while it’s shit to you - it’s bread and butter to me.😀
Sounds about right. There was an old episode of "Fraser" where Fraser's brother Niles is complaining that his BMW 6 series had to go into the shop for service and it was like $5,000 for repairs. The plumber pops his head out from the bathroom and says "Yeah, I used to have one of those. I gave it to my kid when he went off to Yale". Niles almost has a heart attack.
Nice video, really shows that owning a boat means doing repairs and upgrades.
Hope you get some sailing as a reward pretty soon.
Thanks DG. It's always way more working than sailing, although you can front-load the work and then just get mostly sailing if you're lucky. Thanks for the kind words, as always.
Hard work pays off. The boat is beautiful. Thank you
Thanks Sean. Appreciate it.
As always, an interesting video & insight into boat ownership. Thanks!
Thanks Bob!
great video - thanks for sharing.
Thanks Rick!
Great job you two.
Thanks Marcello!
Patrick d here really enjoy your experiences with Talisman, may be older but very much the wiser. big fan.
Thanks Patrick.
Well done 👍⛵️
Thanks SS.
Awesome Job!!!!!!
Thanks Andre!
Now, with your experiance, I am going to book you for those works on my coming 485er. 😉 It was you and your amazing videos and insights that let me choose the 485 as the perfect boat for me and my wife.
Well done you two. Hope you managed a nice meal and a beer on the waterfront when you had finished. It helps!
Oh, yeah. We managed that just fine. Absent the beers I think I would have gotten more done. Anyway, thanks so much for watching.
i was just thinking about where you blokes went to then you popped up again the yt feed, so i subbed to make sure i dont lose you again :)
Terrific! We love hearing that.
nice vlog!
Thanks Brett.
You guys are doing a great job and rich or not, you'll know it was done right!
Yeah, we try to keep costs under control, and as is pretty obvious I'm sure it's not like we're poor and destitute. But the money we have is finite (saved over decades) and we know that we'll eventually run out if we don't watch the outflow. Doing this can never be inexpensive really, and to try to do the cruising life without some money in the bank will quickly lead to dangerous situations.
Sat down with lunch and saw you'd put a new video up. Shame it was all about toilets to start with - it put me off my lunch. Joking apart, another informative and well-presented video.
Thanks Richard. Sorry about your lunch but you were warned. Anyway, always happy when the viewers are left happy.
Yes. Salt water. Plan for fresh water flush.
I've never seen a fresh water system on a sailboat of our size. I imagine superyachts, with their large watermakers and generators, etc. probably have them. And individual owners could easily plumb a few new valves but we're pretty happy with what we have.
I say this with affection as I look in the mirror. We sweat in temperate conditions because we are fat. And, the older we get, the harder it is to lose weight.
Probably right. But sweat we do, and with the sweating comes weight loss and I welcome that.
There is rubber hose for sanitation that will bend that tight in 1.5" I use Greenline hose which is made in the Czech Republic or Italy.
Thanks for the info. As always, we were under time constraints and pretty much at the mercy of what the chandlery stocked. But good to know that are better options out there. These are times when we miss being in the US where parts are a phone call away.
Green line hoses... Isn't that made in Vancouver Canada?
@@R.E.HILL_ The company is Canadian but their hoses are made in Europe.
Kevin...the audio is much better on this video than the last one. Not perfect, but better!
Still looking forward to seeing the "wind in your sails & on your stern", soon!
Thanks Scott. I do try to use whatever constructive criticism comes my way, and did bump the volume quite a bit. Keep letting me know on this. The mics have the ability to be set for a 10 db increase, but doing that brings in a lot of background noise. People complained last season about wind noise, and I was trying to control that as well. But the fact of the matter was that it was blowing like stink, and it was loud for us too. Anyway, appreciate your thoughts.
Massive jobs. But very satisfying when it all comes together.! Very well done.. that piping can really be a bitch.!!,
Thanks Georges. Indeed. I hammered through it dreaming of the final completion and then knowing that I'd hopefully never need to address problems in the future. But that's probably a pipe dream.
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Much better to do it yourself and look after your money. All the best...
Agreed. Thanks for being with us.
Look at the bright side, you don't own a catamaran with four heads? :) I'm amazed you/boats don't have more issues with the plumbing due to distance and bends to the holding tank...while using little water. The amount of engineering involved in that one crappy system. :):) Poor Wendy always the one getting zapped. I'm guessing she didn't cook that night. Great job, perfect team. Fair winds!
Hi Clay. Indeed, glad we don't have a cat ;-). And the engineering is indeed impressive. A lot of thought went into it. Meanwhile, Wendy stands around these days not wanting to touch anything metal. Go figure.
I wonder if blowing a heatgun or hairdryer through the pipe might warm it enough to be more pliable?
Indeed. I think a hair dryer is too weak, although in a pinch it would probably help. The heat gun is really a mandatory tool aboard. However, I'll note that heating the rubber hose did nothing. The trick, as far as there was one, was to clean the inside face of the hose (to get the dust from my disc grinder out), then coat the surface with silicone plumber's grease. Finally, the hose had to be physically rocked back and forth onto the barbed fitting. This required hand and arm strength that was beyond that of most people, including Wendy. The hose has a spiral wire inside that makes enlarging the hose I.D. more or less impossible.
@@SailingTalisman I was just hoping it might help. So in other words it was just a mongrel of a job. Glad you overcame it in the end. Cheers.
@@SailingTalisman Try blocking one end of the pipe and filling with hot/boiling water for a few minutes, then let water run into the bilge before pulling the pipe through. You could also rub some petrolium jelly on the pipe to help it through. Clean the pipe with baby wipes..
can you buy a boat without any interiors so that you have access to the bulkheads?
No. That would be bad.
Its a tough job but someone's got to do it! Drop us an email and we will tell you about aqua furta. Harmless to plastics, better than vinegar, wipes out calcium build up in pipes and tanks. We are going to do a video on it soon. Sail safe. Ant, Cid and the pooch crew. xx
Hi Ant. We know about Aqua Forte (having wintered in Gibraltar), but the problem is that it goes by other names in Italy, Portugal and Greece. In fact, may not even be available in Greece. Looking to see if someone can explain to us the equivalent since they have no idea what the product is here.
Not no idjit! 😆😆😆
Yep. We try. Not always successful, but a work in progress.
Kevin. You get people, " that say - old rich white guy, doing this or doing that ".
My answer for you " to tell them ".
Well, I believe it was George C Scott who said it best...
" THEY EARNED IT "............
AND I thought Wendy was going to be watching the fishing pole. Not helping you, on your man chores. ;)
Hi Eric. The concept of earning things is lost on many these days. And it's too bad. But on the other hand we see tons of people out there doing the cruising life by keeping things simple and living light on the land. As for Wendy, she kicks it every day. Wait till you see the next video!
Why not use hard PVC piping angles and elbows and split your high quality hos at impossible bends?
Won't work. Too many curves.
Hi folks, after the
Salt water toilet, by chance?
Of course. Not enough fresh water to use for such a basic need. The real bluewater boats are expected to be on long passages across oceans, where fresh water is a valuable commodity. Anyway, it's a system that works pretty well as long as you keep it clean.
@@SailingTalisman You really think so? With modern highly efficient watermakers, some that run at 12 or 24volts? Modern Oysters, Hylas, etc., serious bluewater cruisers, many have modern fresh water flush electric heads that use less than a gallon per flush (quarts) and thus don't create any calcium scale and much less odor. Sounds like you spend time dealing with calcium scale on a regular basis that could be eliminated.
Placing white letter text against the sky or other light backgrounds is a bad choice. Everybody else places text at the left bottom of the frame.
I'll see what I can do.
@@SailingTalisman Thank you. Also, I've never seen so many stinky hoses in my life! An article in "Practical Sailor" years ago identified only two hoses that were any good and one was imported from Australia. The other was a very expensive Trident brand hose. Some boat owners went to PVC hard pipe where feasible.
look's like money pit
Always.
pumps, valves, macerators, hoses, through hulls, raw sewer tanks, pump-outs, odor, maintenance, mishaps...all to get residential land-based waste management on a sailboat - that makes no sense. Is there a reason you didn't consider odorless, waterless, desiccation-based system like nature's head, air head, c-head? no one I know who switched over would ever switch back. Think about all the cost and work and space you would save.
I find it hard to believe that mass simply disappears. At some point you have to shovel out the old shit, and that's got to be a real bummer. As for our system, it's designed to mostly carry you over when you're in port or near to shore where you don't want to be polluting the local waters. When you're offshore or have a head that's dedicated to peeing, then you can simply turn the diverter valve to "sea" and discharge directly to the outside. Our system works very well when operating as designed but needs maintenance and the occasional full refit, which I imagine needs doing on all the systems eventually. It's part of having a 25 year old boat.
So, only pee overboard.
Hard to do in the marina. They frown on that.
@@SailingTalisman, don't dangle your peen over the rail, pee in your coffee cup then slosh that overboard. simple.