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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Canada's deficit is expected to grow to $1.4 trillion in the next five years. Andrew Chang explains that, while high national debt differs from personal debt, experts say it does come with a price.
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Комментарии • 627

  • @ngvkhtnw22
    @ngvkhtnw22 10 месяцев назад +204

    Government debt is NOT a problem IF the debt is used for improving productivity and generating revenues. But Canada's mounting government debt is basically used for public consumption; very few, if any, new revenue generating assets such as highways, subways, sea ports, public housing, hospitals, high value added manufacturing, high tech hubs, etc., have benefited from it.

    • @JamesBond77
      @JamesBond77 10 месяцев назад +5

      You get it my man.👍

    • @Swarm509
      @Swarm509 10 месяцев назад +11

      And so much just given away whenever the PM decides he needs to look good on TV for some pet cause. Not counting when he just wants to make his friends richer.

    • @John.F_Kennedy
      @John.F_Kennedy 10 месяцев назад +7

      It actually has quite a lot. We consistently put the money back into education, healthcare, public services, infrastructure, etc.
      The biggest reason for the current increase in debt is due to spending and the lowered productivity during the pandemic. Canada is not alone in this.

    • @ngvkhtnw22
      @ngvkhtnw22 10 месяцев назад +20

      @@John.F_Kennedy Canada’s labour productivity has slipped relative to peer countries since 2000, NOT since the pandemic, the average Canadian worker would need to work almost 30% more hours to generate the same output as American workers, 25% more hours to match the output of German workers, 15% more hours to keep up with British workers, and 6% more hours to match the output of Australian workers. Canada’s rail, subway, and bus service systems are subpar by international standards for ages. We don’t even have a proper electronic system for patient health records within the same province, let alone within the country. Canada spends a lot of money on education but does not have any strategic focus, the government simply divvy up the money and we end up with a shortage of skilled workers in critical areas of healthcare and in the trades. The government has left the public housing business for at least 30 years. And Canada brought in a million immigrants within a period of two years with absolutely no plan and no attention paid to its impacts on housing.

    • @ninow5
      @ninow5 10 месяцев назад +1

      not a good hedge.. bad business

  • @Carponchia-z8k
    @Carponchia-z8k 10 месяцев назад +8

    Previous Conservative PM Stephen Harper accredited to Canada's AAA rating and lowest debt to GDP. 8 years later, under Turdeau we have 1.173 Trillion in debt. 47B annually in interest rate is ludicrous. He's Not Worth The Cost!

    • @thomassankala6043
      @thomassankala6043 10 месяцев назад +1

      According to trudeau,budget will balance itself

  • @AmandaHugandKiss411
    @AmandaHugandKiss411 10 месяцев назад +2

    No Canadian government shouldn't keep borrowing many and increasing our debts.
    Enough is enough.

  • @thehighlightsreel953
    @thehighlightsreel953 3 месяца назад

    Look, Alberta economists blew this one but for the simple fact that their working population is younger and their gross production is so high, it's an inevitable unfair trajectory for them to be participating. Alberta's obviously willing to dare cherry pick or else this proposal would never have been made.

  • @manvirsingh6039
    @manvirsingh6039 Месяц назад

    Canada’s federal debt is spiraling out of control, and it’s time for immediate, bold action. The government must slash wasteful spending, close tax loopholes, and streamline the public sector to save billions. We need to invest in high-growth sectors like green energy and technology while simplifying regulations to boost entrepreneurship. A balanced approach-focused on long-term debt reduction and sustainable economic growth-is crucial. If we fail to act now, the burden will only grow, threatening the nation’s future prosperity. Canada needs decisive leadership to turn this around before it’s too late.

  • @danielmoyle5503
    @danielmoyle5503 10 месяцев назад

    And the question never asked, and answer never stated... Who are we paying 46.5 billion dollars a year to?? hmmmmm? Were ONE country. Its a control system. If the money paid was in physical form, the collectors, whoever the hell they are, would just be dumping it in the ocean. Its not about money, its about control.

  • @josephburke6155
    @josephburke6155 10 месяцев назад

    I gets the CBC got go.

  • @canadairishguy
    @canadairishguy 6 месяцев назад

    Again and again. You first state that a person's debt is completely different form a government debt.
    Then again you compare a person's debt to government debt to argue your point.
    HA HA HA HA

  • @Malbosia
    @Malbosia 10 месяцев назад +39

    Canadas credit rating comes from the same people that gave sub prime mortgage backed securities AAA ratimgs, they same year it created a global financial crisis.

    • @maxcloutier5285
      @maxcloutier5285 10 месяцев назад +2

      lol, fantastic way to burst a party bubble.

    • @JPs-q1o
      @JPs-q1o 10 месяцев назад +2

      Like Moodys whose CEO said "our ratings are not intended to be used by anyone for any purpose" during a congressional hearing following the 2008 GFC 😂 😂 😂

  • @andyozga6901
    @andyozga6901 10 месяцев назад +82

    Imagine all the services that could be had with the interest payment.

    • @very_awake
      @very_awake 10 месяцев назад +16

      Lack of foresight will cost Canada its high standard of living.

    • @Buckshot99
      @Buckshot99 10 месяцев назад +1

      It is imagining all inefficient government services that got into debt.

    • @TheNewSchoolGamer
      @TheNewSchoolGamer 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@very_awake
      It already has, GDP per capita and productivity have been declining. I know many people who've left or are leaving Canada

    • @JBCanCon
      @JBCanCon 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah. One year of the amount we pay in interest could clean up the tent cities from our major metro areas and get those people into homes.

    • @bobdobalina8910
      @bobdobalina8910 10 месяцев назад +1

      Now that you have had smoke blown up your as by the cbc and it's As Clown
      Here is the truth in 60 seconds, look it up
      Inflation explained by Nobel Prize Winner - Milton Friedman

  • @ivanandreevich8568
    @ivanandreevich8568 10 месяцев назад +7

    He makes $80,000 and he's going to have a mortgage? This is Canada bro. Are you a comedian?

  • @elajoanna6028
    @elajoanna6028 10 месяцев назад +6

    Spend more and produce noting = higher inflation = higher interest rate = highere taxes to pay goverment debt = working middle class pays for it all. No, it is Not Okay.

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp 10 месяцев назад +93

    $46 billion annually is still way too high in debt servicing costs.

    • @matthewsemenuk8953
      @matthewsemenuk8953 10 месяцев назад +1

      Those costs are non negotiable.

    • @Matt-YT
      @Matt-YT 10 месяцев назад +4

      Almost $1200 per person just to service the debt

    • @JulietMartin2022
      @JulietMartin2022 10 месяцев назад +3

      This debt carrying cost is a major contributor to inflation.

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@matthewsemenuk8953 Not true as the debt principal can instead be paid down (or less issued in the first place), thus reducing the annual debt servicing costs. The Treasury could actively be buying back government bonds.

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp 8 месяцев назад

      @@JulietMartin2022 Actually, servicing the debt reduces inflation, but issuing the debt of course in the first place increases it.

  • @billvyse8398
    @billvyse8398 10 месяцев назад +4

    Ok CBC and Andrew Chang here are a couple of questions you should answer in a follow up report. Who does the government "borrow" money from? The money that is borrowed, (that puts all tax payers in debt) where does it come from? How did this "money" come to exist? Who creates this money and why is there interest owed on it? The BoC and the US Fed, constantly identify the 2% inflation rate, please explain why the target inflation rate is not pegged at 0%? While you are at it please explain the difference between "inflation" and "CPI" If you want any help with those answers just give me a call!

    • @williamjameshuggins
      @williamjameshuggins 10 месяцев назад

      That money comes mostly from Canadians, about 70-75% of it. they are borrowing your savings and paying you interest on it. there is interest because you want compensation for the use of your funds while they use it instead of you.
      the inflation target could be set at several different levels but in 1989 the reserve bank of New Zealand starting working with that number on the premise that low was good but negative was bad (complex reasons, look up "Irving Fisher"), so they picked 2%, which gave them a bit of wiggle room to cut rates before deflation set in. we could have picked 1% or 3%, little difference but 0% was seen as "playing with deflationary fire".
      inflation is the average rate at which the purchasing power of currency is decreasing. since that's hard to measure (prices fluctuate), we set up a fairly consistent basket of consumption goods that most households buy every month and we monitor the cost of that. the percent change in the price of that basket is CPI, basically a proxy for inflation that we can get information on.
      if you actually want to know more about this stuff, have a look at my channel which is mostly videos from my financial history course. i suggest watching in order 3, 4, and 5 which cover debt, banking, and central banking for more details on this stuff

  • @jtaodmd
    @jtaodmd 6 месяцев назад +4

    Don't worry everyone, Trudeau says the budget will balance itself. Let's follow Quebec and keep supporting him like a bunch of 18 year olds who are completely clueless.

  • @TheNetwork
    @TheNetwork 10 месяцев назад +113

    Lol people who think govt debt is a good thing have no idea what inflation does to the poor.

    • @very_awake
      @very_awake 10 месяцев назад

      You’ll be surprised that a lot of people are just happy with the handouts - $500 here and there. Politicians love exploiting those people.

    • @Matt-YT
      @Matt-YT 10 месяцев назад +3

      Argentines, Greeks, Sri Lankan to just name a few know...

    • @MasiukA
      @MasiukA 10 месяцев назад +5

      Right. Inflation benefits the ultra rich because they are able to spend the currency when it still has value.

    • @Matt-YT
      @Matt-YT 10 месяцев назад

      @@MasiukA because asset prices have disproportionately benefited from ultra low interest rates and QE

    • @JiggilySmash
      @JiggilySmash 10 месяцев назад +2

      Our income tax system is progressive for a reason. Collecting funds through deficits is not progressive. Like you say, the poor are disproportionately affected by inflation, as the loss of buying power represents a larger percentage of their total wealth compared to those with more wealth. When individuals borrow, they are using existing currency. When the government borrows, it essentially creates new currency. This not only dilutes the value of all currency but also leaves a portion of it in the government's control. They're gathering OUR wealth and they're not gathering it progressively.

  • @faithsanspeur
    @faithsanspeur 10 месяцев назад +42

    How much of that is going to imaginary companies , slush funds, offshore accounts and general incompetence?

    • @Alex-js5lg
      @Alex-js5lg 10 месяцев назад +8

      Good question. We should tighten up the tax laws and empower the CRA to do its job.

    • @matthewsemenuk8953
      @matthewsemenuk8953 10 месяцев назад

      Too many scandals to keep track of.

    • @JPs-q1o
      @JPs-q1o 10 месяцев назад +1

      Like those clowns who developed the arrivecan app...what an entertaining question period especially the "Office Space" meme version of it 😂 😂 😂

    • @maxineporter8848
      @maxineporter8848 9 месяцев назад

      @@Alex-js5lg Work on closing the "tax gap" and eliminate tax loopholes. If the underground economy keeps growing, there is no way CRA can keep up with its audits. We may have symptoms similar to those which caused Greece's debt crisis. As the population grows (and payments for socia benefits likewise). is our tax base keeping up with this?

    • @9avedon
      @9avedon Месяц назад

      Hint.......Huge Pension funds with great ROI accrued from large government infrastructure projects Aka "multi year, contract-Plus agreements".

  • @drewski-qu3co
    @drewski-qu3co 10 месяцев назад +2

    Budgets balance themselves...much like the original Trudeau, it will take 20 years after he leaves to bring it back under control.

  • @clanholmes
    @clanholmes 10 месяцев назад +15

    Forgetting Provincial debt and Municipal Debt

    • @charlolel
      @charlolel 3 месяца назад

      Yeah and...? It's the same mechanics at play.

    • @D59hawk
      @D59hawk Месяц назад

      …. And people borrowing to pay our onerous Taxes.

  • @david1george
    @david1george 10 месяцев назад +20

    $1.2 Trillion in debt and Trudeau want to spend more? That's insane. We need an electrion. Trudeau needs to go.

    • @samanthac3357
      @samanthac3357 7 месяцев назад +3

      You think the debt will go down with the other nope. The only one that paid for the debit was harper.

    • @brianmcintyre8563
      @brianmcintyre8563 3 месяца назад +1

      Or a revelution.

    • @JimP226
      @JimP226 Месяц назад

      ​@@brianmcintyre8563 Great idea! Revolutions always turn countries around! Just look at how much better off Syria, Egypt and Libya are doing!

  • @PetrichorYYC
    @PetrichorYYC 10 месяцев назад +81

    Absolutely love this show. Put everything in simple and easy to understand terms. Almost would like to have this be its own channel!

    • @kennordsfan1494
      @kennordsfan1494 10 месяцев назад

      They can be after we defunded the Liberal mouth piece CBC 🤷‍♂️

    • @kuruptflip21
      @kuruptflip21 10 месяцев назад +3

      He’s so articulate

    • @Crunch104
      @Crunch104 10 месяцев назад +1

      Great idea!

    • @alspilowey
      @alspilowey 10 месяцев назад +3

      Say goodbye to it and the fifth estate of PP gets in.

    • @bobdobalina8910
      @bobdobalina8910 10 месяцев назад +1

      You just gobbled up cbc Propaganda from their resident as clown
      Here is the truth in 60 seconds, look it up
      Inflation explained by Nobel Prize Winner - Milton Friedman

  • @ghostagent5431
    @ghostagent5431 10 месяцев назад +30

    Two weeks to flatten the curve.
    We're all in this together.
    Multiculturalism is strength.
    The debt will balance itself.

    • @albertomendez4485
      @albertomendez4485 10 месяцев назад +1

      ca va bien aller

    • @karenjobagy5822
      @karenjobagy5822 10 месяцев назад +1

      You forget the waters are rising and weather is changing.

  • @christopherblack4520
    @christopherblack4520 10 месяцев назад +35

    The problem is we are not getting anything from the Liberal reckless spending. Where is all this money going I'm not seeing any benefit, my retired mother sees no benefit,

    • @CHIEF_420
      @CHIEF_420 10 месяцев назад

      🇨🇦
      🧂

  • @JP-zh6ss
    @JP-zh6ss 10 месяцев назад +26

    Not mentioning the provincial debts when comparing with other far more centralized nations is borderline intellectually fraudulent. Fact is with its low productivity, almost nonexistent fiscal margin, oversized governments and total public debt (including provinces) this country is heading for trouble very quickly.

    • @Dremin2009
      @Dremin2009 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, Ontario is doomed. You can tell the politicians don't even consider the consequences, they just continue spending and hope someone else is in office to point to when it eventually crashes.

    • @maxineporter8848
      @maxineporter8848 9 месяцев назад

      I also think that netting assets (such as public pensions) vs debt is misleading. Ontario had that discussion with its AG during the McGuinty/Wynn terms (AG not in favor of netting the teachers' pensions).

    • @charlolel
      @charlolel 3 месяца назад

      Compared to the US Canada is far more centralized though...

    • @theshi3152
      @theshi3152 Месяц назад +1

      This is standard practice when talking about federal level governments. when looking at data you have to get provincial or regional governments included also.
      Its not Fraudulent in the sense that they never claimed this was all the "governments" owe. Provincial debt isn't the same and works very differently than Federal debt. They don't have the same access to "the printer" as the Federal Gov does.

  • @hugh9park
    @hugh9park 10 месяцев назад +43

    This is like watching an addict try to justify their addiction. It’s disgusting. Pierre is right.

    • @vickyvain9190
      @vickyvain9190 10 месяцев назад +1

      perfectly said

    • @coolioso808
      @coolioso808 10 месяцев назад

      Pierre is woefully misinformed or dangerously fear-baiting to gain support and votes. Do you want to know the truth or trust the career politician? Do you trust facts and evidence if you see it? Well, then you might like "The Deficit Myth: The Biggest Lie in Politics" by 1Dime. Well researched and presented.

    • @melissaandjason
      @melissaandjason 9 месяцев назад

      Omg I was thinking this exact thing. Watched Pierre’s ‘time bomb’ video directly before this one… like is this a joke?😳😳😳

    • @Blingdung
      @Blingdung 8 месяцев назад

      Pierre is just going to sell off all our resources, utilities, and public infrastructure to American or international asset management banks and we will be forced to pay them billions for decades just to use things that our tax dollars already paid for. He makes a lot of noise about problems but hasn’t showed any actual solutions. Or worse he’ll sell away our fresh water to hedge funds like blackwater

  • @user__100
    @user__100 10 месяцев назад +2

    Canada uses Newcomers to pay pensions of old Europeans through tax

  • @elhadramyoubeid3911
    @elhadramyoubeid3911 10 месяцев назад +2

    Canada needs to change liberals and ndp costly coalition

  • @TwistyMcFisty
    @TwistyMcFisty 10 месяцев назад +9

    A smart person can take on debt and make something out of it. Unfortunately we are stuck with Trudeau and Freeland.

    • @very_awake
      @very_awake 10 месяцев назад +2

      Back in 2008, the Conservative Government ran a budget deficit to stimulate the economy. I remember a lot of people were up and arms because this was perceived as bailout to the automotive industry. In reality, it saved thousands of high paying middle class jobs. It wasn’t a popular decision at the time but a necessity for sure. A few years later, Harper end up balancing the Federal budget.

  • @OneTrueKing23
    @OneTrueKing23 10 месяцев назад +16

    We are spending similar to Iceland’s gdp on maintaining debt, and yet Freeland thinks Canada is not broken. She should change her surname to Lalaland…

  • @trymex1694
    @trymex1694 10 месяцев назад +9

    4:18 that's not a reasonable comparison as you omit the provincial debts, which are significant. This is because of the kinds of responsibilities taken by the governments is different. In Canada's case, the provinces take on a large share of healthcare and education spending, which would otherwise be taken up by the federal government. All in all, if we include provincial debt to the federal debt and do the same to the US, the US's debt climbs marginally to USD 25 trillion in 2022 (since has increased to 32 trillion) which is ~110% of GDP, but in Canada's case this debt level rises all the way to CAD 2.1 trillion, which is closer to 95% of Canadian GDP, in other words the gap between the US and Canada in debt load to GDP isn't far apart.

    • @williamjameshuggins
      @williamjameshuggins 10 месяцев назад

      that's exactly why we're "middle of the pack" and not "super responsible" as it appears when you hive off the provinces (that was part of the shell game in the 90s - put the debt on provincial balance sheets to improve the fed gov's credit rating)

    • @trymex1694
      @trymex1694 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@williamjameshuggins When discussing debt load and debt sustainability every fiscal update we always have to add each provincial and federal deficits together to get the real deficit to GDP figure, and it's an unconvincing argument, especially since the credit ratings of the provinces isn't stellar in comparison to the federal government's.

    • @williamjameshuggins
      @williamjameshuggins 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@trymex1694 i recommend using the OECD data on general government debt for comparative purposes (unweighted average is 89%, weighted in 121%, we ran 113% - 2022 data). the IMF data the producers cited only considers the fed gov's debt, which as you point out, is not the whole picture.

    • @sammavitae114
      @sammavitae114 10 месяцев назад

      But wouldn’t you also have to add the debt burden of each state to the total to make this comparison?

    • @trymex1694
      @trymex1694 10 месяцев назад

      @sammavitae114 yes you would, and this would change the total % debt load to GDP, however US states are far less indebted as a % of GDP when compared to Canadian provinces, with California having a ~500 billion USD debt load when compared to, say, Ontario's ~340 billion CAD debt load.
      I don't have the exact numbers rn but I'd find it interesting to get total debt loads, I think a comment has a link above I'll update later.

  • @Rnankn
    @Rnankn 10 месяцев назад +7

    The problem is not the quantity, but the quality. Debt is owned by private asset holders, but owed from the public budget. So it is a ‘predominantly’ regressive flow from the poorest to the richest. It is also stimulative, so potentially inflationary, being offset by interest rates that actually amplify the distributive disparity. Yet there is a structural requirement for growing debt. When money is created, through commercial loans, interest immediately begins appreciating on the principle. Except the interest was not created as new money. So we immediately have a monetary deficit as there is never an adequate money supply to repay existing debt. Competition therefore spurs new loans, which creates more debt. With a debt-based currency, loans are required for debt servicing. But then on a substantive level, each dollar created is a claim on future resources. Our true wealth is natural resources which are either finite, or renewable, but regenerate more slowly than capital grows. Existing dollars exceed the stock of energy and materials, making them rather worthless, except for paying debt. So the problem isn’t the quantity of debt, which will never be repaid, it is the system of market-based capital allocation and private ownership of national wealth.

    • @bobdobalina8910
      @bobdobalina8910 10 месяцев назад +1

      You can gobble up the cbc and it's resident as clown's propaganda using smoke and mirrors
      or
      Look this up right here
      Inflation explained by Nobel Prize Winner - Milton Friedman

  • @canadaclub8920
    @canadaclub8920 5 месяцев назад +2

    explaining why deficits are not something to freak out about

  • @Progressive_Canadian
    @Progressive_Canadian 10 месяцев назад +5

    Why does the CBC feel it necessary to put pressure on the average Canadian for debt that has been incurred by the 1%? I have an idea, if Canada wants to recoup some money why don't we go after these mega corporations who are continually sheltering their massive profits in offshore bank accounts to avoid paying taxes here in Canada?

    • @9avedon
      @9avedon Месяц назад

      Progressives Are the problem, they have partnered with the government to screw over free enterprise with red tape bureaucrats.

  • @ToudaHell
    @ToudaHell 10 месяцев назад +56

    When annoying interest turns into problematic interest, that's when you start to really pay down that debt. We need to reshuddle the federal budget and let someone who knows about money back in charge.

    • @nickyalousakis3851
      @nickyalousakis3851 10 месяцев назад +7

      lets un elect liberals.

    • @mikemcmullin149
      @mikemcmullin149 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@nickyalousakis3851 FYI Liberal P. M. Paul Martin was a fiscal Conservative. He was also a businessman. The clowns in power know nothing about business, and the one guy who did, Morneau, they got rid of, he's a current critic of LPoC handling of finances.

    • @nickyalousakis3851
      @nickyalousakis3851 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@mikemcmullin149 -- agree.... i really like paul martin. this is the thing.... no one should be voting for the same party all their lives. you change your vote based on what the country needs at the time.... or to punish an inept govt typically. switching votes is the cerebral vote. i have said many times on these forums that here in toronto it's not an intelligent vote. it's a party loyal simpleton vote.

    • @MarekWojcik-m2g
      @MarekWojcik-m2g 10 месяцев назад +5

      100% agree. The current Liberal party has little to do with Paul Marin's Liberals. It is much further to the left than NDP used to be.

    • @ToudaHell
      @ToudaHell 10 месяцев назад +1

      @mikemcmullin149 and that was why before he left office, he actually balanced the budget. We definitely need another Paul Martin. The question now is, does Polieve have that knowledge? He was a lawyer, right?

  • @Mr.Bassman
    @Mr.Bassman 10 месяцев назад +8

    Criminal overspending

  • @HemiJB91
    @HemiJB91 10 месяцев назад +4

    Lol we already hold most household debt in G7. AA+ , Freeland always mentions AAA perrfect rating ?

  • @luckyloonie1359
    @luckyloonie1359 4 дня назад +1

    5:55 Life is a journey to acquire assets & make once life better than the previous generation physically, emotionally & financially🕯... hoard as much gold as possible in form of jewelry and coinage💲... Do not fall into traps like marriage & religion💸... Marriage is a coffin & every child is a nail in that coffin⚰... Religion is a business with no recession💸... #MeridianCU🌎💘💰

  • @RR-lq3ef
    @RR-lq3ef 10 месяцев назад +27

    Federal government owes or the people of Canada? Oh crap it's the same thing.

    • @JPs-q1o
      @JPs-q1o 10 месяцев назад

      The people are not the government, governments come and go.

    • @loustools6386
      @loustools6386 7 месяцев назад

      The debt stays, and taxes are applied to pay for it. This is slavery.

  • @mitchel90mcnee
    @mitchel90mcnee 10 месяцев назад +41

    I think it's worth noting that when some "expert" states entirely on theory that "Governments have a forever view of things, they're not going to go out of business" they fail to mention Zimbabwe, the Weimar Republic, Argentina, Turkey or Greece, and the terrible effects their inflation and debt policies had on their people and economies. The "debt is good, actually" argument relies entirely on thought experiment, and not on history or observable results.

    • @krabzmorningstar6240
      @krabzmorningstar6240 10 месяцев назад +2

      canada's debt to gdp is less than the US', what are you yapping about

    • @williamjameshuggins
      @williamjameshuggins 10 месяцев назад +4

      Hi Mitchel, you have neglected Venice, America, Britain, and the Dutch Republic in your data mining . the "debt is good" argument does not rely on an infinite timeline whatsoever but its telling that you think it does and that you've found a "gotcha" moment to comment about. When you've done the reading, you can tell us all about it but until you actually do, maybe don't try to summarize other people's arguments incorrectly?

    • @mitchel90mcnee
      @mitchel90mcnee 10 месяцев назад +8

      @krabzmorningstar6240 we're about to pay around 3X the budget of our military on debt servicing fees annualy, and what do we have to show for that debt? Are Canadians better off? Has it improved cost of living? Has our productivity improved? Or have we taken out a mortgage on the future so politicians can win votes with handouts instead of competently solving systemic problems?

    • @mitchel90mcnee
      @mitchel90mcnee 10 месяцев назад

      @williamjameshuggins sorry, what is your argument exactly? Is it "telling" that I don't want bloated government spending that achieves little? Is it "telling" that I desire a government that lives within the means of its tax base instead of stealing through inflation to give hand-outs to special interests?
      Treat debt like alcohol. It can be useful but incredibly destructive too. The most "telling" thing is the debt advocates who wish to steal the productivity of working Canadians to fulfill their social vision of the nanny/welfare state.

    • @nickyalousakis3851
      @nickyalousakis3851 10 месяцев назад +4

      very very well said mitch.

  • @TelosBudo
    @TelosBudo 10 месяцев назад +19

    There are less than half as many workers now per retiree, than there were when boomers were working (1 retiree for 3.4 workers now compared to 1 retiree for 7.8 workers). Middle class people need to pay higher taxes and receive less services to pay for government debt. That's on top of the 70% of social program spending going to retirees for pensions and Healthcare. Young people are getting railroaded

    • @darrylwbraun
      @darrylwbraun 10 месяцев назад +5

      Young people vote Liberal. You demand this kind of government and we ALL suffer it.

    • @TelosBudo
      @TelosBudo 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@darrylwbraun not anymore. Polls show a total collapse in support by millennials

    • @MarekWojcik-m2g
      @MarekWojcik-m2g 10 месяцев назад +1

      How about irresponsible and incompetent government most young people voted for. After working entire life paying taxes and pension premiums retirees are getting on average $780 a month in pension (CPP). This is below level in most developing and third word countries. In addition most of their life savings are disapearing due to high inflation caused by this government policies.

    • @CardiologyGuy
      @CardiologyGuy 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@MarekWojcik-m2g Can you name a single policy that this government did that contributed to "high inflation". If you're going to do the classic Con scream of "Cabon tax" I think you should know that it contributes only 1/5 th of a percent (0.15%) to inflation, i.e., for every $100 you spend it adds to about 20 cents, so you should try again.
      Also, can I see some sort of proof or example that developing and third-world countries that have a pension plan are getting more than Canadians are on a monthly basis?

    • @YesItsReallyKeith
      @YesItsReallyKeith 10 месяцев назад

      @@darrylwbraun it makes no difference !!! The government is run like a business and basically there only try to figure out how much more they can squeeze out of you regardless of the party leading the pack !!! always been that way and always will be!!!

  • @terrylee8804
    @terrylee8804 10 месяцев назад +6

    Trudeau must go, Pierre for PM!

  • @ark-L
    @ark-L 2 месяца назад +1

    Firstly, kudos to CBC for actually trying to understand the nature of govt. debt. It's a great improvement from the way these things are usually discussed.
    That said, there's a lot wrong with this video. Government debt IS NOT like household debt. Like, at all. Not because the government has a comparatively long lifespan, but because the government is the *currency issuer*. Everyone else is the *currency user*. This means that GOVERNMENT DEBT = PRIVATE WEALTH (at least the portion held in the nation's currency). If you don't understand this, you don't understand monetary operations, and every other part of your analysis will be wrong. It's depressing how deeply mistaken even otherwise smart people are on this issue.
    Interested in de-dumbing yourself on this? Do yourself a favour and go watch the documentary "Finding the Money." No excuse anymore to be mistaken about how monetary operations under sovereign fiat currency systems actually work.

  • @MCGEntertainment
    @MCGEntertainment 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hey, let's blame the Canadian population instead of internal government issues!

  • @michaelcarroll955
    @michaelcarroll955 Месяц назад +1

    This isn't the whole picture. Why aren't you mentioning private debt? Canadians have much higher nominal household debt than the rest of the developed world. This is a disaster for our economy. Do you think that cranking up public debt is a good idea when private debt is already sky-high?

  • @theshi3152
    @theshi3152 Месяц назад +1

    This is really good way of actually explaining how the Federal Debt works. its not like normal personal debt. If Servicing costs is effectively just a rounding error then its not like were actually "spending" on said debt.

  • @lance4337
    @lance4337 10 месяцев назад +3

    Corporate debt , mortgage debt and consumer debt is way too high. Pressure will blow soon .

  • @tmoenner
    @tmoenner 10 месяцев назад +4

    what's the improvements we get from taking on debt?
    doesnt that define the true value of it?

    • @theshi3152
      @theshi3152 Месяц назад

      This. Debt for a new housing development isn't the same debt as "Here you go Mr Corporation Please spend this on doing the thing we agreed you would"

  • @paulerickson6270
    @paulerickson6270 10 месяцев назад +2

    The BOC printed money and bought 450 billion in bonds. If think this is a normal economic system, then you are a fool

    • @williamjameshuggins
      @williamjameshuggins 10 месяцев назад

      the BoC BORROWED that money from Payments Canada (ie, you bank and your savings). they did not print up $450 billion and you can see as much by simply looking of the BoC's balance sheet. I'm guessing you haven't if you believe they did?

  • @MasiukA
    @MasiukA 10 месяцев назад +1

    So many things wrong with this video. Our debt is not being paid down and instead we are taking more and more debt every year. This is why inflation happens. Inflation is the result of a increase in the currency supply which is in effect, what happens when you mass borrow money.

  • @KarlDag
    @KarlDag Месяц назад +1

    Just cause other countries have it worse doesn't mean we should go down the same hole. Smh

  • @justinvanhorne8859
    @justinvanhorne8859 10 месяцев назад +1

    Coming from an outfit that does nothing but balloon the debt further. Congrats you ARE the problem bud!

  • @mydogisbailey
    @mydogisbailey 9 дней назад +1

    Andrew Chang is so hot ❤

  • @deloraprange
    @deloraprange 10 месяцев назад +5

    I love the grounded reality of this channel!!,Despite the recession, I no longer depend on Government Grants since I acquire $26,400 every 21days.

    • @JohnsonAlima
      @JohnsonAlima 10 месяцев назад

      That's great, how do I go about this ?

    • @deloraprange
      @deloraprange 10 месяцев назад

      it's all thanks to Mr Robert Marion, he's trading strategies are the best.

  • @kplaysminecraft895
    @kplaysminecraft895 10 месяцев назад +9

    Our Taxes are disgusting, both parents have to work even more than ever and our services are worse than ever. Anything the government touches turns to crap

  • @ericshang7744
    @ericshang7744 10 месяцев назад +1

    3:34 your analogy is flawed. Sure thing one can borrow 3X of income of debt, but the problem is not how big debt relative to income, the issue is one is actually paying down debt or not, or simply borrowing more than what you would pay.
    If you gradually paying down debt, that’s just normal debt. If you borrow money to pay debt, it’s pyramid.

  •  10 месяцев назад +16

    But Trudumb said the deficit would work itself out when trying to be elected as PM in the beginning.
    I guess the failed school teacher and bar bouncer didn’t know what he was talking about after all.

  • @aaronvallejo8220
    @aaronvallejo8220 10 месяцев назад +13

    Excellent information CBC! Every month I pay into RRSP for retirement and TSFA for unintended big future problems. Every year I need to be profitable to keep my household afloat. Canada, I love you...please pay down this debt through transitioning to high insulation and large scale renewables in every region.

  • @gordstevenson8545
    @gordstevenson8545 10 месяцев назад +18

    I really appreciate Andrew’s tutorials. They provide very useful context to often politically charged topics.

  • @KidGarden100
    @KidGarden100 10 месяцев назад +3

    all that debt for nothing

  • @joelmcneney5366
    @joelmcneney5366 10 месяцев назад +4

    Your kids can pay right.

    • @Alex-js5lg
      @Alex-js5lg 10 месяцев назад

      Except the birthrate is declining...

    • @masternoremac3738
      @masternoremac3738 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Alex-js5lgthanks feminism

  • @miket7749
    @miket7749 10 месяцев назад +1

    It is amazing how CBC put this spin on things when the corporation they work for is subsidized largely by the federal government. Sorry, but governments should be trying to control their out of control spending.

    • @theshi3152
      @theshi3152 Месяц назад

      less than 10% of income is pretty good. while i dont agree they should maintain a large deficit its the future that is of concern not so much the now.
      how much of your spending by % goes to a home loan or vehicle? or rent? im betting its more than 10% maybe they really aren't spending "that" much in perspective. could it be lower? should it be lower? sure. but its absolutely in control.

  • @johncasey5594
    @johncasey5594 10 месяцев назад +1

    But, but, but, before Covid, we only owed about 500-600 billion... what happened... he said sarcastically.

  • @bernie6355
    @bernie6355 10 месяцев назад +3

    The only way we can keep this debt is the GDP needs to constantly grow in a finite world. Eventually we will not be able to grow once all the resources are used up. This is one area that economist has not looked at. Once we stop growing it will all collapse on its self. I studied economics and this economist is not telling us the whole story. He is half right but he is not stating the other side. Ask yourself why we have such high immigration? To keep GDP up. I am shocked economist are not explaining this.

    • @kennordsfan1494
      @kennordsfan1494 10 месяцев назад

      A liberal shill CBC hand picked to plead more liberal lies 🤷‍♂️

    • @williamjameshuggins
      @williamjameshuggins 10 месяцев назад

      we did talk about that, but its on the cutting room floor. they interviewed me for about 20 minutes and used 60 seconds to keep the narrative tight (within 10 mins). c'est la vie

    • @MarekWojcik-m2g
      @MarekWojcik-m2g 10 месяцев назад

      William you should know better agreeing on interview with CBC.

    • @bernie6355
      @bernie6355 10 месяцев назад

      Well William I am glad you understand this. Many economist do not understand what could be heading our way. I wish this was better explained how this works.

    • @williamjameshuggins
      @williamjameshuggins 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@MarekWojcik-m2g i don't consider it a problem, just a constraint of the format.
      if you want a lot of detail and nuance, its going to take longer than 10 minutes. the short-short version is that we've had low productivity growth relative to the americans for over a generation now. if we can turn that around for the next 20 years we'll get some much needed wiggle room (its tough to do, but we're not flying blind)

  • @danwaters303
    @danwaters303 4 дня назад

    This is good but you’ve missed a key element of Canadian federal debt - the vast majority of the debt is held by Canadians as bonds and short term treasury bills. Which means that interest is paid to Canadians. Money paid to Canadians inevitably ends up almost entirely back into the Canadian economy…which ends up being collected, in part, as taxes that go to the federal government. Servicing costs are important. But so is the fact that debt servicing is paid to Canadians and helps drive the economy and support secure retirement planning.

  • @evalangley3985
    @evalangley3985 10 месяцев назад +1

    How much is too much? Well, how about 1.173T$ sounds like?

  • @tfc92221
    @tfc92221 10 месяцев назад +2

    What he also doesn’t factor in is productivity levels and economic growth
    Both Canada gdp per capita and productivity is decreasing per capita, almost every single state in America is more productive than most of our if not all of our provinces
    Combine that with higher interest rates it’s not as rosy as he makes its sound

    • @matthewsemenuk8953
      @matthewsemenuk8953 10 месяцев назад

      GDP per capita*. It just looks better leaving a word out on their statistics

    • @williamjameshuggins
      @williamjameshuggins 10 месяцев назад +1

      you guys know you can look those numbers up right? GDP per capita is up over the past 5 years (and 10 years for that matter) as is productivity over the same time frame.
      there is no attempt to conceal anything from anyone - all the data is public and audited.

  • @charlespaul6725
    @charlespaul6725 10 месяцев назад +1

    250k? Try 1 M

  • @jonfiddler6753
    @jonfiddler6753 11 дней назад

    When the government continuosly finds new ways to tax canadians at an ever higher rate you know that government is spending beyond their means. Canadian income earners are NOT a bottomless pit of earned income for government to squander on frivolous, fringe ideological policies. Government NEEDS to concentrate on CORE government services instead of pandering to special interest groups that do not speak for ALL canadians

  • @ac-uk6hs
    @ac-uk6hs 17 дней назад

    Keep voting for labor. Keep overspending to buy votes. Keep raising the cost of living.This is hilarious to watch.

  • @AceTriggerz
    @AceTriggerz 20 дней назад

    People forget that USA has a debt of 10 trillion over its annual GDP, while Canada doesnt even have a debt above its annual GDP. just something to think about. We also have to remember that when we untethered money from Gold, we effectively made it so money was just made up, we act like it will run out, or its some kind of finite resource, and it is, and it isnt at the same time. Generally when the government cuts spending to try to balance the books and what not, the people who pay for it are the most vulnerable. This is not a winning strategy.

  • @9avedon
    @9avedon Месяц назад

    Municipal property taxes have increased by 7.5% every year over the last 2 yrs and the government wants to do the same, for the next 8 years.......Prince Edward County, Ontario !
    Government workers think this is a great idea.

  • @buxvet
    @buxvet 10 месяцев назад +1

    he calls 20B problematic int? Think of this way.. its 125 Million a day, 5 million per hour 24/7/365 and its going up all the time due to debt renewal in this higher rate environment, the 46b per is forecast to riise to 62b by 2027

  • @Canucksway
    @Canucksway 2 месяца назад

    Owns most of Canada's debt?
    Canadian institutional investors
    By far, Canadian institutional investors hold most of Canada's debt. That includes insurance companies, banks, private pension funds, and government pension funds (including the Canada Pension Plan). Even the Bank of Canada holds Canadian debt. Together, they hold 76% of Canada's debt.
    Canada's federal debt per person?
    Total federal net debt per person has risen 52.6% since 2007/08 and is expected to reach $33,682 this year. Between 2019/20 and 2023/24, the combined federal-provincial debt-to-GDP ratio is expected to grow from 65.7% to 76.2%.
    Why do Canadians have so much debt?
    About a quarter of Canadians can only make their minimum credit card payments, and 22 percent are sinking further into credit debt. As of Q3 2023, we owed a collective $113.4 billion on our credit cards, an eye-popping number attributed to growing interest rates and the ever-creeping cost of living.

  • @DBeau73
    @DBeau73 2 месяца назад

    Despite paying 4% interest, yes, he's talking about rates have gone up, but they are starting to come down over the world. Still, 46 billion more in the government pocket would pay the Programs the Feds are running and more. Meaning that the average Canadian would pay 1000$ less a year in Federal taxes. But don't get me wrong, not everyone pay taxes.
    So you probably could end up cutting income tax rates. That's why I never like the NDP recently because they want to guarantee every person with 20k or tax free revenue. If you don't make 20K, they'd give you the 20K. So where will they get the money? The whole dental and health care thing was an NDP promise the previous elections also. So why are the Liberals implementing costly measures? Because they need the NDP to keep propping them up.

  • @vicgamesvt9682
    @vicgamesvt9682 Месяц назад

    The most important metric is debt to gdp as when GDP grows the economys capacity as well as the governments fiscal room expands. Canada is on track to see the gross gdp decline by 9.4% over the next 5 years and according to the IMF net debt to gdp stands at just 13%. Net debt to gdp does include the CPP and QPP however the fact that our pension funds are very well funded is a big advantage that many countries don't have. Im not trying to advocate for more reckless spending however people need to understand that the federal government is in a decent fiscal situation and austerity on a federal level would only cause more damage. Many Provincial governments and municipalities are a different story however my comment is mainly focusing on federal debt.

  • @NScaleTrainsWithChris
    @NScaleTrainsWithChris Месяц назад

    The Federal government issues currency, basically creating money. As long as we have currency sovereignty the debt number is just that, a number. It's not like someone is ever going to ask the government to pay it back. It's mostly used for political purposes.

  • @beautanner8409
    @beautanner8409 10 месяцев назад +12

    Love this guy - he keeps nailing real issues and takes them on from all sides. Quality journalism is a breath of fresh air.

    • @beautanner8409
      @beautanner8409 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@user-ec2nn6ht9r Then it's a good thing they posted it - the internet experts can come set the records straight in the comments section.

    • @CardiologyGuy
      @CardiologyGuy 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@user-ec2nn6ht9r Care to explain how he's wrong? I see you're an armchair expert and got your degree from Google, so let's hear how he's wrong

    • @CardiologyGuy
      @CardiologyGuy 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@user-ec2nn6ht9r" functioning like a real household budget." I think you might know this and are being purposely disingenuous, but two things can be similar without being the same. It's like saying Liberals and Cons are both Canadian political parties, therefore they are the same, or birds and a dragonfly both have wings so they are both birds/dragonflies.
      "A budget is a budget whether {it's} your income or government income." As he explained, a person's budget is not the same as say a corporation or a government, because a) their lifespan b) how your budget can change, i.e., people can't suddenly make more money by increasing the price of your good or increase taxes, but governments and corporations can.
      " If you need more money but can't increase your income and just print more money, you have to pay that back to the person that bought the bond, with interest." Any proof that the government is printing more money? Also, governments can increase taxes or cut spending so that right there disproves your point.
      "All the while you're creating inflation. Economics 101. Even the BOC says this." No, the BoC does not say this, or otherwise provide the resource.
      From the BoC Titled "Understanding the reasons for high inflation" -> "At the beginning of the COVID‑19 pandemic, prices for commodities like oil, natural gas and lumber plummeted. Because the economy was shut down, people had fewer opportunities to eat out or travel, so demand shifted suddenly from services to goods. But pandemic shutdowns also affected important pieces of the global supply chain, such as factories and ports. This meant that supply couldn’t keep up with all the extra demand for goods. As a result, prices surged.
      When economies reopened, prices for these commodities spiked suddenly. And because these commodities feed into so many other products and services, the ripple effect on other prices was widespread. Then Russia’s invasion of Ukraine made prices surge even more.
      In a nutshell, the following global forces combined to create a perfect storm:
      -a spike in commodity prices
      -a surge in the global demand for goods
      -impaired supply chains"
      This is a direct quote. Notice how your reasoning wasn't in there.
      From the Australian Bank:
      "More jobs and higher wages increase household incomes can lead to a rise in consumer spending, further increasing aggregate demand and the scope for firms to increase the prices of their goods and services. When this happens across a large number of businesses and sectors, this leads to an increase in inflation."

    • @beautanner8409
      @beautanner8409 10 месяцев назад

      I'd trust a journalist to have done their research more than I would a random internet post. Moreover, I've heard what he's summarizing echoed in discussions with economists in the media and in person. @@user-ec2nn6ht9r

  • @canadairishguy
    @canadairishguy 6 месяцев назад

    Funny. I could swear that you first state that a person's debt is NOTHING like government debt.
    Then you go on to compare a person's debt to government debt as an analogy for why it is acceptable.
    HILARIOUS. Hypocrites.

  • @MommaKnowsBestest
    @MommaKnowsBestest 10 месяцев назад +3

    Is Canada about to be bankrupted?

  • @steverempel8584
    @steverempel8584 2 месяца назад

    How much debt is too much for Canada?
    There's 2 answers:
    1) It doesn't matter, we can go as far into debt as we want.
    2) We are already far past acceptable debt.
    Basically, if there's a line, we've passed it long ago. The question is if there's a line or not.

  • @MaryLee-r2v
    @MaryLee-r2v 8 дней назад

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  • @John-bq9jh
    @John-bq9jh 5 месяцев назад

    No kidding. When you add retail spending as part of GDP simply take on more debt and spend and voila debt/gdp goes down. Seriously economics 101 buddy. Forget these nice new catchy acronyms. MMT. What a joke.

  • @seap9570
    @seap9570 5 месяцев назад

    I have a big issue with this presentation. You should be comparing the country as a whole. GDP is the total of government, corporate and housold. You debt calculation should include government, corporate and household debt. Which totals $10.2 Trillion. The ratio of your calculation with paint a completely different picture. The Liberal government typically only uses government dept to distoret the optics in their favor.

  • @cdnJGSL
    @cdnJGSL 10 месяцев назад

    vs 33.79 billion USD debts in the United States (i.e. ~46,273,546,550.00 CAD) majority incurred during Republican tenure, Republican = Conservatives

  • @mdegroot55
    @mdegroot55 9 месяцев назад +1

    I appreciate the efforts, news stories and Andrews presentation on this channel. The "music" is distracting and makes paying attention difficult. Most of the CBC programs are now inaccessible to me due to the background noise. Can this practice be reassessed?

  • @mrjohnhush
    @mrjohnhush 10 месяцев назад +3

    Canada's debt is way out of control, leading to inflation, higher taxes, cuts to social problems, etc., etc.

  • @joerocket1977
    @joerocket1977 4 месяца назад

    Borrowing money for social spending is insane. It only ensures suffering for future generations and austerity. Borrowing for infrastructure like a needed bridge for example is different.

  • @kenlangille9050
    @kenlangille9050 4 месяца назад

    your graph shows the debt after Pierre Trudeau & devistation after he was finished ,this why we have GST to correct this ., now we have Justin out doing his father with NDP help & now we have carbon tax

  • @Do-not-be-sheep
    @Do-not-be-sheep 10 месяцев назад

    If Canada had the world's best health care system, If Canada had a world class military, If Canada had an advanced world leading dynamic economy, If Canada ....then the debt could be justified because we would all understand that in time the debt would be paid back and it was an investment in the future. But that's not what is happening. we keep digging a deeper debt hole and our social programs, economy, and standard of living keep dropping. We have slipped to the bottom of the G20. Another 5 years of this and Mexico will surpass Canada with the second strongest economy in North America. Keep on voting for Son of Pierre and we will be there!

  • @maladictnaio5533
    @maladictnaio5533 2 месяца назад

    I love these videos so much. It is very easy to get swept up in the news of the day. These videos take a pause and explain key details and the larger picture in a very easy to digest way. I think everyone in Canada, regardless of view point, can benefit from watching these videos so that there is a common starting point to have further discussions off of.

  • @Sil-sg3yk
    @Sil-sg3yk Месяц назад

    I'm not sure how they could owe that much when we all pay through the nose on everything. Sounds like Freeland doesn't know what the hell she's doing.

  • @HansKeesom
    @HansKeesom 2 месяца назад

    Once every economic cycle a government should arrive at 0 debt. Not doing so has a long term negative effect. And the people will pay for it, in tax and inflation,

  • @PatHand-og9yd
    @PatHand-og9yd 8 месяцев назад

    The best information about Canada’s financial situation I’ve heard in a long long time! In spite of the current Polievre attack ads, I don’t think excessive politician pensions are real issue. Nor the carbon tax. Running a country is complicated. But a “downside scenario” could take Canada down. We need to be more prudent. We need to move toward a no-debt future.

  • @NicolaHartman-e6p
    @NicolaHartman-e6p 9 дней назад

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  • @gibberish5388
    @gibberish5388 Месяц назад

    The example is a 240k mortgaage? What decade is this video from?

  • @azraghaffar2613
    @azraghaffar2613 Месяц назад

    The system of interest and credit makes the richer rich and poor more poor. Money goes to the pockets of a few people and does not circulate.

  • @nuxkamina
    @nuxkamina 3 месяца назад

    We need to borrow more of our kids money. As much as we can. More government and control the better - current NDP/Liberals.

  • @lasculpteure
    @lasculpteure 6 месяцев назад

    It only hurts when they, whoever we owe, comes to collect. It will happen, and Canada will not be happy about how that affects the country. It is about choice, you don't get a lot of choice when you are in debt. In 1995 the government was forced to gut the health care system to reduce the debt. What will we lose in 5, 10 years?

  • @Kyym888
    @Kyym888 5 месяцев назад

    "No plans to reduce the debt service costs in the next 5 years." Red flag. This government should not be allowed to run the economy in the next 5 years.

  • @Raidersfan-gn7zo
    @Raidersfan-gn7zo 10 месяцев назад

    Don't talk to me about debt until the rich pay the percentage in taxes that they did from the 1930s to the late 70s early 80s! The working class has payed enough of an undemocratic price over the last 40+ years of neoliberalism! Neoliberalism has to go!!!!