I have Aguy at FS30 and never regret it. I understand your point of view if you look to pair him up with Spoison, but on the other hand it opens up a lot more team possibilities where a C2 slot action is available, like Tgen, Akuma and possibly Passive lockable bosses with Zang.
I mean if you run him on the right teams it's not a problem. That whole bit was basically to bring attention to the fact you can cancel cammy and bjuris trigger and if that's deliberate (it's not they just suck at coding) then we should be able to cancel triggers across the board
@@Darth_Wesker_Tri-Cell RNG stands for Random Number Generator, which typically refers to a coding technique used in video games that helps keep a player’s gaming experience fresh and unpredictable. It’s also become something of a slang term for “luck”.
You only use him for his c3. Read his kit 😂 Every time the enemy takes dmg in the flame wall he gets better. He is the most poorly designed character in the game, they didn't consider just how much dmg he could end up doing
After looking at this tier list It's surprising that only one of the pay to play champions is worth having. What's the incentive to whale when the game is clearly this f2p friendly?
If all the OP units were pay to win then that would make f2p players quit the game. It's hard enough to compete as a f2p already. Giving only paying players OP characters then what would be the point of f2p even playing anymore. You might ask, who cares if f2p and low spenders quit. Well whales and spenders want someone they can beat that's one of the main reasons why they spend because it makes them more powerful than other players especially against f2p. So if all f2p quit and they are only fighting vs other whales then they won't win as often and then even the whales will say why am i spending if I'm not winning so they will spend less also and possibly quit the game because they hate losing that much. So its important to keep f2p players happy.
So my Trendy Akuma has entered platinum. When can I effectively use him before he needs more juice? Also since they’ve been there from the start and we’re constantly getting new characters, is it worth piling on OG Bison and OG Viper with red rocks from lvl 80 to 100
Is there anyway to make Makoto tank useful in a team? Any team recommendations? I like the character so much, it just sucks that she is a bad unit imo.
You are way wrong on Agent Viper Hay. With the right team she can do good to very good boss damage, she is awesome to advance chapters fights, she is a super assist to Viper and she can be very good on pvp with a correct team that gives speed and survivability.
I'm of the opinion that if you jump around on units you will just end up with a bunch of half finished units because there will end up being something else you want to hop to. So I'd say finish honda
Imho is always better to finish what you started... if not you might get the next fighter to SS aswell, then another great fighter appears and the same thing will repeat.. leaving your account with a bunch of "unfinished" projects/fighters.
1) Dude, first and foremost with the same analogy you used for Luke, then Trendy Akuma should not be on the SS tier, even worst at #1.. I have a SSS 6/6 cars and FS30 T akuma, and i barely use him sometimes on a team for story mode or wind tower and sometimes at Shadoloo city when theres a weird combination of factions allowed like "wind,legendary and thunder"( if infernal is allowed, no matter the other 2 faction options, the Vvegas, Obison, oni etc will be my carries to comple Shadoloo city satsui mode).. T akuma is nieche aswell as you mentioned for luke... you dont or rarely see T akumas on bosses(even if they built him.. cause i think even OG guile,og viper, og dhalsim with no soul power have more damage potential).. and at showdown people who have vvega, obison, Leo and even a built virgil.. are NOT using or planning to build T akuma... In my opinion T akuma belongs to " A tier" right next to T guile and vegcammy.. 2)Leo should deff be in front of Oni, the fact that can buff himself with crit+attack and ignore damage inmmunity after getting enough blade stacks, should immediately make leo one of the Top tiers on the SS tier.. I got a oni SSS 5 stars, Fs30, 30/6 cars, SP lvl 100.. he used to be one of my bossing teams Along with gouken,mken and div rose... i replaced him with a SSS 5 stars, Fs30, 6/6 cars, SP lvl 100 leo and i was immediately doing more damage with that team... after i also got to SSS 5 stars, FS30, 6/6 cars and SP lvl 80-100 Don, mikey and ralph... i was obv doing even more damage with the full TMNT team.... so i completely got rid of my old Oni bossing team( i also got rid of my Oni+eryu+gouken+div rose/A chun in showdown... while the tmnt team brings me wins against opponets best teams like og bison+eryu+bzang+achun or other teams other than vvega+bzang+achun+abel/gouken or obison+rhonda+t ryu+ s elena).. Currently all my turtles are SSS 5 stars, FS30, SP LVL 100 and 12 or more/ 6 cars... Leo being the one who has more car dupes 27/6. Before dripson arrived, my tmnt team was easily my 2nd best bossing team(even better than my Vvega,gouken,T ryu and S elena bossing team) after obv the F adon team.. 3)Donnie should be in front of Div Rose 4)mikey should be in front of W hugo if not close to or in front of Gouken... Mikeys super is almost a counter to R honda super, since it gives your whole team damage reduction buff, his c2 does damage reduction debuff on the boss/opposing team, and a fully build mikey, in my opinion is even harder to kill than gouken.. is true that gouken has his shields that he gives to your team, but on a full tmnt team you dont need gouken shields with Don on the team... even don on a different team other than Tmnt, can provide some of what gouken offers + healing your team+ saving your team from fatal damage once per battle.
@@Hayzinkalright, i had not watched your other recent tier list before this one( prolly missed 1 or 2 tier list before this one). Still T akuma has no business on SS tier.. he belongs to "A tier". And completely agree on obison being superior than vvega... OBison with his meta team in showdown, slaps 24/7 vvega teams. And now even in bossing my obison team+dante+div rose+mhken/w hugo/og bison etc, has become my 2nd best bossing team.. Just today on the dan+blanka boss, i did: 7 bill with F adon team, 3 bill with obison team(on a prior run, with a low score on the F adon team), 2.2 bill on my current best total damage run. 1.5 bill with vvega team, 1.6 bill with TMNT team Current personal best total damage 12 bill. So yes, obison is superior than Vvega.
Hey Hay, im a f2p player, i was thinking go to LUKE for PVP, i have 400 tickets, i should go for him? I already have Honda, OBison and Vega. I don't know whether to wait for the next hero or go for it and put it on team 3. my compositions: team 1: Vvega (SC + C3), Bzang- (C2) , A chunli (C1), Abel (to just provide passive Shiel) team 2: OBison(C3), R.Honda(SC+C2), Elena(C1), Honda (i dont have T.ryu) team 3 - Should be : S. Elena (trigger) Luke (SC+C3) , S.Abel (C1), Gouken(C2) OR Elena (trigger) Luke (SC+C2) , Oni (C3), Gouken(C1) What you think especifically options for team 3, justify go for Luke? It would be to beat the turtles team from top 1 in my Server.
Dude oni+luke makes no sense... sadly Oni has been power crept... And unlike leo, oni Really needs to do booth super and C3, in order for oni to pop off and do heavy damage.. Leo on the other hand, with a trigger fighter such as ralph, s ibuki,mhken, E ryu etc.. can help him get his sword stacks, so leo is fine doing just C3.. it will just take him a bit longer to reach full stacks that allow him to ignore damage immunity, but he deff gets there in around 2 full combo cycles.. Oni on the other hand does not have that privilege of only doing his c3, to deal absurd damage... Same can be said of Vvega, he deals decent damage with his c3 alone... but vvega super +c3 is what actually makes him a NUKE..
@@AkumaClaps Thanks for bringing your point of view. You're right, Oni only works with SC and C3 both, I was just thinking about possibilities with Luke on the field on the same team. But I've already given up on summoning him, it's not worth it, I'm f2p and it takes a long time to gather the tickets, now i have 400 saved. I'll wait for the next one DPS that can replace my Oni in team 3 , because I can't beat the turtle teams, they block the Oni's C3 damage unfortunatelly.
I still have bad feelings about Agent Viper, but NGL in mid-40’s story mode, she’s actually enabled me to clear stages in ch 43 that I shouldn’t be able to
Thats because you prolly havent SSS and soul power dante yet... I started using Dante on a bossing lineup with overlord bison.. and dante is a BEAST support, he debuffs the bosses defense with his super, refills the combo bar when he transform from demon back to human form.. Giving your team more energy to spam combos and deal tons of damage. Also dante buffing himself with dodge, allows him to have high survival on the fight vs boss, allowing him to keep doing everything he does for most if not all of the fight.
From alot of gameplay he is good in various places. From his damage output for stages, pvp, bossing, his burn Debuff, he's pretty useful early game. He got me to 21-40
@@Hayzink I only use Adon with flame folks, hehe. Akuma, I use basically all the time. To get the most outta him one has to use his Super and his C2 in the same run. Also being f2p I don't have Flame Chun-Li.
Merc f chun get a friend that give her to you each week I'm f2p and a top 20ish player on my battle zone I'm using A Rhonda SC, s poison C1, f chun C2, fAdon C3 I still dont get why but all together you just can't beat it. For events that you can't use f chun sub Rose, og Zang, guy, Aguy or (abel)s are my go-tos there are a few boss battles that f chun doesn't work but the team remains@@Darth_Wesker_Tri-Cell
I have Aguy at FS30 and never regret it. I understand your point of view if you look to pair him up with Spoison, but on the other hand it opens up a lot more team possibilities where a C2 slot action is available, like Tgen, Akuma and possibly Passive lockable bosses with Zang.
I mean if you run him on the right teams it's not a problem.
That whole bit was basically to bring attention to the fact you can cancel cammy and bjuris trigger and if that's deliberate (it's not they just suck at coding) then we should be able to cancel triggers across the board
@@Hayzink A-up mate 🥰! What's RNG stand for? I've been meaning to ask ever since I started watchin' ye vids months ago but kept forgetting, lol.
Randomness@@Darth_Wesker_Tri-Cell
@@Darth_Wesker_Tri-Cell Random Number Generator
@@Darth_Wesker_Tri-Cell RNG stands for Random Number Generator, which typically refers to a coding technique used in video games that helps keep a player’s gaming experience fresh and unpredictable. It’s also become something of a slang term for “luck”.
dang man i feel like just passing on luke and waiting for Jamie drop 😂
I borrowed someone’s Fire Adon….. Bro that flame carpet he leaves behind after he does his single/AOE is so damn good I can’t wait to use mine
You only use him for his c3.
Read his kit 😂
Every time the enemy takes dmg in the flame wall he gets better.
He is the most poorly designed character in the game, they didn't consider just how much dmg he could end up doing
Since I discovered F Adon, I built my main pve team around him. He absolutely destroys teams as the flame ticks damage over time.
Very well justification, 💯 spot on. Can't agree more to what you have said.
After looking at this tier list It's surprising that only one of the pay to play champions is worth having. What's the incentive to whale when the game is clearly this f2p friendly?
If all the OP units were pay to win then that would make f2p players quit the game. It's hard enough to compete as a f2p already. Giving only paying players OP characters then what would be the point of f2p even playing anymore. You might ask, who cares if f2p and low spenders quit. Well whales and spenders want someone they can beat that's one of the main reasons why they spend because it makes them more powerful than other players especially against f2p. So if all f2p quit and they are only fighting vs other whales then they won't win as often and then even the whales will say why am i spending if I'm not winning so they will spend less also and possibly quit the game because they hate losing that much. So its important to keep f2p players happy.
Invictus is Legendary
Any recommendations on making a team around OBison without VVega and Rhonda?
So my Trendy Akuma has entered platinum. When can I effectively use him before he needs more juice? Also since they’ve been there from the start and we’re constantly getting new characters, is it worth piling on OG Bison and OG Viper with red rocks from lvl 80 to 100
Yes. OG Bison & OG Viper are still excellent units that are very strong, and work well in, both, PvE and PvP. 👍🏻
So would you say that i should skip luke's banner and just focus on getting more overlord bison copies instead?
Yes
@@Hayzink I'll do that then! Thanks =)
Yesterday I posted a few over 1 and a half billion runs. On Auto, 🤯😇!
You forgot Archon D. Where would you put her?
am I crazy or theres no purple decapre in this list ?
Is futuristic-glasses/butt-shot Decapre on your list? I spent a ton of resources trying to level her.
You also forgot Archon decapre
Dammit every time without fail I forget a unit
Is there anyway to make Makoto tank useful in a team? Any team recommendations? I like the character so much, it just sucks that she is a bad unit imo.
So hard to keep up with, but did we miss Butt Floss Decapre?
Yup wouldn't be one of my lists if I didn't forget someone
You are way wrong on Agent Viper Hay. With the right team she can do good to very good boss damage, she is awesome to advance chapters fights, she is a super assist to Viper and she can be very good on pvp with a correct team that gives speed and survivability.
Where the new decapre at?
Fyi I think Nero stonks have gone up with o bison.
Thanks
Is it worth to stop my R honda at SS and go full for O Bison? Or just finish honda before that?
I'm of the opinion that if you jump around on units you will just end up with a bunch of half finished units because there will end up being something else you want to hop to.
So I'd say finish honda
Imho is always better to finish what you started... if not you might get the next fighter to SS aswell, then another great fighter appears and the same thing will repeat.. leaving your account with a bunch of "unfinished" projects/fighters.
1) Dude, first and foremost with the same analogy you used for Luke, then Trendy Akuma should not be on the SS tier, even worst at #1..
I have a SSS 6/6 cars and FS30 T akuma, and i barely use him sometimes on a team for story mode or wind tower and sometimes at Shadoloo city when theres a weird combination of factions allowed like "wind,legendary and thunder"( if infernal is allowed, no matter the other 2 faction options, the Vvegas, Obison, oni etc will be my carries to comple Shadoloo city satsui mode).. T akuma is nieche aswell as you mentioned for luke... you dont or rarely see T akumas on bosses(even if they built him.. cause i think even OG guile,og viper, og dhalsim with no soul power have more damage potential)..
and at showdown people who have vvega, obison, Leo and even a built virgil.. are NOT using or planning to build T akuma...
In my opinion T akuma belongs to " A tier" right next to T guile and vegcammy..
2)Leo should deff be in front of Oni, the fact that can buff himself with crit+attack and ignore damage inmmunity after getting enough blade stacks, should immediately make leo one of the Top tiers on the SS tier..
I got a oni SSS 5 stars, Fs30, 30/6 cars, SP lvl 100.. he used to be one of my bossing teams Along with gouken,mken and div rose... i replaced him with a SSS 5 stars, Fs30, 6/6 cars, SP lvl 100 leo and i was immediately doing more damage with that team...
after i also got to SSS 5 stars, FS30, 6/6 cars and SP lvl 80-100 Don, mikey and ralph... i was obv doing even more damage with the full TMNT team.... so i completely got rid of my old Oni bossing team( i also got rid of my Oni+eryu+gouken+div rose/A chun in showdown... while the tmnt team brings me wins against opponets best teams like og bison+eryu+bzang+achun or other teams other than vvega+bzang+achun+abel/gouken or obison+rhonda+t ryu+ s elena)..
Currently all my turtles are SSS 5 stars, FS30, SP LVL 100 and 12 or more/ 6 cars... Leo being the one who has more car dupes 27/6.
Before dripson arrived, my tmnt team was easily my 2nd best bossing team(even better than my Vvega,gouken,T ryu and S elena bossing team) after obv the F adon team..
3)Donnie should be in front of Div Rose
4)mikey should be in front of W hugo if not close to or in front of Gouken... Mikeys super is almost a counter to R honda super, since it gives your whole team damage reduction buff, his c2 does damage reduction debuff on the boss/opposing team, and a fully build mikey, in my opinion is even harder to kill than gouken.. is true that gouken has his shields that he gives to your team, but on a full tmnt team you dont need gouken shields with Don on the team... even don on a different team other than Tmnt, can provide some of what gouken offers + healing your team+ saving your team from fatal damage once per battle.
The characters are not in order on the tier I've said this loads of times before.
I only did that with obison today to trigger Vega fans 😂
@@Hayzinkalright, i had not watched your other recent tier list before this one( prolly missed 1 or 2 tier list before this one).
Still T akuma has no business on SS tier.. he belongs to "A tier".
And completely agree on obison being superior than vvega...
OBison with his meta team in showdown, slaps 24/7 vvega teams.
And now even in bossing my obison team+dante+div rose+mhken/w hugo/og bison etc, has become my 2nd best bossing team..
Just today on the dan+blanka boss, i did:
7 bill with F adon team,
3 bill with obison team(on a prior run, with a low score on the F adon team), 2.2 bill on my current best total damage run.
1.5 bill with vvega team,
1.6 bill with TMNT team
Current personal best total damage 12 bill.
So yes, obison is superior than Vvega.
Hey Hay, im a f2p player, i was thinking go to LUKE for PVP, i have 400 tickets, i should go for him? I already have Honda, OBison and Vega. I don't know whether to wait for the next hero or go for it and put it on team 3.
my compositions:
team 1: Vvega (SC + C3), Bzang- (C2) , A chunli (C1), Abel (to just provide passive Shiel)
team 2: OBison(C3), R.Honda(SC+C2), Elena(C1), Honda (i dont have T.ryu)
team 3 - Should be : S. Elena (trigger) Luke (SC+C3) , S.Abel (C1), Gouken(C2)
OR Elena (trigger) Luke (SC+C2) , Oni (C3), Gouken(C1)
What you think especifically options for team 3, justify go for Luke? It would be to beat the turtles team from top 1 in my Server.
No go for Vega or obison
Dude oni+luke makes no sense... sadly Oni has been power crept...
And unlike leo, oni Really needs to do booth super and C3, in order for oni to pop off and do heavy damage..
Leo on the other hand, with a trigger fighter such as ralph, s ibuki,mhken, E ryu etc.. can help him get his sword stacks, so leo is fine doing just C3.. it will just take him a bit longer to reach full stacks that allow him to ignore damage immunity, but he deff gets there in around 2 full combo cycles..
Oni on the other hand does not have that privilege of only doing his c3, to deal absurd damage...
Same can be said of Vvega, he deals decent damage with his c3 alone... but vvega super +c3 is what actually makes him a NUKE..
@@AkumaClaps Thanks for bringing your point of view. You're right, Oni only works with SC and C3 both, I was just thinking about possibilities with Luke on the field on the same team. But I've already given up on summoning him, it's not worth it, I'm f2p and it takes a long time to gather the tickets, now i have 400 saved.
I'll wait for the next one DPS that can replace my Oni in team 3 , because I can't beat the turtle teams, they block the Oni's C3 damage unfortunatelly.
I still have bad feelings about Agent Viper, but NGL in mid-40’s story mode, she’s actually enabled me to clear stages in ch 43 that I shouldn’t be able to
As a support I get it but putting Dante over regular bison doesn't seem right.
Hey least I made him the thumbnail
Thats because you prolly havent SSS and soul power dante yet...
I started using Dante on a bossing lineup with overlord bison.. and dante is a BEAST support, he debuffs the bosses defense with his super, refills the combo bar when he transform from demon back to human form..
Giving your team more energy to spam combos and deal tons of damage.
Also dante buffing himself with dodge, allows him to have high survival on the fight vs boss, allowing him to keep doing everything he does for most if not all of the fight.
@@AkumaClaps thanks for the info
Ive not played the game since MH ken was the new unit but this list is BS
Rufus is tier SSS easy.
His accent fell out with the filling
Thumbs up
Luke is ss for sure
why is fire adon up there ?!
From alot of gameplay he is good in various places. From his damage output for stages, pvp, bossing, his burn Debuff, he's pretty useful early game. He got me to 21-40
@@Michelle-hz2rjplus he pairs well with Rhonda and flame chun Lee, top tier for almost everything. Mostly bossing.
He is the highest dmg dealing unit in the game in bossing
@@Hayzink I only use Adon with flame folks, hehe. Akuma, I use basically all the time. To get the most outta him one has to use his Super and his C2 in the same run. Also being f2p I don't have Flame Chun-Li.
Merc f chun get a friend that give her to you each week I'm f2p and a top 20ish player on my battle zone I'm using A Rhonda SC, s poison C1, f chun C2, fAdon C3 I still dont get why but all together you just can't beat it. For events that you can't use f chun sub Rose, og Zang, guy, Aguy or (abel)s are my go-tos there are a few boss battles that f chun doesn't work but the team remains@@Darth_Wesker_Tri-Cell