How to install and activate a motorcycle battery
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- My Street Triple has started to let me down in the starting department - time to swap out the battery for a new one.....but, as usual, it's not as straightforward as it sounds......
Bought a good Bosch battery voltmeter and charger for the price of a new battery at the dealer. Followed your instructions. Works great! Thanks!!!
Great to hear!
Hi, nice to see you doing a proper job, i had the exact same problem & have just taken my battery of charge took six hours to full charge got a reading of 13.46 volts settling to 13.2 volts after an hour . I always take the same steps as you did in your video, as the first initial charge is the most important one. Thanks for taking the time to do your videos they are always of interest & well presented. Cheers Baz.
+bazxl57 Thank you Baz - glad you like the videos and appreciate your positive feedback - all the best - TMF
I had the same problem last year, even after being run, the bike would start to turn over, like yours did on the video, and then... nothing. So I replaced the battery. Went to a local Triumph dealer and got what I thought would be a direct replacement... turns out it was about three times the weight... but that's a different story... but I replaced the battery with a new one and successfully rode through the rest of the season with no known issues. Then, after being on a battery tender all winter, (but took it off to charge another bike a few days prior to trying to start it) went to go for my first spring ride and... same thing! Turned the key, the dash did its thing, heard the fuel pump cycling through the motions... and then, nothing. Wouldn't even turn it over. Charged it again and the bike started right up. Went for a ride, stopped the bike for an hour, went to start it again and nothing. Battery drained again apparently. Was able to bump start it and get home. Two questions: When you replaced the battery, did your problem immediately resolve and stay resolved? And do you have any thoughts on how/why my battery might be draining (short... rectifier/stator issues... or whatever) based on your experience with the bike? (Sorry for the long winded comment)
I've activated two of those Yuasa batteries this week. I've seen a couple videos like yours where people said to let it sit before putting the cap strip on the battery, but that's not what the instructions said. They said fill the battery with acid, seal caps, let sit for 20 - 60 minutes before charging. Hopefully I did it right. So far both batteries have been working great. Having to fill the battery made me nervous at first, but it's pretty simple. I didn't wear gloves and goggles though. Next time I will.
There are older Yuasa factory instructional videos that tell you to do the primary charge with the sealing cap strip sitting loosely above the fill ports (as he does here), then to seal it completely afterward.
A really good and quick clear explanation and demo Thank you
Thank you for watching!
cheers MF. I've not had to activate a battery before so this will be very useful for the future. good to see you switched the charger on and off at the mains too with the battery already connected rather than risk a spark from the battery leads and igniting any fumes as some don't realise just how dangerous this can be. Years ago the wife had a battery blow up on her mondeo when she tried to start it when a cell sparked under load. it ignited the battery fumes, blew the caps off the battery and made a big bang (apparently) but as it was under the bonnet no damage was done, which wouldn't be the same if one went off in your face. Bit doom and gloom as I have a back injury so can't ride at the mo but worth mentioning as I wouldn't want anyone to injure themselves. All the best Ade
+adrianbarrie13 Cheers Ade - As I mentioned I have learned over the years to treat batteries with respect, they can be nasty bits of kit if not treated with caution! Sorry to hear of your back injury, hope it's only temporary???
yes only tempary thanks-I fell down the stairs, brused my back and cracked a rib 3 weeks ago. it's getting better slowly but I don't bounce as well as I used to! hopefully I'll get out on the GS later this week for the first time this year and get some miles on her as she's still not had her 600 mile service, shame on me.....
+adrianbarrie13 What! First time this year!!! ...and I was feeling all sympathetic to start with! ;0)
Thanks for the video. Replacing the battery in my motoguzzi for the first time. Same brand as the one in this video. Also picked up and Oxford optimizer. Having a bike in New York City has been a learning experience for sure but your channel is always there when I need some help. Thanks! G
Brilliant - glad to be of help!
The exact same has happened to my Striple last week. First battery lasted 6 years as I used the bike daily commuting a 50 mile round trip to Exeter six times a week. I fitted a new one a few years ago but never charged it before use 🤦 and now I'm onto my third battery but charged it this time.
There are plenty of batteries that come pre charged from the factory , battery life is less the less you use your bike , you will find guys that use there bikes daily will get longer battery life than people that user there bikes occasionally .
+Simon Fly ....interesting, that would certainly explain the short life on this one - the bike gets ridden on average 30 mins every two weeks I reckon - thanks for stopping by...TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer like your vids BTW.
+Simon Fly Cheers Simon - appreciated....
New to biking and I have my first bike, which I believe the battery has failed. This video really helpful for me. Cheers.
Here in the UK, due to the spate of acid attacks over the last few years, it is now illegal for batteries to be supplied with the acid in a separate pack for the end user to fill themselves.
wait so they now come with the acid all ready filled?
@@Glotalaya Ridiculous how ordinary decent peoples lives are governed by laws because of what a handful of scumbags decide to do with battery acid.
Thank you, this is a great video.I'm just about to replace my street twin battery and very glad I found this.......only hope I can remember which side my heated jacket wire goes, I'm sure I taped both sides of wires separately.
Just to add, I didnt realise that my new battery would get quite as warm as it did :-/
Great video and beautifully presented.
I have say that I am growing suspiciously more cynical as I grow older. One of the things I am cynical about is lead/acid battery technology today. When I was a young man it was common to have one battery last for almost the full lifetime of the bike. If you owned the machine -- bike or car -- for twenty years you might expect to have to change the battery twice. today you would have to buy four or more batteries in that time. Something smells very dodgy in the battery making industry and I think it is the growing trend towards in built obsolescence. The only alternative idea I can think of is the growing number of accessories today is killing batteries at a faster rate.
+InTheNameOfJustice ...or maybe that we increasingly use bikes as a leisure activity rather than for daily transport (that's the case for me) and hence the bikes don't get ridden as much or as regularly to keep the batteries in tip top condition. In reality I suspect it's "all of the above". Thanks for sticking with me and for the kind words as ever - cheers for now - TMF
Cheers mate, I opened the box and was like wtf, definitely not like changing a car battery lol
Very topical for me, just replaced the battery on my CBF, why do they always let you down at 5am when you're late for work !!
+adey kitch That's a bummer!
Convenient battery lovation.. mine is virtuality welded into the frame.. I always use a trickle charger, so I'll hopefully never have to replace it.
Mine's wedged in tight too, I needed an extra pair of hands to get it out :-( hopefully the new one will drop straight in ,,,,fingers crossed.
Thanks for the lesson, great job.
No worries!
Hey great video. Thanks a lot. My street triple R battery just went dead and I'm going to get it replaced with confidence now.
Go for it Yula - it's not difficult and saves you a few bob if you DIY.....
Great video very helpful just purchasing new battery now..thankyou
Perfect cheers TMF! Had my new one on charge for a while, going to install it now! Roll on Spring & Summer!
+Mrbikertomtom Glad to be of help - and fully agree!
+TheMissendenFlyer Started on the button with my new one in - wasn't started since September! Not long now, cheers!
Thank you mate had trouble figureing this out and was wondering why I kept getting electricuted haha
No problem 👍
Update : The battery absolutely ROCKS.
14:18 So satisfying after a job finishing the job. Another great video TMF, as always
+hondannyboy ...that is the look of relief! :0) Thanks for your kind words as ever and good to hear from you again...it's been a while!
when apply coating to the battery posts do the connections first otherwise the DE grease will prevent best of connection between battery and cables.
Yes good point!
Hello, I have a Noco Genius battery maintainer (trickle charger). Is using that OK for the initial charge? Thx (Speed Triple owner)
I'm not familiar with it but don't see why not!
A good, simple, instructive video clip.
Did you charge the new battery with a trickle charger (maintainer / regenerate battery) or a usual charger for this type of battery??
I think with the trickle charger I have for this type of battery, it would also work, I would just spend a little more time recharging it.
Would the ecu reset it self on a motorcycle, as it does on a car?
+Peter Hogg I honestly don't know Peter - the clock certainly does!! Time to RTFM....
There's normally a small plastic bag that comes with the battery containing new nuts and bolts, also there's a hand tack in there that's for piercing the top of the acid bottles when you fill the battery up, this allows the acid to escape into the battery quicker. Better still go for gel....lot less faff.
Excellent and very helpful thanks
Glad it was helpful!
is that disconnection/connection order a standard worldwide? (disconnect negative first, then positive) (connect positive first, then negative)?? I heard its different in the USA, can anyone confirm that, I'm afraid of doing something wrong.. Thank you!
The idea being if you touch the +ve terminal and accidentally touch (say) the frame with your screwdriver with the negative still connected you will short the system, disconnecting the negative first ensures you don't have that risk - ditto the other way around......so will be the same regardless what country you're in!
I was using this for my AGM battery, it said it was full, yet my bikes not starting. Another meter I used said it's only got 0.5v. Could it be a faulty charger I received?
Possibly....
Could be your bike
Great video mate, really jealous of your workshop/garage as well :)
Thanks Craig - appreciate the kind comment :0)
Nice video TMF. I had my stator and r/r go on my CB400. I initially thought it was a flat battery but after a jump start it died about 30 seconds into running it..
+Jay Tee ....Oops...perhaps I should have run her for longer just to make sure :0) !!!! I'll find out soon enough....
I had to change the battery on my streety back in September last year. I got the same Yuasa and after putting in the acid I just put it in my bike and went for a four hour ride. Worked very well.
I got mine off of the local Triumph dealer and they actually kept the old one. Not sure how battery replacements are handled in the UK but in Germany you actually have to put down a deposit (which in my case was cleared with the old battery) so you do not just throw away the old one. This way they can ensure that the old battery is properly disposed of.
Nevertheless nicely explainedand nice change of camera positions there!
+lookert Thanks lookert - glad you noticed the camera angle changes, bit of an experiment that! I've charged the old battery up and will keep it in case I ever need to jump start another bike off it....assuming it holds its charge (I shall be monitoring that too out of interest....)
Forget to mention it all getting a bit snazzy with the multiple camera angles. Nice work TMF.
+DervMan Thank you for that - I'm glad you noticed :0)
Cute method of filling. Like it.
hey mate I just put acid in and charged it did not sit then I stopped the charge and let it sit till it was not fizzing.do u think it will work and my quad is suppose to take a 5a one but mine is only 4a let Me know
....I'm no expert but if the quad requires a 5amp battery then that is what it needs, I wouldn't put in a 4amp and expect it to cope personally (regardless of the state of charge)....sorry about that....
One thing I would have done is to pop the multimeter across the battery while the bike is ticking over should read about 14v just to make sure it's charging in the bike. Another Very nice video though.
+Russell Wilson Good one Russ I should have done that, as you saw my multimeter is getting a little long in the tooth and I'm not sure my eyes are good enough to read the difference between 12 and 14v off it!!!!
+TheMissendenFlyer get yourself a new multi meter. Argos-£6. Man of your means should be able to cover that. Better on the eyes.
I bought a Yusa battery and more recently a Bosch one and both had the acid seperate as you had. Halford £56.00. I didn't have the patients for mail order.
Great work. Informative and professional as ever Chap.
+footprint studio Thanks for the kind comments - that multi-meter has sentimental value for me! :0)
That YUASA 6 bottle pack is very neat! The last battery that I filled involved filling each cell individually to the correct level....very tedious.
+Nick Laskaris Yeah, if you have to fill the battery then this is certainly a very easy way to do it - well done Yuasa!
Here in the states, every motorcycle battery I have ever purchased (no matter where) came dry charged and had the acid "pack" with it...No "core" charge to make sure you take the old one back...but we do have shops that have battery disposal bins...
+Sam Rowland Fair enough.....
Great video and lovely put together!
+Tiger Jim Thanks as ever Jim- appreciate your kind feedback...
First time seeing acid being added as all I've purchased had the acid added prior to pickup. Avoided Yuasa this last time around due to short life and poor reviews and am trying a Batteries Plus equivalent with slightly more CCA. The bike is going into consignment shortly when I pick up my new Trophy SE next week.
+Stardust Dream Factory Exciting times waiting for a new bike - enjoy!
The last battery i bought was "factory activated" and isn't worth beans. Won't turn over my V-star at "full charge". It tries but it fails. I found one of these Yuasa's online and I am going to use one of those instead. At least I'll know it's truly a new and fresh battery.
Did you charge the battery on 6 volts or 12 volts mode ?
12
Have a feeling the battery on my Speed triple is finished....Wondered what your thoughts were regarding a lithium battery and why you chose to stick with the original spec?
+Carl Barry Lithium battery is probably the way to go due weight saving but they are a bit more expensive and I was just being lazy because I couldn't be bothered to work out which lithium would fit in the battery housing....
+fredaroony ...indeed!
What made you go for the add acid variety over the gel version?
+GTs Garage I was too lazy to do any research and just went for a like for like swap.....
+GTs Garage I was too lazy to do any research and just went for a like for like swap.....
I'd have like to see a bit more safety. As he says, Bttery acid is very nasty, so a) I'd have done the whole think on some sort of tray and b) disposing of the acid bottle - i'd have either double wrapped it or rinsed it out before dumping in the bin.
Otherwise, a very handy Video.
Another well informed video, is there much difference in price than getting from a bike shop or specialised battery outlet?
+Peter Gunton Thanks Peter - I really don't know, I just went to Amazon.....
I just swapped my Yuasa battery with a Motobatt one for my FZ1, they come pre charged and ready to go, I do think Yuasa is probably more reliable though!
+Bikers Quest Well my OEM Yuasa has lasted me 3 and a half years - is that good for a battery??
That's about normal maybe a touch early IIRC but Yuasa batteries can last up to around 8 that's assuming it hasn't been run down :D but 5 is around the norm
+Bikers Quest Thanks....
Much appreciated, thank you for the video.
You’re welcome!
Did that stop the problem I brought a second hand street triple in the summer but now its winter the battery has dyed twice in a week it will charge but just wont stay charged for more than 2 days thankyou for the vids
Yep fixed it for me!
Hi TMF, enjoying your videos, quick question,why did you go for a lead acid battery and not a gel like a motobatt? as it looked like a hell of a faff with the electrolytes pack?
all the best
+Andy sargeant To be brutally honest I didn't realise you had to put the acid in yourself otherwise I probably would have done! Gave me something else to post on You Tube though :0)
+TheMissendenFlyer
not a criticism just wondering,
+Andy sargeant No worries...
Mine's a seat off, side panel off, battery box cover off, slide out under the frame jobby. I've used a variety of battery makes and types over the years, but have settled on the sealed gel type. They seem to last longer and charge stronger, but against that when they finally fail, they fail immediately.
+Len Scapoff How long do you normally get out of a battery Len?? I'm surprised this one has given up the ghost so quickly (3 and a half years ish).....
+TheMissendenFlyer 3-4 years, so your experience may not be untypical. That said, I haven't always been as meticulous with trickle charging during winter as I am now. I'm on 4 years and counting with the gel battery.
I had an issue starting the Sprint last weekend, despite being on an optimate 24/7. Just had a new Motobatt delivered so will be swapping over soon. I suspect getting the battery in and out will be a bit harder though, let alone getting the seat back on!
+Bucks Biker Yeah it's funny how a seemingly good battery can just give up the ghost with no warning......so is the battery located somewhere tough on the Sprint??
+TheMissendenFlyer Must be the cold up here on the hill. It's under the seat but not a clear route out without lifting the tank. Saying that it just started ok, I'll stick the new one in anyway.
+Bucks Biker What a pain, they don't always make these things with maintenance in mind do they....
your bike doesn't look old enough for a new battery?
+Peter Hogg That's what I thought too (I bought it new in 2012)....
Did you use a desulphating charger? I think if you buy them at a shop they put the acid in for you.
+Boodieman72 I use an Oxford "Oximiser" which I believe is one of those desulphating jobbies - it works some magic and knows when a battery is knackered, etc....clever stuff!
I use a BatteryMinder unit on my bike. www.batteryminders.com/12-volt-maintenance-charger-desfulator-1500 Not sure if the Lithium batteries need a different charger.
I so need to have warm enough weather to get my bike out.
The biggest annoyance for me was losing the trip meter, as the bike always defaults to it instead of the odometer (which briefly displays on power on, when I'm not looking).
+Decided to Ride Yeah it's a pain isn't it.....
Thank you for such a great video.
I tried changing my battery today after watching your video, but I noticed that the red cable (positive) on my motorbike is connected to the negative terminal of the battery?? Shall I do the same new battery then? This is super weird but how is that possible?
I have a 2015 Street Triple R.
Don't like the sound of that!
nice detailed work thank you
Thank you for watching!
Hi! Nice Video. Request for some assistance.
I was checking the voltage reading of my motorcycle battery with voltmeter and it showed 12.3V (i last rode my bike 1 week ago couple of times for barely 3 kms each at night with headlights on). When i switched on the Lo Beam of headlight, the voltage reduced to 12.2V and when both Hi and low beam were on, it dropped 12.0 to 11.9 volts. when headlights switched off it went back to 12.3V. However, when i tried to turn on my bike, it did not start(Voltage dropped to 11.8 V). Then i had to trickle charge the battery using battery tender junior(0.75 A) till 12.8 V to 12.9 V and then the bike started. At idling, the voltage is around 13.4V and increases when throttling.
Mine is a 650cc bike with 12V 12aH battery. Lights are H1 Hi 55W and H3 Lo 55W.
is it normal? Please reply.
Yep - sounds pretty normal to me....in my experience motorcycle batteries are a bit marginal at the best of times...I have to charge my Panigale if I leave it for more than a week without riding.....thanks for watching - TMF
Thanks for your reply.
Whenever i charge my battery with the trickle charger(12V 0.75 amps) it never gets hot whereas after running the motorcycle for few hours, the battery is found to be hot (although heat level is tolerable). Is this heat transferred through engine or the charging current flowing through battery is more(fast charging)?? I think max voltage checked when bike running is 14.4V or may be a bit more. Once i had given my motorcycle battery to the local battery shop for charging as i had not purchased the charger then. After 2 hours, when i collected the battery, the battery was hot (heat level similar to when the battery is being charged when bike is running)
Sorry for the trouble.
Regards
Hi TMF, another very informative video. Thanks for posting.
PS: What's happened to the tan seat?
+SBKPete Cheers Pete - it's just been retired to the loft for a bit, no doubt it will make an appearance again in due course :0) Glad you're paying such close attention!!
You can take this down if you wish, but I didn't know of any other way to talk to you....I just heard through a friend of my wifes that you've been having near hurricane winds and rain there in the UK....If so I hope you are doing ok and staying dry...Stay safe my friend....Ride Safe
Thanks for your concern Sam - I've not been in the UK for two weeks (hasn't affected my skiing here in Italy)! Back to the UK tomorrow, hope my house is still standing :0)
TheMissendenFlyer
Nice, a skiing vacation in Italy, our 2 ski resorts here in Arizona just closed for the season. I hope all is well when you get home.
yeaaaah like a BOSS!!!! nice one dude...bizz
I have no idea what you're talking about but thanks anyway! ;0)
TheMissendenFlyer hahaa...just when it fired up after the new battery fitted,..you gave the ol'thumb up and I just thought 'like a BOSS' lol!! had a similar issue with mine just lately as it happens but the battery seams to be holding voltage so im a bit lost right now,..its away to triumph Thursday for ECU read so il have more of an idea come then...cheers man..bizz
+Bizz ...will be interested to hear what they have to say??
I've bought 2 x batteries, they were ready to go on bike and already charged vertex and varta batteries
Yes - that's 'cos the law has changed since I made this video, you can't fill your own now without a permit!
Thanks very much!
Great instructional video TMF
+Peter Andrews Thank you Peter...
I really thought you would have upgraded the battery. You do it with almost everything else. Surely that one will go the same way.
+Glenn Maxfield Oops - I've let myself down...sorry about that!
It's just not you ;)
Good video, thanks
+SuperLaplander You're welcome - glad you liked it :0)
The worst thing in the world for these AGM batteries is to sit around for a long periods because they slowly discharge and then won't charge back up again . They need to be charged and dis-charged frequently . That's why it's better to buy one that hasn't been activated yet because it needs to be put into service right away after being filled .
Thanks Joseph - good advice....
Out of date. Batteries are supplied filled in the UK since July 2018.
If you check this video was uploaded in 2016......so it may be you who is out of date!
i would have built a distribution board just past the bottle so there is only 2 wires to the battery.
Hi MF, new subscriber here.. I had a question and hopefully you see this and answer or one of your subscribers has an answer any thing would help .. but I noticed that you said don't cover the cap completely after you fill it and charge it.. I put the cap on while it does it's thing.. is that why my batteries always die and or burn out my CDI on my moped? Or is the CDI problem a different issue
I don't know but I imagine it's a different issue.......
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the reply.. but for the battery.. cuz I also fill it myself with the acid but I seal the cap after I fill it.. does that cause the batter to short out?
Thank you learnt a off from you
You're welcome.....
What a pain, why can't they just sell a sealed one that's already charged. I have to put acid in the battery of my bike but they have separate wells and I have to find a funnel with a small enough mouth that will fit into the tiny holes and then try to make sure I don't over fill each one: I'll say it again, what a pain!
You can buy ready sealed batteries - I just don't think you can buy them through the internet/post (at least in the UK)....
Another excellent, informative video MF. It'd be interesting to know how much a Triumph or independent dealer would have charged ( no pun intended 😊 ) to replace the battery. I was once quoted £90 to change a battery on my old Honda FireStorm.
+Mark Smith Thanks Mark - and yes, I may have saved myself a few bob....assuming it is the battery that's the problem....time will tell!
+Mark Smith I replaced mine in September last year. Bought it from the local triumph dealer and paid ~55€. However I also had to hand over the old battery for proper disposal.
I do enjoy you videos TMF, although you looked like a made scientist with all that gear on 😱. That's the oldest multimeter I've ever seen, must be older than you 😉
I'm really looking forward to the garage extension video, it won't be long before you need a bigger man cave......
+DervMan I bought that multimeter when I was doing my A levels - a Maplin special - still doing sterling work 20(ish) years on....and with the original battery I might add!!
+TheMissendenFlyer original battery? Surely not!
+DervMan Yep - sure is.....
+fredaroony Yeah, it's one of those things that I seldom need or use, but when I do I always think I must get it replaced!!
Maybe use some electrical tape next time ;)
+aaron0288 Yeah, the irony is I looked at my roll of that and thought I'd use the duck tape instead as I had more of it....anyway, no harm done!
New battery is to be charged
great video thanks
Thanks for watching....