Jim Cornette Reviews Jon Moxley vs. Lance Archer on AEW Dynamite
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- From Episode 353 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Jericho had a feud w Orange over a jacket. LAX had a feud over a grown man mother's minivan. Now Rusev is about to feud over a video game. Wft is this garbage!? It's criminal how AEW is misusing awesome talent.
Right? And people actually enjoy this shit
That's one downside of their own creative freedom.. aw..
but but but WWE was holding him back! How dare they try to make him a bruising monster! He just wants to have feuds over twitch for fuck sake i cant take lmaoooo literally everyone that left WWE for "greater pastures" became a complete fuckin joke
For all of your crying and bitching... if it was the other way around, the storylines would be MUCH MUCH MORE BLAND & INSUFFERABLE if WWE did them... the creative/writing team is the worst part of the WWE's characters
@@SlicRic81 thats the thing theyre supposed to be better and serious like they promised a year ago ! not step in the comedy world instead be destroying it! who cares who can be the most funny, you say bland and insufferable as if what AEW is any better. WWE creative is awful with bright spots when vince isnt breathing down their necks (examples hurt business and roman reigns). yet you pretend what AEW is worldly entertaining when in truth its embarrassing what professional wrestler with the creative freedom that they posses would engage in the angles like the OP said ? i expected better from AEW theyre just as worse as WWE creatively and in the ring
Bad AEW content creates great Jim Cornett content. I can’t hate on that.
So after months of Lance Archer being irrelevant after losing to Cody for the title they essentially brought him back just so he could job in another title match. Honestly if I'm Lance Archer I would be totally pissed with this company.
But Lance Archer probably thinks he's doing great coz none of these people can objectively look at their own positions. Coz it's AEW, all mishandling can be forgiven, no matter how stupid the booking of this awful show may be.
Archer is the Brawn Strowman of AEW
@@tasvirmahmood3558 he's worse, atleast WWE got Braun over before they ruined him. Lance Archer ain't even gonna get over. And sadly, he knows nothing about presenting himself as a big star and Tony Khan couldn't see a star if he was in space.
I think the AEW mega Fan's arguement is:
BUT MUH LANCE ARCHER AEW DARK SQUASH MATCHES!
@G O T I C A C U L O N A Those illustrious runs as part of the Rock N Rave Connection in TNA and The Gate Crashers in WWE. Dude is in his 40s and probably at this point just wants to work without having to take a 16 hour flight to Japan.
Tony Khan looks at Moxley and sees 2002 Brock Lesnar.
Good one😂😂
Moxley = a sober Sandman
@@jb0609 Sandman had a personality and showed emotion. Look at his feud with Raven where his son was taken away
Whoaaaa then he needs a better prescription for his glasses 2002 Brock was a one of a kind monster
That's dumb. Brock was the best wrestler in the business other than Angle that WWE ever saw.
Lance is a joke now period he's not the monster he was thought out to be he lost 2 title matches thats not a good sign. Karrion on the other hand is a monster taking down a veteran like ciampa, took down another big man like dijakovic, and beat another big man which was Keith Lee and took the NXT title on his second takeover and if he wasn't injured he would've been a dominant monster right now.
I bet archer regrets being in aew at this point and wishes he had a run like karrion.
@Javy 22 Exactly and how they gave Cody back the TNT title proves it
Lance like 50 tho
@@ghosthabanero9229 Jericho's the one thats about to be 50 next month
To Tony Khan/Whoever books this mess of a show, building a monster means "Make him squash 8 jobbers in a row for 2 months on AEW Dark", and after that "Hey, Lance Archer comes from a 8 dominant winstreak, that means he must be an absolute MONSTER! Look at the numbers!"
Monsters usually don't last long as they have to loose sometime and people get tired of them especially if they don't have an endearing character. The WWE standard practice of dealing with monsters is to make them run their course, get beaten regularly by the face and then make them into a tag team which nobody has interest in seeing as we all know it won't last long. Instead they should try a new approach especially with a monster who has potential. First make him have his monster run and loose against the champion. After loosing against the champion he should also loose surprisingly against some young upcomer. Make him go ballistic and have a technical manager come in to offer his service. Make him leave the scene for a little and then return a couple of months later with a new attitude and have him fight with more technical skills. He could just use simple moves like an abdominal stretch, a Boston crab or some other traditional hold , but since he is a monster with extra power he should be more devastating and sell the hold better than smaller technical wrestlers. He could also help later on the new monsters who has just been beaten and then maybe form a new tag team that would be more endearing.
After I watched this match on AEW's RUclips page, I commented similar thoughts about the selling issues in this match. If you don't sell moves in wrestling and don't understand heels and faces, you don't have a wrestling promotion, you have a gymnastics promotion.
Like I said to aew fans,aew fucked up lance archer,brain cage,Ricky starks,and host of other heels.what is the point of watching this shit,if there is no heel then there is no face.
'Lunatic Fringe' was a moniker created specifically because Ambrose was wonky and odd in the ring. His wild in-ring style masked the fact that he was NEVER actually good in the ring.
Makes me think back to his US Championship days in The Shield and how he almost never defended it.
Maybe WWE knew some things about him that the rest didn't know. He was marketable because he can talk and has a character, but he's never been much in the ring.
IMPOSSIBLE! The Reddit told me no one knows anything in wwe.
@@DaywalkerNL94 Well, the writers sure don't. :P But they do still have agents and such.
@@poindexterflex3528 right-right... just give booking to some RedditSlug1992. He did some no-injuries/everythin-works-out/everyone-performs-perfectly FAMTASY BOOKING. Surely it will work irl.
I was never a big dean ambrose fan
No it wasn't. It's the name of a radio station in Cincinnati. And what character did he have that wasn't a ripoff of something other people did better beforehand.
For the uninformed: Moxley once wanted to have a hardcore match at Wrestlemania with Brock Lesnar and use a chainsaw against him. For obvious reasons, that never happened.
And just compare where he is now compared to his former Shield teammates. Roman Reigns is pushed as the top heel on Smackdown and in a feud with his underdog cousin. Seth Rollins literally thinks himself as the second coming of Christ and - while it has been admittedly stretched out and gotten a bit too silly - has had a memorable feud with Rey Mysterio and his son, who already looks like he could be a future champion. And Jon Moxley... is doing pretty much the same stuff he did three years ago but with less people, less pay, less rules, and more probability to get himself hurt.
Dean: So Brock, I want to ddt you on 2 chairs...
Brock: I'm cutting you off
In what way has rollins vs mysterio been memorable its rehashed garbage. Seth hasnt been the same since WWE killed him at hell in a cell 2019. Reigns however has been great since turning heel.
"memorable feud" the eye match was the worst shit wrestling has had this year. Roman is awesome right now. but Seth acts like a whiny bitch
@@pedrow3070 nah Seth hasn't been the same since he started his twitter rants that made fans lose all respect they had for him and then he went heel and started being awkward.
Moxley has said that Brock nixed a lot of stuff, and he definitely didn't sell for Moxley at all. I used to think Lesnar was an asshole for doing that, but knowing what I know now, I think he was smart enough not to let Moxley make a fool out of him. I can only imagine what Moxley was trying to get him to do. He made Moxley look like the jackass that he is.
Has Mox had an actual wrestling match yet since he joined AEW? To me he is the Hardcore champion.
a last minute match against eddie kingston a couple weeks ago. i think that was his first.
The closest one to a wrestling match might be against MJF.
Pac
His match against Jake Hager.
I've said for a while Moxley was overrated🤷♂️ He isn't awful, but he was the weakest member of The Shield by a wide margin and I question AEW to make him the face of the company. They aren't building new stars and Moxley/Cody just slay all the giants. They need to strap the rocket to MJF before people stop caring.
No joke, I don't think Moxley likes wrestling in rings.
Zandig is his god.
You think 😂😂
Ofc not. It exposes how shit of a wrestler he is.
The People I really Feel Bad here For , Truly is Jim Ross and Tony Shiovane, Who Both have been in the Business give or take a combo of 70 plus years between them both, Jim Ross and Shiovone, Seeing the Best the business has to offer from calling Flair vs steamboat matches, to calling Harley Race matches, and Ross and Shiovone both involved on opposite sides during the Monday Night Wars Era where pro wrestling was on FIRE andThriving, Ross calling Stone cold matches and Tony calling Goldberg Matches, Where Pro Wrestling was at its most OVER I MEAN OVER, people who made fun or could careless about pro wrestling, Tuned in Monday Nights just to see what the hype was all about and eventually convert . To go from that to having to Stomach this, just because they are both earning a pay check and staying relevant today, But Deep Down inside I know How EMBARRASSED and ASHAMED Jim Ross must feel having to call hoaxy , comedic , abysmal matches that are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Below his standards and just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Beneath him, And Tony Shiovone being involved in low rent type snl backstage skits , poking fun of him and not taking him seriously as a Legendary Interviewer and play by play guy in the industry. TONY KHAN is like a toddler being allowed to rummage through his Fathers Gun Collection, without supervision , just go in there and if baby happens to find the trigger and pushes, well GOOD LUCK to us all. The Real Victim here besides True Pro Wrestling Fans, and Those who bled, sweated and shed tears for the business, Mr Cornette, Jake Roberts, Taz, are Jim Ross and Tony Shiovone who have to sit through this week in and week out and have to really muster up the strength not to feel like they have let there Reputation in the business be tarnished by Such a BAD COMEDY JOKE of a Promotion, being ran by a Star Trek Comic CON GEEK , who knows nothing about the business let alone run it.
I agree with all of this...and I'm a Star Trek fan. Lol
Absolutely! JR should go back to calling the Undertaker being murdered in a match and his body rising above the arena to heaven, voodoo curses, sex with dead people, giving birth to hands, miscarriage angles and all the other serious and revolutionary angles that he had to call during his time as an announcer in WWE.
@Ben Garcia, I agree with you 1000%, I bet if Gordon Solie or Lance Russell was still alive & working there, they would've walked out of there.
@@murdyrdoll ANYTHING WOULD BE BETTER THAN CALLING AEW MATCHES, I Rather watch the Russo-Ferrera ran WCW 2000 era and watch David Arquette win the World Heavyweight Championship and Judy Bagwell on a pole match than having to stomach, the orange cassidy's, jon moxley, kenny omega and young buck make a mockery of pro wrestling week in and week out. Ed Ferrera Mocking Jim ross bells palsy as oklahoma in wcw is more forgivable than ANY TONY KHAN Booking and that is saying something.
@@bengarcia7805 I guess we'll agree to disagree. JR happily called having sex with dead people angles, incest angels, etc. If a guy wrestling with his hands in his pockets offends you more than necrophilia, incest and making fun of somebody with bells palsy, I'm really not sure what to say to you. I find that really really really REALLY strange, but you do you bro.
AEW can’t find anybody else to lose to Moxley other than Archer and these other guys they should be building up? I mean sheesh Archer and Brian Cage should be kicking ass not losing every big match they have
Yep, the only heel who Moxley don't beat is PAC.
@@Mondragora99 yes sir
@zed365 There is NO "heavyweight division" lmao
@Joey Pastrana Moxely is a Heavyweight, he is 234 and 6'4. Cody is a Heavyweight as well, he is 6'1 and 220. Not everyone has to be 6'8 and 350 to be a Heavyweight.
@Joey Pastrana Those guys are super-Heavyweights, I was going off the UFC's definition of a Heavyweight. 207 and above. If you watch UFC then you would know that the best Heavyweight are guys like Cain and Stipe who are 230-245. The huge guys like Brock and Francis Ngannou gas after one round. So it's actually more realistic that someone like Moxley would be champ instead of guys like Cage and Archer.
“Lance Archer vs Stone Cold Jon Moxley.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Referring to Gorilla Mansoon. "He'd walk around with ten-thousand dollars in his pocket. Because he might want to buy something, and no one was gonna fuckin' take it from him." A perfect summary of the man.
I was too young to see Monsoon but when I see him in pictures and old videos all I think is "God that's a monster of a man"
@@jedediahcoulbourne1791 exactly! If I had a bat and a free shot" I'd put the bat down, apologies and attempt to walk away.
❤ Monsoon!!
@@btipton6899 I could only imagine what a younger Gorilla would have done to the Brooklyn Brawler.
I'll give you a test, commenters of RUclips.
Find a person that knows nothing about wrestling, get them to watch the match from like, 30 seconds in (no belt in the ring, no finisher burial).
Mute the audio so there's no spoilers. Get them to watch at least 5 minutes then ask them "who do you think is the world champion here"?
I bet you quite a few will tell you it's Archer.
Agreed 100% brother. Archer is a star. Have Jake Roberts by his side you have the promo. Absolutely unstoppable and just a wrecking wrestling machine!!!!!
"Ian Rotten should have done a run in". Jesus Jim don't give them that idea 🤣
Even in the indy outlaw deathmatch promotion circle, Ian Rotten's reputation is down in the shits after making one of his guys OD on pain pills, so I wouldnt worry about that.
Lance archer probably a real cool dude. And him trying to be mean and scary just ain't working. Looks like hes trying too hard. Mabey he should go baby face and be a bad ass good guy.
The faces he makes lol
Cody fucked up his push he should have never pinned Lance and then they have Lance wrestle jobbers.
@@antoniocamargo6580 I know hahaha
Amen. He tries way too hard. The stupid catchphrase, the overt acting aggressive nonsense. The booker should be in his ear telling him to be goddamn subtle. But the booker is Tony Khan so, really, we can't expect anything from him.
yeah... the first shit you read when you go to his twitter : "christian wrestler" . lol
“I pushed them as hard as I could straight out the door into a waiting cab” lmao
"Ian Rotten should have done a run in" - Jim Cornette
Imagine my shock when I tuned in late to the show and Moxley is having yet another hardcore brawl of a match. How is this man a submission shooter but also a ultra violence wrestler? FFS.
Submissions? His only move is the ddt that he does to death
@@jesusleyva4386 He does that bulldog choke and had the mUrDeR hAwK mOnStEr in some other hold during the match and Xzibit said something about how he’s a submission artist.
@@Mister_Phafanapolis no. Minoru Suzuki is a submission shooter.
"We were promised Sports based wrestling." -Corny
I grudge watch too.
I stopped after Stadium Stampede 1. Im so sorry for Page and MJF but at the same time relieved that theyre making some money and getting some experience out of aew until the unavoidable demise of the promotion.
Sammy, Perry, Darby and Hobbs are luckier tho. Or maybe even more fucked. Who knows
Spot on again Jim.
Cosplaying is killing the business.
Wrestling has been cosplay for 10 years out of 100. 85-95, that was the cartoon cosplay wrestling era, that's it.
Most wrestlers were just projecting their true selves in an eccentric fashion.
All you have to do is watch some old school Flair or Vader matches, NWA/WCW of the late 80s and some Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels matches and you will see the absolute difference in craftsmanship.
Cosplay has existed since Mantaur, Glacier, Bastion Booger, Oz, Red Rooster, and Goldust. Where have you been?
@@eastwaters4082 that’s some bullshit aswell.
Only exception would be Goldust. They should of carried on Goldust from 96 and amped it right up and made him creepy as hell. That could of been his heel character and when he’s face he could of just been Dustin Rhodes.
Jon Moxley is not a Stone Cold cosplay
👉 Becky Lynch is a Stone Cold cosplay
But becky Lynch comes off as a female badass and jon moxley comes as a homeless man
Both are trash, Stone Cold is the only person who could do this gimmick correctly
@jigyoda that’s the issue, nobody nowadays has charisma
That kinda bothers me... for all the talks about women's wrestling 9/10 they (bookers) reuse old storylines made for guys and you can clearly see who's cosplaying who. That's why I like Bliss the most out of WWE women. She might not be the best but she reminds me of a real girl I knew and not a male wrestler from the 90s.
Beckys promos are beyond forced.
Imagine a promotion debuting their versions of Money in the Bank and the Royal Rumble within their first year of television and not only giving away those title matches on free TV but both of those winners lose their title matches to the same champion.
Haha agree. How could people be so hyped for the next Casino Ladder match and Casino Battle Royal when their previous winners cant win the big one
I will speak up for the NXT die-hard fans here - I genuinely see it as the highlight of my week from a TV standpoint. Being from the UK, I don't watch live but I catch the recording Thursday mornings.
Jim is right in a sense imo. Not everything on NXT is stellar. But because when they get it right, they get it so right, I can stomach the weaker stuff. Especially since I know it almost certainly won't be insulting to my intelligence.
I can't even watch AEW anymore, the stadium was the last straw. So I'd like to thank Jim and Brian for their service in keeping me in the loop for how bad this SNL wrestling show is😂
People forget that Vince and WWE still view NXT as developmental compared to Raw and SD
The problem with NXT is that Vince will never let NXT "get over" on the other 2
Spot on about Steven Seagal. He's the 2nd biggest phony in martial arts next to Frank Dux.
I know he was a fraud but blood sport still holds up very well lol
Say what you want about WWE but atleast they had the knowledge to massively change Seth and Roman from just being “The Shield Guys” and gave them unique characters while Ambrose/Moxoly is the same exact guy doing the same shit just now he’s in the main event because he’s not competing with his more talented Shield Partners
Totally! Dean should have stuck with the pooper scooper. That was a brilliant cutting edge angle!
Roman was exactly that shield dude only until very recently.
Roman was "The Shield Guy" for like what 5 years?
@@sergf3624 Totally! He should take wrestling seriously like Jim Cornette! Remember when Jim was a part of a match where the heels literally murdered the Undertaker, then Undertaker's body rose above the arena on its way to heaven? That's the serious kind of angle that Jim and I like!
@@HajoDonovan Yeah Roman Rightfully just spent the last 5 month away from wrestling just Pumping himself so full of steroids and Human Growth Hormone that the white 'sof his eye's have turned a muddy brown colour. And he is even slower in ring then he was before his movements are far more restricted.
As a Former Pro Wrestler and now a Trainer I find it offensive seeing that Roided up Samoan Ultimate Warrior being at the top of the card when I have people in my beginners Classes that have better Basic's and Better Timing then Reigns, this is way I can't watch WWE anymore. There are so many Better in ring workers way better promo's and countless more people who are a lot more believable or legitiment Wrestler in WWE then The Steroid Hound.
John Moxley is the Steven Seagal of professional wrestling?
Nailed it.
Moxley and Archer wasn’t great by any means . . Problem is there was like 10 ddt and to much hardcore stuff that’s not making sense . The finish was really silly with the roll up .
I think the key difference between AEW and NXT is that AEW is trying hard to promote their A show while WWE is really not caring if their C show gets beat in the ratings.
NXT is still WWE's developmental system, so Vince doesn't care about what their ratings are since his A and B shows, as terrible as those are(and I mean stench of death bad), are still holding on ratings and revenue wise
At this point, Vince will only care about NXT if the USA network starts to actually have issues with the ratings.
@@davids2606 and even then, Raw and Smackdown will have to be in trouble ratings wise before NXT even gets into the discussion.
If NXT had ratings issues with USA, chances are that he'll just put it back on the WWE Network and write off his losses
Come on, i think Smackdown is till better than Dynamyte
Yes aew tries way too hard by doing violence and blood every week and people will get bored of it all eventually. Wwe rarely does violence and blood and I think because they mostly save them for appropriate matches and angles instead of every week like aew
"I'm grudge watchin' this show" again Mr.Cornette speaks my mind
This match was absolute garbage like the match Moxley had with Eddie Kingston. The finishers being no sold is an atrocity to the business, especially when Moxley hits 3 on Archer and he kicks out at 2
The no selling is the worst part. It wouldn't be as bad if they would sell and work on their pacing and psychology. It doesn't need to be go top speed the entire mayptch every match.
Feud of the year 😂😂😂😂😂
Not selling BIG move?...... John Moxly is learning from the Best/Master/Teacher. Youngbucks would be proud seeing John Moxley not selling lance finisher.
Archer kicked out of the 2nd ddt after the one on the outside.... that was the end for me.
Go watch WhatCulture (Adam Miller) what said about this spot and you know there’s some clowns who like it
AEW Dynamite is the perfect example of why wrestler's shouldn't be given creative freedom.
Hulk Hogan ring a bell?
@@pridapit , another good example.
Oh finally i found a guy that has similar mindset with me. When Moxley whined about in wwe he got limited on creativity aspect by Vince, while right here in AEW he just proves to everybody that he is a bloody mess
I can't remember wether it was his interview with Chris Jericho or Wade Keller but Moxley blamed him not getting a push as a main eventer in wwe due to his appearance on Stone Cold's wwe network show, Stone cold said he felt guilty about it afterwards. Well I hope Stone Cold has been watching Moxley in AEW because he will realise that maybe there's a reason the WWE didn't see Moxley as a top guy which didn't involve his show. Moxley is a goof and the fact that AEW have gone with him as their babyface champion and not Cody is laughable.
Mox unchained is surely showing WWE how much they messed up with him 🙄
Totally! He was given gold by WWE. The pooper scooper would have made him a millionaire and turned around WWE's record low ratings!
I wish I could say Corny is wrong but he ain't.
So it's very possible at The Shield carried 🤔🤫Moxley through his whole WWE career?🤫
Good ol' Jim speaking the truth as always
At least Impact are booking Madman Fulton as a monster, compared to how AEW are booking Lance Archer.
Monster? Tessa Blanchard hitting him like nothing.
Karrion kross was becoming one until the injury happened
Impact also gave piece of shit Joey Ryan a job before they absolutely had to can him.
Archer really fucked it up by leaving Japan and the Suzukigun
8:28 They should have used that description as the artwork. Moxley looking into a mirror combing his thinning hair with Seagal as his reflection and Cornette staring at him with a confused look.
Maybe next time
I just want to ask the people who knows how this works: Why are these matches happening like that? Aren't the road agents supposed to put the matches together? With people like Arn, Dean Malenko, Hardy and quite a few more veterans - why are these matches put together like this with nonsensical stuff happening?
It's like they're there to pick up a check, I dont see any influence from these legends they got employed
I was getting blast by the AEW marks, because i said that AEW they are having cringy matches and promo and doing a lot of that goofiness bs segment. An example Mori and Kid Saiban bringing an Arcade just to do a dumbass spot, and then Morí gets piss off because they broke his Video Game, and then MJF and Jericho had a dumb promo about steak, and They have this hardcore Match once again, like i was hoping for AEW to start doing good segments after the fiasco they had on their last ppv after the Hardy accident and the Darby Allen spot with the body bag, but everything is getting repeated and boring.
It's like critizising Trump.
Yes sir that's the best way to put it, we were LIED to by Tony Con. I know it's khan but it might as well be Con because he conning the wrestle community.
Here is a startling fact, Anybody remember Izzy the NXT superfan who loved Bayley years ago? She now watches AEW on a regular basis. Good job on keeping your fans, WWE!
Get the title off Moxley.
Moxley needs a Home Depot contract!
100% agree Jim and what would you expect from AEWCWWE Lite.
Better name would be AECWCW
The whole 'constant no-selling' thing is a cancer. I think it's origins are idiots not understanding strong style and rather than doing it like in Japan, they do it like how they -think- the Japanese strong style is. Or some Chikara bullcrap. But at the end of the day it just makes everyone look weak. 'Why should I root for this guy if it took six of his finishers to actually phase someone' comes to mind.
"I'm not letting them forget" .............."oh yeah except Cody!"
Jim Cornette was absolutely correct about this.
When was the last time Moxley had a non dq match/hardcore match? talk about a one trick pony.
His match like three weeks ago with Eddie Kingston
Lance Archer is the “Murderhawk” when he destroys 140 pound production assistants but he loses a world title match on a fluke roll-up and then casually walks out of the ring?!?!?!?!
What are they even doing!!!
I think Jon Moxley just wants every of his match to be no dq, Hardcore, no disqualification, no holds barred type of matches for some reason of his favorite matches in the indies and make it good for mainstream but it is not working ..
I knew Corny tear this a new one and I wasn’t disappointed
Glad Ambrose is getting the recognition he deserved since his time in WWE. He is just an autistic version of Pillman.
More like the discount store defect version of Pillman.
@@RandalfElVikingo Jesus Christ Pillman had more talent in his pinky than Stone Cold Moxley
@@Kas58223 Pillman Jr. makes Ambrose look like a lowcard guy and they are both in opposite positions right now :/ That's AEW for you.
@@RandalfElVikingo I meant Pillman senior
NXTs problem is when we are invested in a particular wrestler Vince comes along and swipes them to the "main" roster and ruins them. Then we are left having to start all over again finding someone to watch and develop a relationship with.
That's almost any indie fed worth watching in the US. NXT lets more people see the transition process between indie and Raw
Moxley should had lost the title. His run has been so lack luster
Was waiting for this one...atrocious match, buries everyone and everything about the company
Wrong
@@chasestallings6661 wrong
@@chasestallings6661 He is spot on. AEW geeks know nothing about wrestling. Which is why they think shit like this is good.
Hearing tidbits like Monsoon having 10 G's in his pocket on the daily, and never worried about being mugged, is why I listen to Corney!
When they announced it will be an no DQ match the first thing i thought there are no matches with rules in AEW anyway
LAZY BOOOOOOKING
Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose/Jon Good has always been horrible in the ring where ever he has been. Going back to Heartland and CZW. His throws and punches have always looked like a 1st grader trying to take on a senior. If he isn't with someone else his weaknesses come out in droves. That and he has never been able to put a promo together makes me never want to watch him as a solo performer.
This was a bad boring match. Archer just doesnt have it. Not believable.
He sucks and always has. His tag team w/ DBS jr in NJPW was so incredibly boring.
@@dirtmcgirt8269 bullshit.
Just because aew makes him look like doofus doesn't mean he is
DEAN AMBROSE > JON MOXLEY!!!
ITS LIKE JIM SAYS.... HE TREATING THE AEW TITLE LIKE THE HARDCORE CHAMPIONSHIP
Maaaarrrkkk
Maaaarrrkkkk
I don't think I've ever been more let down in all my time watching wrestling than by Jon Moxley.
I'll fully admit I bought into it. It believed that WWE was holding him back and there was so much more to him. Now that I've seen Jon Moxlry unshackled, I just wish he'd leave wrestling, Dean Ambrose or Jon Moxley. Maybe he could be a manager, because he can definitely talk, but his work is just the same stupid hardcore horseshit every time. They go too long, no one sells, even moves that should be hospitalization angles at best or never attempted at worst.
They are trying so hard to make him Steve Austin 2, but they have no idea how to and he is nowhere near the caliber of talent necessary for that. He's not a no nonsense, tough as balls asskicking underdog, he's just basically playing a crazy vagrant who shows up from the crowd and shoots promos in dingy alleys.
On top of that, one of the best things of Austin was his pursuit of the title. He wanted it and no matter what obstacle was in front of him, it may slow him down, but he'd get his eventually over months of build. Moxley already has the belt and he just no sells everything and buries everyone. What is the mark of a great story: the journey or the destination? Well in Moxley's case, the journey was about 4 shows long and the destination smells strongly of human shit, so I guess neither and fuck this story.
Austin started waaaay before wwf as well, nurtured by legends of the territory days. He was great in the ring and when he finally adopted his Stone Cold gimmick he deliberately simplified his work and ended up doing more of a brawler style with tidbits of technical wrestling and gimmicky stuff
“What crowd” LOL 😂
stone cold jon moxley.... jim at his best, lmfao
Push them right out the door into a cab?
or
Push then right out the door in front of a moving cab?
Because the second one is the only way to remove the stench the Bucks have put on professional wrestling
I admit. I rolled my eyes and sighed when they said this would be a no DQ match. Mox is capable of more than just hardcore brawls. It’s time for him to start showing that again.
Moxley sucks... but honestly, not as bad as Cody recently
AEW has definitely over sold and under delivered!!! Sports based wrestling?? Similar to NJPW I was hoping. I was so pumped for a new promotion to offer an alternative to WWE. I loved ECW and was hoping AEW would be more like ECW with some modern twists. Instead it has become a joke. Jim keeps me watching AEW because his reviews are hilarious and true. Spot on as always Jim!! I have purchased every AEW ppv so far being hopeful each time but the last one was so bad I may stop. Jim's reviews may still force me to buy Full Gear though ha ha
it did become like ECW...after all the technical guys left. the last days of ECW were horrible with nothing but garbage wrestling.
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 yep that's true!!! I loved when ECW was well rounded and had it all though. I love hardcore wrestling when do well once or twice on a card along with some great technical and high flying. Nothing beats a good storyline with some strong heat and emotional investment. That's the biggest thing AEW lacks is the actual heat and emotion. Just a bunch of goofy comedy and sloppy botch fests. There are usually one or two solid matches per card in AEW now days. It is getting worse. Some good talkers for sure but not a lot of feuds or storylines with real emotional investment.
By AEW standards this match should have ended with a roll up.
I agree with Corny on all the kickouts of finishers and guys going through tables and 2 minutes later no selling it.
are we getting to the point where we like it if AEW is bad? Because we know Jim's take on it would be fun to listen to
I liked it last year but the whole thing is a joke now and fans on Facebook love this crap
I cant thumb this up enough.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I love when aew does dumb stuff gives corny more material
And idiot aew marks think dean’s the best among the shield. He’s clearly the weakest member.
I think we all want that aew to get worse so corny has more material
@@Thebestoutthere yea when I saw the shield at first I always thought he was the weakest or least interesting one. He should have stuck with that gimmick where he was a germaphobe it would have been gold in 2020
@@mariomorales786 I don’t want aew to get worse. I just want them to act like how other promotions act, by being just “there”. “There” meaning just another promotion to watch outside of wwe like tna, njpw, roh, etc. No promotion will dethrone the wwe whether the wwe sucks or not. They’re still acting like they can dethrone the wwe which will make their promotion worse.
@@mariomorales786 i have said that for months now. Dean’s germaphobe gimmick would look great especially now. Seth as the messiah and roman as the tribal chief are great compared to this bootleg version of stone cold.
The biggest irony of Moxley is that he did none of the no-DQ shit in NJPW, and it was phenomenal. He went to Japan and was reborn in the eyes of everybody, having amazing tournament matches and using real storytelling to keep you interested. He was immediately put in the US title picture, won it in a great match, and cut some amazing promos.
How did he go from that, to this? Even if this is what he wants to do, why do it when what you did in New Japan proved to be the winning formula for quality matches and fan appea? However, after seeing the way Omega, the Bucks, Archer, and now Mox have all kinda gone down the drain in AEW… i can’t tell if it’s AEW making these guys look bad, if it’s because they finally have control over what they want because Khan doesn’t know better, or if New Japan is just that much better than current-day American wrestling.
Also: Orange Cassidy has had more main event matches than Adam Page; who, may I remind you, was supposed to be having the hottest storyline in AEW with his breakup with Omega
So yeah, that’s AEW in 2020.
I'd say for why everyone has gone down the drain in AEW is a mix of all three. In Japan I believe these guys had restrictions to what they could and couldnt do and had to be inventive to get themselves over. Now that they have free reign I dont think they care that much. And overall Tony Khan should seek outside help for his booking. Hes too erratic to get someone over/build new stars
I agree with Cornette that this match didn't do any good. Finisher at the beginning, No selling on razor's edge that ain't acceptable. And somehow I agree that AEW is trying to do even funnier segments which is really not that necessary.
Man thinking about it more AEW feels just like diet Spike era TNA and Spike era TNA was just diet Attitude Era WWF
Difference being Christian, Angle, and Hardy were bigger stars and better draws that Mox and Miro
Kurt angle>y2j
Jeff hardy>dean ambrose
Christian>miro
Booker t>cody rhodes
Kevin nash>goldust
Team 3D>ftr
I agree with the co-host. I started watching AEW about a year ago and it was alot better back then it has gone way downhill since. Especially the past 3 months or so it has really started to suck hard. Every now and then you get a good match like the parking lot brawl a few weeks ago but almost 90% of the time I find myself extremely disappointed. WWE is far from perfect but at the moment it is blowing AEW out of the water on a weekly basis.
I have actually started watching Impact lately and I find that 10 times more entertaining than AEW especially the Impact womens division which is great at the moment.
The Bucks would never carry $10K in their pockets. Their fanny packs, though, that's another story.
To be fair, the Bucks probably have credit cards so they don't need to carry $10,000 around with them. :P I think the worst part of the match was when Mox somehow revived himself after getting hit with the Blackout to win with a roll-up (people faffing about with furniture for ages was idiotic too though).
Fun fact, I was playing a show in Nashville many years ago and Steven Segal was playing across the street. After our set we were outside and Steven is leaving his venue. We go up to make quick conversation, and Segal refers to himself in 3rd person as "Steven Segal". He says: "Steven Segal is tired, Steven Segal just played a very exciting set" and he leaves. That was my Steven Segal experience.
I like Mox, I think he's a great promo. But in the ring, this guy has to be one of the laziest guys ever. This BS death match garbage is lazy, no other way to say it. You do it one time, it's fun, you do it 10 times, it's fn lazy. Why should I care for this deathmatch, when all he's done are deathmatches? Does he really not understand that he will appeal to the stupid AEW fanbase no matter what, but to reach the fans beyond them, he needs to start putting in some work? He is so lazy, it's ridiculous. But I can't really blame him, the booker should know how to get him to be creative. Of course, the booker doesn't know a damn thing, that's been quite obvious, having tolerated AEW this year. I'm done with this experiment, SmackDown has legitimately been enjoyable since Reigns returned, I'll stick to that.
Was Sabu, RVD, Dudley Boys, Hardcore legend Mick Foley lazy as well? What about Terry Funk, you know one of Jim's own friends?
@@markcollins6635 exactly my point. ECW worked at that time coz there was nothing else like it. That was 20 goddamn years ago. Leave it in the goddamn past, it's over. And why the hell would I want Mox to be a retread of Terry Funk or Mick Foley instead of being goddamn himself? Don't tell me he doesn't have his own personality or that he can't have a normal goddamn match. I've followed Mox's entire career in WWE, this guy is good, he's been in some of the best tag team matches I've ever watched and he's been in some of the most enjoyable feuds WWE has had in the last decade. So I know when he's being lazy. Creatively, this is just fn lazy. Just throw another wrestler at Moxley for this month. No story, no angle, have a deathmatch coz it's an easy sell. Jon Moxley, the deathmatch guy. Well, if it's not too much to ask, I'd like to see Jon Moxley, the main event star. If you think Lance Archer can't work for shit, then have someone else be the fkn challenger. Have Guevara fight Mox for a change. Just enough of this stupid garbage matches. He's had one every month since he won that damn belt. End of the day, though, the booker is the one at fault. Coz he has to present his stars in the best way possible and Khan has failed at this for the entirety of this year. Awful show.
@@siddhanth3044 Yeah, but Jim' wants the 80s back, are we not allowed 90s ECW as well? Or are you both being hypocrites? Kross no sells in NXT, but that is allowed right? What about The Fiend, Goldberg, even Drew kicking out ar ONE from an F5, but its all good right? AEW has monsters who no sell as well, one of them is Lance, Mox is just an absorbant pain-loving guy like Foley was, he was that before he even went to WWE. Also that deathmatch guy had the MOTY in 2011 with Seth Rollins, you don't do that if you can't wrestle like some of you Jim fans like to state. He is rightful wrestler of the year as well, not just for his AEW work, but his work outside it as well. You know his match with Kross, Darby, NJPW his AEW stint which was better quality matches he ever had in any of the WWE shows bar his stint in FCW.
I remember when workhorse Mox wanted a match out of Brock, but he was too lazy, don't accuse one of the hardest workers in the past decade of being lazy, I'll call you out on it.
@@markcollins6635 he's being lazy or he's just as uninspired with the booking as me. I've seen this man have some bangers, he's either not interested in working at that level again or he's been booked to seem like a has been. This dude is one of the top wrestlers of the decade yet every match for the last year has been deathmatch, deathmatch, violence, deathmatch. I'm sick of it. You don't need to tell me Mox works hard and is awesome, I've seen it with my own eyes. Seeing him cash in that MITB on Rollins was the most satisfying, heartwarming thing I've seen from WWE over the last 5 years. But I can also recognise when he either phones it in creatively or doesn't care as much. It's very visible. I'm not sure if the staph infections and wear and tear on his body over all these years have just taken too great a toll, but there is no denying that Mox matches follow the same pattern over and over and has for the last year. This man is the only reason I used to even tune in to AEW, but if they're gonna be so lazy as to not even have a credible feud for him or put him in a position to stand out, I'm just gonna stick to SmackDown.
New drinking game: take a drink every time Corny says “garbage wrestling”
And people wonder why Brock didn't want to do any of Moxley's hardcore bs at Wrestlemania, this is why lol
I said before and I'll say it again Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose is overrated as hell and people say he's better than Seth Rollins smh
They both had MOTY back in FCW and feud of year, not all that was down to Seth.
Archer is essentially AE Kane. Built to be an unstoppable killer but always loses the main event.
I agree with Jim about Moxley. Never liked a single match he had in WWE and haven't seen anything different here.
I never realized how terrible moxley was until he came to AEW. He is just the shits.
I mean I feel like at this point they should have let Archer win the title. You know, so that next week orange Cassidy can beat him for the belt. Because AEW, that's why.
I usually don't agree with Cornette, but this entire video is true. Moxley's finisher is already pretty dumb, and then there is a two count with less than 10 seconds in the match? How could I get invested in it, specially when the monster of the company, Archer, jobs to a rollup after hitting his finisher??????
Lmao “Stone Cold John Moxly” not gonna lie i kinda get mad when he says that even though i know he is clearly being sarcastic but he should never be mentioned in the same sentence as the rattlesnake
The thing that these dummy's do now every week setting up a table or a chair or some stupid set up to put a guy through, thinking they're building up to some great amazing spot is so boring. We know what's going to happen.
Back in the day when E&C/Hardy's/Dudleys set tables or ladders and stuff, it's because there were 6 guys in the match, so you could set a table up and then immediately getting beaten up by somebody else which takes the focus off the "furniture setup" then you go do more shit on the other side of the ring or do a spot where you're trying to grab the titles then later in the match "oh my god" somebody fell off the ladder onto the table that was set up 10-15 minutes before and everyone forgot about because you did other cool shit and it's an amazing spot.
I absolutely refuse to watch AEW. Comedy bullshit, nobodies on television every week that no one cares about that for some reason goes 20 minutes. They've burnt through feud after feud after feud in only a year and it's just spot after spot, no rules. Moxley is fucking terrible, he's literally had the same match every single week.
I used to be a diehard. Now Jim and his shows and like 2002 pro wrestling and back, with some current-is NJPW is all i watch with any regularity anymore. AEW is the biggest gut punch since it was obvious WCW was done. Worse too given all the promising shit they talked only to be the corniest brand ever. At least WCW and WWE/F had been great.
I'm sure Jim would agree that with the current business as it is, regardless of wether we're talking about AEW or Vince's company is that the believability of the business is gone & it's not coming back, same with good, intelligent booking.
Believe ability like watching Jake the snake DDT Hogan on the concrete and unable to put his KO'd ass back in the ring resulting in countout victory for Roberts.
kayfabe died around 30 years ago. Cornette is the only one acting like it's still a thing.
@v b Isn't Roman's thing a Roman idea backed by Heyman?, I doubt Vince did anything other than ok it.
@@manuelaparcedo417 Jim's overall point is, is that whenever you do a show with angles & storylines, to do it in a way that isn't insulting to the viewers/fans intelligence & compel the viewers to come back to watch each week, that's what made the 4H-Dusty stuff fun to watch each week & also back then there was no internet & no dirtsheet writers like Mike Johnson & Dave Meltzer giving away "spoiler alerts" for upcoming plans for talent & etc like it is today. I mean, once the spoilers get out as well as Vince dumbing down his shows to the lowest denominator meaning either kids or people wth low iqs, nobody will watch as evident by the low tv ratings the business is showing today.
@@TheSportsfan35 wrestling is "insulting to the viewers intelligence", every time they do a move, every time they bounce on the ropes, every time they hit each other with weapons. you know for a fact it's fake and just go "yeah...sure pal".
you choose to ignore how fake it is for the entertainment of watching it.
"absolutely stench ridden, rotten match" never change Jim, AEW is everything you say it is and Meltzer needs to take his meds
I would call myself a die hard nxt fan. Like the only brand I watch consistently
Same with me and Impact Wrestling because it's the only wrestling show I can stand to watch. The others are stupid, goofy and boring.
Remember AEW going to be one of biggest wrestling company in the world.
I really didn't think it would get this bad this quick. Some bright spots early on but since Matt Hardy's introduction AEW's gone way bad. Some important decision need to be done with the booking.
Finisher moves shouldn't be a thing anymore in wwe/aew since they kick out of them 3 times per match. Finishers went from "devastating!" to "nah I'm good."