Can we discuss the part the Colleges played in him getting away with rape and murder for so many years? Hiding their sport star's crimes didn't only take justice from his early victims, but it allowed him to go on to commit murder. I feel that the parents should sue those Colleges.
This feels like an ongoing issue in US colleges. They should not be allowed to continue "handling these things in-house". SO many serial killers have, as a part of their story, getting away with things for longer because colleges won't or don't get the police involved.
Can we discuss the fact that the whole society appreciates jocks more than any female, and works to protect rapists against the raped, so much so that boys learn from early stages that women are just things to be used, and there are no consequences? So much so that they get upset and depressed when there are any consequences. Jesse Matthew didn't see his victims as human beings. A lot of men don't.
Yes or no questions in court can be used to slant the truth. I refused to answer just yes or no, was threatened with contempt of court. I explained just yes or no was not the “whole truth” as i had sworn to tell, and they let me explain. Whew! It was frightening, but the real truth was told. I understand your feeling about testifying! ‘
I was thinking that when I was listening, I thought to say, I would only answer if I was allowed to elaborate, yours is better using the truth of the vow to tell the truth to support it. The courts are intimidating, they play on it, you have to calm yourself, so you can clearly tell the truth. Well done good example!
How the hell was the husband not a prime suspect from the very first day!? He was abusive for years before and tried to kill her weeks before she disappeared!! These detectives really dropped the ball SMH Her poor parents🙏🙏
It appears he was a "person of interest" from the beginning, once people realized this was not a woman who'd have disappeared willingly, had been a victim of injury/illness/accident/etc. Once detectives realized she simply wasn't anywhere else, there was no other suspect. Sometimes there is a prime person of interest or suspect, often for years, but having enough evidence to convict at trial is key.
It should’ve never been treated as if she ran away because the only person saying she did shouldn’t have been anywhere near her to make those claims in the first place. They didn’t investigate the man at all, just said he had an alibi and left it at that until his friend visited him in prison. You obviously would start investigating his close associates if you were investigating him at all. If they’d been on it like they should’ve been from the beginning they may have been able to retrieve her body. Did they even check phone records? I’m sure he spoke to those people a lot.
@@Idontwantone950 They did investigate his alibi. And it was perfect. Too perfect but still they investigated it. What would the police do? No body, no evidence of a crime, he has an alibi. They even found he called a woman he hadn't spoken to for years.
He was a suspect from the beginning but thinking or suspecting someone’s guilt and proving it in a court of law is another thing altogether. You’re very naive about the entire process of investigation through to arrest and finally conviction.
How was there not a civil suit against the John Paul Jones Arena for not attending to a woman wounded at their event? And on top of that, left her outside in the cold and injured. I heard them describe the no ins and outs policy. No exception for an injured woman alone?
@@denisemoore6134uh OK honey you didn't answer the q nor did u relevantly address the substance of the matter 😂. Some people. So the stat of lim had run barring personnel injury/negligence/duty of care suits.
That's such a knee-jerk reaction looking to lay blame. How could you prove their actions or lack of were done with the purpose of serving a victim up to a predator? And where does it end? Should the family sue the friends for not staying with her when she was injured? And what would be the point? Lawsuits can't bring people back from the dead.
😅 I was looking for your comment.. the similarity is eerie. it's like he's picked up her scent and is getting excited, he's hanging back a bit, still in cover, all the while keeping his eye on her. soon he'll pull up alongside, single her out, and separate her from the herd.
I think it's pathetic and inhuman of Universities to just get rid of the problem instead of investigating and trying to solve the issue. It's utter discussing - cases like these are the reason to even more convince me to rather go to other countries and not the US.
I think a lot of universities and hospitals sweep it under the rug rather than risk tarnishing their reputation. And obviously, at a cost to society. Whoever decided to just palm him off from the first university, then the second, would know they contributed to those girls murder and the rest of the assaults.
Because of all the woke ideology being pushed into our court systems, the criminals seem to have more rights than victims!! It is absurd!! Not only that, but Biden has opened our southern border WIDE OPEN and we have MILLIONS of people flooding in from third world countries, that don't even have identification!! What the hell??!! South and Central American countries are literally emptying their jails and prisons, then helping to facilitate transportation for these people to come to our doorstep, bc they don't want them back in their communities!! These are the kind who evade border patrol and weasel their way into our communities!! These officials are taking advantage of us having an old senile corrupt "President", who really isn't making many of the decisions, but the American hating leftists are behind the scenes working with China and Soros and destroying this country!!! THIS is why SO MANY Americans LOVE Trump!!! He wants to protect our country from being invaded, but the Obama appointed judges and Democrats fight him at every turn!!!
Ive been to 9 other countries so far... I suggest visiting before you think the grass is greener... In some ways it is, but not in the way people think.
The hospitals that employed the nurse who is one of the most prolific serial killers, did exactly what the universities did...... After these vile criminals ate convicted, all the additional parties who facilitated a cover up to protect their resources should also Be held accountable, and sued for negligence with potential jail time
This Nat sounds exactly like my dad. He always had a following of friends and girlfriends that kissed the ground he walked on but we knew a different person at home. I called it wear masks, he had a mask for other people and we knew him without it.
I know exactly what you mean about them wearing a mask, and the mask is different depending on who it's aimed at. I call it "painting pictures". They paint the scene for others in such a way that they control the narrative.
I also called it like that, masks tailored to manipulate people. These masks exist from the very beginning, it’s not that they suddenly change; when you met them, they were already wearing a mask. If they had observed you previously, they were probably wearing one made for you and when you are not interesting for them anymore then they just change their mask. They lack of empathy, remorse, guilt, deep thoughts, or deep feelings. They don’t care if they harm you, it can even feed their need for power and success so they can even like to be cruel to you. They are hurt inside and frustrated. They feel frequently envy towards others. This is because they cannot connect to others like a normal person, and they have felt a lot of rejection in the past. So they are in certain way obsessed by socializing, being socially successful and powerful. Money and power can offer them superiority on others, since naturally others don’t want to connect with them. Be careful to all the signals before you establish any relation with them. They won’t have any problem to destroy you when they do not longer need you. They are manipulative and master liars. They also prefer to lie even if there’s no need to do it, either by cowardice or because they feel superior by lying to others. They can also be reckless, impulsive, and goofy, because they don’t see danger, so they can get you into trouble, even if they don’t want to. However, they are not immature, they are monsters, they do not care for others, and they do not change. There is neither cure nor therapy against that personality, it is intrinsic to the brain.
I question the theme here that these criminals make "mistakes" for which they are caught. Large chunks of their lives are completely off the map morally. They are more giant walking mistakes than they are people. In both these cases, it's cops and the justice system who make mistakes repeatedly until they finally get just enough right to stop these malicious killers. The most compelling puzzle portrait at the end is not of some interesting killer, but of universities,police departments and courts that could prevent these cases ever materializing, if they'd just have better policies about dealing with the abuse of women, be they physically threatened wives or university students with assault complaints.
He was getting ready for an attempted murder/assault trial just weeks before her going 'missing'?? How would it take anyone more than 2 seconds to suspect him?
So, Metallica helped remind people, and offered a reward. I suppose you could say they helped, but that's stretching things a bit. The truth is, this is clickbait, and I despise clickbait.
Metallica didn't do Sh!+ But cry about songs and Napster. They didn't do anything for this case. Why would you give them credit?? Okay everyone, Metallica Didn't help with this case just so you know. It's all BS. About Metallica.
Jessie was searching for any vulnerable female, so even if his last victim was 19 years old, feels like the narrator is victim blaming the female because she was young. This perpetrator would have abducted any female in any age range. He was looking for an opportunity, and he found it that night in Hannah Graham. Any female in his path would have been his next victim.
You are overthinking it. Most killers have a certain age/look preference, especially the ones that are sxual predators. He was seen at those locals, trying to get around girls of exact similar age, as the victims, and not older ones. Just because the detective pointed out the decisions of a 19 yi, does not mean he is blaming her, he even stressed out that point. And 19 yo do make bad decissions, everyone i know, made extremely bad decisions, when they were that young, including myself
I hope that stupid concert hall allows readmittance now. She had a head injury, was probably drinking? Geez... Set up for failure there, and doing what any young girl does- then some predator is waiting around the corner. So infuriating, poor Morgan 😢
Considering the number of people who faint from heat or get hurt in scuffles or falls at big events, it baffles me that there isn't some kind of first aid station to attend to the sick and injured. After all, amusement parks have them. Zoos have them. Such a thing might have saved Hannah. She would have gotten her injury tended and been either sitting there safe when her friends were ready to go or she might have even returned to them and finished the concert.
RIP tothe victims in these horrid events. My heart goes out to their family and friends. I'm glad both were finally convicted. Hats off to the cops that didn't give up.
I honestly hate when people equate horrible men to nature's killers. Predators in nature, are VERY aware of the surroundings, of the other prey animals, or the landscape, etc, because they need to be successful to survive, & even the apex predators of the world have low success rates pretty often, but also because if they screw up & get wounded, they could die from that. And while there has always been some confusion about humans & animals, serial killers aren't apex predators, they are monsters, & while there are animals that use violence & even war within their own lives, like some chimpanzee groups, & there are even animals that will rape other animals, like ducks, we humans have the most opportunities to analyze the world, & so when we choose to be monsters, its far worse than an animal hunting to live.
I agree!! These Are Monsters with no regard for life and who they hurt. The animal kingdom n pedos n rapos r two very different beings types. Animals hunt for survival!! These bottom feeders monsters r no comparison ..
Back in the eighties there was a guy robbing stores on my end of town. I went in the neighborhood store and the sketch was up. Looked just like me. :) fortunately they knew me well . Was quite the joke every timeI went in there.
The dude didn't make a mistake. If there is no plan or scheme, you can't make a mistake anyways. He was just lucky for a long time until his luck ran out. But it goes to show how long you can go undetected even if you don't clean up after your murder. However, that window of luck gets smaller and smaller with improvements in forensics. One of the most recent advances is creating face images from DNA. That makes it harder and harder to go undetected if you are sloppy and it increases the required cleaning effort if you have a plan for the murder. That won't prevent crimes in the future, but there is an increased chance to catch a perpetrator before the second murder.
Didn't they say she was an identity -protected lip reader? If showing half of someone's face is considered identity protection, I'll be sure not to get interviewed 😅
You are assuming that the lady who you saw on screen was the lip reader... Police, documentary makers often use actors/models as stand ins for people who have their identity protected, record the interview and get someone else to read the words like a script. Lastly they add the sound and video together later. If it's really the lady they can alter how they look with wigs, prosthetics, makeup, stage props, etc. I doubt they would show any of the real lady lip reader. Blessings, Dot
Metallica did a wonderful thing. They didn’t have to do anything at all and it was so helpful to the case that they kept it in the public’s attention and offered a reward. Encouraging people to come forward worked!
@ 26:31- Absolutely correct. I did exact same. Pawned my rings. I needed diapers for MY baby. I say 'MY' baby cause MY body nurished & protected & carried her for 9+ months. My ex lied & cheated & stole from us......Good riddance.
How the Chief spoke about Hannah is ABSURD! Victim blaming at it's WORST!!! Specifically saying that he made sure they did NOT blame her for her choices that night...but that she made her OWN choices...but wanted to make sure his team didn't BLAME her?! WTF?! She was 19! And didn't know the area. Just how he said it...insisted on making a point about it?! What a douche!
DUDE SAME!!! Check out Disturban, Little crime shop(something like that), lazy masquerade, the crime atlas, that chapter, coffeehouse crime, explore with us, serial killer documentaries, beyond evil and this is monsters... some of my favorites.
Thanks for the comment, I was scrolling the comments to work out if this was clickbait or not. There was a similar video about how paint had helped solve a murder which involved a woman becoming suspicious about a property where she went to buy paint. That cased surprisingly lived up to the title even though I was expecting it to be clickbait. But this time I was even more sure it was clickbait.
‘I worked very hard for her decisions not to be questioned’ HER decisions aren’t the problem here. It is HIS decisions, it has always been HIS decisions, HIS actions and HIS responsibility for a woman being graped and unalived. Fuck that noise, you ain’t no hero for upholding her reputation. And that’s the only reason you brought it up. ‘Look at me, I’m the hero for while thinking it in my head I wouldn’t let anyone question her choices’
There is a documentary on predators in US universaties and colleges: hunting grounds. Having watched that, the second stoy, however sad, does not come as a surprise. Shame on those college administrators for lefting him get away with what he did
Funny how things connect. Click bait or not, this is an interesting story and worth hearing. Just like the band "Soul Asylum" and their song "Runaway Train" helps remind people to never give up on finding someone. 🤟
@@musakui Right... I thought at least once the video started over until I looked at the timer to find out they're just repeating it all like a car alarm
Two beautiful young ladies lost their lives to this cretin. Such a terrible shame. Young ladies make sure you stay with your friends and friends make sure you watch out for your friends.
@@dawnarellano7903 right. James just went on TV to ask for the public's help to find the girl. Unfortunately the murderer will claim another victim before he was caught.
@@eddo1983Yes true! I do believe there was more than that?? Yep terrible !! I see now this monster did claim more lives😡😞I'm to the part we're he was being transported for another charge. Wow !! N ppl from his town were fooled by him!! Oh man!!!!
Didn’t realize 2nd case was actually a cold case. The fact this guy had a scholarship & couldn’t follow it through (so proud standing by a yellow cab, 🙄) & accused of rape & twice ‘said’ it was consensual & not charged, let him go on with the only interest this huge loser pos had, overpowering young women & killing them. He, of course, should be in prison for good or on death row, but also whoever let him slip through his first crimes should be held responsible also. Hope Hannah’s & Morgan’s family found peace & Hannah & Morgan rest in heavenly peace & love. 🙏❤️✝️
Mrs Harrington is an amazing advocate for Morgan. She jumped right into action she never whined she spoke the entire time about what Morgan was missing not what she was missing or what she wanted everything was about Morgan she was so wonderful of a mother so strong so dedicated I'm so sorry for this family's lost God bless them.
It really bugs me that the psychologist said he didn't know the difference between his sports violence and sexual violence. "All he knows..." Add of he didn't know anything else, like right from wrong.
Huh, interesting. I'd think that that is for a few different reasons: that 1. Partners and family members are more likely to have carried out the crime, 2. Innocent partners or family members are more likely to be interviewed about the crime, and 3. They like to paint the victim as being a very warm and caring person in order to drive home the loss caused by the crime. I hadn't noticed the use of that particular word before, but I'll keep an eye out for it now.
53:00 We had a case exactly like the Jesse Matthew case at the University of Minnesota in the 1980s: a basketball player raped several women and the university covered for him.
1998- Scotland - A mother named Arlene Fraser went missing when her child hat to be picked up from school and her husband Nat Fraser became a suspect later even though he had an alibi and he was not living in the family home at the time of Arlene’s disappearance. Arlene had seen a solicitor to divorce her husband and Nat was an abuser and had attacked her previously. 18 months passed since Arlene’s disappearance and still no information about the missing woman. It took police four years to prosecute Nat Fraser and two of his accomplices. But it didn’t end there.
When are colleges and students going to realize that they need to report suspected crimes to the police?!? If they had done so the first time, the rest of the crimes may not have happened!
The Laws in the UK, Scotland, Canada, and Australia are quite different than in the US when given a Life Setence? I read about a Murder Case where the guy Served a minimum of 7 years! Proving Insanity isn't as difficult and when Psychiatrists deem the Patient Sane, they are released back into the public, instead of transferring them into a Prison to serve their Sentence. This Husband clearly Conspired and Pre-Meditated the Murder of his wife, destroying her corpse and Evidence which additional Charges should have been added to his Original Charges? Not only this, he previously attempted to Murder her by means of strangulation. However, she was able to fight back, filing Charges obtaining a Protective Order and Divorce papers. This is the most Critical and Dangerous time for a Woman who suffers from DV! Victims are at the Highest Risk of becoming Murder Victims and need Protection when they press charges, or file for Protective Orders, or Divorce? His Cowardly Accomplices actually got away with Being Charged and Prison Sentences! Shame on Prosecutors! These Cowards committed Murder and Conspiracy to Commit Murder! I wonder if they're Father's? If they have Daughters? If they close their eyes at night before going to sleep and don't hear her screams to live? Ihope they'll never stop hearing her begging for her life? "Please! I never hurt You? Why are you doing this to me? Please don't kill me? I'll do anything you want? Just let me go home to my babies"? How can they live with themselves? Maybe one night it will be too much if ever one of them grows a conscience? Can the Prosecution?
Sounds to me like Detectives simply didn't look at the most likely suspect initially. Until you eliminate the most likely suspects first, you will overlook the real answer.
He knew the difference. He just didn't care. Because he is inadequate in every way. He couldn't charm a woman with humor, wit, money, intelligence or woo them with Good looks. Like a dog stealing crumbs from the carpet under children, was his only way of acquiring anything of value.
You can't be tried twice if you have been found innocent in the first trial. Many convicted people are let out of jail on technicalities, have their convictions overturned, and are retried by the prosecutors.
The heading is misleading, metallica done almost zero, offered a reward is all, which would not of even been claimed, just PR. They had no participation in any of the unfolding events.
All Countrys need much more HD Cameras in the Houses on each Corner of a Building Etc Etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"How Metallica Helped To Solve A Murder". How did a $50,000 reward from Metallica help solve the murder? That headline is click bait. It's cool that they offered it and I'm glad the killer will rot in prison. Condolences to the families of the victims.
It says helped, not solved. Did they help? The answer would have to be yes, they keep people thinking about her and they offered money. No critical thinking anymore.
almost 40 years ago a friend of mine unlifed herself and left only a song playing on repeat , Metallica's song Fade to Black , she was being abused by her step father and was pregnant by him and forced to have an abortion and lied to her mother that is was a nother male that did it , she took her life and left that song playing , read the words and understand what she was saying , missing one inside of me .....shes gone and he never was brought to justice
My goodness conviction overturned on a technicality? The justice system is so weird. Also, not this case, but no one should get a plea deal without telling where the victim's body is
Save yourself an hour and a half of your life. There are two stories included in this video. The second story is about 45 minutes in and that’s the story is where Metallica offers a 50k award for information leading to the arrest of the person guilty of murdering a young college student. While I agree that these women deserve a right to have their stories be told, and they deserve to be remembered, using click bait is shallow and not a proper way to go about telling their stories…and no one appreciates it!
1:01:12 Metallica puts up reward money. 47:50 UVA women's lacrosse student-athlete Yeardley Love was also murdered in Charlottesville, VA, by her ex-boyfriend George Huguely in 2010.
Arlene was so pretty. Sure a wonderful Mom & just deserved so so much better than that bag of rotten flesh. Hope her children grew up with love, happiness, empathy & compassion. My dad was an alcoholic but kept his engineering job till we were in last few yrs of HS when Mom divorced him. But my Mom was hardworking & educated, mostly any time he tried to fight with her, if he didn’t run she would whip his but*, she was an ex farm girl, just very strong & quick! We learned from her & none of us girls married an alcoholic or abuser. Rest in heaven’s beauty & love Arlene. 🙏❤️
Chief, many people might have said you got the wrong guy.... Except for all the Bartenders and Waitresses who said he was a creep and unacceptable towards women.
I believe it would help if there're TV programs base on catching unknown killers through methods of testing citizens eg monitor a person behaviours when placed in an opportunitic environments for crime to be committed
So whoever is at working the front door at that arena turned a young woman who is obviously bleeding from the head away and didn’t have her come in and sit down with staff as they called 9-1-1?!?!?! Gross negligence! That would’ve saved her life. I’d sue them so hard if I was her family. And her friends weren’t real friends. Because if it were me that happened to and was stuck outside and told friends I’d go back to the hotel, my friends would’ve immediately told me to stay right there and they would’ve come straight out there to take me back so I wouldn’t be going alone. And I would’ve done the same for my friends. But none of us would’ve been walking around anywhere by ourselves to begin with so there would’ve been 2 of us out there together at least. Young people are not careful these days. Never go anywhere alone. It isn’t safe.
When you take the oath in court you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So, when you can’t tell the whole truth by answering a question with a yes or no answer turn to the judge and say so. If necessary, remind him/her of the oath. Stand your ground and don’t be intimidated. I’m heartily sick of the court games played by Barristers.
53:05 "I think that he would not have understood the difference between exploiting that prowess on the sports field & exploiting that prowess with women to attack & abuse women". What a surprisingly stupid statement.
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden A song but also a book about a young girls experience with psychosis snd hospital admissions Written in the 60’s
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Can we discuss the part the Colleges played in him getting away with rape and murder for so many years? Hiding their sport star's crimes didn't only take justice from his early victims, but it allowed him to go on to commit murder. I feel that the parents should sue those Colleges.
This feels like an ongoing issue in US colleges. They should not be allowed to continue "handling these things in-house". SO many serial killers have, as a part of their story, getting away with things for longer because colleges won't or don't get the police involved.
Can we discuss the fact that the whole society appreciates jocks more than any female, and works to protect rapists against the raped, so much so that boys learn from early stages that women are just things to be used, and there are no consequences? So much so that they get upset and depressed when there are any consequences. Jesse Matthew didn't see his victims as human beings. A lot of men don't.
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@@mrdr9534Why are you advocating for colleges to hide ra*e and se*ual abuse of its female students? 😮😂
Yes or no questions in court can be used to slant the truth. I refused to answer just yes or no, was threatened with contempt of court. I explained just yes or no was not the “whole truth” as i had sworn to tell, and they let me explain. Whew! It was frightening, but the real truth was told. I understand your feeling about testifying!
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That's awesome. It's not always easy to do the right thing, especially when you have to stand up to an authority figure. Good on ya.
I was thinking that when I was listening, I thought to say, I would only answer if I was allowed to elaborate, yours is better using the truth of the vow to tell the truth to support it. The courts are intimidating, they play on it, you have to calm yourself, so you can clearly tell the truth. Well done good example!
Very Well said
How the hell was the husband not a prime suspect from the very first day!? He was abusive for years before and tried to kill her weeks before she disappeared!! These detectives really dropped the ball SMH
Her poor parents🙏🙏
It appears he was a "person of interest" from the beginning, once people realized this was not a woman who'd have disappeared willingly, had been a victim of injury/illness/accident/etc. Once detectives realized she simply wasn't anywhere else, there was no other suspect. Sometimes there is a prime person of interest or suspect, often for years, but having enough evidence to convict at trial is key.
It should’ve never been treated as if she ran away because the only person saying she did shouldn’t have been anywhere near her to make those claims in the first place. They didn’t investigate the man at all, just said he had an alibi and left it at that until his friend visited him in prison. You obviously would start investigating his close associates if you were investigating him at all. If they’d been on it like they should’ve been from the beginning they may have been able to retrieve her body. Did they even check phone records? I’m sure he spoke to those people a lot.
Like Gabby Petito with the cops.
@@Idontwantone950 They did investigate his alibi. And it was perfect. Too perfect but still they investigated it.
What would the police do? No body, no evidence of a crime, he has an alibi.
They even found he called a woman he hadn't spoken to for years.
He was a suspect from the beginning but thinking or suspecting someone’s guilt and proving it in a court of law is another thing altogether.
You’re very naive about the entire process of investigation through to arrest and finally conviction.
How was there not a civil suit against the John Paul Jones Arena for not attending to a woman wounded at their event? And on top of that, left her outside in the cold and injured. I heard them describe the no ins and outs policy. No exception for an injured woman alone?
They can't stop a person leaving the building. She went outside of her own accord.
@@denisemoore6134uh OK honey you didn't answer the q nor did u relevantly address the substance of the matter 😂. Some people. So the stat of lim had run barring personnel injury/negligence/duty of care suits.
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you speak American English which is not proper English @@denisemoore6134
That's such a knee-jerk reaction looking to lay blame. How could you prove their actions or lack of were done with the purpose of serving a victim up to a predator? And where does it end? Should the family sue the friends for not staying with her when she was injured? And what would be the point? Lawsuits can't bring people back from the dead.
"He went from Fat Albert to Cheetah in seconds." She has a way with words
😅 I was looking for your comment.. the similarity is eerie. it's like he's picked up her scent and is getting excited, he's hanging back a bit, still in cover, all the while keeping his eye on her. soon he'll pull up alongside, single her out, and separate her from the herd.
I think it's pathetic and inhuman of Universities to just get rid of the problem instead of investigating and trying to solve the issue.
It's utter discussing - cases like these are the reason to even more convince me to rather go to other countries and not the US.
I think a lot of universities and hospitals sweep it under the rug rather than risk tarnishing their reputation. And obviously, at a cost to society. Whoever decided to just palm him off from the first university, then the second, would know they contributed to those girls murder and the rest of the assaults.
Because of all the woke ideology being pushed into our court systems, the criminals seem to have more rights than victims!! It is absurd!! Not only that, but Biden has opened our southern border WIDE OPEN and we have MILLIONS of people flooding in from third world countries, that don't even have identification!! What the hell??!! South and Central American countries are literally emptying their jails and prisons, then helping to facilitate transportation for these people to come to our doorstep, bc they don't want them back in their communities!! These are the kind who evade border patrol and weasel their way into our communities!! These officials are taking advantage of us having an old senile corrupt "President", who really isn't making many of the decisions, but the American hating leftists are behind the scenes working with China and Soros and destroying this country!!! THIS is why SO MANY Americans LOVE Trump!!! He wants to protect our country from being invaded, but the Obama appointed judges and Democrats fight him at every turn!!!
Ive been to 9 other countries so far...
I suggest visiting before you think the grass is greener...
In some ways it is, but not in the way people think.
The hospitals that employed the nurse who is one of the most prolific serial killers, did exactly what the universities did......
After these vile criminals ate convicted, all the additional parties who facilitated a cover up to protect their resources should also Be held accountable, and sued for negligence with potential jail time
You don't think it's the same in most countries?
This Nat sounds exactly like my dad. He always had a following of friends and girlfriends that kissed the ground he walked on but we knew a different person at home. I called it wear masks, he had a mask for other people and we knew him without it.
I know exactly what you mean about them wearing a mask, and the mask is different depending on who it's aimed at. I call it "painting pictures". They paint the scene for others in such a way that they control the narrative.
A human chameleon!?
yes exactly! my narcissistic sociopathic dad is a master of charisma and getting people to love him but behind closed doors he was awful
Metallica has heart
I also called it like that, masks tailored to manipulate people. These masks exist from the very beginning, it’s not that they suddenly change; when you met them, they were already wearing a mask. If they had observed you previously, they were probably wearing one made for you and when you are not interesting for them anymore then they just change their mask. They lack of empathy, remorse, guilt, deep thoughts, or deep feelings. They don’t care if they harm you, it can even feed their need for power and success so they can even like to be cruel to you. They are hurt inside and frustrated. They feel frequently envy towards others. This is because they cannot connect to others like a normal person, and they have felt a lot of rejection in the past. So they are in certain way obsessed by socializing, being socially successful and powerful. Money and power can offer them superiority on others, since naturally others don’t want to connect with them. Be careful to all the signals before you establish any relation with them. They won’t have any problem to destroy you when they do not longer need you. They are manipulative and master liars. They also prefer to lie even if there’s no need to do it, either by cowardice or because they feel superior by lying to others. They can also be reckless, impulsive, and goofy, because they don’t see danger, so they can get you into trouble, even if they don’t want to. However, they are not immature, they are monsters, they do not care for others, and they do not change. There is neither cure nor therapy against that personality, it is intrinsic to the brain.
The Metallica doco is the second one and starts roughly on minute 44. The doco just shows 5 secs of them offering a reward to catch the killer.
Thank you
I wonder if they paid and if they were. They are a great band and that was a chunk of change.
Thank you for that.
@@me-hp7vhyou can actually find the answer to that question nowadays. With the internet and all.
Clickbait?
I question the theme here that these criminals make "mistakes" for which they are caught. Large chunks of their lives are completely off the map morally. They are more giant walking mistakes than they are people. In both these cases, it's cops and the justice system who make mistakes repeatedly until they finally get just enough right to stop these malicious killers. The most compelling puzzle portrait at the end is not of some interesting killer, but of universities,police departments and courts that could prevent these cases ever materializing, if they'd just have better policies about dealing with the abuse of women, be they physically threatened wives or university students with assault complaints.
If his co-workers have gone to the police instead of choosing just to tease him and forget about it Heather Graham might be alive today.
He was getting ready for an attempted murder/assault trial just weeks before her going 'missing'?? How would it take anyone more than 2 seconds to suspect him?
Suspecting him sure; convicting him beyond reasonable doubt requires more than 2 seconds.
Right 😂😂. But ya, they KnEw it was him, no mystery. He just covered his tracks so they didn't know if they could convict.
got to prove they did it not that u think or u know they did it got to have evidence
Agree 💯
@ProfAida74 They didn’t even investigate him until his friend visited him in prison. They confirmed he had an alibi and left it at that.
So, Metallica helped remind people, and offered a reward. I suppose you could say they helped, but that's stretching things a bit. The truth is, this is clickbait, and I despise clickbait.
Thanks. I'm 45 minutes in and came to the comments looking for someone to explain the title
@@TwistedRootsMelody 😂😂 I'm 30 seconds in reading your comnent, wondering if this was a hyped up title too.
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Metallica didn't do Sh!+ But cry about songs and Napster. They didn't do anything for this case. Why would you give them credit??
Okay everyone, Metallica Didn't help with this case just so you know.
It's all BS. About Metallica.
20:55, I’m out
You despise little bitty problems sir
I wish the co_workers called the police instead of teasing him😢
Those colleges should be ASHAMED!!
If they can't be held accountable, I'd make very sure they become infamous!
Jessie was searching for any vulnerable female, so even if his last victim was 19 years old, feels like the narrator is victim blaming the female because she was young. This perpetrator would have abducted any female in any age range. He was looking for an opportunity, and he found it that night in Hannah Graham. Any female in his path would have been his next victim.
You are overthinking it. Most killers have a certain age/look preference, especially the ones that are sxual predators. He was seen at those locals, trying to get around girls of exact similar age, as the victims, and not older ones. Just because the detective pointed out the decisions of a 19 yi, does not mean he is blaming her, he even stressed out that point. And 19 yo do make bad decissions, everyone i know, made extremely bad decisions, when they were that young, including myself
I hope that stupid concert hall allows readmittance now. She had a head injury, was probably drinking? Geez... Set up for failure there, and doing what any young girl does- then some predator is waiting around the corner. So infuriating, poor Morgan 😢
Considering the number of people who faint from heat or get hurt in scuffles or falls at big events, it baffles me that there isn't some kind of first aid station to attend to the sick and injured. After all, amusement parks have them. Zoos have them. Such a thing might have saved Hannah. She would have gotten her injury tended and been either sitting there safe when her friends were ready to go or she might have even returned to them and finished the concert.
@@teslagirl1that would cost the venue more so they're like, "naw!" But I feel you. I see zero flaws in your logic!
@@teslagirl1I believe it is law that if you have more than a certain amount of heads. There has to be a first aid station
RIP tothe victims in these horrid events. My heart goes out to their family and friends. I'm glad both were finally convicted. Hats off to the cops that didn't give up.
I honestly hate when people equate horrible men to nature's killers. Predators in nature, are VERY aware of the surroundings, of the other prey animals, or the landscape, etc, because they need to be successful to survive, & even the apex predators of the world have low success rates pretty often, but also because if they screw up & get wounded, they could die from that. And while there has always been some confusion about humans & animals, serial killers aren't apex predators, they are monsters, & while there are animals that use violence & even war within their own lives, like some chimpanzee groups, & there are even animals that will rape other animals, like ducks, we humans have the most opportunities to analyze the world, & so when we choose to be monsters, its far worse than an animal hunting to live.
I agree!! These Are Monsters with no regard for life and who they hurt. The animal kingdom n pedos n rapos r two very different beings types. Animals hunt for survival!! These bottom feeders monsters r no comparison ..
Dont compare the human animal to that of the wild.
Well said!
That psychiatrist/psychologist is speaking pure psychobabble!
Animals kill to survive and out of instinct, humans kill for fun. Can not compare the two.
Amazing sketch artist did a perfect job.
Back in the eighties there was a guy robbing stores on my end of town.
I went in the neighborhood store and the sketch was up.
Looked just like me.
:) fortunately they knew me well .
Was quite the joke every timeI went in there.
Possibly the best sketch I’ve seen
I can’t imagine those girls looking at his evil eyes as the last thing to see.
The dude didn't make a mistake. If there is no plan or scheme, you can't make a mistake anyways. He was just lucky for a long time until his luck ran out. But it goes to show how long you can go undetected even if you don't clean up after your murder. However, that window of luck gets smaller and smaller with improvements in forensics. One of the most recent advances is creating face images from DNA. That makes it harder and harder to go undetected if you are sloppy and it increases the required cleaning effort if you have a plan for the murder. That won't prevent crimes in the future, but there is an increased chance to catch a perpetrator before the second murder.
It's so wonderful the criminals can't get away with nearly as much as they did in the past. Cameras help a great deal too!
Didn't they say she was an identity -protected lip reader? If showing half of someone's face is considered identity protection, I'll be sure not to get interviewed 😅
Seriously! They gave her name, hair, voice and really only left out her eyes and forehead. Clearly only a criminal genius could figure her out.
You are assuming that the lady who you saw on screen was the lip reader... Police, documentary makers often use actors/models as stand ins for people who have their identity protected, record the interview and get someone else to read the words like a script. Lastly they add the sound and video together later. If it's really the lady they can alter how they look with wigs, prosthetics, makeup, stage props, etc. I doubt they would show any of the real lady lip reader.
Blessings, Dot
For sure, her mouth and teeth were shown along with the jowls.
I liked the building of the puzzle ❤. Very clever 😊!
Metallica did a wonderful thing. They didn’t have to do anything at all and it was so helpful to the case that they kept it in the public’s attention and offered a reward. Encouraging people to come forward worked!
@ 26:31- Absolutely correct. I did exact same. Pawned my rings. I needed diapers for MY baby. I say
'MY' baby cause MY body nurished & protected & carried her for 9+ months.
My ex lied & cheated & stole from us......Good riddance.
im glad you got out of that! i hope you and your girl are doing better now!
How the Chief spoke about Hannah is ABSURD! Victim blaming at it's WORST!!! Specifically saying that he made sure they did NOT blame her for her choices that night...but that she made her OWN choices...but wanted to make sure his team didn't BLAME her?! WTF?! She was 19! And didn't know the area. Just how he said it...insisted on making a point about it?! What a douche!
Apparently I've watched every single American show and documentary because EVERY episode now is British or Australian.
That’s all that has been showing up in my feed for about week or couple weeks now as well.
Which is good. I have watched the same american cases over and over on differend chanels. Great change.
Ditto! I’m even watching Scottish ones! The accent is hard, but, hey, a true crime story is a true crime story.
DUDE SAME!!! Check out Disturban, Little crime shop(something like that), lazy masquerade, the crime atlas, that chapter, coffeehouse crime, explore with us, serial killer documentaries, beyond evil and this is monsters... some of my favorites.
I was thinking the same thing! It is a nice change and I am enjoying the accents.
You guys got me with that click bait. No such thing as Metallica helping with the case. You guys are ruthless
Thanks for the comment, I was scrolling the comments to work out if this was clickbait or not. There was a similar video about how paint had helped solve a murder which involved a woman becoming suspicious about a property where she went to buy paint. That cased surprisingly lived up to the title even though I was expecting it to be clickbait. But this time I was even more sure it was clickbait.
I was gonna ask what metallica did to help.. I did t wanna watch this for an hour and a half
@@justinengland5750It’s around 1:00:00
You are spreading misinformation. Watch it again and pay attention. James Hetfield himself offers a reward.
‘I worked very hard for her decisions not to be questioned’ HER decisions aren’t the problem here. It is HIS decisions, it has always been HIS decisions, HIS actions and HIS responsibility for a woman being graped and unalived. Fuck that noise, you ain’t no hero for upholding her reputation. And that’s the only reason you brought it up. ‘Look at me, I’m the hero for while thinking it in my head I wouldn’t let anyone question her choices’
Well said. That ret. Chief pissed me off
There is a documentary on predators in US universaties and colleges: hunting grounds.
Having watched that, the second stoy, however sad, does not come as a surprise. Shame on those college administrators for lefting him get away with what he did
They should charged as tacit accomplices to every crime he committed.
@@lalaj5831 absolutely agree
Funny how things connect. Click bait or not, this is an interesting story and worth hearing. Just like the band "Soul Asylum" and their song "Runaway Train" helps remind people to never give up on finding someone. 🤟
I really hope jessie Matthew's never gets out of jail
*Matthew
When I hear that a spouse is controlling, a giant red flag pops up for me.
Does it also wave? 😂😂
Both stories could've been told in about a half hour if they'd stop talking in circles and get on with it.
Right. My exact thoughts.
@@musakui Right... I thought at least once the video started over until I looked at the timer to find out they're just repeating it all like a car alarm
Feel free to produce, direct, and upload such a great video! Since you’re an expert.
@@musakuikeyboard expert! Go make that kind of video!
@@AidaShawJ.D.it wouldn't take a fraction of that effort.
If those colleges had reported to police and had his DNA put in the system from the get go, these 2 girls might be alive.
Two beautiful young ladies lost their lives to this cretin. Such a terrible shame. Young ladies make sure you stay with your friends and friends make sure you watch out for your friends.
Im going to have to share this with my husband who is a huge Metallica fan
Same here ❤
I don't see how Metallica helped ❓❓
@@dawnarellano7903 right. James just went on TV to ask for the public's help to find the girl. Unfortunately the murderer will claim another victim before he was caught.
Absolutely no doubt 👍😎
@@eddo1983Yes true! I do believe there was more than that?? Yep terrible !! I see now this monster did claim more lives😡😞I'm to the part we're he was being transported for another charge. Wow !! N ppl from his town were fooled by him!! Oh man!!!!
Didn’t realize 2nd case was actually a cold case. The fact this guy had a scholarship & couldn’t follow it through (so proud standing by a yellow cab, 🙄) & accused of rape & twice ‘said’ it was consensual & not charged, let him go on with the only interest this huge loser pos had, overpowering young women & killing them. He, of course, should be in prison for good or on death row, but also whoever let him slip through his first crimes should be held responsible also. Hope Hannah’s & Morgan’s family found peace & Hannah & Morgan rest in heavenly peace & love. 🙏❤️✝️
I never knew this about Metallica. Why was this never shown before?
the killer clearly got blasted into infinity by kirk‘s killer guitar playing skills… thats how skilled he is.
The second story, the universities should be charged for not getting the police involved in those rapes.
Mrs Harrington is an amazing advocate for Morgan. She jumped right into action she never whined she spoke the entire time about what Morgan was missing not what she was missing or what she wanted everything was about Morgan she was so wonderful of a mother so strong so dedicated I'm so sorry for this family's lost God bless them.
Who was responsible? The colleges that did not go after him when he started with assaults.
It really bugs me that the psychologist said he didn't know the difference between his sports violence and sexual violence. "All he knows..." Add of he didn't know anything else, like right from wrong.
Why do these colleges get away with sweeping these assaults under the rug?
and there it is... every single crime show has the word 'loving' in it. Every single one.
What?
Huh, interesting. I'd think that that is for a few different reasons: that 1. Partners and family members are more likely to have carried out the crime, 2. Innocent partners or family members are more likely to be interviewed about the crime, and 3. They like to paint the victim as being a very warm and caring person in order to drive home the loss caused by the crime. I hadn't noticed the use of that particular word before, but I'll keep an eye out for it now.
Metallica story doesn't start till 44 in.
Oh TY. let me go see 👍
And then after that it's 20 mins of repeatedly saying the same things over and over.
53:00 We had a case exactly like the Jesse Matthew case at the University of Minnesota in the 1980s: a basketball player raped several women and the university covered for him.
In all honesty, women need to trust in their gut instant and know that if it doesn't feel right then don't do it.
1998- Scotland - A mother named Arlene Fraser went missing when her child hat to be picked up from school and her husband Nat Fraser became a suspect later even though he had an alibi and he was not living in the family home at the time of Arlene’s disappearance. Arlene had seen a solicitor to divorce her husband and Nat was an abuser and had attacked her previously. 18 months passed since Arlene’s disappearance and still no information about the missing woman. It took police four years to prosecute Nat Fraser and two of his accomplices. But it didn’t end there.
Another reason i love metallica
Same
I'm going to see Metallica next year. Twice.
Make sure you yell out this case so they know they’re famous now in true crime YT! 😂😂
Blessings to this family what an incredible investigator
And here's the shame of it.....the police didn't ask these questions for over a year, which left a great hole and cold trail. Shame on the police.
Morgan was so beautiful. God watch over her soul. How sad. She's a ANGEL now.
Wow! Got here early. Can’t wait to check this out
When are colleges and students going to realize that they need to report suspected crimes to the police?!? If they had done so the first time, the rest of the crimes may not have happened!
"It's like having a rampaging bear in the neighborhood" and those women would have chosen the bear.
The way you arrange the puzzle pieces on their faces, it's obvious to me that you figured out the Tell-Tale signs of a murderer.
It is nonsense that he did not know the difference between power on the football field and power over women. Of course he knows.!
This might be nit-picking, but why aren't the victims names anywhere in the title or description? Do the killers names mean more?
The first episode was dragged out and not particularly captivating. However the second episode was better but not very mysterious.
Thank you for telling their stories.
Here we go again…. Someone commits attempted murder, gets charged with assault and then is let out on bail. What could possibly go wrong? 🙄🤬😤!!!
The Laws in the UK, Scotland, Canada, and Australia are quite different than in the US when given a Life Setence? I read about a Murder Case where the guy Served a minimum of 7 years!
Proving Insanity isn't as difficult and when Psychiatrists deem the Patient Sane, they are released back into the public, instead of transferring them into a Prison to serve their Sentence.
This Husband clearly Conspired and Pre-Meditated the Murder of his wife, destroying her corpse and Evidence which additional Charges should have been added to his Original Charges? Not only this, he previously attempted to Murder her by means of strangulation. However, she was able to fight back, filing Charges obtaining a Protective Order and Divorce papers.
This is the most Critical and Dangerous time for a Woman who suffers from DV!
Victims are at the Highest Risk of becoming Murder Victims and need Protection when they press charges, or file for Protective Orders, or Divorce?
His Cowardly Accomplices actually got away with Being Charged and Prison Sentences! Shame on Prosecutors!
These Cowards committed Murder and Conspiracy to Commit Murder!
I wonder if they're Father's? If they have Daughters? If they close their eyes at night before going to sleep and don't hear her screams to live? Ihope they'll never stop hearing her begging for her life?
"Please! I never hurt You? Why are you doing this to me? Please don't kill me? I'll do anything you want? Just let me go home to my babies"?
How can they live with themselves?
Maybe one night it will be too much if ever one of them grows a conscience?
Can the Prosecution?
Sounds to me like Detectives simply didn't look at the most likely suspect initially. Until you eliminate the most likely suspects first, you will overlook the real answer.
He knew the difference. He just didn't care. Because he is inadequate in every way. He couldn't charm a woman with humor, wit, money, intelligence or woo them with Good looks. Like a dog stealing crumbs from the carpet under children, was his only way of acquiring anything of value.
Condolences may hope love joy prevail a be balm for family and community of these horrific deaths
Escalating always seems inevitable, unfortunately.
A life sentence is not a life sentence if you get to serve a minimum, with the potential of release for 'good behavior'.
Interesting, i guess Scotland has no double jeopardy law on the books (in America you can't be tried twice for the same crime)
You can't be tried twice if you have been found innocent in the first trial. Many convicted people are let out of jail on technicalities, have their convictions overturned, and are retried by the prosecutors.
The way I understood it, was that the Crown appealed the decision at the high court in London.
The heading is misleading, metallica done almost zero, offered a reward is all, which would not of even been claimed, just PR. They had no participation in any of the unfolding events.
Mr. Harrington: I'm sorry for your loss, I would have helped if I could.
I hope the title isn't click bait. It sounds so interesting.
All Countrys need much more HD Cameras in the Houses on each Corner of a Building Etc Etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Condolences may all be brought to justice Shelli Wiley 1985 still doesn't have a conviction for her case Laramie WY
"How Metallica Helped To Solve A Murder". How did a $50,000 reward from Metallica help solve the murder? That headline is click bait. It's cool that they offered it and I'm glad the killer will rot in prison. Condolences to the families of the victims.
It says helped, not solved. Did they help? The answer would have to be yes, they keep people thinking about her and they offered money. No critical thinking anymore.
I thought Jessica’s ID was supposed to be protected. Good grief…
I went to school with Jesse or LJ as we knew him...I never thought he would do anything like this.
Very informative.❤
almost 40 years ago a friend of mine unlifed herself and left only a song playing on repeat , Metallica's song Fade to Black , she was being abused by her step father and was pregnant by him and forced to have an abortion and lied to her mother that is was a nother male that did it , she took her life and left that song playing , read the words and understand what she was saying , missing one inside of me .....shes gone and he never was brought to justice
My goodness conviction overturned on a technicality? The justice system is so weird. Also, not this case, but no one should get a plea deal without telling where the victim's body is
Save yourself an hour and a half of your life. There are two stories included in this video. The second story is about 45 minutes in and that’s the story is where Metallica offers a 50k award for information leading to the arrest of the person guilty of murdering a young college student. While I agree that these women deserve a right to have their stories be told, and they deserve to be remembered, using click bait is shallow and not a proper way to go about telling their stories…and no one appreciates it!
What's the purpose of calling it life in prison when it's not life in prison? I've never understood that and I know lawyers who can't explain it
The Fraser case -- this illustrates how irresponsible and mendaciously uncritical the press can be.
Metallica rules for more than their music. lol
Lol they didn’t solve the case. Just offered a reward as most celebrities do.
@@zoeclan2044 never said they did. And its irrelevant to the statement I made. 🙂
Who knew?! I pray for justice for these boys.
1:01:12 Metallica puts up reward money.
47:50 UVA women's lacrosse student-athlete Yeardley Love was also murdered in Charlottesville, VA, by her ex-boyfriend George Huguely in 2010.
Arlene was so pretty. Sure a wonderful Mom & just deserved so so much better than that bag of rotten flesh. Hope her children grew up with love, happiness, empathy & compassion. My dad was an alcoholic but kept his engineering job till we were in last few yrs of HS when Mom divorced him. But my Mom was hardworking & educated, mostly any time he tried to fight with her, if he didn’t run she would whip his but*, she was an ex farm girl, just very strong & quick! We learned from her & none of us girls married an alcoholic or abuser. Rest in heaven’s beauty & love Arlene. 🙏❤️
Fat Albert comment was wild
I wonder how the town acted towards the two who weren’t charged for the death of Arlene?
That's a narcissist.
Chief, many people might have said you got the wrong guy....
Except for all the Bartenders and Waitresses who said he was a creep and unacceptable towards women.
I believe it would help if there're TV programs base on catching unknown killers through methods of testing citizens eg monitor a person behaviours when placed in an opportunitic environments for crime to be committed
An Assault? She would be alive maybe but for the judgement system.
So whoever is at working the front door at that arena turned a young woman who is obviously bleeding from the head away and didn’t have her come in and sit down with staff as they called 9-1-1?!?!?! Gross negligence! That would’ve saved her life. I’d sue them so hard if I was her family. And her friends weren’t real friends. Because if it were me that happened to and was stuck outside and told friends I’d go back to the hotel, my friends would’ve immediately told me to stay right there and they would’ve come straight out there to take me back so I wouldn’t be going alone. And I would’ve done the same for my friends. But none of us would’ve been walking around anywhere by ourselves to begin with so there would’ve been 2 of us out there together at least. Young people are not careful these days. Never go anywhere alone. It isn’t safe.
When you take the oath in court you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So, when you can’t tell the whole truth by answering a question with a yes or no answer turn to the judge and say so. If necessary, remind him/her of the oath. Stand your ground and don’t be intimidated. I’m heartily sick of the court games played by Barristers.
53:05 "I think that he would not have understood the difference between exploiting that prowess on the sports field & exploiting that prowess with women to attack & abuse women". What a surprisingly stupid statement.
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
A song but also a book about a young girls experience with psychosis snd hospital admissions
Written in the 60’s
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