Howto use an alcohol stove, like Trangia, in extreme cold arctic climate
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- Опубликовано: 2 апр 2024
- How to operate an ethanol/alcohol stove in extremely cold temperatures. There are simple tips which will help you a lot to operate an ethanol/alcohol stove in sub-zero climate, down to -40°C.
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Trangia has a Winter Attachment kit or Winter Burner, so one does not need toilet paper tricks. If you do not want to buy the kit/burner, use a tealight type candle under the burner to heat up etanol. I used a tealight with a selfmade handle of soft steel wire, working thru the gas hose hole in the Trangia's "basement". Nice dog!
Hei,
the tealight works not so nice when it is really cold. It burns very slowly, but it is also one solution.
The winter kit works of course but I hardly know anyone who owns it. I find the toiletpaper solution simple, fast, reliable and cheap.
Thanks for what you said about my dog!
Good, clear explanation with no bull. Appreciated, thanks.
Thanks for your feedback! Glad to hear.
👍👍👍 .. good post, with an interesting alternative.
I have filled my Trangia Fuel Bowl with Glass Wool, not too tightly packed and then topped with a tight roll of Carbon Cloth to keep everything in place.
My initial reason was .. Fire! .. the risk thereof in case of an inadvertent knock-over, resulting in burning fuel everywhere. Here in Switzerland, the Authorities have absolutely no sense of humour with those who set fire to their forests .. eye-watering fines being the order of the day 😳😏.
Outcomes? The Fire Risk is greatly reduced and the burn efficiency does not seem to be noticeably negatively affected.
Advantages are that the Burner is much easier to light, especially in sub-zero temperatures and that the pot can be placed onto the Pot Stand immediately (without having to wait for the 'bloom') and not having the flame snuffed out.
I use my Trangia as part of the 'Trangia 28t Mini' Set. The Pot Stand supplied offers quite a bit of 'heat retention' around the Burner and as a matter of course, I place the Stand on a Silicone Heat-Resistant Mat (to protect the underlying surface from heat and also insulate the Burner from Ground Cold when necessary). The Pot Stand, together with the Silicone Mat and a surrounding Windscreen in really adverse conditions, seem to do quite a good job in cold conditions, in maintaining Burner Heat Output Efficiency.
The Toilet Paper. Lighting the Burner with a Match and just leaving the burning match in it, works pretty well .. the Match acting as the 'Wick'.
Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
Hei,
that is a really cool solution! It has a lot of very good points and seems to be very well thought! Thanks for commenting.
@@nomadic-trapper 👍
Am guten alten trangia kann halt nichts kaputt gehen, weshalb er auch im Winter nicht zu verachten ist wenn man länger draußen unterwegs ist
Wasn't aware of this issue. So I really appreciate your video. Thanks a lot.
You're welcome, glad you liked it!
Or just keep your triangia and alcohol insulated in a bit in a bit foam or something else, wooly sock.. this is my goto cooking as it is quiet. Dont have -40 deg celcius here but its small keep it close to you.. bullit proof cooking utensil, just requires a bit of thought at the extreemes. I usually twist up a pice of paper and light that when I have left it out to aclimitise to the local weather conditions.
Very useful thanks I can start a little fire under the trangia in my swis army volcano
You're welcome, I am glad to hear that it helps you!
Great advice (and dog) :)
Thanks!
I use my alcohol stoves in winter (northern WI and MI) only for that first cup of coffee in the morning (so I don't have to leave the cozy environment of hammock) and light a wood fire stove. I sleep with the fuel and stove. Some sort of windscreen is essential (can be just heavy duty aluminum foil), and it should cover as much of the pot as possible to reduce heat loss as you mentioned. If the alcohol stove is your only heat source for melting snow, it's going to take a huge amount of fuel and time to get it done (if at all). Pay attention to the distance from the stove to pot bottom. About 1 inch (2.5cm) seems good. At 2 inches (5cm) the boil time goes way up.
Hei @bluesideup007,
thanks for sharing your experience. I guess with WI and MI you mean Wyoming and Michigan? Then you live in a really nice area.
The first cup of coffee always needs to be available as fast as possible!
@@nomadic-trapper Wisconsin and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, although I have winter camped out west a lot including Wyoming. And you are right about that first cup of joe!
... 😊 dog appears to be very well looked after 👍...
Thanks @k9road!
Old trick, always works
cool dog. is that a German Shepherd? or mix german shepherd? I've got a Dutch Shepherd and curious if she could do well with snow like that. if yours a german shepherd then she's probably fine with that too.
Hei,
yes it is a pure german shepherd, but from the older services lines. She doesn't have any problems with snow but she can't walk on the soft powder snow we have here in winter. She always needs some kind of track.
@@nomadic-trapper right. yea that's officially a different breed: old german shepherd. smart, the 'new' german shepherds are kinda facked with the hips a lot of the times.
OR !! You could stop using antiquated old tech like silly little weak alcohol stoves that were cute in the 1950's but it is 2024 - get with the times. Also - white gas, napatha, or colemen fuel, is all we use in Canada for proper -40 cold weather cooking. No one would waste their time with a useless alcohol stove. They're junk !
As a Canadian you are a Colonizer living on stolen land and, as Justin Castro would say, you have inappropriate views. I am immune from such critique because I use the correct virtue signaling 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈🌈🐖
'Antiquated / Old Tech / Silly and Weak / Useless / Junk'. 🤔 ..
Your opinion, and quite rightly, not shared by a HUGE number of Outdoorsmen (and women 😏) for logical reasons.
It's 2024 and Alcohol Stoves are still cute .. very cute.
I have, and use regularly, a White Gas Stove .. an Optimus 8R Hunter. Bought new in the '80's, it does the job as well now as it did back then.
Not everywhere has -40 below 24/7/365 as you do .. but then, you would know that if you got out of your Grandmother's Basement more often.
😂 fanny
@@Chris-us6pk .. Perhaps check your own heritage and research history before you throw stones from you glass tower.
Virtue Signalling .. judging from the flags you got out of your dirty laundry basket .. figures ..
Hi @casondave,
this video is not about which stove type is the best. There can be a lot of reasons why you use a ethanol stove, even if it is in a lot of cases not the best.
One is for example no Carbonmonoxide when burning.