My first record (LP) of Dvorak's 9th was with Kletsky / Czech Phil on Supraphon. I was a teenager and the music mesmerised me! Not much later, I discovered a copy of the DGG LP of Fricsay /Berlin Phil and went out on a limb & purchased that too. It was the first time I had the luxury of owning two LPs of the same piece (and the last for many years thereafter!).
Wow, a great interpretation, indeed! I've never heard the third, concluding theme of the first movement being played so beautifully expressive by the flute. And it's just a detail of many other great things done in a way no other conductor had done them before. The play with the tempi all over the entire Symphony is also amazing!
In the UK and last week found this cd still shrinkwrapped for one pound at a charity shop in a little town west of London. Decided to take a punt on it and am so glad I did. Now today I find this review. Life is good.
It defies statistics and nature to consider how many Hungarian Jews became great orchestra conductors. For a clear lesson in how a conductor imparts his vision to an orchestra in rehearsal, RUclips now has a sub-titled Fricsay-rehearsing-Moldau post. It's an hour long and it's riveting; detailed, demanding, clear, and affectionate. Don't miss it, especially if you think conductors are interchangeable.
I appreciate this recommendation very much. Sumptuously played, supremely lyrical, and Fricsay brings out inner voices and layers very effectively. It would not be a personal choice for my collection because it just has too much rubato for my tastes. But that is a subjective thing; if a conductor is to do that much rubato, it is smartly done here. That is what I appreciate about this channel. Dave is a good critic because he can find virtue in a wide variety of approaches and works, and makes for interesting listening even when it doesn't perfectly fit my style.
Oooh, Yes. I really liked this one. Way better than the Kondrashin (decca) imo. There is a beautiful build up of the tension first part. Instruments like the flute are not rushed but can clearly articulate themselves. And the brass section is Marvelous, clear and long when needed. Also, these instruments and the violins etc. really play with (and against) Each other, instead of each just playing their part. This is my First reaction on this Channel, so thanks for all the music recommandations mr. Hurwitz!
Wow! These are superb recordings and interpretations! Hadn’t heard them before. I’m hooked after listening to excerpts on my phone. The CD is going on my Christmas wishlist. Thanks for the recommendation Dave!
Thanks! I'm looking forward to listening to this one. Oddly, when I went to Amazon music to stream the Fricsay version (which it listed) the version Amazon served was Von Karajan. Hmmm. I guess Amazon thinks "When you've heard one New World Symphony you've heard them all." I'll have to keep trying.
Dave, thank you very much for this tip. Hi res files of this album are available now at very incentive price! I am very interested how the restorarion team from Hamburg approached to stereo recordings of 1959 and 1960.
Fricsay conducted the Verdi requiem with the Israel Philharmonic in I think 1958. When I went to their concerts regularly in the late 80s and early 90s, whenever there was a performance of the Verdi requiem (and there were a good few) the old timers always said "it was wonderful but nowhere near as good as Fricsay".
That's not a question I can answer here. Listen for yourself and compare. If you don't hear any differences that elicit a clear preference, then simply enjoy what you enjoy.
I wouldn't want to know this if I didn't respect your conviction and knowledge, in other words i'm not trying to start a dispute like we had before, but I was wondering what you think of Idil biret's Chopin recordings. Someone called them "idiomatic" in a good way and I agreed with that but I was wondering if you rated them at all highly. By the way about the Ashkenazy thing. He was my favourite performer of Beethoven for a long time so I get why I would be in the minority as to my last point.
@@alanmcginn4796 I lost quite a lot of stuff when I moved and some of it was her older recordings of chopin on CD, the sort you might find in charity shops if you're very lucky but I don't know if I'll be able to get it on amazon or anything. Not that I don't want to hear her newer stuff but sometimes you want to hear what you remember specifically and miss. I'll have a look online though you never know the same ones might be there. Newer editions of the same recordings maybe.
Not sure, but I should check it out. Cut my teeth on the Toscanini and could never, thereafter, tolerate any recording WITH repeats. To my ears the appearance of that repeat disrupts a natural organic flow of the entire work. Wish Dave would comment on the ratio of repeats over non-repeats recordings and, to the extent possible, gauge the preferences of audiences to this question.
To be frank, I don't much care about repeats if the performance is otherwise superb. In this particular work, I think it should be observed because (a) the movement is pretty short, and (b) at this point in his career Dvorak usually left them out (as in Syms. 7 & 8 and his instructions regarding the repeat in the first movement of No. 6--which I also like BTW with the repeat). So if he put a repeat in, he must have meant that it be heard. However, if the performance is as great as this one, it's irrelevant to me. I see no reason why we should miss out on flaming greatness because of that issue.
My first record (LP) of Dvorak's 9th was with Kletsky / Czech Phil on Supraphon. I was a teenager and the music mesmerised me! Not much later, I discovered a copy of the DGG LP of Fricsay /Berlin Phil and went out on a limb & purchased that too. It was the first time I had the luxury of owning two LPs of the same piece (and the last for many years thereafter!).
Wow, a great interpretation, indeed! I've never heard the third, concluding theme of the first movement being played so beautifully expressive by the flute. And it's just a detail of many other great things done in a way no other conductor had done them before. The play with the tempi all over the entire Symphony is also amazing!
Thank you 🙏🏼 for this recommendation. 🎉💎
In the UK and last week found this cd still shrinkwrapped for one pound at a charity shop in a little town west of London. Decided to take a punt on it and am so glad I did. Now today I find this review. Life is good.
It defies statistics and nature to consider how many Hungarian Jews became great orchestra conductors. For a clear lesson in how a conductor imparts his vision to an orchestra in rehearsal, RUclips now has a sub-titled Fricsay-rehearsing-Moldau post. It's an hour long and it's riveting; detailed, demanding, clear, and affectionate. Don't miss it, especially if you think conductors are interchangeable.
Thank you, Dave! I’ve been listening to the Fricsay recordings on Apple classical and they’re phenomenal. Most recently, Scheherazade blew me away.
His Beethoven 9 is exquisite as well.
Dave has like 7 videos talking about that recording, you should check them out!
I bought this a couple of months ago and it's fantastic. I'm a newbie without much to compare it to but it's definitely a favorite among my 35-40 cds.
I asked about this one on the very first video of this series. Thank you for bringing back this amazing recording one more time, Dave!
Take care
I appreciate this recommendation very much. Sumptuously played, supremely lyrical, and Fricsay brings out inner voices and layers very effectively. It would not be a personal choice for my collection because it just has too much rubato for my tastes. But that is a subjective thing; if a conductor is to do that much rubato, it is smartly done here. That is what I appreciate about this channel. Dave is a good critic because he can find virtue in a wide variety of approaches and works, and makes for interesting listening even when it doesn't perfectly fit my style.
I fully agree, a miraculous New World. One of my two must-have 9th‘s, together with Solti‘s energetic and passionate version.
His Beethoven 9 from 1958 is also one of the greatest interpretations yet, also by the same orchestra
Your enthusiasm is fun, infectious and profound all at once. I look forward to all of these videos.
Glad you like them! Thank you.
Oooh, Yes. I really liked this one. Way better than the Kondrashin (decca) imo. There is a beautiful build up of the tension first part. Instruments like the flute are not rushed but can clearly articulate themselves. And the brass section is Marvelous, clear and long when needed. Also, these instruments and the violins etc. really play with (and against) Each other, instead of each just playing their part.
This is my First reaction on this Channel, so thanks for all the music recommandations mr. Hurwitz!
My pleasure! I'm glad you enjoyed the performance.
Wow! These are superb recordings and interpretations! Hadn’t heard them before. I’m hooked after listening to excerpts on my phone. The CD is going on my Christmas wishlist. Thanks for the recommendation Dave!
My pleasure! Glad you like them. Happy Holidays!
Ferenc Fricsay freakishly fabulous yeah
Thanks! I'm looking forward to listening to this one. Oddly, when I went to Amazon music to stream the Fricsay version (which it listed) the version Amazon served was Von Karajan. Hmmm. I guess Amazon thinks "When you've heard one New World Symphony you've heard them all." I'll have to keep trying.
No. Just type Dvorak fricsay. It pulls up this disc on the first page.
Frecsay never mailed it in. His cornerstone recording is Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra with the Berlin Radio Symphony from 1957,
Dave, thank you very much for this tip. Hi res files of this album are available now at very incentive price! I am very interested how the restorarion team from Hamburg approached to stereo recordings of 1959 and 1960.
Fricsay conducted the Verdi requiem with the Israel Philharmonic in I think 1958. When I went to their concerts regularly in the late 80s and early 90s, whenever there was a performance of the Verdi requiem (and there were a good few) the old timers always said "it was wonderful but nowhere near as good as Fricsay".
Bought it in 400BC on vinyl. Wore it out. Bought it again on CD. It's starting to look worn out......
I am not asking this petulantly, but out of ignorance and desire to understand better: what makes this better than Karajan w/ Vienna?
That's not a question I can answer here. Listen for yourself and compare. If you don't hear any differences that elicit a clear preference, then simply enjoy what you enjoy.
I wouldn't want to know this if I didn't respect your conviction and knowledge, in other words i'm not trying to start a dispute like we had before, but I was wondering what you think of Idil biret's Chopin recordings. Someone called them "idiomatic" in a good way and I agreed with that but I was wondering if you rated them at all highly. By the way about the Ashkenazy thing. He was my favourite performer of Beethoven for a long time so I get why I would be in the minority as to my last point.
In general, I like her.
@DavesClassicalGuide Cool cool 👍
@@rlawrence9838there is a full idil biret edition which is amazing. 135cds or something. Nuts. About $300. But well worth it.
@@alanmcginn4796 I lost quite a lot of stuff when I moved and some of it was her older recordings of chopin on CD, the sort you might find in charity shops if you're very lucky but I don't know if I'll be able to get it on amazon or anything. Not that I don't want to hear her newer stuff but sometimes you want to hear what you remember specifically and miss. I'll have a look online though you never know the same ones might be there. Newer editions of the same recordings maybe.
Since this is an older recording, I guess the repeat in the first movement isn't observed.
Not sure, but I should check it out. Cut my teeth on the Toscanini and could never, thereafter, tolerate any recording WITH repeats. To my ears the appearance of that repeat disrupts a natural organic flow of the entire work. Wish Dave would comment on the ratio of repeats over non-repeats recordings and, to the extent possible, gauge the preferences of audiences to this question.
@@jerrygennaro7587 GOOD IDEA !!! How about it, Dave ???
To be frank, I don't much care about repeats if the performance is otherwise superb. In this particular work, I think it should be observed because (a) the movement is pretty short, and (b) at this point in his career Dvorak usually left them out (as in Syms. 7 & 8 and his instructions regarding the repeat in the first movement of No. 6--which I also like BTW with the repeat). So if he put a repeat in, he must have meant that it be heard. However, if the performance is as great as this one, it's irrelevant to me. I see no reason why we should miss out on flaming greatness because of that issue.
@@DavesClassicalGuide THANKS DAVE !!!!