Btw for anyone wondering. the reason the voting is centered in this season is because the director wanted to show players fighting each other when the cause of the fight is the system in the first place. Just like in real life.
there's bi choreography like the history of dalgona candy an old guy blowing it and another with kids jumping the boxes. it felt like the budget fell off than in first season it just doesn't make sense, all the characters were so boring here, we had chad doctor a gangster a psychotic hag, and the some experts that have some knowledge of the props used in the games like the glass factory worker. its all so bland here and it just shows the fraud journalism today, they just overhype everything unnecessarily.
Even though it’s not talked about, I actually really love that 001 is directly integrated to the main group and that his actions become gradually more violent and cruel as the show goes on to build up the betrayal.
@@irvinnorris7041 they literally showed him with his mask off watching red light green light like 10 minutes before he shows up in the voting session lol
also i'm surprised that you didn't talk about player 001 ( the frontman) like i know this season its far from tv perfection but i found his dynamic with gihun really interesting also him being in the games was cool,, i agree about the boat storyline that one felt really boring
Idk, I kinda feel like you misunderstood the entire season. Was it as groundbreaking as s1, no. But it showed us a more behind the scenes story of the guards and how they operate, the frontman proving to player 456 that the players are no different than what the games are trying to prove about society, and mingle was a really great game. It showed how ruthless the players can actually get, and the death of one of the key characters was so impactful with her crying “unnie” as her last word. And the voting added so much more depth and insight to the players. I get that it was also a pretty slow start, but once the season got going, it was so entertaining
I think the problem is that it feels like they covered this in season 1. They had a vote, disbanded the games, and players still chose to return. They also had a plotline where players tried to kill players at night to raise the prize money. Given that, it doesn't really make sense why he thought he could convince people to end the games.
I love the votes it really showed it's not as simple as saying "let's all work together" people are greedy and they are a great chance for characters to show their true intent.
@hahaReaper yeah he was sad about how the social commentary of the first season was glossed over and then decided to completely disregard this social commentary of the second season when it was made so obvious.
As soon as he joins the show he turns into a baby? Bro he's literally alone and his tooth chip is gone, and on top of that HE'S TRAUMATIZED!!!???? like it only shows basic human emotions , trying to be hero, trying to save people, trying to revenge and also beong traumatized being in the same horrible place again. I think they did so well in the acting department, every actor actually
that's what I was thinking that as he returned and found out that the GPS is gone, trauma response kicked in. Especially since the first game and sleeping room are the same.
Right. Like he does in fact try to keep warning people how these games work, and has to learn the unfortunate lesson that some people don’t want to be saved. It’s him trying to hold onto what he can of his own humanity and the humanity of those around him. It’s baffling to look at him and think he’s the same as season 1 or that he goes through no change in season 2
@@platinumrjaythe people complaining and the ones who don’t see past the screen are low key proving the shows whole point. (They don’t care for the morals. They only care for the entertainment or money)
Thanos' rap is funny because he tries to play it cool throwing some random English words here and there and sometimes mixes them with Korean. If you watch the show dubbed in English ofc you'd miss it, since it's your native tongue.
@lexa2310I think it’s cringe to millennials and older, Gen Z except for a few odd ones out are loving him 😂 or have a love/hate relationship with him. Cuz he’s actually funny asf despite being a jerk
@@kaliyahc9171Im a millennial and I loved his characters...I mean he was a bit cringe but his character was supposed to be xD that's what made it funny~ I might also be a bit biased though cause I've been a fan of him since 2008 😂
The show is so good that I didn't even notice 7 eps going by. The actual mindset of someone wanting to be a HERO to save everyone but was willing to change to sacrifice a small number of people at the end of ep7. The contrast of the games changing the main character thinking he can save everyone when in fact he ONLY wants to save his inner circle or people in X or people who listen to him.
If that was truly the case, why was he still against killing the O's? His intention was never to save everyone or anyone in particular. He simply was blinded with rage and wished to end the games. And when his plan fell apart, he was left to participate in just the same manner as the other victims. Even more so, as he has been manipulated AGAIN by someone who has came to trust. Just felt it was unfair to say he only cared for his people, when in reality he ultimately his only care was to stop the people who hurt him. Revenge.
I think it’s not so much he wants to only protect his inner circle but that he’s spend 3 years growing a hatred inside of the people running it. He’s so angry and hatful of them for his mother and friends death, as well as the death of his happy go lucky nature, that he will do anything to end the games, or rather, take revenge on those who have wronged him. Sure he needs help to do this but I honestly think he’s so clouded by that hatred that he will do anything to end it. He literally even gambled with his own life right in the first episode playing Russian roulette
@@deviouschimp4663i agree. I feel he went back to his season 1 mode where he now knows no matter what he does, he can’t save everyone no matter how much he wants to. He is in survival mode like everyone else is. It is sad that this game is war where some people have to be collateral in order to save hundreds more. His goal into this is ending the games. His goal coming out is ending the games. Some talk about the ex-marine guy dealing with PTSD at the end of ep. 7. But before we talk about Gi-hun’a lack of development, he is dealing with PTSD too. Squid Games shaped his whole world view which parallels inho’s world view. I feel gi-hun has some hope and optimism, but with a realistic view point. In-ho is completely cynical and has no faith in humanity, but is still intrigued by gi-hun’s world view.
Sameee!!! I also think many people had such unrealistic expectations about s2! It’s obviously about an entirely different theme and situation than s1 obviously its not the same!! S2 just sets the stage for S3.
Sub first, dub on rewatch if it's worth watching twice. Rarely some anime will have just as great dub, Dandadan being fresh in my mind. Also, boob bot, and comment copied from Juanico
thats really stupid honestly- if you dont understand korean you dont actually know what they are saying so you are 100% assuming what you are hearing is best for the scene. listen to sub, no one cares, but if the ppl making the show cant make a good dub thats on the show/re casters, not dub as a whole. and i think its smart to use dub online since many ppl watch youtube passively, so to have the language change every scene hes showing means undivided attention, which means less ppl finishing the vid, which means less money hes earning
@MrBelles104 When it comes to anything animated in your non-native tongue, watch an episode of both and make a decision. You'd be surprised how often your preference swaps.
@@kaspas5511 Exactly it is a freaking script, believing that dub voice actors can't reenact that emotion is just dumb. Maybe squid game is not the best example but I rarely see the difference, the actors body language is the easiest tell on the emotion the actor is sharing. The only downside is it might not be word for word.
Feels very bizarre to not mention that the Front Man was masquerading as a contestant to try to prove to Gi-Hun his whole idea of "sacrifice the few to save the many" which Gi-Hun later does himself when he lets many of the leave voters die to the stay voters before taking the guns. Front Man's presence as a contestant is a driving force of the plot this season and it is completely omitted from this video...
right, I watching the minutes passing by with no mention of one of the best characters, the frontman. I think Alex just didn't realize the frontman and player 001 are the same person
Did u watch it eng dubbed??? Thanos isn’t cringy with the original language. Most people actually liked that character even though he was "the bad guy"
Wait he was what??? Him speaking Korean and still rapping his cringy sh*it in English made it even worse!! I stopped watching zhe show twice because he was so poorly written as a character…🥲. Still finished in the end though, so….idk….best moment was when he died, so fulfilling
I implore you to rewatch the entire series subbed instead of English dub. The delivery is just so much better and the English dub is heavily memed on for not living up to that and sounding super corny at times.
I watched Season 2 twice, once in dub, and once in sub. The dub is not as bad as you guys think, but anyways, Alex literally missed the point of the series. Disappointing but oh well it's not for him!
Y’all don’t understand how that makes a show objectively bad, but I don’t blame you watch sh*t in disguise from all these studios ya don’t really know what a good show is
"When season one came out, I liked it alot" (Goes to Alex Meyers video library) (searches Squid Game) (sees that he called the first season dumb) Yup, you sure liked it a lot
Thank you! I started this video, and when he said he didn't really like season 2, but he made a video to season 1, I was like "Did I watch that?" So looked at that video, and was complaining the whole time, because he didn't get season 1. Now looking at this video, and he doesn't get season 2, all I can say is, Squid Game is not for Alex, cause he is wrong on so many aspects for both seasons.
Season 1 was about the players vs. the game Season 2 was about the players vs. each other It's like the frontman was trying to show Gi-Hun that the games are actually what these people want, not something that's forced on them.
So first season is class wars, second season is culture war (IE the lack of class solidarity facilitated by capitalist ideology), so third season will probably be the author's proposed solution.
The main reason this season might feel “incomplete” as one would say is because this season was clearly a “Part 1” situation hence why it ended on such a cliffhanger and Season 3 which is coming this year will be a “Part 2” where we’ll get a lot more closure with like the Pink Guard girl and Player 246 stuff, and the stuff with the detective and his crew, and the end of the games as we were only in the middle of them by the end of the season
I finally got to someone pointing out the season ended with a cliffhanger with nothing getting resolved. Yet. Thanks, internet stranger. I was really surprised that, all throughout the video, Alex never acknowledged that there was another season coming that should hopefully tie up the loose ends in S2.
Why did they have to split the season though? It looks like they filmed it all back to back and it's normal for K-dramas to run for 10+ episodes. It would have been so much better to have a full 16 episode season to have instant gratification rather than have the feeling of being rugpulled right when it's getting good. I suppose Netflix just wanted to milk it a little more before it reaches it's definitive end.
@ yeah I think the reason they split it is because damn near everyone forgot that squid game even existed 💀 Like I only found out that the new season came like a week it was released and it took me a little while to get back into, and I think there’s definitely others who were the same so splitting it up into two parts builds anticipation for the finale, which is really smart considering it’s coming out this year
To be fair, when the games started he realized something was wrong, checked his tooth and realized all he went through was for naught. They covered that really well
The main character being a whimp and not an amazing fighter is kind of the point of his character, he's just a normal guy who got involved in the game, he's not a super op main char he's just a poor guy that earned 46 or sm billion money
@@londonbordeaux that is wat is troubling.. he's a whimp and then decides to take on an army of guards most of whom are sharp shooters, with 4-5 people..
@@emmii3259 yeah, that's kinda the whole point. This ain't avengers. He really was passionate about revenge and all, but as soon as he entered the games everything changed. He was alone, he knew his only chance was when he acted with the few people. He was foolish, that's what makes him and others human. I really loved this plot
@@ChatPOPPAT that's not my point, but yes, i hated his plan so much it doesn't even make sense, my point was these youtube reactors always expect so much from him when we all know he's not that smart to begin with.
i completely disagree that gi hun didnt grow or change. he definitely grew and his moves were much more calculated than in the first game. i do think he made a lot of mistakes still but he is literally unwillingly reliving his trauma so i think mistakes are warranted.
I was so upset to learn how many years had gone by and no contact with his daughter. He had the chance to see her and then go back to handle his business and didn’t….they knew who she was anyway, if they were going to do something to her they would have already done it. He either needed to be really vocal or shut up altogether during the games, and when he decided to sacrifice the leave contestants to get the chance for guns😭😭 he should have told them to prepare themselves and he could have killed a bunch of the stay people and just voted to leave 😭😭😭 and if people wanted to come back they would just like the first season….and he could handle it then, not with a bunch of people who at that point had no choice but to stay and play because of majority vote
@@MiaLeeJane nah it makes sense why he didn't go see his daughter. He has intense feelings of shame and guilt from the games. He is trying to redeem himself by doing something to end the games. I relate to him on that. Something happened to me when I was younger and I literally ghosted everyone I knew for 2 years. I wanted to call my mom, I wanted to go back home, I just couldn't do it. I needed to sort things out first before I could face them. Shame and guilt is powerful. Even if it's not your fault you still carry it. Plus trauma is a lot to deal with. Sometimes you know you can only deal with the pain and you can't put on a happy face so your family won't worry about you and you don't want to have to bring more people into your problems. It seems like you just ignored everything that Gi Hun went through in the first season and blame him for not seeing his daughter. That call he made to her was heartbreaking. I've been exactly where he is in that moment.
@@Freya1412And all his shame and guilt completely blinded him. His whole plan to take down the games was futile and doomed from the start. There was no way that he would succeed in attacking the soldiers since logistically he had less soldiers, ammunition and guns. He didn’t actually grow at all, he became worse and he should be blamed for his actions because he had shame and guilt and let it get in the way of proper planning and decision making.
@@MiaLeeJanethe entire premise of season 2 is this is what he did instead of going back to his daughter. Because he wants to save the world. And we all knew that would be the premise when the first season ended.
Alex: "nOThiNg FRiCkiN hAPpeNS!" The things that did happened: • Gi hun partnering up with detective guy • Gi Hun goes back into the games • No Eul is revealed to be working as a guard • Gi hun managing to save a lot of people and shows his leadership and courage • the introduction of new characters • The Revelation that The Front man is also going to be playing in the games • more information about the front man/player 001 • the introduction of the new games and where the new players show off their skillset (Like Gi hun's team and player 120) • that the captain of the boat is a traitor. • Showing the more rotten side of humanity that is so frustrating yet so true, like something small like the superficial pompous young adults to the greedy selfish players. • The rivalry with the X and the Os • Thanos's death which sparks the lights out massacre 2
ill have to solely disagree with the first part, Gihun is trying to save them all, fist-fighting and yelling at them to just listen to him, one guy, isnt going to work. Not to mention the games are purposefully going against him and stewing everyone else's anger lol
Watching it in english dubbed is not even close to the same thing as watching it in korean with subtitles. That is why people are saying the characters are obnoxious or cringe. The ignorance is getting out of hand
bro alex litteraly doesnt do foreign movies cuz of thhis specifically, he cant do sub for these vids cuz people at read at different paces and the joke delivery wont be on time, the only reason he did squid gamevs cuz its so massive, he isnt ignorant YOU are cuz you dont know how much efforts he put just to make the jokes perfect
So the critic is simultaneously "the audience was stupid for letting the social commentary fly over their head and only wanting more games" and "there were not enough games"? Also, yes, the voting IS super important as a part of the social commentary. The repeated voting fortifies them into two factions: O or X. They are not just choosing individually but becoming a two-party clash. The discussions during the voting become a mind game. The voting displays democracy itself as a cynical game. Also, while you say there are more annoying I say there are more likable characters, Gihuns friend and the marine, the trans girl and her friend, mother and son, shy boy Minsu and even Thanos is hilarious, come on, he's one the best characters of the whole show.
@@kelnrey and the complaint that the marine/police/military guys, in the boat, are boring to watch is so stupid, because we barely see them, like only a couple minutes per episode, and in their one longer scene stuff is literally happening, they set off booby traps, one of them dies, showing that squid game's makers took precautions against people searching for them, and setting up the boat's captain betrayal
The voting also shows us, just show far people will go for money. The players end up acting just like how the vips expect them to, like desperate people for money. The fact that they choose to do it, is what makes the voting so critical and the suspense of not knowing what comes next
nope, the police stuff was boring and went nowhere is the correct take. We already knew that the team was compromised from the start, since they were shot down following the limo, and the tracker was removed. So it was a bunch of scenes that went to an inevitable conclusion, a failed mission and reveal of traitor. Instead of dealing with where the leak is as a plot, they actually act like there's no problem, and continue sailing around until they get blowed up. Dumb. Then there's the hours of the organ harvesting subplot. They killed off those "turning the game into their own profit" in S1, with the exact same subplot. Only to bring it right back, this time including the blacksquare. At least last time, there was a player getting info, and that helped move the story along. This time, it what? Got the girl involved in like 4 total scenes? This season felt 10 episodes long, with story for 4. I was so bored from episode 1 all the way through episode 7 (where I differ from Alex). At least nothing was resolved, so we have that to dwell on.
@@silviarr5629 I think he might think that they're getting nothing done because we get so much content in the game so you think a lot of time passed and that they should get something done in that time, but actually just a few days passed. If you're trying to find the location of a hidden organisation that had been hidden for 50 years or something I'm sure it won't be the easiest...
The season starts with the social commentary of "Gamblers Fallacy", where people decide to choose the lottery card instead of the bread showing how people just keep wanting "ONE MORE GAME" which they believe they are gonna win, but leads to nothing which is exactly why the voting is a important part of this season....PEOPLE KEEP WANTING TO HAVE ONE MORE GAME! even though most people have recieved enough money!
Except is a show all that great if it only works once you get the latter half? Great shows are good all the way through. They can leave it on a cliffhanger, but if the only point to watch season 2 is so you can have a great season 3 experience, it just falls flat Is avatar the last airbender only great if you watch all 3 books? Or is each book good enough on its own? Even if it was initially supposed to be 1 season and not two parts, why must the first half feel like a drag to get through in order to get to the second half?
Not mentioning the frontman feels disingenuous, unless you didn't realize that he is player 001. Also you cannot say that the audience is stupid because they only want games, and the social commentary flew over their heads, and then turn around and say that you wanted more games and the voting is unnecessary. The voting is part of the commentary.
Ok, to be fair to Alex. The games were very cool and creative, so it makes sense to want to see more and how they (could) tie it into the overarching message. Secondly, the voting was cool, and yes, it did tie into the message, It just dragged on for too long. If it had been just one episode or maybe at most two episodes long, little to no one would be complaining, but 3 episodes worth of voting that all don't further the plot past the initial vote was very boring. I still the the show was a solid 7/10 and would probably be a 9/10 when part 2 comes out, but it has enough flaws to where a casual movie go'er like Alex would probably not have the best time.
@@silviarr5629I know right. He literally came here to save these people and fully believed if they JUST KNEW what would happen they'd gladly leave. Only to be proven a wrong.
@Funware.mp3 it wasn't 3 episodes worth of voting, though, they simply voted three times. I didn't find it boring at all, it may not be furthering the plot, but it's developing the characters, they're all gladly gambling their lives away. It's a vote after each game because the frontman is showing gi-hun the people want to stay.
I feel like s1 was decent but s2 is kinda universally seen as kinda shit, at least as far as ive seen, so not sure if people would really be super split on the topic
@@fluffypotatocowhuh? S1 is literally a masterpiece. And s2 has so many stand out moments. Maybe it’s not your type of show but for a lot of people it is
Season 2 was so good to me man I thought it wouldn’t hold up to season 1 but they did a great job with all the twists and turns in this season. The Frontman just messing with them the whole season was a great decision to me. Loved the voting in this show where it really gives the people the power themselves more than ever to leave but the idea of winning big allows them to keep staying it really shows that discussion and display of gambling
I feel like you spent more of this video focused on what the show isn’t rather than what it is. It’s kinda unfair to call a show disappointing for not being what you would want it to be, rather than judging how good it does what it’s trying to do. I loved the voting, I think it was don’t genuinely and was both used to prove a point to Gi hun that it’s the system that’s the problem, and that the people will always keep the games going, and at the same time using it to pin the players against each other, forcing tribalism and division between them
I am disappointed that the little girls dad and the woman working for the games never see each other again, but this season wasn't bad at all. Tbh, it seems like you completely missed the point of this season. The voting showcases the root of gambling addiction. Just one more game they kept saying. Except it's never just one more time. It's the whole reason these people are in debt.
I completely understand this was the point they were going for-but it definitely should've been cut shorter after the first voting session. Because at that point, after the first voting, it's hard to be engaged with it when you KNOW everyone/the majority is going to vote to stay. I already know these people have money issues/gambling problems. I don't need hours dedicated to seeing the same outcome play over and over again with no real substantial differences. (I was excited about the tie at first with the voting, until I realized they would just vote again the next day. And if it weren't for the plan to steal the guns and shoot the bad guys down, I'm sure the voting would've went the exact same-they would all stay.) I feel like the time spent on the voting portions could've gone to something else. Like, for example, the little girl's dad and the woman working for the games. Or, god forbid, come up with something to make the police guy's storyline less boring and dragging than just him and the crew being dragged in circles on sea. (Sorry for the long-winded comment. Like I said, I do get the meaning of the voting, but I personally don't think it was executed well.)
@@Wirecree I haven't watch the show but alot of people can't appreciate the art of patience. Going through 100 shxt episodes to see that one good ending really is good than a constant barrage of mediocrity. Thats what makes underdog stories great but no one likes watching all of the underdogs struggle to be that great.
@june_senpai9846 Oh, trust me, I have patience. There's nothing I hate more than something being rushed in any form of media because it always falls flat for me. And I always appreciate watching a character struggle! I think that's one of the most important things in a character's journey. I just don't think the voting portion was the best at showcasing it. And I say this as someone who likes the show. I wouldn't have binged the entire 7 episodes in a night otherwise 😂 Though, to be fair, I can say I understand that my thoughts are completely just that. My thoughts. So if others liked the voting, I'm glad for them! (For example, my dad. I know he didn't find that portion as pointless as me, and while I liked the season, he LOVED it. And I'm honestly more glad that he loves it than anything else-it was nice listening to him talk about how much he liked the characters and etc. and where the story was headed.) And I don't know if you ever want to watch the second season, but if you do, I would like to hear what you think in all its entirety! But yeah, the voting fell flat for me after awhile. I just don't think it was as engaging as it could've been. Edit: Jesus, I really write a fuck-ton. Apologies internet, I promise I'm not trying to start some argumentative essay here 😭
@@Wirecreedoesnt the vote to leave win? which is one of the main reasons that the lights out fight occurs in the first place? the purpose of the voting scenes aren’t just about the result of the vote, but also how it affects the characters and their relationships.
to be fair, the pacing is probably off because season two was originally shot with 14 episodes before they decided to split it into two separate seasons
the best aspect of this show are the complex relationships that blossom in such a toxic environment- i forget the amount of times i’ve cried watching it.
I cried over season 1 but not 2, but I was more engaged in the mind games and plot points in season 2. Feels more like we're building to something. Like we'll see a true war next.
@@mickey_09both tho he’s mainly a rapper and was formerly in the group Big Bang. His stage name is TOP and basically Big Bang was an iconic group that helped build the foundation for kpop. They’re from the same agency that made BlackPink
1) You watched this in English Dub?!!! 2) I agree there were a lot of unresolved plot holes and stupid characters. But I’m hoping season 3 is where they tie everything together considering they shot both seasons at the same time. And the characters being stupid is part of the point of “people will always be selfish” which the show is trying to make I guess.
1/3 of adults are barely literate and read at a 2nd-6th grade reading level. Meanwhile I watch everything with subtitles, since voice tracks are often low or characters mumble.
@@lowbird7947 bro alex litteraly doesnt do foreign movies cuz of thhis specifically, he cant do sub for these vids cuz people at read at different paces and the joe delivery wont be on time, the only reason he did squid gamevs cuz its so massive, WOW youre SO talented bcuz you can read SUBTITLES??? wow u must be a literacy
Gi-Hun is a normal guy. It's not like he leveled up that much from the first season. He's not a spy. He's a normal guy. I believe they even highlight that in an interview about the show. Getting into the games from the outside and taking the organization down makes sense. But him doing that from the inside just wouldn't work. There's security everywhere. It sounds like maybe you wanted a longer season. I would guess that more of the things you want are in season 3.
A lot of your dislike for Thanos comes from watching the dub i think. In korean he does these random english lines which is why they sound out of place in the dub. I didn't like this season but Thanos was one of my favourite parts of it. He's just goofy and I love it
Not trying to be rude but I think you missed the point of voting being so central. It was a demonstration of how in real life our higher-ups divide us and turn us against each other, and give us votes for the illusion that we have some control over our lives. When really, it’s to make us fight each other instead of coming together against the real enemy.
It was entertainment during world shut down. It was okay i guess if you werent a gamer. But the biggest problem I had was that in most asian cinema, they always spell out the stuff thats going on while its going on through speech. They dont leave implication in the shows like American movies used to.
The English dub is so bad. I definitely recommend watching it in Korean with English subtitles. I actually really liked this season. The first episode is so good because of the unhinged recruiter and Russian roulette. I liked the new games and the new voting system. It added more conflict. And I really liked most of the players, including thanos. I liked the ending and I’m looking forward to the third season.
bro alex litteraly doesnt do foreign movies cuz of thhis specifically, he cant do sub for these vids cuz people at read at different paces and the joe delivery wont be on time, the only reason he did squid gamevs cuz its so massive
Honestly..... I'm done watching commentaries on season 2 because, to me i feel like most people didn't get the memo of what this season was about.... IT'S A BUILD UP FOR SEASON 3...which is literally releasing this year which most people dont know. If you dont understand the point or direction of the season atleast research what the director says about the premises of the season so you UNDERSTAND what its about. (This is my opinion, everyone is different and has different views😊)
That's called bad writing If you write a whole book of anticipation and you say "if you want ANY resolution you have to read the sequel" You didn't make a good book
I don't think it was common knowledge that this was a part 1. In fact, they literally call it a whole season, with another to come. There are expectations that seasons tell a complete story. I didn't know until after I had started this "season" that it didn't conclude, and season 3 was coming soon. Further, "research what the director says...." Absolutely not. I shouldn't have to do research to watch a television show. If I do, then it's poorly written.
@@maritofuentes4690I mean it I understand where you’re coming from but it does cover a bunch of context such as why the brother survived (the boat guy was hired by front man to keep him alive and far away from the island). But there’s so many shows that are like 12, 15, 29 seasons long and for what??? It’s confirmed the end of squid game is S3 so I think it wraps up quite nice that S1 leads you wanting more, S2 gives context but leads you on a cliff hanger, and S3 gives a hopefully spud and satisfying wrap up
How on earth didn’t you get frustrated that the main guy didn’t see that 001 was planted AGAIN??? I was HOPING for him to throw the curveball ”I know who you are” but no, he was just oblivious.
He only joins the hype train to shit on the show and get the video out asap. Instead he needs to analyse the actual moments and not summarise of the whole season.
literally I believe it's more on purpose though as more controversy = views, clearly most people liked the new season, so if he disagrees and misses points on purpose he gets more views
I think the reason why he acted all tough than changed his demeanor is because the plan that the police guy and him were planning didn’t go to plan. His implant was removed when he was put to sleep.
I agree! He felt some level of security going in because the plan was to stop it before the games began. Or at the very least, pinpoint the island where everything is happening. When he realized his tracking device was gone and that he was alone, everything changed. He wouldn't be able to stop the games nor would his team find the island. He knew he was going to have to relive this nightmare all over again, and that he alone can't stop people from dying no matter how hard he tried. And yet he tries anyway. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that he'd lose some of his initial bravado after the games began.
They could always vote after each game -- they just chose not to. The only difference was that S1 they wouldn't get the money. Before the final game in S1 Gi-hun asks the girl(Sae-byeok) to vote for the game to be over, they could get out. He went to the door to let them know she was injured and to vote (2v1 against Gi-hun's old neighbour/friend) but then his friend kills her
Hey Alex, think you may have overlooked a few things. 1. When the MC returns to the games, it's not to be a badass. His whole plan was to link the secret location with the tracking device. Once he realizes the device is out, he's in the same boat as everyone else. He also did get his defining moment that showed his change from season 1 to season 2 when he was OK sacrificing players in order to set a trap and get the guns. 2. The North Korea detector isn't on the side of the players. She's doing her job but doesn't want people profiting off of suffering. Also, it's likely her that shoots 246 who is the dad of the sick little girl. So her defection probably comes next season as I'm guessing she didn't kill him on purpose. 3. The voting part is awesome. It adds tension and has people choose sides, and you can see how people switch their priorities. 4. Yes there was only 3 games, but I think it's only fair to include double rock, paper, scissors. The idea of playing rock paper scissors and having the choice to die or kill was wild imo. Thanks for the content.
There's 6 games in this season if we want to include the smaller ones. Rock, Paper, Scissors, to kill the mob duo. Russian Roulette is used when the recruiter dies then the games on the actual island which they showed us 3 plus the "night fight" which is announced like as a "special game" or bonus game.
No 1. He wasn’t going in there like John Wick but the tracking idea was the dumbest shit I ever saw. The second he got it put in my reaction was “why”? You can buy an RF detector from Amazon for 15 dollars. Hell on Temu for four bucks. And not one single one of those cops and military guys thought “hey, maybe a group that has the resources to own a island and a small army, that kidnap people on the regular would find a tracker almost immediately.” Was there a way to put a track on him. Yes. Yes there was. But they didn’t do that, so you have to go with what they did in the show. 2. He was saying that it was a waste because it didn’t really go anywhere in this season, and he’s right. It didn’t. Even if was a set up for the next season, the point is it went nowhere for this season 3. The voting was ok and I get why it was there, the problem was it was also very clearly a mechanic to stretch the time out in order to push for a third season. 4. I give you credit for the games
@@VendettaProduction01 to your point on #3, they didn't need to "push for a third season". They filmed the end of the show all together, and ended up just cutting it in half to make 2 seasons lmao.
@VendettaProduction01 about point 1..., if you actually paid attention to s2 storyline, you would know why Gihun's plan didn't work. His plan was totally fine and could easily been worked out. The sailorman was the one who messed up their plan by giving all of their inside information to them, including the transmitter in his tooth.
@@guhgugguhguhhhThe voice actors for the dubbed version are terrible! You basically miss out on the amazing performances of the original cast which makes the characters better. I tried watching the dub and it was just bad but each to their own I guess. If people can't do subtitles for whatever reason then fair enough but the sub version is definitely better and the version I would recommend.
12:50 you say that everyone took emphasis on just the games in season 1 here, but then you fail to realise that the voting scenes in season 2 where given more emphasis to make people realise the social commentary a bit better. I think you made some great points in this video but overall you just didn't pay attention when you were watching,hence your confusion
I feel like you're missing the point if you don't get why the voting was so important to GiHun and the Frontman and it's kinda weird you mentioned the crypto dude and the trans girl and not the main antagonist? The Frontman just chilling with GiHun all season. Literally in like the first episode the recruiter did the whole lottery or bread thing. The theme of the season is pretty obviously choice. Down to the last episode where GiHun decides to sacrifice the people on his "team" (team X) for a chance at revenge. Because it really does feel more like self righteousness rather than an actual want to save people. He wants to hurt the frontman.
I mean, the plot is definitely thicker this season (2x the amount of characters compared to s1) and theyre also exploring themes such as dehumanization of players as the game prolongs and basically In-ho straight up trying to prove Gi-Hun the games isnt that 'bad'. Also if you think they can fit allat in one season then the pacing would definitely be weird, like I imagine that the 3rd game and the shooting riot will all just happen in 1 episode to make way for game 4,5, and 6 and then an ending. Overall, sure maybe Netflix is milking this but it'll make the most sense on a finished standpoint
The reason the season got split according to director, because the production of s3 is not finished and in the meantime, he just wanted to give something to the fans as quickly as possible
Watching it dubbed definitely clouds my opinion of your opinion lol. Even if a viewer doesnt speak the language, tone of the original dialgue comes through better. With that, it makes sense in the show that Gi-hun devolves back to not knowing/struggling to operate because this wasn't his plan. Originally he hoped to take the Front Man hostage in the real space. If not that, plan b was to allow enough time for the hired guns and the cop to track him to the island. He figured he could take the knowledge of the games and minimize deaths. Well the game runners decided to give him all new games so he naturally falls back into the "I dont know what to do" role while trying to find a moment to overthrow. Netflix not making it known it was essentially a part 1 has led to most of the justified criticisms, imo (also the 2nd in command mobster looks like Korean Mac from IASIP)
Giving it a dislike simply because he judged this show on his own dumb choice to watch the show dubbed. How are you gonna judge this show if you’re not even watching it like it’s mean to be?
Most of your points are because the season 2 and 3 were filmed together, but they had to cut it into two seasons. But combined they will probably make more sense
Hot Take: I like Season 2 more than Season 1, although it's because I am acknowledging that Season 2 is incomplete rather than being a full season. Season 1 had several narrative shortcomings that took me out of enjoying the show (the questionable founder plot-twist, Hwang's plotline going nowhere, third clause?) Season 2 has more characters with potential arcs and more conflicts that could potentially converge to a satisfying climax. It plays deeper into the politics of the characters, because the "Third Clause" never played a large role in the first season (even though it had always existed). The villains were also a lot more compelling and seeing the Pointman in action brought out a sense of dread that no other villain in the show did. I am curious as to how Season 3 will wrap things up the numerous plotlines going for them. Of course, Season 3 could easily mess everything up harder than Season 1 did since it has more elements to juggle, but I like the setup for Season 2 moreso than I did for Season 1, and I hope there aren't any random twists that takes me out of the story.
Alex you really missed the entire message behind the voting. It’s to show how even when you give people a choice they choose wrong (hence the bread and lottery scene.) The frontman wants to show Gi-hun that trying to save these people is a hopeless endeavor, because most of them want to play the games. The frontman wants to break Gi-hun down and destroy all his hope. Which is also why he lets the rebellion happen just to shut it down when they’re about to win.
honestly, everything that's being complained about could basically be stripped down to 2 things: they should've titled this season as 2a or part 1 (because that's what it evidently is) and you really need to avoid that absolute abomination of a dub.
I disagree a lot with the main character being exactly the same as in the first season. The first season protagonist hadn't this "riddled with PTSD but still managing pretty well all things considered even if his mask of competence slips off sometimes because, well, he IS riddled with PTSD duh" thing going on. When his friend said (paraphrasing) "this is the first time I've seen you acting like yourself" I felt it, because it was true! Then again, I watched it subbed, so maybe that has something to do with it.
bro alex litteraly doesnt do foreign movies cuz of thhis specifically, he cant do sub for these vids cuz people at read at different paces and the joke delivery wont be on time, the only reason he did squid gamevs cuz its so massive
You can tell who gets the show , and who dosent . Also Thanos is the most popular character in the season .. I mean you can’t open any social media without seeing Thanos videos
I wonder if you watched the whole show dubbed, cause I feel like that would ruin your viewing experience, especially w the character of Thanos. In subbed, he speaks in a mixture of Korean and English which adds to his charm. But in dubbed he sounds so weird and off. Along w other characters, it just removes a lot of the emotion. So maybe in future, don’t watch dubbed when trying to make a character analysis
So the guy playing "Thanos" is T.OP. he was super famous in a kpop group called Big Bang. He was one of the most controversial people out of the group. The group finally disbanded in 2023. However, T.O.P is basically acting like himself in the show, which is jarring to see. He had a suspended jail sentence for 10 months for smoking Marijuana. He served with the police instead to help finish his mandatory military work. But this season is giving him a "comeback" of some sorts. It was an insane moment even seeing him on the show.
I really feel like you misunderstood ALL of the characters and themes in this season. Like for one, we are NEVER lead to feel sorry or sympathize for the crypto bro. He's manipulative and sleazy the WHOLE way through. Hell, his girl even outright tells him that he only wants to win with her so that he can take all her money once they get out and he DOESNT EVEN DENY IT. Gi-Hun is not back to being wimpy either. they had a CONCRETE plan that seemed so air tight but as soon as they got to the island it all fell apart cuz the leaders were one step ahead of them so OF COURSE hes gonna be like "well shit im screwed.....". PLUS the SECOND game is different from last time so hes completely lost. you DID NOT WATCH THE SHOW DUDE (and PLEASE dont tell me u watched it in the english dub)
the reason why the plotting seemed weird was because they made all the plot twist go somewhere in season 3(the last season). Also they did that because season 3 is coming out within a year that season 2 released
oh btw votiong was a main part in this season because the frontman( player 1) was trying to show the main character that if there is money involed, people will chose that over living in the same old f up world.
@@callmejay2 yeah I'm really surprised that flew over his head when the frontman(earlier before his "reveal") outright said why people wanted to stay in the games. "if I see thee people again, you really think that they'd thank me for voting to go home?" or something like that
@@Tyler-q3k The whole point is that he is a cringe clearly washed rapper who lost all his money to crypto, and does drugs(which is a BIG nono in korea, like HUGE.) He's not supposed to be cool.
nuh uh shouldve watched the subbed version. love your channel alex but this one thing is just not it. shouldve done more research honestly. this season is becoming over hated just because of influencers like u who dont really get the moral. was the squid game ever good ? yes, did this seaskn take us no where? yes, but was it good ? YES. they just shouldve put part 1 clearly and that one thing wouldve changed the whole pov honestly "this season we didnt bond enough with the characters" neither did we in the last season till the marbles episode, this season is just like a movie before the intervel. "they did this and it lead to no wjere the pink guard the ship" OBV NOT YET THEYRE SAVING IT FOR THE FINAL SEASON WHILE TEASING US THINGS NEED A BUILD UP also the voting after every game is a new thing just to message with gi hun to prove that even after given all the money and even after given a lot of chances people won't change and are greedy, and frontman playing in the game did change gi huns perspective gradually he goes from saving everyone to saving few who listen to him and sacrificing few
they should've released one episode a month, season 2 and 3 without break, just so I could stop hearing people say the cliffhanger was bad. It's a CLIFFHANGER, all the plots will be resolved in a few months, be patient.
For the first time Alex didn't convince me, everything about this season was great from the story the games the voting and the characters especially Thanos
I guess you don’t watch a lot of Kdramas. They are not always „action“ based, rather hightlight „internal progression“ of characters. I really liked the second season, and I think most people just misunderstood it completly. First of all, don‘t see Season 2 as a season and more as a part 2. Especially as Season 3 drops this year and has been filmed back to back. Okay, so season 2 is all about choice. Very clearly established by the russian roulette scene at the beginning. Suit man knew what he was getting into, he knew the odds, and yet participated. Even in the end he had the choice of giving up his beliefs or pulling the trigger. He did the later. In the first season 456 was just thrown into the games and was „blindly“ fighting for his life. It hightlighted how the rich take advantage of the poor for personal gain and entertainment. The second is all about choice. The main character is filled with (survivers) guilt, shame and rage and just wants to cancel the games in order to somehow let go of thise feelings. When he is thrown (or freely enters) into the games again, he realizes it‘s not as easy as just telling the other contestants to leave and then they all live happily. Hence the heavy focus on the voting. Contestants WANT to be there. So much so that they initiate „their own game“ when the votes split 50:50. aka they start killing each other unprompted. That’s on the contestants NOT the game makers. Sure, the game sets up the situation, but the choice is still with the individual. 456 „does the same thing as before“ as you put it, because there is not much else he can do. He has to play or die. Sure, he tries to convince the other players to vote NO, but to no avail. In the end, he „finally“ takes action, but he risks the lives of others „for the greater good“ and in doing so, makes an excecutive decision for other peoples choices. So is he morally better than the game makers, than the people wanting to stay in the games? I don’t think so. He is making the same decisions as them. The whole point of 001 joing the game was to make 456 realize how pointless it is to rally against other people‘s choices. Every time there is a more and more „unethical“ choice 456 has to make in order to survive or sway others, 001 gives a tiny smirk. He want 456 to actually understand the point of the games. Personally, I wouldn‘t be surprised if 456 ends up as the Game Maker in the end if Season 3. Either that or he kills himself in a similar way suit man did - as a choice of personal beliefs. Or else, I agree, this season was pointless.
As a trans person I'm pleasantly surprised with how they handles making trans character. I wish they could have casted a trans woman or at the very least, a cis woman. But the show is from Korea so I understand why they didn't. This is a big step for them. I like how they showed how much danger trans people r in just by being ourselves. How much just living our lives could ruin everything.
As someone who hates the woke garbage that’s happening these days in movies and tv shows I’m very surprised at how squid game genuinely made a good trans character, I was rooting for her and all of her scenes were done very well. Don’t get how there’s people who say it’s woke when it has a well written trans character lol. They exist
@@notBrocker I thought u were mad at me in the first line lol. scared me. I was also shocked that not only did netflix make a good trans character,, but it was in a south Korean show. Good on them :)
Thanos when half the watchers think he's insufferable and the other half thinks he's the best character ever: "perfectly balanced, just how all things should be"
Btw for anyone wondering. the reason the voting is centered in this season is because the director wanted to show players fighting each other when the cause of the fight is the system in the first place. Just like in real life.
They be lazy! They only did it for the money. It’s trash.
NO POLITIK
Stop sucking up the tea sippers @@ErwinPPP
You’re at 456 likes❤ this absolutely made my day😂
there's bi choreography like the history of dalgona candy an old guy blowing it and another with kids jumping the boxes. it felt like the budget fell off than in first season it just doesn't make sense, all the characters were so boring here, we had chad doctor a gangster a psychotic hag, and the some experts that have some knowledge of the props used in the games like the glass factory worker. its all so bland here and it just shows the fraud journalism today, they just overhype everything unnecessarily.
Even though it’s not talked about, I actually really love that 001 is directly integrated to the main group and that his actions become gradually more violent and cruel as the show goes on to build up the betrayal.
001 was by far the best character
Agreed but it was soooo frustrating he hasn’t pieced together that player 001 is always sus 😭
Never knew player 1 was the game master til I watched the whole season. They didn’t point it out.
@@irvinnorris7041so you didn’t watch the first season?
@@irvinnorris7041 they literally showed him with his mask off watching red light green light like 10 minutes before he shows up in the voting session lol
that english dub was really a jumpscare omg
also i'm surprised that you didn't talk about player 001 ( the frontman) like i know this season its far from tv perfection but i found his dynamic with gihun really interesting also him being in the games was cool,, i agree about the boat storyline that one felt really boring
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The English voice actors are teeeeerrible.
@@jesss7930no they aren’t. Though obviously the voices don’t fit the characters. It’s way more easy voicing 2D characters than in real life or 3D.
@@Neela-fb6to exactly! thats why its so hard getting in a live action show with a dub
Idk, I kinda feel like you misunderstood the entire season. Was it as groundbreaking as s1, no. But it showed us a more behind the scenes story of the guards and how they operate, the frontman proving to player 456 that the players are no different than what the games are trying to prove about society, and mingle was a really great game. It showed how ruthless the players can actually get, and the death of one of the key characters was so impactful with her crying “unnie” as her last word. And the voting added so much more depth and insight to the players. I get that it was also a pretty slow start, but once the season got going, it was so entertaining
He didnt misunderstood the season.
The characters are just not well written. And the story has many weak links
@@dr.tadashizhang7719 The characters are human... aka plenty of flaws just like you and I.
I think the problem is that it feels like they covered this in season 1. They had a vote, disbanded the games, and players still chose to return. They also had a plotline where players tried to kill players at night to raise the prize money. Given that, it doesn't really make sense why he thought he could convince people to end the games.
I love the votes it really showed it's not as simple as saying "let's all work together" people are greedy and they are a great chance for characters to show their true intent.
@hahaReaper yeah he was sad about how the social commentary of the first season was glossed over and then decided to completely disregard this social commentary of the second season when it was made so obvious.
As soon as he joins the show he turns into a baby? Bro he's literally alone and his tooth chip is gone, and on top of that HE'S TRAUMATIZED!!!???? like it only shows basic human emotions , trying to be hero, trying to save people, trying to revenge and also beong traumatized being in the same horrible place again. I think they did so well in the acting department, every actor actually
that's what I was thinking that as he returned and found out that the GPS is gone, trauma response kicked in. Especially since the first game and sleeping room are the same.
Right. Like he does in fact try to keep warning people how these games work, and has to learn the unfortunate lesson that some people don’t want to be saved. It’s him trying to hold onto what he can of his own humanity and the humanity of those around him. It’s baffling to look at him and think he’s the same as season 1 or that he goes through no change in season 2
Literally what I said😭Why is bro complainig when the main character is borderline realistic
@@platinumrjaythe people complaining and the ones who don’t see past the screen are low key proving the shows whole point. (They don’t care for the morals. They only care for the entertainment or money)
Thanos' rap is funny because he tries to play it cool throwing some random English words here and there and sometimes mixes them with Korean. If you watch the show dubbed in English ofc you'd miss it, since it's your native tongue.
Some call it fun others call it cringe.
@lexa2310 yes, ofc! It's also cringe and thats' the funny thing bc his character was supposed to be like this.
@lexa2310 his character was cringe ( he was high on drogas) , and funny hope this helps
@lexa2310I think it’s cringe to millennials and older, Gen Z except for a few odd ones out are loving him 😂 or have a love/hate relationship with him. Cuz he’s actually funny asf despite being a jerk
@@kaliyahc9171Im a millennial and I loved his characters...I mean he was a bit cringe but his character was supposed to be xD that's what made it funny~ I might also be a bit biased though cause I've been a fan of him since 2008 😂
The show is so good that I didn't even notice 7 eps going by. The actual mindset of someone wanting to be a HERO to save everyone but was willing to change to sacrifice a small number of people at the end of ep7. The contrast of the games changing the main character thinking he can save everyone when in fact he ONLY wants to save his inner circle or people in X or people who listen to him.
THIS. EXACTLY.
It’s written too well at this point for people to truly understand 😂I’m loving this season
If that was truly the case, why was he still against killing the O's?
His intention was never to save everyone or anyone in particular. He simply was blinded with rage and wished to end the games.
And when his plan fell apart, he was left to participate in just the same manner as the other victims. Even more so, as he has been manipulated AGAIN by someone who has came to trust.
Just felt it was unfair to say he only cared for his people, when in reality he ultimately his only care was to stop the people who hurt him. Revenge.
I think it’s not so much he wants to only protect his inner circle but that he’s spend 3 years growing a hatred inside of the people running it. He’s so angry and hatful of them for his mother and friends death, as well as the death of his happy go lucky nature, that he will do anything to end the games, or rather, take revenge on those who have wronged him.
Sure he needs help to do this but I honestly think he’s so clouded by that hatred that he will do anything to end it. He literally even gambled with his own life right in the first episode playing Russian roulette
@@deviouschimp4663i agree.
I feel he went back to his season 1 mode where he now knows no matter what he does, he can’t save everyone no matter how much he wants to.
He is in survival mode like everyone else is. It is sad that this game is war where some people have to be collateral in order to save hundreds more.
His goal into this is ending the games. His goal coming out is ending the games.
Some talk about the ex-marine guy dealing with PTSD at the end of ep. 7. But before we talk about Gi-hun’a lack of development, he is dealing with PTSD too.
Squid Games shaped his whole world view which parallels inho’s world view.
I feel gi-hun has some hope and optimism, but with a realistic view point. In-ho is completely cynical and has no faith in humanity, but is still intrigued by gi-hun’s world view.
I was so taken aback when i saw fans complain about S2 😅 I genuinely liked it and wasn't disappointed at all personally
I loved it, i was so sucked in. Thankfully we don't have to wait 3 more years for the next part!
Sameee!!! I also think many people had such unrealistic expectations about s2! It’s obviously about an entirely different theme and situation than s1 obviously its not the same!! S2 just sets the stage for S3.
Same here but I do agree with Alex about the voting part. First one was necessary but the rest should have been sped up
And I also liked the games!!
Same l loved it
**loud incorrect buzzer**
The Squid Game 2 glazing is crazy
@bountyhunter64 how is this glaze? People honestly loved it, and Alex did miss several points about the show.
@@mal_348 literally cuz not mentioning player 001 who's actually the front man is crazy work
'Always sub >> dub. Voice is always an important part of actors performances..
Sub first, dub on rewatch if it's worth watching twice.
Rarely some anime will have just as great dub, Dandadan being fresh in my mind.
Also, boob bot, and comment copied from Juanico
thats really stupid honestly- if you dont understand korean you dont actually know what they are saying so you are 100% assuming what you are hearing is best for the scene. listen to sub, no one cares, but if the ppl making the show cant make a good dub thats on the show/re casters, not dub as a whole. and i think its smart to use dub online since many ppl watch youtube passively, so to have the language change every scene hes showing means undivided attention, which means less ppl finishing the vid, which means less money hes earning
The sub makes Thanos so much more entertaining, lol.
@MrBelles104 When it comes to anything animated in your non-native tongue, watch an episode of both and make a decision. You'd be surprised how often your preference swaps.
@@kaspas5511 Exactly it is a freaking script, believing that dub voice actors can't reenact that emotion is just dumb. Maybe squid game is not the best example but I rarely see the difference, the actors body language is the easiest tell on the emotion the actor is sharing. The only downside is it might not be word for word.
Feels very bizarre to not mention that the Front Man was masquerading as a contestant to try to prove to Gi-Hun his whole idea of "sacrifice the few to save the many" which Gi-Hun later does himself when he lets many of the leave voters die to the stay voters before taking the guns. Front Man's presence as a contestant is a driving force of the plot this season and it is completely omitted from this video...
oh god exactly 💯
right, I watching the minutes passing by with no mention of one of the best characters, the frontman. I think Alex just didn't realize the frontman and player 001 are the same person
I don’t think that would change his general opinion over the majority of the season not entertaining him outside the first and last episode.
@@Biostar96kinda agree considering he missed the whole subtext underlying this whole season
I feel like he misses so much with a lot of his most recent videos
Did u watch it eng dubbed??? Thanos isn’t cringy with the original language. Most people actually liked that character even though he was "the bad guy"
I washed the dub and still loved him I don’t know
Thanos is written to be an entertaining piece of shit. He definitely is.
Wait he was what??? Him speaking Korean and still rapping his cringy sh*it in English made it even worse!! I stopped watching zhe show twice because he was so poorly written as a character…🥲. Still finished in the end though, so….idk….best moment was when he died, so fulfilling
He was still cringe even subbed, dubbed he's even worse tho
I liked him too
I implore you to rewatch the entire series subbed instead of English dub. The delivery is just so much better and the English dub is heavily memed on for not living up to that and sounding super corny at times.
Not sure better delivery would have ameliorated any of his complaints.
@@bvoyelr it definitely makes the entire cast more likeable which was one of the complaints
"I've played these games before!!" i couldnt take the show seriously after gi-hun said that bro 😭
I agree. I love watching the show in the actual language.
I watched Season 2 twice, once in dub, and once in sub. The dub is not as bad as you guys think, but anyways, Alex literally missed the point of the series. Disappointing but oh well it's not for him!
Alex my guy season 2 is a build up to season 3 that’s why many plot points aren’t finished
Btw season 3 was already filmed and comes out soon
they never have their research before complaining
Y’all don’t understand how that makes a show objectively bad, but I don’t blame you watch sh*t in disguise from all these studios ya don’t really know what a good show is
@@xLamont_ lemme guess, YOUR FAVORITE SHOW is FRIENDS and TBBT
@@londonbordeaux Bruh 🤣
"When season one came out, I liked it alot" (Goes to Alex Meyers video library) (searches Squid Game) (sees that he called the first season dumb) Yup, you sure liked it a lot
Thank you! I started this video, and when he said he didn't really like season 2, but he made a video to season 1, I was like "Did I watch that?" So looked at that video, and was complaining the whole time, because he didn't get season 1. Now looking at this video, and he doesn't get season 2, all I can say is, Squid Game is not for Alex, cause he is wrong on so many aspects for both seasons.
Season 1 was about the players vs. the game
Season 2 was about the players vs. each other
It's like the frontman was trying to show Gi-Hun that the games are actually what these people want, not something that's forced on them.
That’s 100% what season 2 is about to me
Literally, it’s supposed to break Gi-hun
So first season is class wars, second season is culture war (IE the lack of class solidarity facilitated by capitalist ideology), so third season will probably be the author's proposed solution.
But it was forced on them..but in the real life event and the show...
Wasn't that already explored in season 1?
Honestly This show might become overhated because of the influencers misunderstanding the point of the show 😂
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fr tbh
Literally this😭 I’m afraid this video may be exactly that
Istg!
For real.
The main reason this season might feel “incomplete” as one would say is because this season was clearly a “Part 1” situation hence why it ended on such a cliffhanger and Season 3 which is coming this year will be a “Part 2” where we’ll get a lot more closure with like the Pink Guard girl and Player 246 stuff, and the stuff with the detective and his crew, and the end of the games as we were only in the middle of them by the end of the season
Yeah I was damn near yelling at my phone when he started talking about how empty the sub plots were 💀
Glad to know s3 is coming out soon. I thought it'd be another 3 years so I was kinda annoyed as well that nothing was resolved by the end
I finally got to someone pointing out the season ended with a cliffhanger with nothing getting resolved. Yet. Thanks, internet stranger.
I was really surprised that, all throughout the video, Alex never acknowledged that there was another season coming that should hopefully tie up the loose ends in S2.
Why did they have to split the season though? It looks like they filmed it all back to back and it's normal for K-dramas to run for 10+ episodes. It would have been so much better to have a full 16 episode season to have instant gratification rather than have the feeling of being rugpulled right when it's getting good. I suppose Netflix just wanted to milk it a little more before it reaches it's definitive end.
@ yeah I think the reason they split it is because damn near everyone forgot that squid game even existed 💀
Like I only found out that the new season came like a week it was released and it took me a little while to get back into, and I think there’s definitely others who were the same so splitting it up into two parts builds anticipation for the finale, which is really smart considering it’s coming out this year
I’ve found that most of the people complaining about the second season and characters are also the ones watching it with English dubs.
that doesn't take away from the fact it wasn't paced well at all? We're complaining for more than one reason
To be fair, when the games started he realized something was wrong, checked his tooth and realized all he went through was for naught. They covered that really well
The main character being a whimp and not an amazing fighter is kind of the point of his character, he's just a normal guy who got involved in the game, he's not a super op main char he's just a poor guy that earned 46 or sm billion money
seriously, reactors always think he's always super smart, he was never known for being smart lol, his friend was smarter
@@londonbordeaux that is wat is troubling.. he's a whimp and then decides to take on an army of guards most of whom are sharp shooters, with 4-5 people..
@@ChatPOPPAT all koreans have mandatory military service, everyone there knows how to shoot
@@emmii3259 yeah, that's kinda the whole point. This ain't avengers. He really was passionate about revenge and all, but as soon as he entered the games everything changed. He was alone, he knew his only chance was when he acted with the few people. He was foolish, that's what makes him and others human. I really loved this plot
@@ChatPOPPAT that's not my point, but yes, i hated his plan so much it doesn't even make sense, my point was these youtube reactors always expect so much from him when we all know he's not that smart to begin with.
This is what the English dub sounds like, oh my lord😭
Honestly if I watched it this way I would not like as much either
I had to watch the dub version because I watched it with my parents …it hurt. It wasn’t the worst but never again
My husband and I refuse to watch the English Dub. And Thanos was my favorite.
Bru it wasn’t the bad, I wanna watch the show no a bunch of subtitles
I mean, even if the dub was “good” I would look down on anyone watching it like that lol.
i completely disagree that gi hun didnt grow or change. he definitely grew and his moves were much more calculated than in the first game. i do think he made a lot of mistakes still but he is literally unwillingly reliving his trauma so i think mistakes are warranted.
exatly, he grew and he still made mistakes, why would someone want a character to be perfect
I was so upset to learn how many years had gone by and no contact with his daughter. He had the chance to see her and then go back to handle his business and didn’t….they knew who she was anyway, if they were going to do something to her they would have already done it. He either needed to be really vocal or shut up altogether during the games, and when he decided to sacrifice the leave contestants to get the chance for guns😭😭 he should have told them to prepare themselves and he could have killed a bunch of the stay people and just voted to leave 😭😭😭 and if people wanted to come back they would just like the first season….and he could handle it then, not with a bunch of people who at that point had no choice but to stay and play because of majority vote
@@MiaLeeJane nah it makes sense why he didn't go see his daughter. He has intense feelings of shame and guilt from the games. He is trying to redeem himself by doing something to end the games. I relate to him on that. Something happened to me when I was younger and I literally ghosted everyone I knew for 2 years. I wanted to call my mom, I wanted to go back home, I just couldn't do it. I needed to sort things out first before I could face them. Shame and guilt is powerful. Even if it's not your fault you still carry it. Plus trauma is a lot to deal with. Sometimes you know you can only deal with the pain and you can't put on a happy face so your family won't worry about you and you don't want to have to bring more people into your problems. It seems like you just ignored everything that Gi Hun went through in the first season and blame him for not seeing his daughter. That call he made to her was heartbreaking. I've been exactly where he is in that moment.
@@Freya1412And all his shame and guilt completely blinded him. His whole plan to take down the games was futile and doomed from the start. There was no way that he would succeed in attacking the soldiers since logistically he had less soldiers, ammunition and guns. He didn’t actually grow at all, he became worse and he should be blamed for his actions because he had shame and guilt and let it get in the way of proper planning and decision making.
@@MiaLeeJanethe entire premise of season 2 is this is what he did instead of going back to his daughter. Because he wants to save the world. And we all knew that would be the premise when the first season ended.
Alex: "nOThiNg FRiCkiN hAPpeNS!"
The things that did happened:
• Gi hun partnering up with detective guy
• Gi Hun goes back into the games
• No Eul is revealed to be working as a guard
• Gi hun managing to save a lot of people and shows his leadership and courage
• the introduction of new characters
• The Revelation that The Front man is also going to be playing in the games
• more information about the front man/player 001
• the introduction of the new games and where the new players show off their skillset (Like Gi hun's team and player 120)
• that the captain of the boat is a traitor.
• Showing the more rotten side of humanity that is so frustrating yet so true, like something small like the superficial pompous young adults to the greedy selfish players.
• The rivalry with the X and the Os
• Thanos's death which sparks the lights out massacre 2
so basically nothing significant
@@dvlrykIt's supposed to be the build up for the second part, but also, what exactly would be significant to you?
@@dvlryk this is what show is good at, not only deaths and gun fights
Everything was too obvious honestly. Other than seeing the frontman as 001 in episode 2 or 3 for a split second. Poorly written second season.
Who's gonna tell him that the actor playing Thanos wasn't acting ? Lmao
ill have to solely disagree with the first part, Gihun is trying to save them all, fist-fighting and yelling at them to just listen to him, one guy, isnt going to work. Not to mention the games are purposefully going against him and stewing everyone else's anger lol
Exactly, what would he accomplish by punching a guy. He'd just make the frontman right
@@nayaavon5605completely agree
Watching it in english dubbed is not even close to the same thing as watching it in korean with subtitles. That is why people are saying the characters are obnoxious or cringe. The ignorance is getting out of hand
bro alex litteraly doesnt do foreign movies cuz of thhis specifically, he cant do sub for these vids cuz people at read at different paces and the joke delivery wont be on time, the only reason he did squid gamevs cuz its so massive, he isnt ignorant YOU are cuz you dont know how much efforts he put just to make the jokes perfect
Americans will always think their language is superior. What can you do?
@@ctsajeecnanah. He can review and make his jokes using the subbed version. This excuse don't make sense
I watched in both. There’s no real difference.
So the critic is simultaneously "the audience was stupid for letting the social commentary fly over their head and only wanting more games" and "there were not enough games"? Also, yes, the voting IS super important as a part of the social commentary. The repeated voting fortifies them into two factions: O or X. They are not just choosing individually but becoming a two-party clash. The discussions during the voting become a mind game. The voting displays democracy itself as a cynical game. Also, while you say there are more annoying I say there are more likable characters, Gihuns friend and the marine, the trans girl and her friend, mother and son, shy boy Minsu and even Thanos is hilarious, come on, he's one the best characters of the whole show.
Exactly.. also him complaining that there were plot points that went no where.. does he not know its part one outta 2..😭
@@kelnrey and the complaint that the marine/police/military guys, in the boat, are boring to watch is so stupid, because we barely see them, like only a couple minutes per episode, and in their one longer scene stuff is literally happening, they set off booby traps, one of them dies, showing that squid game's makers took precautions against people searching for them, and setting up the boat's captain betrayal
The voting also shows us, just show far people will go for money. The players end up acting just like how the vips expect them to, like desperate people for money. The fact that they choose to do it, is what makes the voting so critical and the suspense of not knowing what comes next
nope, the police stuff was boring and went nowhere is the correct take. We already knew that the team was compromised from the start, since they were shot down following the limo, and the tracker was removed. So it was a bunch of scenes that went to an inevitable conclusion, a failed mission and reveal of traitor. Instead of dealing with where the leak is as a plot, they actually act like there's no problem, and continue sailing around until they get blowed up. Dumb.
Then there's the hours of the organ harvesting subplot. They killed off those "turning the game into their own profit" in S1, with the exact same subplot. Only to bring it right back, this time including the blacksquare. At least last time, there was a player getting info, and that helped move the story along. This time, it what? Got the girl involved in like 4 total scenes?
This season felt 10 episodes long, with story for 4. I was so bored from episode 1 all the way through episode 7 (where I differ from Alex). At least nothing was resolved, so we have that to dwell on.
@@silviarr5629 I think he might think that they're getting nothing done because we get so much content in the game so you think a lot of time passed and that they should get something done in that time, but actually just a few days passed. If you're trying to find the location of a hidden organisation that had been hidden for 50 years or something I'm sure it won't be the easiest...
The season starts with the social commentary of "Gamblers Fallacy", where people decide to choose the lottery card instead of the bread showing how people just keep wanting "ONE MORE GAME" which they believe they are gonna win, but leads to nothing which is exactly why the voting is a important part of this season....PEOPLE KEEP WANTING TO HAVE ONE MORE GAME! even though most people have recieved enough money!
Thanos hate will not be tolerated
He was the most annoying character ever in this show
Thats...thats the point of his character. He's liked because he's enrertaining. Hes not meant to a good guy😂 @dedeferreira98
@@dedeferreira98 thats the point of his character
he was annoying
did bro even get the show lol
He missed the point lol
bro watched the recap and called it a day
Fr he didn’t even watch anyhting
Like the main point of the show is to not like the games, and he’s over here expecting them to keep playing the games
@JQ_Productionsdid you all watch the video? He also said that the social commentary and stuff is barely there
It's almost like the plot threads that didn't get tied up might be because this was part 1 of the two part sequel LOL
This is netflix's fault
Except is a show all that great if it only works once you get the latter half? Great shows are good all the way through. They can leave it on a cliffhanger, but if the only point to watch season 2 is so you can have a great season 3 experience, it just falls flat
Is avatar the last airbender only great if you watch all 3 books? Or is each book good enough on its own?
Even if it was initially supposed to be 1 season and not two parts, why must the first half feel like a drag to get through in order to get to the second half?
@@danieltsiu7383because this isn’t really season 2 and 3, this is Netflix chopping up season 2 into two parts and not labeling it as such
@@danieltsiu7383think about it streaming services these days cancel shows without even finishing them
Not mentioning the frontman feels disingenuous, unless you didn't realize that he is player 001. Also you cannot say that the audience is stupid because they only want games, and the social commentary flew over their heads, and then turn around and say that you wanted more games and the voting is unnecessary. The voting is part of the commentary.
And why would you want the main character to respond with violence against the other players, that's not who he is at all.
He missed the whole point of voting,,player 001 gave every chances to leave the game
Ok, to be fair to Alex. The games were very cool and creative, so it makes sense to want to see more and how they (could) tie it into the overarching message. Secondly, the voting was cool, and yes, it did tie into the message, It just dragged on for too long. If it had been just one episode or maybe at most two episodes long, little to no one would be complaining, but 3 episodes worth of voting that all don't further the plot past the initial vote was very boring. I still the the show was a solid 7/10 and would probably be a 9/10 when part 2 comes out, but it has enough flaws to where a casual movie go'er like Alex would probably not have the best time.
@@silviarr5629I know right. He literally came here to save these people and fully believed if they JUST KNEW what would happen they'd gladly leave. Only to be proven a wrong.
@Funware.mp3 it wasn't 3 episodes worth of voting, though, they simply voted three times. I didn't find it boring at all, it may not be furthering the plot, but it's developing the characters, they're all gladly gambling their lives away. It's a vote after each game because the frontman is showing gi-hun the people want to stay.
I actually love thanos
Me too! And I just love that TOP played him! It’s so perfect 😂
This is 10/10 rage bait bro 😂
I have a feeling that this title will be one of the most controversial on this channel.
My farts are better than Squid Game's farts.
bait clearly
I feel like s1 was decent but s2 is kinda universally seen as kinda shit, at least as far as ive seen, so not sure if people would really be super split on the topic
Ikr
@@fluffypotatocowhuh? S1 is literally a masterpiece.
And s2 has so many stand out moments.
Maybe it’s not your type of show but for a lot of people it is
Season 2 was so good to me man I thought it wouldn’t hold up to season 1 but they did a great job with all the twists and turns in this season. The Frontman just messing with them the whole season was a great decision to me.
Loved the voting in this show where it really gives the people the power themselves more than ever to leave but the idea of winning big allows them to keep staying it really shows that discussion and display of gambling
This season isnt about the games, its about the commentary
I feel like you spent more of this video focused on what the show isn’t rather than what it is. It’s kinda unfair to call a show disappointing for not being what you would want it to be, rather than judging how good it does what it’s trying to do.
I loved the voting, I think it was don’t genuinely and was both used to prove a point to Gi hun that it’s the system that’s the problem, and that the people will always keep the games going, and at the same time using it to pin the players against each other, forcing tribalism and division between them
If you didn't watch the show in Korean, you didn't really watch it.
Yep
I am disappointed that the little girls dad and the woman working for the games never see each other again, but this season wasn't bad at all.
Tbh, it seems like you completely missed the point of this season. The voting showcases the root of gambling addiction. Just one more game they kept saying. Except it's never just one more time. It's the whole reason these people are in debt.
The voting is actual based on the US elections. The creator said so himself
I completely understand this was the point they were going for-but it definitely should've been cut shorter after the first voting session. Because at that point, after the first voting, it's hard to be engaged with it when you KNOW everyone/the majority is going to vote to stay.
I already know these people have money issues/gambling problems. I don't need hours dedicated to seeing the same outcome play over and over again with no real substantial differences.
(I was excited about the tie at first with the voting, until I realized they would just vote again the next day. And if it weren't for the plan to steal the guns and shoot the bad guys down, I'm sure the voting would've went the exact same-they would all stay.)
I feel like the time spent on the voting portions could've gone to something else. Like, for example, the little girl's dad and the woman working for the games. Or, god forbid, come up with something to make the police guy's storyline less boring and dragging than just him and the crew being dragged in circles on sea.
(Sorry for the long-winded comment. Like I said, I do get the meaning of the voting, but I personally don't think it was executed well.)
@@Wirecree I haven't watch the show but alot of people can't appreciate the art of patience.
Going through 100 shxt episodes to see that one good ending really is good than a constant barrage of mediocrity.
Thats what makes underdog stories great but no one likes watching all of the underdogs struggle to be that great.
@june_senpai9846 Oh, trust me, I have patience. There's nothing I hate more than something being rushed in any form of media because it always falls flat for me. And I always appreciate watching a character struggle! I think that's one of the most important things in a character's journey. I just don't think the voting portion was the best at showcasing it. And I say this as someone who likes the show. I wouldn't have binged the entire 7 episodes in a night otherwise 😂
Though, to be fair, I can say I understand that my thoughts are completely just that. My thoughts. So if others liked the voting, I'm glad for them! (For example, my dad. I know he didn't find that portion as pointless as me, and while I liked the season, he LOVED it. And I'm honestly more glad that he loves it than anything else-it was nice listening to him talk about how much he liked the characters and etc. and where the story was headed.)
And I don't know if you ever want to watch the second season, but if you do, I would like to hear what you think in all its entirety!
But yeah, the voting fell flat for me after awhile. I just don't think it was as engaging as it could've been.
Edit: Jesus, I really write a fuck-ton. Apologies internet, I promise I'm not trying to start some argumentative essay here 😭
@@Wirecreedoesnt the vote to leave win? which is one of the main reasons that the lights out fight occurs in the first place? the purpose of the voting scenes aren’t just about the result of the vote, but also how it affects the characters and their relationships.
to be fair, the pacing is probably off because season two was originally shot with 14 episodes before they decided to split it into two separate seasons
And the editors didn't wanna cut it down even more somehow
That actually makes sense
Yeah that'll definitely do it, I hope it works out anyway, I don't really care about squid game but I know plenty of people love it
the best aspect of this show are the complex relationships that blossom in such a toxic environment- i forget the amount of times i’ve cried watching it.
I cried over season 1 but not 2, but I was more engaged in the mind games and plot points in season 2. Feels more like we're building to something. Like we'll see a true war next.
This should be called "squid game english dub is *really* dumb" instead😭 I'm so sorry how'd you even watch this it's so terrible
It was terrible but a lot of us are either blind or don’t have the attention span or patience to read subtitles 😭
Episode 2 to 6 nothing happens? Are you kidding? The focus is on the games and the group dynamics during those 3 days
5:54 “This Dude” is a famous K-Pop celebrity 😂
Singer or ? Band ?
@@mickey_09both tho he’s mainly a rapper and was formerly in the group Big Bang. His stage name is TOP and basically Big Bang was an iconic group that helped build the foundation for kpop. They’re from the same agency that made BlackPink
@@Songbird-jl2jwhow is this dude so annoying then ??
And damn is he a nightmare to look at 😭😭
His face gives me panic attacks now, I feel like I am gonna projectile v0mit if I look at that hair any longer.
@ I think both💜
1) You watched this in English Dub?!!!
2) I agree there were a lot of unresolved plot holes and stupid characters.
But I’m hoping season 3 is where they tie everything together considering they shot both seasons at the same time.
And the characters being stupid is part of the point of “people will always be selfish” which the show is trying to make I guess.
This season was clearly a set up for the final season + meant to break Gi-hun’s mindset
1/3 of adults are barely literate and read at a 2nd-6th grade reading level. Meanwhile I watch everything with subtitles, since voice tracks are often low or characters mumble.
@@lowbird7947 bro alex litteraly doesnt do foreign movies cuz of thhis specifically, he cant do sub for these vids cuz people at read at different paces and the joe delivery wont be on time, the only reason he did squid gamevs cuz its so massive, WOW youre SO talented bcuz you can read SUBTITLES??? wow u must be a literacy
Gi-Hun is a normal guy. It's not like he leveled up that much from the first season. He's not a spy. He's a normal guy. I believe they even highlight that in an interview about the show. Getting into the games from the outside and taking the organization down makes sense. But him doing that from the inside just wouldn't work. There's security everywhere. It sounds like maybe you wanted a longer season. I would guess that more of the things you want are in season 3.
A lot of your dislike for Thanos comes from watching the dub i think. In korean he does these random english lines which is why they sound out of place in the dub. I didn't like this season but Thanos was one of my favourite parts of it. He's just goofy and I love it
Not trying to be rude but I think you missed the point of voting being so central. It was a demonstration of how in real life our higher-ups divide us and turn us against each other, and give us votes for the illusion that we have some control over our lives. When really, it’s to make us fight each other instead of coming together against the real enemy.
"was squid game ever good?"
yes.
It was entertainment during world shut down. It was okay i guess if you werent a gamer. But the biggest problem I had was that in most asian cinema, they always spell out the stuff thats going on while its going on through speech. They dont leave implication in the shows like American movies used to.
@@JohnnyAllstar327 lmao dude, it's the opposite? I genuinely had to google stuff from asian medias because it was subtle
No
@@cram2979 bffr watch it in korean and come back
@@cram2979 Yes
The English dub is so bad. I definitely recommend watching it in Korean with English subtitles.
I actually really liked this season. The first episode is so good because of the unhinged recruiter and Russian roulette. I liked the new games and the new voting system. It added more conflict. And I really liked most of the players, including thanos. I liked the ending and I’m looking forward to the third season.
bro alex litteraly doesnt do foreign movies cuz of thhis specifically, he cant do sub for these vids cuz people at read at different paces and the joe delivery wont be on time, the only reason he did squid gamevs cuz its so massive
Honestly..... I'm done watching commentaries on season 2 because, to me i feel like most people didn't get the memo of what this season was about.... IT'S A BUILD UP FOR SEASON 3...which is literally releasing this year which most people dont know. If you dont understand the point or direction of the season atleast research what the director says about the premises of the season so you UNDERSTAND what its about. (This is my opinion, everyone is different and has different views😊)
yours is the best opinion on here don't worry
That's called bad writing
If you write a whole book of anticipation and you say "if you want ANY resolution you have to read the sequel"
You didn't make a good book
I don't think it was common knowledge that this was a part 1. In fact, they literally call it a whole season, with another to come. There are expectations that seasons tell a complete story. I didn't know until after I had started this "season" that it didn't conclude, and season 3 was coming soon. Further, "research what the director says...." Absolutely not. I shouldn't have to do research to watch a television show. If I do, then it's poorly written.
@@maritofuentes4690I mean it I understand where you’re coming from but it does cover a bunch of context such as why the brother survived (the boat guy was hired by front man to keep him alive and far away from the island). But there’s so many shows that are like 12, 15, 29 seasons long and for what??? It’s confirmed the end of squid game is S3 so I think it wraps up quite nice that S1 leads you wanting more, S2 gives context but leads you on a cliff hanger, and S3 gives a hopefully spud and satisfying wrap up
Yeah the build up can be good, but this one is not, defend it all you want but many find this season not very enjoyable.
How on earth didn’t you get frustrated that the main guy didn’t see that 001 was planted AGAIN??? I was HOPING for him to throw the curveball ”I know who you are” but no, he was just oblivious.
He only joins the hype train to shit on the show and get the video out asap. Instead he needs to analyse the actual moments and not summarise of the whole season.
literally
I believe it's more on purpose though as more controversy = views, clearly most people liked the new season, so if he disagrees and misses points on purpose he gets more views
I think the reason why he acted all tough than changed his demeanor is because the plan that the police guy and him were planning didn’t go to plan. His implant was removed when he was put to sleep.
I agree! He felt some level of security going in because the plan was to stop it before the games began. Or at the very least, pinpoint the island where everything is happening. When he realized his tracking device was gone and that he was alone, everything changed. He wouldn't be able to stop the games nor would his team find the island. He knew he was going to have to relive this nightmare all over again, and that he alone can't stop people from dying no matter how hard he tried. And yet he tries anyway. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that he'd lose some of his initial bravado after the games began.
The voting being added after each game was obviously to prove a point to Seong. Anyone that doesn't get that is a total dip.
They could always vote after each game -- they just chose not to. The only difference was that S1 they wouldn't get the money. Before the final game in S1 Gi-hun asks the girl(Sae-byeok) to vote for the game to be over, they could get out. He went to the door to let them know she was injured and to vote (2v1 against Gi-hun's old neighbour/friend) but then his friend kills her
@emilycanfield2634 I'm aware, doesn't change what I said.
I know right?? People are just missing this point ,😭
!!!!
Thanos is 1000x better in Korean, he’s cringe but far funnier if you watch the sub
Am I missing something? The season isn't over yet. This is the first half.
Hey Alex, think you may have overlooked a few things.
1. When the MC returns to the games, it's not to be a badass. His whole plan was to link the secret location with the tracking device. Once he realizes the device is out, he's in the same boat as everyone else. He also did get his defining moment that showed his change from season 1 to season 2 when he was OK sacrificing players in order to set a trap and get the guns.
2. The North Korea detector isn't on the side of the players. She's doing her job but doesn't want people profiting off of suffering. Also, it's likely her that shoots 246 who is the dad of the sick little girl. So her defection probably comes next season as I'm guessing she didn't kill him on purpose.
3. The voting part is awesome. It adds tension and has people choose sides, and you can see how people switch their priorities.
4. Yes there was only 3 games, but I think it's only fair to include double rock, paper, scissors. The idea of playing rock paper scissors and having the choice to die or kill was wild imo.
Thanks for the content.
There's 6 games in this season if we want to include the smaller ones. Rock, Paper, Scissors, to kill the mob duo. Russian Roulette is used when the recruiter dies then the games on the actual island which they showed us 3 plus the "night fight" which is announced like as a "special game" or bonus game.
No
1. He wasn’t going in there like John Wick but the tracking idea was the dumbest shit I ever saw. The second he got it put in my reaction was “why”? You can buy an RF detector from Amazon for 15 dollars. Hell on Temu for four bucks. And not one single one of those cops and military guys thought “hey, maybe a group that has the resources to own a island and a small army, that kidnap people on the regular would find a tracker almost immediately.” Was there a way to put a track on him. Yes. Yes there was. But they didn’t do that, so you have to go with what they did in the show.
2. He was saying that it was a waste because it didn’t really go anywhere in this season, and he’s right. It didn’t. Even if was a set up for the next season, the point is it went nowhere for this season
3. The voting was ok and I get why it was there, the problem was it was also very clearly a mechanic to stretch the time out in order to push for a third season.
4. I give you credit for the games
@@SnowieShiba not to mention the lotto ticket or food game.
@@VendettaProduction01 to your point on #3, they didn't need to "push for a third season". They filmed the end of the show all together, and ended up just cutting it in half to make 2 seasons lmao.
@VendettaProduction01 about point 1..., if you actually paid attention to s2 storyline, you would know why Gihun's plan didn't work.
His plan was totally fine and could easily been worked out. The sailorman was the one who messed up their plan by giving all of their inside information to them, including the transmitter in his tooth.
somebody clearly made the video for the sake of just making one and to joined the trend of hating it without doing enough research
Yeh I saw everyone's "reviews" and was worried when I watched the show and turned it was still good so everyone's definitely following the hurd
You watched it in english dub..
Exactly
@@kilokay5506 uh yk some people don’t speak Korean right..
What's wrong with that? not everybody likes reading subtitles..
@@guhgugguhguhhhThe voice actors for the dubbed version are terrible! You basically miss out on the amazing performances of the original cast which makes the characters better. I tried watching the dub and it was just bad but each to their own I guess. If people can't do subtitles for whatever reason then fair enough but the sub version is definitely better and the version I would recommend.
@@Skzfairystayreading English subtitles😭💀
12:50 you say that everyone took emphasis on just the games in season 1 here, but then you fail to realise that the voting scenes in season 2 where given more emphasis to make people realise the social commentary a bit better. I think you made some great points in this video but overall you just didn't pay attention when you were watching,hence your confusion
Laaaaaazy.
I feel like you're missing the point if you don't get why the voting was so important to GiHun and the Frontman and it's kinda weird you mentioned the crypto dude and the trans girl and not the main antagonist? The Frontman just chilling with GiHun all season.
Literally in like the first episode the recruiter did the whole lottery or bread thing. The theme of the season is pretty obviously choice. Down to the last episode where GiHun decides to sacrifice the people on his "team" (team X) for a chance at revenge. Because it really does feel more like self righteousness rather than an actual want to save people. He wants to hurt the frontman.
It is painfully obvious this season got split into two seasons so Netflix can milk this show for all it’s worth
I mean, the plot is definitely thicker this season (2x the amount of characters compared to s1) and theyre also exploring themes such as dehumanization of players as the game prolongs and basically In-ho straight up trying to prove Gi-Hun the games isnt that 'bad'. Also if you think they can fit allat in one season then the pacing would definitely be weird, like I imagine that the 3rd game and the shooting riot will all just happen in 1 episode to make way for game 4,5, and 6 and then an ending. Overall, sure maybe Netflix is milking this but it'll make the most sense on a finished standpoint
it got split because it was too long to be one season
The reason the season got split according to director, because the production of s3 is not finished and in the meantime, he just wanted to give something to the fans as quickly as possible
Watching it dubbed definitely clouds my opinion of your opinion lol. Even if a viewer doesnt speak the language, tone of the original dialgue comes through better.
With that, it makes sense in the show that Gi-hun devolves back to not knowing/struggling to operate because this wasn't his plan. Originally he hoped to take the Front Man hostage in the real space. If not that, plan b was to allow enough time for the hired guns and the cop to track him to the island. He figured he could take the knowledge of the games and minimize deaths. Well the game runners decided to give him all new games so he naturally falls back into the "I dont know what to do" role while trying to find a moment to overthrow.
Netflix not making it known it was essentially a part 1 has led to most of the justified criticisms, imo
(also the 2nd in command mobster looks like Korean Mac from IASIP)
Giving it a dislike simply because he judged this show on his own dumb choice to watch the show dubbed. How are you gonna judge this show if you’re not even watching it like it’s mean to be?
Most of your points are because the season 2 and 3 were filmed together, but they had to cut it into two seasons. But combined they will probably make more sense
i bet season 3 is filled to the brim with lore (especially jun-ho and the captain because in this season it feels like they're setting that up)
the english dub sounds like a parody someone would make ngl. the first time i heard it i lowkey thought it was a joke
i think the voting being the main part of the story was to highlight how democracy is flawed, like how the first season talked more about capitalism
this review feels like you went into the show with a closed mined and didnt want to like it
I swear Alex only hated Thanos bc he watched it in the dubbed version 😭
Like that dub actor is unbearable 💀
To be fair, the PTSD from re entering the games would probably mess with anyone.
nah fr planning out how he'd be once he'd returned is very different from actually being there
Hot Take: I like Season 2 more than Season 1, although it's because I am acknowledging that Season 2 is incomplete rather than being a full season. Season 1 had several narrative shortcomings that took me out of enjoying the show (the questionable founder plot-twist, Hwang's plotline going nowhere, third clause?)
Season 2 has more characters with potential arcs and more conflicts that could potentially converge to a satisfying climax. It plays deeper into the politics of the characters, because the "Third Clause" never played a large role in the first season (even though it had always existed). The villains were also a lot more compelling and seeing the Pointman in action brought out a sense of dread that no other villain in the show did. I am curious as to how Season 3 will wrap things up the numerous plotlines going for them.
Of course, Season 3 could easily mess everything up harder than Season 1 did since it has more elements to juggle, but I like the setup for Season 2 moreso than I did for Season 1, and I hope there aren't any random twists that takes me out of the story.
I like 2 more than 1 as well. Not taking anything away from Season 1 just saying.
Im suprised you did not mention the front man putting himself in the games and was 001
Alex you really missed the entire message behind the voting. It’s to show how even when you give people a choice they choose wrong (hence the bread and lottery scene.) The frontman wants to show Gi-hun that trying to save these people is a hopeless endeavor, because most of them want to play the games. The frontman wants to break Gi-hun down and destroy all his hope. Which is also why he lets the rebellion happen just to shut it down when they’re about to win.
honestly, everything that's being complained about could basically be stripped down to 2 things: they should've titled this season as 2a or part 1 (because that's what it evidently is) and you really need to avoid that absolute abomination of a dub.
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The fact that season 1 was 3 to 4 years ago absolutely hurts me....
it took 3 years because they was making season 2 and season 3 at the same time. btw season 3 comes late this year or early next year
real like time passed so fast
I disagree a lot with the main character being exactly the same as in the first season. The first season protagonist hadn't this "riddled with PTSD but still managing pretty well all things considered even if his mask of competence slips off sometimes because, well, he IS riddled with PTSD duh" thing going on. When his friend said (paraphrasing) "this is the first time I've seen you acting like yourself" I felt it, because it was true!
Then again, I watched it subbed, so maybe that has something to do with it.
Alex talks about how Lost uses more episodes to expand the suspense and then gets mad when squid game does the same thing. Make it make sense lol
Its good as long as you watch it in the original language haha
ENGLISH DUB ALEX?! NO WONDER IT WAS LACKLUSTER FOR YOU lmao.
bro alex litteraly doesnt do foreign movies cuz of thhis specifically, he cant do sub for these vids cuz people at read at different paces and the joke delivery wont be on time, the only reason he did squid gamevs cuz its so massive
IDC what anyone says I love Squid game and I’m looking forward to season 3!
Since Netflix loves canceling shows I want to be surprised if this is next on a chopping list
You can tell who gets the show , and who dosent . Also Thanos is the most popular character in the season .. I mean you can’t open any social media without seeing Thanos videos
I wonder if you watched the whole show dubbed, cause I feel like that would ruin your viewing experience, especially w the character of Thanos. In subbed, he speaks in a mixture of Korean and English which adds to his charm. But in dubbed he sounds so weird and off. Along w other characters, it just removes a lot of the emotion. So maybe in future, don’t watch dubbed when trying to make a character analysis
So the guy playing "Thanos" is T.OP. he was super famous in a kpop group called Big Bang. He was one of the most controversial people out of the group. The group finally disbanded in 2023. However, T.O.P is basically acting like himself in the show, which is jarring to see. He had a suspended jail sentence for 10 months for smoking Marijuana. He served with the police instead to help finish his mandatory military work. But this season is giving him a "comeback" of some sorts. It was an insane moment even seeing him on the show.
He definitely isn't the most controversial one of the group LOL -- that goes to Senguri.
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Thanos is just T.O.P being T.O.P
T.O.P being what the Korean media were making him out to be lol
JUSTICE FOR THANOS 😭
I really feel like you misunderstood ALL of the characters and themes in this season. Like for one, we are NEVER lead to feel sorry or sympathize for the crypto bro. He's manipulative and sleazy the WHOLE way through. Hell, his girl even outright tells him that he only wants to win with her so that he can take all her money once they get out and he DOESNT EVEN DENY IT. Gi-Hun is not back to being wimpy either. they had a CONCRETE plan that seemed so air tight but as soon as they got to the island it all fell apart cuz the leaders were one step ahead of them so OF COURSE hes gonna be like "well shit im screwed.....". PLUS the SECOND game is different from last time so hes completely lost. you DID NOT WATCH THE SHOW DUDE (and PLEASE dont tell me u watched it in the english dub)
the reason why the plotting seemed weird was because they made all the plot twist go somewhere in season 3(the last season). Also they did that because season 3 is coming out within a year that season 2 released
oh btw votiong was a main part in this season because the frontman( player 1) was trying to show the main character that if there is money involed, people will chose that over living in the same old f up world.
@@callmejay2 yeah I'm really surprised that flew over his head when the frontman(earlier before his "reveal") outright said why people wanted to stay in the games. "if I see thee people again, you really think that they'd thank me for voting to go home?" or something like that
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thanos, his sidekick, old dude and shaman lady were all testing my patience the whole season istfg
Same bro, same... and did they REALLY need to call him " Thanos " of all things?! Was there NOT some Korean name they could give him?!
LITERALLY SO REAL
I kinda liked the sidekick. His mannerisms made me giggle
@@Tyler-q3k The whole point is that he is a cringe clearly washed rapper who lost all his money to crypto, and does drugs(which is a BIG nono in korea, like HUGE.) He's not supposed to be cool.
@@emilycanfield2634 they had too many annoying characters this season tho 😭
nuh uh shouldve watched the subbed version. love your channel alex but this one thing is just not it. shouldve done more research honestly. this season is becoming over hated just because of influencers like u who dont really get the moral. was the squid game ever good ? yes, did this seaskn take us no where? yes, but was it good ? YES. they just shouldve put part 1 clearly and that one thing wouldve changed the whole pov honestly
"this season we didnt bond enough with the characters" neither did we in the last season till the marbles episode, this season is just like a movie before the intervel. "they did this and it lead to no wjere the pink guard the ship" OBV NOT YET THEYRE SAVING IT FOR THE FINAL SEASON WHILE TEASING US THINGS NEED A BUILD UP also the voting after every game is a new thing just to message with gi hun to prove that even after given all the money and even after given a lot of chances people won't change and are greedy, and frontman playing in the game did change gi huns perspective gradually he goes from saving everyone to saving few who listen to him and sacrificing few
*mess
they should've released one episode a month, season 2 and 3 without break, just so I could stop hearing people say the cliffhanger was bad. It's a CLIFFHANGER, all the plots will be resolved in a few months, be patient.
For the first time Alex didn't convince me, everything about this season was great from the story the games the voting and the characters especially Thanos
I guess you don’t watch a lot of Kdramas. They are not always „action“ based, rather hightlight „internal progression“ of characters. I really liked the second season, and I think most people just misunderstood it completly. First of all, don‘t see Season 2 as a season and more as a part 2. Especially as Season 3 drops this year and has been filmed back to back.
Okay, so season 2 is all about choice. Very clearly established by the russian roulette scene at the beginning. Suit man knew what he was getting into, he knew the odds, and yet participated. Even in the end he had the choice of giving up his beliefs or pulling the trigger. He did the later.
In the first season 456 was just thrown into the games and was „blindly“ fighting for his life. It hightlighted how the rich take advantage of the poor for personal gain and entertainment. The second is all about choice. The main character is filled with (survivers) guilt, shame and rage and just wants to cancel the games in order to somehow let go of thise feelings. When he is thrown (or freely enters) into the games again, he realizes it‘s not as easy as just telling the other contestants to leave and then they all live happily. Hence the heavy focus on the voting. Contestants WANT to be there. So much so that they initiate „their own game“ when the votes split 50:50. aka they start killing each other unprompted. That’s on the contestants NOT the game makers. Sure, the game sets up the situation, but the choice is still with the individual. 456 „does the same thing as before“ as you put it, because there is not much else he can do. He has to play or die. Sure, he tries to convince the other players to vote NO, but to no avail. In the end, he „finally“ takes action, but he risks the lives of others „for the greater good“ and in doing so, makes an excecutive decision for other peoples choices. So is he morally better than the game makers, than the people wanting to stay in the games? I don’t think so. He is making the same decisions as them. The whole point of 001 joing the game was to make 456 realize how pointless it is to rally against other people‘s choices. Every time there is a more and more „unethical“ choice 456 has to make in order to survive or sway others, 001 gives a tiny smirk. He want 456 to actually understand the point of the games.
Personally, I wouldn‘t be surprised if 456 ends up as the Game Maker in the end if Season 3. Either that or he kills himself in a similar way suit man did - as a choice of personal beliefs. Or else, I agree, this season was pointless.
You didn’t need to do all that
@ and you didn‘t either. Yet here we both are! 😜
@@sarahtaavetti why are you acting like you’re in the right for typing like 10 paragraphs over nothing
As a trans person I'm pleasantly surprised with how they handles making trans character. I wish they could have casted a trans woman or at the very least, a cis woman. But the show is from Korea so I understand why they didn't. This is a big step for them. I like how they showed how much danger trans people r in just by being ourselves. How much just living our lives could ruin everything.
As someone who hates the woke garbage that’s happening these days in movies and tv shows I’m very surprised at how squid game genuinely made a good trans character,
I was rooting for her and all of her scenes were done very well.
Don’t get how there’s people who say it’s woke when it has a well written trans character lol.
They exist
As someone who thinks y'all are both unbearable, stop talking like this
@@notBrocker I thought u were mad at me in the first line lol. scared me. I was also shocked that not only did netflix make a good trans character,, but it was in a south Korean show. Good on them :)
@@cram2979 huh?
@@axo4822 Yeah I figured it came out like that at first xD
But yeah no loved what they did here.
I love her character.
thanos is a more fun character and added spice to the show, however I do no view him as an antagonist
I genuinely thought the whole thanos thing was a joke in the fandom, but no he's actually called thanos 😭
Thanos when half the watchers think he's insufferable and the other half thinks he's the best character ever:
"perfectly balanced, just how all things should be"
The half that love him are big bang fans let’s be honest
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Thanos was my favorite. I watched it subbed tho and found his English lines in the sub fun as hell.
@@adammrmcchickenman no he's just funny as hell
@ I’m not saying that non big bang fans can’t grow to like him either lol. But majority of the fans are. He was a good character imo too
Nah this is why you can’t do english dub. Thanos is one of the best characters with the original audio. Welcome to the Thanos world 🤟
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