Liar. You're a liar and you know it. Tromp is the best ship, it has all the best shells. No other ship has better shells, believe me. It has the best shells and the best speed, you wouldn't believe it. they told me "It's impossible, it's too good!" But it is, folks, it is, and you'll get tired of winning. We're gonna do so much winning, believe me, you're gonna get tired of it. You're gonna say "please, Wargaming, it's too much! We're winning so much with Tromp we can't take it anymore!" But you're gonna keep winning and it's gonna be awesome, and we're gonna build a great torpedo wall, a beautiful wall, with the best torpedoes, and we're gonna make War Thunder pay for it! And we need the wall, because the enemy team isn't sending us their best. They're kill stealers, they're trolls and some, I believe, may be good players. But we can't take them. It's a scam, folks. So we'll build a torpedo wall, the greatest torpedo wall ever.
i love you for this comment. EVERYONE KNOWS TROMP IS THE BEST SHIP, I HEAR THEM SAY OH NO HERE COMES THE BEST DD TROMP, I DONT SAY THAT, THEY SAY THAT OF COURSE.
Maarten Harpertszoon Tromp (also written as Maerten Tromp; 23 April 1598 - 31 July 1653) was a Dutch army general and admiral in the Dutch navy. Son of a ship's captain, Tromp spent much of his childhood at sea, including being captured by pirates and enslaved by Barbary Corsairs. In adult life, he became a renowned ship captain and naval commander, successfully leading Dutch forces fighting for independence in the Eighty Years War, and then against England in the First Anglo-Dutch War, proving an innovative tactician and enabling the newly independent Dutch nation to become a major sea power. He was killed in battle by a sharpshooter from an English ship. Several ships of the Royal Netherlands Navy have carried the name HNLMS Tromp after him and/or his son Cornelis, also a Dutch Admiral of some renown.
When this dev log came out, I was really disappointed that my namesake ship was probably the worst one ever. Now it looks decent, definitely still on the weaker side but worth getting for some coal
A lot of times Wikipedia's using US based sources which often classify ships by how the USA would classify them rather than what the original nation designated them. In the US Tromp almost definitely would have been a destroyer leader and even the description of the intended role is exactly that. I believe that's why many sources label it a destroyer leader without noting that the home nation designated it a cruiser at the time. Calling it a destroyer leader isn't wrong, but it needs to be qualified.
Tromp airstrikes is what made her good. She sacrifice the torps, speed and maneuverability to get the airstrikes and I think it's quite decent. Sure you can't pen bbs but if you land perfectly on their superstructure it will do some damage. Her guns are decent but I would not want do open gunboat too often as Tromp don't have the speed like the French to dodge incoming shells nor she have any heals if you take damage.
At least it seems to be an interesting ship albeit not for any competitive scene. Curious though how they give it great concealment when everything about it is geared for medium to long distance combat
I wouldn't be too hasty about that... Having the ability to force someone out from hiding WITHOUT having to find a Torp Angle is actually insanely useful...
i know this ships is pretty mixed in terms of reviews, but my god i love this thing, the airstrikes having only a 10 second lead time is actually a huge improvement over the cruisers 15
I’m rather new to WoWs (started in May) Halland, Shima, Marceau, Daring & now the Tromp. The Daring is the easiest by far, but the Tromp is the most fun. It’s soooo toxic! You can pretty much perma fire any cruiser/bb that’s within 12k & if you’re really lucky those airstrikes can almost 1-shot a DD. It boosted my average dmg, but then again, i’m still learning the ships & proper positioning. Super excited for the Gallard, the Orage is super fun, just not paying 20k gold on a ship that’s gonna be free in a few days.
Maltese vids is so baiting. Before I was like "no way anyone is buying this trash" . After watching him playing, I am like "let's check our account on coal for a fun ship!!!". I guess many will be like me and suffer from this one when we actually get it. Love your content !
I'm sorry. A destroyer with air strikes is counter to the game I think. We are playing a ship game so it's supposed to be about the guns and in the case of a DD the torps. I never agreed with the airstrike as a gimmick for the Dutch cruisers either. I know how opinions are but this one's mine.
My question would be why not the air strike reload in slot 4? I guess speed over more strike would be the reason. also, I went with RPF instead of FB since I like to be wary of where ships are.
If this thing had a heal I would likely get it next time I had coal, I love Gouden Leeuw and Dutch airstrikes. But big size, poor maneuverability and speed, no smoke, no heal, no saturation, no armour is a rather miserable combination
I've been debating between Tromp and Malta for awhile, and I'll probably use my coal and get Malta now, get this thing later. Seems fun, but I've already got a Ragnar
Hey man, get Malta now and get Tromp when it first comes out. Should be close to getting it with all the free coal they gonna give us during the Christmas Event!
Tromp makes dutch great again! Someday wg might add a DD line in the dutch tech tree of which the DDs have Gron's gun power and Tromp's parachuteless airstrikes lol
Grozovoi and Smaland are quite large, but more importantly, the fact that this goes 35knts, therefore it sure could be considered the same as those, which imo, are quite large, it does not have the manuevering most of the time, those DDs do, and also, something you forgot to consider is, Grozovoi and Smaland both have heals, whilst Grozovoi has smoke.
@@MalteseKnight Sure, but that has nothing to do with how physically big a ship is. Tromp beig the least survivable of those ships mentioned is a simple matter of fact.
I was honestly debating between getting Alvaro de Bazan (which I was saving coal for) and the Tromp b/c I heard good and bad about it (wanted to see for myself) and I had 17k steel saved up for Ragnar, so with 58k coal and nearly all my steel...I got Tromp a couple nights ago and while it took me a while to rack up 17k steel that I was saving for Ragnar...it was a purchase that I don't regret making. While I'm still trying to find my groove in playing Destroyers (I have Shima, Hayate, Elbing, Delny, Regolo, Halland, and Gearing...working on Daring), I picked Tromp up fairly easily...I'm still learning Destroyers (I learn from playing high tiers weirdly) so my best damage with Tromp (so far) is 60k damage. To me, she feels like and plays like a mix between Elbing and Halland (stealthy with large guns and slow torps with good airstrike). I recommend her personally
@@mrz3r085 what do you mean? I've had some good and bad matches with Tromp. She's fun to play and can keep the enemy on fire. Her airstrikes need a buff on their damage imo, but other than that I have no complaints
@@Awood2207 Im just asking if you need help. imo tromp is avg, i bought her too. You need practice and now i got used to it. She is a dot DD, airstrike is against DDs if you can land OP, but the main deal is the fire%chance. Thats why I call her the DOT-DD xD. Last game where i played her, the enemy shikishima got 2x fire every bomb drop and then the slow torps, he sits still, another fload..at the end 2x float + 3 fire :D
38.000+ doubloons for this? lol no! i remember once a tromp tester try to fought me with kleber, i deleted him in 20 seconds, i dont belive is worth even the coal price in my opinion! there are better options! cant wait for the z42 btw and for your cover! hopefully this will be my first steel ship p.s. a dd without smoke and 35.2 knots base speed with so garbage aa is epic fail! aa 59 lol! groningen t9 with smoke still got 81 base aa if i remember correct!
@@EvoraGT430 I never pay for anything to this game or any other game! Whatever I get is for steel or coal or free xp! Giving real money for fake ships make no sense anyway!
I mean they've been doing this, releasing freemium ships for money so whales can buy them first, then the rest of us normal folks can get them for free in a couple of months
"A DD without smoke and 35.2 knots base speed with so garbage aa is epic fail" You just described Smaland and Ragnar. They might be failbotes but gosh are they fun to play. If Tromp is as bad as you claim, I'm going to love this ship.
Why would you get this over the other coal dds? I mean you have marcue and sherman both very strong dds then you have alvarno which is ok I guess but still better this thing doesn't seem special then than the airstrike
@@MalteseKnight I mean iknow people have their tastes but at the end fan you reccomend it over the other coal dds to anyone? I dont think so they are more fun and better but who knows WG might buff it again and this ships needs it from what I have seen so far
@ time 5m50 you say you thought she was a cruiser and hence the weird internal armor. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Tromp_(1937) she was a destroyer and not a cruiser
3x2 Guns and the torps are split. AA doesn’t really mean anything and gun dps is…alrightish. The gimmick is the only strong thing but considering what ships await us (like the Z42) this Tier X DD doesn’t really seem that appealing. It’s also quite big and slow. Without the Airstrike, Tromp would be too underpowered. WG selling with Gimmick again.
@@NeptuniaMorgan In world of warships blitz we got the Groigen with airstrikes but in PC it was without airstrikes and now Tromp comes in and it gets torpedo tubes. Along with no smoke which seems weird like you could give it a heal or smoke because the armor seems to not exist. Also looks pretty good for a destroyer
Clearly this ship is broken as they get. How can anyone justify a ship the size of a destroyer sending entire squadrons of bombers every thirty seconds?
Just wait till the other Tromp class ship[ makes its apearance , its construction was finished in england had a bit more lets say shoot down aircraft capabilites , a 10 gun anit aircraft cruiser /flotilla leader /destroyer . 10 x 10,2 cm Mk XVI* in Mk XIX mountings R.P.C.51 (5 x 2) 4 x 40 mm Vickers Mark 8 ("pompom") (1x4) **** 6 x 20 mm Hispano Suiza ** (6x1) ** replaced by oerlikons **** replaced by bofors . 8 x 40 mm Bofors Mk IV in Mk IV* mounts (4x2) 8 x 20 mm Oerlikon Mk in Mk V twin mounts (4x2). The Tromp was layed down as flotilla leader officially , in reality it was a light cruiser flotilla leaders sound cheap, The armour of the original ships was thicker and had layers of armour than its shown in this layout : Turrets 25 - 12 mm Side belt (amidships) 15 mm Longitudinal bulkheads 20 - 30 mm Main deck 25 mm Lower deck 15 - 25 mm Ammunition lifts 15- 25 mm
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Liar. You're a liar and you know it. Tromp is the best ship, it has all the best shells. No other ship has better shells, believe me. It has the best shells and the best speed, you wouldn't believe it. they told me "It's impossible, it's too good!" But it is, folks, it is, and you'll get tired of winning. We're gonna do so much winning, believe me, you're gonna get tired of it. You're gonna say "please, Wargaming, it's too much! We're winning so much with Tromp we can't take it anymore!" But you're gonna keep winning and it's gonna be awesome, and we're gonna build a great torpedo wall, a beautiful wall, with the best torpedoes, and we're gonna make War Thunder pay for it! And we need the wall, because the enemy team isn't sending us their best. They're kill stealers, they're trolls and some, I believe, may be good players. But we can't take them. It's a scam, folks. So we'll build a torpedo wall, the greatest torpedo wall ever.
i read this in his voice
A proper MAGA destroyer - Make Airstrikes Great Again.
This is epic, particularly the bit about making War Thunder pay for it.
i love you for this comment. EVERYONE KNOWS TROMP IS THE BEST SHIP, I HEAR THEM SAY OH NO HERE COMES THE BEST DD TROMP, I DONT SAY THAT, THEY SAY THAT OF COURSE.
epic!!!!!!
Maarten Harpertszoon Tromp (also written as Maerten Tromp; 23 April 1598 - 31 July 1653) was a Dutch army general and admiral in the Dutch navy.
Son of a ship's captain, Tromp spent much of his childhood at sea, including being captured by pirates and enslaved by Barbary Corsairs. In adult life, he became a renowned ship captain and naval commander, successfully leading Dutch forces fighting for independence in the Eighty Years War, and then against England in the First Anglo-Dutch War, proving an innovative tactician and enabling the newly independent Dutch nation to become a major sea power. He was killed in battle by a sharpshooter from an English ship. Several ships of the Royal Netherlands Navy have carried the name HNLMS Tromp after him and/or his son Cornelis, also a Dutch Admiral of some renown.
Malta, I might have to stop watching your vids because I was certain I would skip this DD and now I think I want it. Thx boss.
Good Luck and Have Fun! Big Fan!
I believe in motor versterkig!! Big fan!
A destroyer leader is bigger than a destroyer and smaller than a cruiser, love your videos malta keep them coming
Your reviews have become more honest over time, excellent review
When this dev log came out, I was really disappointed that my namesake ship was probably the worst one ever. Now it looks decent, definitely still on the weaker side but worth getting for some coal
Indeed, the first dev blog looked miserable, but, this is why we cannot make final reviews on ships from initial dev blogs.
Starting to rely on Malta's reviews more and more! He never let me down yet! (Unlike some other WOWS CCs...) - PS: Big fan, BTW...
A lot of times Wikipedia's using US based sources which often classify ships by how the USA would classify them rather than what the original nation designated them. In the US Tromp almost definitely would have been a destroyer leader and even the description of the intended role is exactly that. I believe that's why many sources label it a destroyer leader without noting that the home nation designated it a cruiser at the time. Calling it a destroyer leader isn't wrong, but it needs to be qualified.
me beying dutch and hearing that sound and think who the hell wil say it like that
Thank you for the suggested build. I took it as a base to start from, works well for me.
Looks good man, thanks for sharing. :)
No problem, Big Fan!
It was planned as flotilla leader, but later (during the war) classification changed to light cruiser due to a political reasons.
Thanks for sharing!
Tromp airstrikes is what made her good. She sacrifice the torps, speed and maneuverability to get the airstrikes and I think it's quite decent. Sure you can't pen bbs but if you land perfectly on their superstructure it will do some damage. Her guns are decent but I would not want do open gunboat too often as Tromp don't have the speed like the French to dodge incoming shells nor she have any heals if you take damage.
this dd and a Gouden Leeuw and a cv in a div could be letal (and against the genva convention), focus a single enemy with constant air strikes
If you have enough luck you could just go triple Dutch and hope the CV in your team works with you.
@@NeptuniaMorgan Just got to wait until WG comes up with some fancy Dutch CVs of some sort...
@@Art-Francois dutch CVs with auto anti-ship airstrike instead of auto asw airstrike
Seems more interesting than Iwami, which was the one I was going to get next.
At least it seems to be an interesting ship albeit not for any competitive scene. Curious though how they give it great concealment when everything about it is geared for medium to long distance combat
I wouldn't be too hasty about that... Having the ability to force someone out from hiding WITHOUT having to find a Torp Angle is actually insanely useful...
i know this ships is pretty mixed in terms of reviews, but my god i love this thing, the airstrikes having only a 10 second lead time is actually a huge improvement over the cruisers 15
I’m rather new to WoWs (started in May)
Halland, Shima, Marceau, Daring & now the Tromp.
The Daring is the easiest by far, but the Tromp is the most fun.
It’s soooo toxic! You can pretty much perma fire any cruiser/bb that’s within 12k & if you’re really lucky those airstrikes can almost 1-shot a DD.
It boosted my average dmg, but then again, i’m still learning the ships & proper positioning.
Super excited for the Gallard, the Orage is super fun, just not paying 20k gold on a ship that’s gonna be free in a few days.
Big Fan. In fact I am the biggest most humblest fan there is.
Maltese vids is so baiting. Before I was like "no way anyone is buying this trash" . After watching him playing, I am like "let's check our account on coal for a fun ship!!!". I guess many will be like me and suffer from this one when we actually get it. Love your content !
Thanks, but I do say in the video, if you're not an experienced player, especially at open water destroyers, it's not the ship for you.
@@MalteseKnight Thanks man! Great you brought out the full potential of the ship
I'm sorry. A destroyer with air strikes is counter to the game I think. We are playing a ship game so it's supposed to be about the guns and in the case of a DD the torps. I never agreed with the airstrike as a gimmick for the Dutch cruisers either. I know how opinions are but this one's mine.
My question would be why not the air strike reload in slot 4? I guess speed over more strike would be the reason. also, I went with RPF instead of FB since I like to be wary of where ships are.
But I think the special thing about Tromp is the Air Strike because it does a lot of damage so you could build on air strikes.
If this thing had a heal I would likely get it next time I had coal, I love Gouden Leeuw and Dutch airstrikes. But big size, poor maneuverability and speed, no smoke, no heal, no saturation, no armour is a rather miserable combination
I've been debating between Tromp and Malta for awhile, and I'll probably use my coal and get Malta now, get this thing later. Seems fun, but I've already got a Ragnar
If you play CVs Malta is a great pickup, she's one of the best t10 CVs while being a lot easier to play then ships like Haku
Hey man, get Malta now and get Tromp when it first comes out. Should be close to getting it with all the free coal they gonna give us during the Christmas Event!
Wat a good start it said after your 1st kill on the Mainz\
having air strikes on a dd with sub 6km detect could be pretty fun. i like that gimmick combo
It REALLY need an Orange Camouflage
Tromp makes dutch great again!
Someday wg might add a DD line in the dutch tech tree of which the DDs have Gron's gun power and Tromp's parachuteless airstrikes lol
Tromp really isnt as large as people think it is. It's side surface area 1004m². It is right between Grozovoi at 1008 m² and Smaland at 1003 m²
Grozovoi and Smaland are quite large, but more importantly, the fact that this goes 35knts, therefore it sure could be considered the same as those, which imo, are quite large, it does not have the manuevering most of the time, those DDs do, and also, something you forgot to consider is, Grozovoi and Smaland both have heals, whilst Grozovoi has smoke.
@@MalteseKnight Sure, but that has nothing to do with how physically big a ship is.
Tromp beig the least survivable of those ships mentioned is a simple matter of fact.
giga lmao! i want similar enemies WG right now!! :)
Lmao
I was honestly debating between getting Alvaro de Bazan (which I was saving coal for) and the Tromp b/c I heard good and bad about it (wanted to see for myself) and I had 17k steel saved up for Ragnar, so with 58k coal and nearly all my steel...I got Tromp a couple nights ago and while it took me a while to rack up 17k steel that I was saving for Ragnar...it was a purchase that I don't regret making. While I'm still trying to find my groove in playing Destroyers (I have Shima, Hayate, Elbing, Delny, Regolo, Halland, and Gearing...working on Daring), I picked Tromp up fairly easily...I'm still learning Destroyers (I learn from playing high tiers weirdly) so my best damage with Tromp (so far) is 60k damage. To me, she feels like and plays like a mix between Elbing and Halland (stealthy with large guns and slow torps with good airstrike). I recommend her personally
Did you need help?
@@mrz3r085 what do you mean? I've had some good and bad matches with Tromp. She's fun to play and can keep the enemy on fire. Her airstrikes need a buff on their damage imo, but other than that I have no complaints
@@Awood2207 Im just asking if you need help. imo tromp is avg, i bought her too. You need practice and now i got used to it. She is a dot DD, airstrike is against DDs if you can land OP, but the main deal is the fire%chance. Thats why I call her the DOT-DD xD. Last game where i played her, the enemy shikishima got 2x fire every bomb drop and then the slow torps, he sits still, another fload..at the end 2x float + 3 fire :D
Pepega :mega: Make DD Mafia GREAT AGAIN!
I look very much forward to showing my randoms wins, because they are yuge
TROMP COVFEFE FAN BTW!!!
also MOTORVERSTERKING FAN BTW
HNLMS Tromp was a large destroyer built in 1937. She saw active service in the Pacific during WO2.
It was a light cruiser actually
Seriously though, 5.9km detect with air drop attack and 150mm guns?. Sherman, Elbing and a few others would like a word with you WG
I never reach that damage with my op Småland
Just call it "The Donald".
Huge Fan btw
Probably a great video, but haven't watched it yet
Motorverzekering!
Indeed!
*motor versterking
@@lightbluewaves5526 thanks! I didn't know if that was actually the correct spelling
@@MrVegio1987 np! Dutch is difficult, and honestly it does almost sound like he is saying motorverzekering haha
Where Bagration?
38.000+ doubloons for this? lol no! i remember once a tromp tester try to fought me with kleber, i deleted him in 20 seconds, i dont belive is worth even the coal price in my opinion! there are better options! cant wait for the z42 btw and for your cover! hopefully this will be my first steel ship
p.s. a dd without smoke and 35.2 knots base speed with so garbage aa is epic fail! aa 59 lol! groningen t9 with smoke still got 81 base aa if i remember correct!
38000 for anything that will be free is absolutely nuts.
@@EvoraGT430 I never pay for anything to this game or any other game! Whatever I get is for steel or coal or free xp! Giving real money for fake ships make no sense anyway!
I mean they've been doing this, releasing freemium ships for money so whales can buy them first, then the rest of us normal folks can get them for free in a couple of months
"A DD without smoke and 35.2 knots base speed with so garbage aa is epic fail"
You just described Smaland and Ragnar. They might be failbotes but gosh are they fun to play. If Tromp is as bad as you claim, I'm going to love this ship.
@@j_taylor Ragnar got 92 AA I don't know the rate of Smaland but she got great AA too! Ragnar is no flying zone at 6.9 km! Do your research
Saving my coal for Brisbane and the discount for FXP is a scam with all the stuff coming to the Research Bureau
Hector is coming to RB, what else?
@@stwright84 All the newly announced Legendary modules.
Lol Brisbane gets nerfed
Why would you get this over the other coal dds? I mean you have marcue and sherman both very strong dds then you have alvarno which is ok I guess but still better this thing doesn't seem special then than the airstrike
I'm not a salesman XD, if u seem interested in the style get it, if not don't
@@MalteseKnight I mean iknow people have their tastes but at the end fan you reccomend it over the other coal dds to anyone? I dont think so they are more fun and better but who knows WG might buff it again and this ships needs it from what I have seen so far
Is Tromp worth 1 million Freexp + 30 million credits? That's more available to me than coal since I still need commanders and F Sherman.
@ time 5m50 you say you thought she was a cruiser and hence the weird internal armor.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Tromp_(1937)
she was a destroyer and not a cruiser
Like and comment for the algorythm and FINALLY TROMP!!!!!!
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38 450 dblns for it ??????? wtf
will be used in clan batttels, against island humpers
no
@@sarpkaplan4449 YES
Nah. Not replacing smaland or kleber
Total overpowered ship, WOWs getting more and more stupid
I don't see it in-game. When is it coming out?
Soonish for cash, but I'd imagine December or January for coal
@@weabootrash5891 Thanks. :)
One day after this video, it's in the game.
Yoooooo 7 kills how broken is Trump??!!!?!!??!????11!?
a gun boat dd with these gun angles? bye bye tromp, my coal is too precious for such a deal
3x6 guns with 2x3 torpedo tubes 2x2 airstrike 33,000 health and halland AA along with good concealment, who the f thought of this it is stupid
3x2 Guns and the torps are split. AA doesn’t really mean anything and gun dps is…alrightish. The gimmick is the only strong thing but considering what ships await us (like the Z42) this Tier X DD doesn’t really seem that appealing. It’s also quite big and slow. Without the Airstrike, Tromp would be too underpowered. WG selling with Gimmick again.
@@NeptuniaMorgan In world of warships blitz we got the Groigen with airstrikes but in PC it was without airstrikes and now Tromp comes in and it gets torpedo tubes. Along with no smoke which seems weird like you could give it a heal or smoke because the armor seems to not exist. Also looks pretty good for a destroyer
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Clearly this ship is broken as they get. How can anyone justify a ship the size of a destroyer sending entire squadrons of bombers every thirty seconds?
Donald J Tromp is finally here :3
HNLMS Tromp (F803) is the second De Zeven Provinciën-class frigate of the Royal Netherlands Navy.
Lol.... all the negatively about the Tromp and look at the damage.
Maybe it's the name?
Just wait till the other Tromp class ship[ makes its apearance , its construction was finished in england had a bit more lets say shoot down aircraft capabilites , a 10 gun anit aircraft cruiser /flotilla leader /destroyer .
10 x 10,2 cm Mk XVI* in Mk XIX mountings R.P.C.51 (5 x 2)
4 x 40 mm Vickers Mark 8 ("pompom") (1x4) ****
6 x 20 mm Hispano Suiza ** (6x1)
** replaced by oerlikons
**** replaced by bofors .
8 x 40 mm Bofors Mk IV in Mk IV* mounts (4x2)
8 x 20 mm Oerlikon Mk in Mk V twin mounts (4x2).
The Tromp was layed down as flotilla leader officially , in reality it was a light cruiser flotilla leaders sound cheap, The armour of the original ships was thicker and had layers of armour than its shown in this layout :
Turrets 25 - 12 mm
Side belt (amidships) 15 mm
Longitudinal bulkheads 20 - 30 mm
Main deck 25 mm
Lower deck 15 - 25 mm
Ammunition lifts 15- 25 mm
Looks way avg.