LeBron closing the gap in GOAT race caused MJ to make his documentary - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2020
- Michael Jordan agreed to do his documentary on the same day LeBron James had his 2006 NBA Finals victory parade in Cleveland. This raises the question, Is this just a coincidence or did Michael Jordan feel the pressure from LeBron James closing in on the GOAT race? Hear why Shannon Sharpe believes LeBron James is the main reason MJ agreed on the documentary.
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LeBron closing the gap in GOAT race caused MJ to make his documentary - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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Who is the GOAT?
Jordan
Ol’ Goat James
LeBron
Goat Jamesssss
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED neither played in different eras
MJ been retired for 20yrs and he's still tearing up the NBA. Greatest sports documentary ever.
Facts
FACT.
He's only played 15 years, not 20 years
Fu.. Lebum and son Bunny!!
Mark Ponsica can u read?
Lebron is one of the biggest Jordan fans alive. He watching just like us.
😂😂😂😂😂😂👍
Facts tho
He tweeted to watch something else last night 🤷🏻♂️
I thought he always said MJ was his idol
@@hooperfam6135 he did
Wait... Mike 3 peated.
Left...
Came back...
And 3 peated again.
And the 6th championship was outta spite. 😂🤣😅
And bill russell??
@@MDUBSPORTS even with the bill Russel argument you still can't put LeBron ahead of Jordan lol
@@oceanpacific3841 or jordan in front of Kareem or wilt
@@MDUBSPORTS So you would draft those guys over Jordan? 😂
M DUB SPORTS When Bill Russell was playing there was only like 8 teams. Stop it.
When you ask who wore #23, everyone will say Jordan. Nuff said.
Big Dave ask someone born after 2003 im sure they gonna say lebron
hot cold so u mean children?
mansonlamps I assumed everyone meant everyone
hot cold you said someone
Ni Ri soo the point is still relevant
Can we just not appreciate the documentary?
ShowTimeGaming yeah man I tired about the goat conversation there will never be a goat because everybody has their option ??
You're taking it too seriously
ShowTimeGaming but this conversation ofcourse was gonna bring back the debate you think mj didn’t want this
Why do u need to wait after the documentary to prove that Jordan is the Goat. I don't understand why this is still a debate. Let it go!
There is no basketball or sports going on right now. Until then everything is going to be dissected. Everything is a news story now.
I can literally see Skip's Lebron slander oozing out of his body 😂😂😂😂😂
When Shannon was speaking, Man couldn't wait to wild out
Factsssss
6 finals wins vs 6 finals losses. What more do we need to know
@@nicholastaiariol2631 i think mj is the greatest but if you to choose a guy because of his finals record is deluded. Because in MJs finals he always had the better team. Lebron didnt even have allstars in e of his finals
@@aajr2366 did you just say lebron didnt have allstar on his team so he didnt play along side wade and Bosh or kyrie and love stop it
@@dark_knight_3304 2007 he had a trash team,2015 kyrie and love got injured,2018 he had a trash team
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My stomach after eating too much cheese
Watch You Melt lmfaooo
🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Watch You Melt try some tacos 🌮
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I was just thinking that when I heard this
Take a shot everytime Skip says "The chosen one became the frozen one" every show.. 365 shots a year.
That clown does say that every show
shannon scares me sometimes with how inlove he is with lebron 😂
Moolah 2K skip scares me with his love for Micheal
Stop the hate
Skip dont love Michael...he just hates lebron
Thebestdadeverr yeah but when Skip talks about how great Jordan is he is right cause he is the greatest by majority opinion by NBA players and the general public. When Shannon speaks about Lebron, yes he is great, but not the Goat. It’s just validation for the minority who want Lebron to be at that spot.
@@thebestdadeverr you mean Michael Jeffery Jordan. He loves him so much he uses the government name
This is the best time to release the documentary because everyones home.
Simple!!!
Exactly
No brainer
No, there was a report that during the cavs 2016 parade Mj gave the go to this documentary. No matter how you see it , Jordan has only seen LeBron as a threat . He’s never saw any other player as a threat until LeBron.
@@RYAN30NEAL that part
Jordan knows what lebron's doin this year mvp season
"I won't mention his name"
*Immediately mentioned his name*
Or.... the best time to release a netflix series is during a lockdown
Nikhil Autar you realize they filmed it years ago right
@@flossysportstv98 he said "release"
Or he heard them footsteps.
It's not on netflix? Have you been watching the documentary?
The question isn't about the release... It's about filming it.
People have been comparing Kobe to Michael since they played each other when MJ was on the Wizards. Shannon always trying to change Lebron's narrative. MJ is the GOAT
They were comparing Jordan and Kobe play style, not the goat debate. Stop lying!
Kobe and LeBron shouldn't be compared to Jordan anyways.
cptsketch13 facts !!
@@knowledgegad1294 PREACH!!!
Kobe vs Jordan was a legit debate these people really think we forgot.....
This whole G.O.A.T. debate is pointless to me. People just have to appreciate greatness when they see it.
Chose a side P!@@Y.
@@stevenpringle9225 😂😂😂😂
@@stevenpringle9225 right I never understood why people comment that , "WhY CAn'T WE aPpReCiAtE GReAtNeSs" just pick a side or be quite.
9 finals 3 rings aint greatness its overrated.
@@mudguts6785 facts
Nobody:
Skip: the chosen one became the frozen one 😅
Got to love that classic on literally every undisputed debate aha. Love these debates!
SB7 go play on the street
Ive made a drinking game out of it, cause he says it about ten times a show. Getcha a good buzz.
Kobe is the co GOAT. I still don’t see it with LeBron.
Rey Parker Kobe was amazing 🙌🏼
That is Skip's only defense 🙊
Stop acting like kyrie didn’t play a big part, in the comeback of the 3-1 series
Jalen Floyd he did but, who got them there without Kyrie ?
Kyrie hit the game winner
CrystalLake84 So? There’s still a whole basketball game before a game winner; don’t even act like one shot means more than the first 3 quarters preceding it.
Ry J Stop acting like both players didn’t need help. Based off of that...MJ is still the GOAT.
Kyrie averaged 29ppg that series and hit the game winning 3 on Curry. Pippen never averaged 29ppg in a Finals with Jordan 😂
It’s official, Shannon finally has gone off the deep end with this
kobe beat 4 all stars in 2010 finals lebron choked againts 4 all stars in two finals in a row with inflated stats
@@cortezmauricio56 not about kobe dude😂
D B it should be though, Kobe vs Lebron is actually a real debate unlike Jordan
@@DB-cf7eo just saying kid lebron choked 6 finals with inflated stats lol
Dragonballfan 25 agreed
Here go the puppets. Smh
Mr. International straight up
Mr. International wdym ??
LeShannon be reaching 😂😂😂
LOL it's now obvious that Shannon knows Mike's the GOAT. I think he respect LeBron's genius and loves him like a son. But the way he talks about MJ it's pretty clear
Shannon is providing an example = he dont have to put jordan down in order to elevate lebron's greatness
TBNV what's pretty clear is you lack comprehension skills
Lebron's the goat *ON & OFF* the court
Onew York EXACTLY 😂😂 Shannon NEVERR puts Jordan down to make Lebron better but EVERY Jordan fan has to put Lebron down to make him look great
Y’all gotta be kidding, Shannon always putting mike down to put up lebron
As a millennial Jordan the goat
Yes sir
Facts LeBron aint finished yet but he could be top 2 or 3.
umar mat as a fraud using Aaron Rodgers as your avi you're crazy 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Goat of what having the best coach, the best rebounder, the best defender on your team to win🤷🏽♂️foh with your delusion
Kingshaka Riley Rodman wasn’t there the first three peat. It was literally Jordan and Pippen. Lebron lost with Wade twice who is better all time than Pippen
MJ knew they were making this in 1997. Watch the first episode and find something else to talk about
🤦🏾♂️ Bruh
Did you even listen to the video?? The producer of this Doc “broke through” the day Lebron made the comeback in 2016 and MJ didn’t sign off on it being released until that day.
@@diamondlife9657 that's been disproven. He approved it in February 2016
How can lebron be the greatest when hes still closing the gap? 🤨
Facts!!!
He’s closing the gap to ppl who thinks mj is the goat, people who actually watch Lebron knows he’s already the goat 🐐
ChrisDaKid17 thats funny cuz over 70% of the league thinks otherwise
Hasani Din TV you see data, and make a logical prediction of the end! King James
@@AskHasani 70%? Make it like 90%
He leads in a easier era ! There’s no defense in the NBA anymore !
This era isn’t easier it’s just more skilled they just make it look easy. They do play defense it’s just harder too and it’s less physical but in 80s and 90s it was physical and easier to play defense cause of hand checking.
@@jimmyb4361 faxs
Shannon has lost his damn mind.
He's completely sane 💀
Too many hits to the head.
Lol 😂
Skip has lost his damn mind.
You must forget that this a report from the producer??
Not Shannon’s thoughts?
To argue that LeBron is GOAT, you literally have to make excuses for 6 Finals losses and justify that 1.2 more assists and 2.1 more rebounds per game is more important than winning.
U literally have to argue that Jordan played old teams in the NBA playoffs 6 times lmao
Deonte Merricks 🤦🏾♂️ just wow smh
That's just what people who don't know basketball wants to highlight. As if Mike won a championship every year
Gary Wade he speaking facts sir
You have to accept the fact that Lebron is doing something that no one else is doing. 30,000 pts, 8,000 and 8,000. He’s not done yet. He’s eventually going to reach 40k 10k and 10k. There a lot of people that had won 6 nba finals but no one is gonna get close near to 40k, 10k, 10k.
Kobe stole ''everything'', from Michael and won 5 rings and even and even an Oscar which Mj never did, so far..
3-7 would never beat that lol
It already beated em
“Closing the gap” bro it’s a canyon.
It’s not close
Keep telling yourself that
Least lebron didnt get suspended twice
These blind mj witnesses is hilarious
😂😂😂😂😂 say it again and lebron might disappear..... say it again ....
encoredp14 Lmaoooooooooo! They really are! 🤣🤣🤣
So MJ fans saying losing in the playoffs is better than losing in the finals?
Idk to me if you don’t win it all then your one of the 29 losing teams that season , Michael never lost a finals , LEBRON has lost many
Lebron ain't better stop trying to justify it
Hahahaha weiiird. I love LeBron but I never hated Jordan. Even if I knew about that. Reality is they pointing out other fans immature, when they're the immature ones to begin with. Respect is earn and they have to learn that first.
No one wins every playoff series, it's just impossible to do so. Just like winning every series in the Finals, it's not possible. Except it is possible, made possible by The GOAT
6-0 in the biggest stage vs 3-6. LeBron couldn’t get it done stop making excuses for him
I never understood how LeBron the King of the NBA and he haven't won that many chips (3 in 17 years)
Won 2 of them with the 3rd best two guard of all time... smh
All 3 won with stacked superteams
Don't tell this fact to a LeBron fan. They'll start saying how big LeBron is compared to MJ. I know!!! The things that comes out their mouths (LBJ fans) sounds like those feminist. They just dont make sense.
MJ Bulls was not a superstacked Team ALLRIGHT
MIKE-ULL
JEFF-REE
JOR-DUNN
-skip bay
Skip gotta say “the chosen one became the frozen one” at any point he possibly can
Lmao... if you have to fight that hard to present your case then you’re not to goat. Magic didn’t do it Larry Bird didn’t do it and they said Michael is the best player in the league after 20 games.
Magic and larry were never the GOAT in the first place and forget abt 20 games. They knew in college he was gonna b the best ever. A commentator said it in live tv.
@@nomyhbk9999 Coach Bobby Knight said it before he ever played one game in the NBA...
Fanboys alert
@@nomyhbk9999 they say that about every great college player
Sooo they ain't announced lebron that in highschool vs MJ in highschool ain't make his team until a senior. Be real lebron is better cause at highschool lebron was a man playing against boys. So picking straws between the two
Skip finna cry lmaoooooooooooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine winning 1 championship against 82-0 team and came back from 0-3 deficit will automatically make you the GOAT.
I like Shannon but he's so annoying when the subject of Lebron comes up..
They started filming this doc back in "98 and was talking about putting it out 2yrs ago. Lbj hasn't won a chip in almost 4yrs. How's that closing the gap. 🤣🤣🤣
😂🤣😂
Facts after that 2016 he didn’t do anything 😂
You clearly don't listen , Jordan wouldn't sign off on the the release of the footage for years. He only agreed during the parade when bron won in 16 ... Comprehension level of a second grader smh .
@@jaz7119 The only thing LeBron has won since then was a Allstar game MVP 😂
@@mike.cdn7212 Jordan so scared of Lebron he had to OK this to be released now. And he was so ashamed of drafting Kwame brown he downgraded a highschool Lebron.
Champions rise up in key moments.
MJ is by far the better player
So true
Lebron took a team that was 3-1 down to arguably the most talented team in history and won the NBA Finals. Name me one team that MJ played in the Finals that was even half as good as that Golden State team? I'll wait. Yeah, champions do rise up in key moments.
@@johnniejay all you lebron fans are the same. Saying because he beat GS with that record. They had great shooters and a good depth but what they lacked was true team playing. Spurs and Mavs won because they had team playing.
To go on your which team was better and the answer is none in talent wise. All your lebron is a glorified stat getter.
@@johnniejay also on topic of finals in the show me case, show me when a star player had a breakdown like lebron did in not 1 but 3 finals. Go on I'll wait
@@adubois528 And all you MJ fans are the same. Literally nothing Lebron does gets the credit it deserves, just because he'll never go 6 for 6 with 6 MVPs in the finals. He even beat a team with 4 (possibly 5) Hall of Famers on it, and all you wanna talk about is 2011
If james ever passes jordan, he'd still have to pass Kobe after. Unfortunately he will still never pass Kareem, Wilt, or magic tho
M DUB SPORTS r I high? Kobe? Over Jordan 😂quit watching basketball
@@TheSands83 maybe you should start
a gs fanboy. Butthurt? Remember 3-1? 😂
@@rdexterityx9574 how you gonna call someone a fan boy when ur name is ur hero
@@rdexterityx9574
You're fan boy of a man haha. You can love something more beautiful than that, something like women. Btw, Warriors handled lebron 3 out of 4 finals. Warriors swept LeBron, they made lebron walk full of shame.
No one:
Shannon: There was never a Kobe/MJ goat debate
Everyone: Kobe is as closest to MJ we have ever got.
Only cause kobe plays and based his entire game off of MJ. Lebron is great, but plays basketball differently.
LeBron dominates both
If they play one on one LeBron would dominate either one
Jordan shoes only reason u no him
LeBron faster stronger can out jump him
I have never, not one time in my life thought LeBron was anywhere close to Jordan. You wanna bring up the Black Mamba, then we can talk. But Lebron??????? Nope.
Exactly!
WORD UP!
Yup. I don't get why some people say that just cause Kobe played like Jordan then he can't be in the goat conversation. If MJ is the goat, which to me he is without question. Then the 2nd should be a player that had that same killer mentality. And could play just like the person that people say is the goat which is kobe
@@AlexWeberg Exactly! You nailed it! Do you know how many players the media would say "he's the next Jordan"! From Harold Miner to Kendall Gill just to name a couple. Kobe actually got there and in some ways his game was better than Jordan's. Kobe was a better shooter and ball handler than MJ in my opinion. I'm not taking anything away from Mike tho because there were parts of his game that were better than Kobe's. Jordan had these huge hands that helped him dominate the basketball, whereas Kobe's hands were rather small. I know that was random but anyways the two best players, hands down. I saw it with my own two eyes. LeBron doesn't compare. Not saying he isn't great but he isn't on Jordan and Kobe's level and he lacks their killer will.
@@donjuan914 nah Kobe is only compared to Jordan because he stole all his moves, plays the same position went bald and 3peated (with shaq). They are similar but not in the same conversation. Lebron passed Kobe way back in 2012 and is right behind Mike
He really thinks Lebron James is better than Michael Jordan lol. 😂😂😭🤣🤣🤣 I’m crying laughing.
ChicagoDefense
Lebron is the goat man, Mj was the best but he was the best mostly in scoring. Everything else Lebron meets or exceeds him, except rings but ring count isn’t the determining factor.
I think he is to
lebron didnt even care about scoring he was more of a passer and getting his team involved and still has more carrer points in the regular season and the playoffs then Mj lol hahhahaha you guys are unbelievable
@@jorahgarrison2594 Everything else like what??? Jordan was a 6'6" shooting guard who could take you off the dribble post you up, he had the best the best midrange game ever the highest vertical ever recorded until Zion came along Lol but if we're going to compare him to Jordan. Then why I can't compare Lebron to Tim Duncan cause he was the best Power Forward ever and Bron is the best Point Forward ever in the Scottie Pippen and Grant Hill before he got hurt. STOP COMPARING HIM TO JORDAN THERE IS NO COMPARISON ONLY THAT THEY BOTH ARE #23 From day one I said Lebron is a 00' version of Magic Johnson who by the time he got to Miami was built like Karl Malone the second best Power Forward ever! Jordan's competition was Isiah Thomas the guy he couldn't not beat to get the Finals until Scottie and Horace grew up...
JohnE bro you know he has multiple defense awards and all team right? He was one of the greatest defenders ever, and Lebron could not handle the defense they played back then, scores were far lower back then bc defense was a much larger aspect. Watch some videos of his defense, plus he lead the league in steals 3 years, idk where you heard this stuff
What's crazy is that Jordan only truly played 11 full seasons in the NBA. In his second season, he sat out almost the entire season to a foot fracture and carried his team to a playoff birth. In 95, he came back at the end of the season. In his first season on the wizards, the dude blew his meniscus tendon and in the last season, he was just washed up and less than a shell of himself. Incredible career when you take into account that he accomplished all of that in 11 out of 15 of his seasons.
Excuses and mkre excuses
@@akaliotp6766it’s literally a fact u bronsexual
Don't know why this is a conversation year after year. For someone who saw Jordan play as a young kid. He's simply on another level than anyone plain and simple
Lol these two dudes discuss their boyfriends every topic 😂😂
@Samuel Brown your joking right
Samuel Brown I think he’s talking about Tom Brady
I'm just glad my boo Kobe is chilling and not in it or ill go crazy like those two
Samuel Brown true I think that part of it is fake. I don’t see someone like Shannon idealizing another player like that
TheChronicDocumentary DreGame lmao low key I think that Kobe should still be in the GOAT discussion
The title is a joke 😂😂
😭
Nant Nyny it’s the truth tho 💯
TzFrank idk why cuz Bron still didn’t have a case over him lol. Media stirring up narratives once again smh
@TzFrank yea 👌 lebron n Jordan should not be mention in the same breath, it's not even close or never will be,lebron is great but ran to another superstar team (wade) to win championship LMAO, Jordan proved he did what ever it took to win, idc what happens Kobe will be the closest to MJ , lebron don't have that dog in him to even be consider closing a damn gap of greatness, I'll let u kno right now we gonna agree to disagree....once again the title is a JOKE 😂😂
TzFrank
You might want to read that article. If anything Iverson’s doc “pushed” him to do it, he really didn’t want to do it either way.
That sniffle skip did was hilarious 😂😂😂
To be honest, MJ is always gonna have 6-0 finals over every other greats. BUT I believe what makes others somewhat better is how you bounce back from losing finals and win it next year! The way Lebron melt in 2011 and came back destroy everything in his way in 2012 is crazy. The way Kobe lost in 08 and came back in 2010 to beat the same Cs, also the way Spurs lost in 2013 and how they were able to get it done in 2014 Is amazing! MJ never lost, so we wouldn't know how he would react to losing Finals, we just know he couldn't get out of first round and how he got out was when Pippen arrived
@stevechen1991 But we did see what MJ did when he lost and had to return from the disappointment and won the championship the following year. He made his return towards the end of that second season of his retirement when he didn’t have the legs to perform at his best during the playoffs and they lost in the semi finals to the magic. I get the idea of wanting to know how it would’ve been losing the finals and having to come back but to me it was a bigger hurdle to fall short early like they did against the magic where he fell short like he had in that series and they were so far away from the finals. How’d he respond? He was in the gym right away working on being in the shape he needed to get back to for basketball. And the result was we saw possibly the most dominant team to ever play in the NBA and that team followed that with two rings. So we do know how he would’ve responded had he ever lost in the finals because the one time he did fall short after he’d won the first ring he immediately went back into an obsession and the team that returned was arguably the best we ever saw. So it’s safe to say if he had lost in the finals, which he was never close to considering he never played a game 7 in the finals, we would have seen the same thing. We also saw his response to losing when they fought the pistons. So we can safely assume what he would have done because we saw that first hand in a different way.
The first round thing is always a misleading one as well to me. Same for all the hate against LeBron during his first years on the cavs. Even the best players need other players to win championships. Just think about how against the Celtics in the year they’re talking about that Bulls team was so overmatched as a team that they got swept, many of those games not being close, despite MJ scoring 49 in game 1 and 63 in game 2. If you put up numbers like that and your team isn’t winning that’s a showing that every great player needs a team. Similar to how the cavs lost multiple finals against the warriors despite LeBron exposing the entire series. People have to get it out of their head that either of these guys won without a cast - the true evaluation is even if they lost did they ever vanish or did they play great and maybe their team just wasn’t as good. The issue with using team accomplishments to argue for individual talent.
Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitski, Kawhi Leonard, Steph, and KD have all won titles in the Lebron era. Ewing, Barkley, Stockton, Malone, and Reggie all ringless because of the real 🐐 Michael Jordan.
The Gooch every team you named was better than every team Jordan played in the finals 🤷🏾♂️
Duncan, Steph, and KD are potential all time top 10 players... no one has Malone Stockton or Barkley anywhere close to top 10
With the best two way point forward in NBA history, on the greatest team in NBA history and the best coach in NBA history....go figure
Kobe won the first championship (2010) at the start of the LeBron Era as well
Lebron: "Sometimes I dream, that he is me, you've got to see that's how I dream to be, I dream I move, I dream I groove, like Mike, If I could be like Mike." 😆
Lebron is way better than Mike
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Lee McQueen your not doing your homework if that’s how much better you think mj is than LeBron
@@ohslimgoody Not even in your wettest dreams kid.
The funniest part is that Lebron actually sang those exact words on video 😂😂😂
People forget basketball is a team sport, not ONE player can achieve so much greatness on their own. To win a chip you need to surround yourself with a great team
He heard those footsteps...lol lol
Skip gotta stop hating on LeBron’s 3-1 comeback 😂
Don't forget he had kyrie Irving help
Jonte Stevenson Find a different comment Bro stop
@SoCalifornia29 yea it sounds bad when you dont add context but most of the finals he had no chance of winning and you haters know it.the only one you can truly put on him was 2011 but he wasnt beating gs by himself and neither would've jordan
MrJones870 , he better than Lebron according to that logic so
Lol Lebron overrated. Top 5 but not the GOAT
Monday - talk about LeBron Tuesday talk about Tom Brady Wednesday talk about Dallas Cowboys Thursday talk about Michael Jordan Friday show talk about Michael Jordan Tom Brady LeBron James Dallas Cowboys
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Wrong. They talk about TB12 and Cowboys EVERYDAY
There’s no sports on TV right now
@Sean Reacts every time I look at. I b like dam
Their very limited right now they will be heavy NFL draft this week and next
It's cause Jerry died is why he did it and L.J hasn't passed Kobe Bryant
Mataya Kurzuk yes he has, LeBron is way better than Kobe
@@kobybrewer3584 in the 2000 to 2012 who was the best player in the league it was kobe even LeBron said so in 2008 2012 u.s.a basketball n game on the line it be kobe taking the shot ...LeBron has more states but Karl Malone has more stats than LeBron so is Karl better than LeBron nope
Mataya Kurzuk Karl only has LeBron in rebounds and points, he has more boards due to being a PF/C and most of his points are because of John Stockton setting him up. LeBron has kobe in everything statistically. Kobe couldn’t win without shaq or gasol, he lost so much that he set a new record for losses in a consecutive 3 year period. LeBron has only missed the playoffs once and also went to the finals 9 times in a row. LeBron has also never lost in the first round. Kobe was also very inefficient and was an awful teammate.
@@kobybrewer3584 those are two of the three biggest categories points and rebounds and the John Stockton thing goes both ways lebron played with two hall of famers point guards in kyrie and wade....the knock out first round point about kobe is dumb lebron was in the easier conference and Kobe went 5 for 7 in the finals L.J. 3 for 6 nobody cares about what round you get knock out only rings...if Kobe was a bad teammate why was player jumping the band wagon to play with him hoping to win a ring
Mataya Kurzuk I can’t even argue with you because if you’re terrible spelling and grammar. Also, Kobe has had over 4 losing seasons and even had a season below 20 wins LeBron has never. I’m not gonna waste my time on someone who is probably 12 years old and calls kobe the G.O.A.T. Because he died.
If jordan the man said those "footsteps" caused him to release his documentary, what is there to argue?
Jordan didnt say anything tho people are putting words in his mouth😂😂😂
He never said that dude lol
@@MoonwalkerKing-gc5jm is that so? Lol.. sounds about right I guess
@@takerfan4ever those are the LeBron fan Boys in the media trying to make it about him like they always do😂😂😂
Jordan had always been curious to know what it felt like to lose in the NBA finals. So he called LeBron to get some insight. 😂
So LeBron wanted to know how to get bounce in the first round
😂😂😂
Lebron doesn’t want to know what its like being the only star on his team and getting bounced in the first round bron made it to the finals twice by himself
David J yea he needed hof to win and when he was by himself he got clapped out of the first round for three years
@@TreyKan999 what's Bron excuse for not making playoffs his first two seasons since thts somehow better than getting swept??
Why do people keep trying to compare GOATs. Can we not just appreciate how good both are and how good all of the great players were. Lebron and MJ are in league and class very few others are.
It’s really MJ who’s in his own league. LBJ is just a great player who has paid goofs on tv trying to make this MJ vs him happen.
eazyduzit5150 u gotta b jokin right?
Furthermore how can you add a man in goat talk when hes lost more times in the finals than hes won??? Sports is about WINNING.. you cant be regarded the greatest of anything when you've lost more than uve won.. individual stats are nice but c'mon man.. nobody wants to have 6 finals loses on there record.. nobody!! But yet you have gyal like shannon gassin up this false narrative.. lebron jumped ship 2 do what?? Win with other superstars.. and STILL lost lmao
You do realize Lebron has won with a championship with EVERY team he played for. Jordan can't say that. G.O.A.T should be able to win ANYWHERE, period. That's why LeBron is the G.O.A.T
And basketball is about team. You sound stupid.
@@troywilliams362 you realize right Michael was a one team player BESIDES when he came out of retirement for the SECOND time on the wizards.
He's also lost multiple times on each team.
He is only .500 while being on a superteam. Hes 1-4 with the Cavs.
It's become an American pastime to see LBJ lose in the Finals.
Jordan went 6-0 on the Bulls. He came out of a 2nd retirement when he was way over the hill to play for the Wizards.
MJ GOT 9 losses before the finals
Did Lebron NOT lose 6 finals that i missed??!?!
Go watch tennis bro.
Or maybe baseball
Of course he lost six finals but the mainstream media getting in the heads of these delusional "Lebron Is the GOAT" repeaters. Especially during this pandemic, these fools didn't get sunlight in so long, their brains are shrinking. Lol
Lebum gets a pass
pretty sure Pops Spurs & the Warriors was better than 90s Jazz and Trailblazers.
I’ve never heard such nonsense from Shannon 🤣🤣🤣
Jezinho it’s true what you mean nonsense
OB LOVE nah not at all g I just rate Kobe and mj higher than LBJ🤣🤷🏾♂️
OB LOVE ion be hating on lebron g
Shannon's new theme song is Quad City DJ's Ride That Train🤣smh
@OB LOVE SSSSHhHHhh. MJ is the GOAT dont even dont talk about it
When Mj left to play baseball, Scottie almost led the bulls to the finals had it not been for one messed up call vs the knicks. They finished with a 55-27 record, 2 less wins than previous season with jordan. Stephen a smith has been on record saying that they would have beaten that rockets team that year in the finals if not for the messed up call vs knicks. Scottie was amazing but oldheads will say he was a robin or tonto to mj batman. LET THAT SINK IN!!!!!!
Sna-Kevin Dur-serp-ent It was the second round Pippens led team lost in not the ECF.... That’s was Jordan’s 3peat team he had and then some... Talk about how the year after Pippen led Bulls team almost missed the playoffs until Jordan came back from retirement
Sna-Kevin Dur-serp-ent ...Wade had the best finals in NBA history Kyrie and Ray Allen took the clutch shots in the nba finals MJ never lost to Dirk who isn’t better than Karl Malone😑..Let that sink in 🙄
How is losing in the second round is almost to the finals ?
Sna-Kevin Dur-serp-ent No one said Scottie wasn’t great!! Even Jordan said there is no Jordan without Scottie!! What’s wrong with y’all in this stupid debate!! Let’s just enjoy greatness in basketball!!
YT just like stev kurr took the clutch shot 😂😂
We're talking about 2 different era's here. We can debate this all we want. But they're both are great in their times.
I love when skip talks about Shannons house wayyyy up in bel air hahaha
They're both great with in their time.
Not to the same degree at all. Lebron is a coward and compared to Jordan, he's a joke.
Tangara Speedgoda how tf is Lebron a coward you sound dumb asf 😂, Lebron is better then mj gtfoh. Lebron would dunk on mj
K Dub Theres a reason yo comment has no likes
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Lebron shoot most 3 points..but still he only have 1 scoring title..
how many final loses does James has?compared to MJ?
well..James is The Goat in this Barbies Era NBA
Can skip stop saying "G" all the time? So cringe lmao
I hate you right now for making my mind focus on him saying that!! I never realized how much he says it, or how cringe it is, until you just forcefully made me hear it. Lmao
He's saying "gee" not "G"
Haven't seen LeBron's Shut Up and Dribble doc, but wasn't how LeBron tried to make Jordan look in that doc that was a motivation for the Last Dance doc? As a way a saying "let me show you how things really are"?
LeBron has always had a blind spot for the holes in his game. Early on his glaringly lack of an outside shot when he was going against Bruce Bowen is one example. You're not the greatest player in the world when the man that's guarding you can stand at the free throw line and leave you alone at the top of the key and not worry about you hitting a set shot.
Jordan was accurate about his early on tendencies. And he still has holes in his game that he thinks he doesn't need to fix.
7:46 Lebron did it his own way like wear #23 then switch to MJ Olympic #6, then modify his pre game powder routine,
Then do a sequel to Space Jam, Lebron did it his own way..... Cmon Shay, now my grandma once told me... she said boy I was born
at night but not last night.
Exactly. The jersey is the worst imitation of them all. Also, Lebron averaged 5.4 ppg in the 2004 Olympics for the Bronze. People just don't think at all.
jeffrey woodruff he was a bench player. Barely played. You’re must be an all star hater. Mvp of the day
@@user-zc3qs7qs8e exactly, you helped make my point for me. Lebron was a bench player in the 2004, they didn't trust him. which explains his 3-6 record including 2 sweeps in the Finals. No i am not a hater, lebron is good but he is not greater than Jordan or Kobe. Anyone that says that he is, i will reveal the truth. so if truth is perceived as hate to you, so be it.
@@jaydubb2005 What are you talking about LeBron in his rookie year literally had the most minutes on his Cavs team. Do some research. LeBron has never not had the most minutes on any of his rosters... And that's Team USA you are talking about, rookies never get minutes in Team USA, it's a team which is full of all stars. Trying to blame a 19 year old LeBron, who didn't get minutes, for Team USA's bronze medal is hilarious. That team had prime Tim Duncan and Iverson. Blame them.
@@Flyhr I am talking about Lebron averaging 5.4 points in the olympics for the bronze to show that he is not on Jordan and Kobe's level. Also, Lebron never entered the NBA All Star Weekend Dunk contest, to further show he is not on Jordan and Kobe's level.
The nerve of this guy 🤷🏾♂️ These Lebron fans are something else. Sighs🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Footsteps been stopped since 2011 in Dallas. Jordan played Plummer but Lebron played stepdads. Delonte West.
Fuddyduddie1 That was 9 years ago dude come on now 😂
@@SoothingSounds-se9ev So what??? Just because it happened nine years ago doesn't change the fact that it happened.
Gabriel Lyles i feel like that needed to happen for him to become the player he is today and if people like u can’t look at it like that then your obviously a jordan stan or a hater 🤷🏾♂️
Quan King it did but the GOAT conversation been done and if you disagree you’re a Lebron stan or a hater.
Quan King exactly. We knew 9 years ago it was over with.
Never saw a guy who lost 6 finals become a goat
Exactly!!!
Not Michael nor Kobe needed to leave to another team to get a championship.
Down 3-1 XD
Wayne Macasaet 6-0 & 5-2 > 3-6
Facts! Keep spitting the truth and exposing the nonsense
Wayne Macasaet yeah down 3-1 I give ljb that status coming back from that lead but he never won dpoty or back to back slam dunk contest or ten scoring titles
@@WayneDaPain
They won a controversial finals after the suspension of Draymond Green, the ejection of Stephen Curry, injuries to Iguodala and Bogut.
A dude with 6 Finals losses is closing the gap, he’s gonna retire the same amount of Finals MVPs as KD and Kawhi in more tries.
you typed 6 wrong
He has more than both
This year woulda been 4 next year think they getting worse? Kd not getting another ring
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@@jaybrick8973 6 for 6
That sound Shannon made at 1:49 tho
Conor don’t throw the water bottles he was Gargling Lebron Man juices
Mike was more dominant as a scorer, defender and in the clutch. Lebron dominates the ball so he pads stats. When MJ was a pg he avg 32, 8, and 8. He played in the triangle which didn’t allow him to Bring it up every possession dribble dribble pass, dribble dribble shoot. He only played 14 seasons and won twice as many rings, nine more scoring titles, Dpoy, 3x steals champs, 6xFMVP. It’s MJ by a mile.
Skip’s face lmfao
Imagine if Jerry Krause was LeBron’s GM. He would’ve cried his way out !
lol dan gilbert (as an owner) was fairly comparable to Krause. However, give Jordan the 06-07 Cavs team and he wouldn't make it past the second round. Jordan always needed a number 2 to get to the finals, Lebron has shown that he can take a bunch of scrubs to the finals (in his 2nd year in the NBA btw). I still think that Jordan edges Lebron, but your argument about him quitting on his team is stupid.
Parth Sharma Compare the Eastern conference when Jordan played to the East in 2006/07. Although, LeBron getting there is a great achievement, Bron would’ve got swept by the 80’s Celtics aswell with that Bulls team MJ had.
Grumpy Kase exactly. He act like that Spurs team was better than ‘86 Celtics. If LeBron was in the West and faced that ‘07 Spurs he would’ve been swept the same. Except he wouldn’t have scored 63 points coming back from a broken leg
Parth Sharma he was accused of quitting before. You act like the decision didn’t happen, he didn’t run to Miami. Left Miami when he couldn’t control the way things work there. Jordan had no where close to LeGM ever had control as player. If it was LeBron he would find a way to join Hakeem & Barkley. Payton & Kemp, Stockton & Malone. When those get old, he’ll team up with Shaq and Penny. Misinformed fxxk
So he didn’t beat the pistons who had been to two NBA finals on his way to see the spurs in the finals? Um okay 🤷🏾♂️
those footsteps of a guy who kept ditching franchises and teams when things got tough to jump onto a new bandwagon. sure
People were having Kobe and Michael GOAT conversations back in the 2008 to 2011 years when Kobe was getting to and winning championships. They always have this in sports but when it settles down and you look at the two careers in retrospect, then it’s clear that one is clearly better
I'm kinda neutral when it comes to the debate of greatest of all time, because you just have so many legendary players of different eras and it becomes really hard to compare greatness. You can make debates for many great players like MJ, LeBron, Bill Russell, Tim Duncan, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem (also 6 rings) , Bob Cousy (who has 6 chips just like MJ), Kobe, Bird, Magic, etc.
Mj was always the best player in those finals. But it was also how he played the game
My opinion I'd that the most dominant player of ALL TIME IS WILT CHAMBERLAIN, the greatest winner is Bill Russell, the beat complete player is Michael Jordan.
Is whoopd
statistics is half the issue, Jordan did more to change the culture and in his era, meant more for the people, i’m sorry but lebron is an all time great more similar to magic but Jordan is the GOAT - a 22 year old
Subverted Lebrons the goat a - 55 year old
Subverted I feel like if the stats don’t equal the success then it’s empty calories. To argue stats and accomplish half of what he did ain’t that impressive
It's called marketing brother. You've been brainwashed.
Goat James
Jordan obviously wouldve broke Kareem's record if he would've okayed the 5 more seasons in between 2 retirements , but would've lost the all time tie with Wilt on career per game scoring average
Shannon...u do realize thay allowed these recordings back in 97-98... like 6 years before lebron even came into the freaking nba lol
Marc. Burr but Jordan never decided to release it until Lebron won in 2016. Jordan knew the enormity of that title and wanted the attention back on him, so he gave the word to release the doc.
What stat, points, rebounds, assist, steals or blocks. Which one are you talking about
Marc, you do realize, it doesn’t take 23 years to put footage together in movie form right?
@@ritty1777 Lebron is great no doubt.... but i'm sorry to burst your bubble He ain't got what Jordan had. I saw them both and it's not even close. The impact Jordan had i never saw it again
Ritty 17 no he didn’t. That’s false reporting. They didn’t get a meeting with Jordan til 2016.
My goodness 🤣🤣 The media 😂😂😂
Shannon is trying to change history. To this day I never hear people say "did you see Lebron last night" in the 90's EVERYONE watched Mike he was/is/always will be the best. Lebron goes to the talent, Michael was the talent, rarely did let fans down and he never pouted or pulled out of a game.
He broke down Lebrons game? By making him go left? That’s the brilliant analysis? Imma make sure Shaq doesn’t go into the paint that’s how id stop Shaq.
Lol😅😅😅👌🏾
H. Dinh don’t do him like that lol
No, it's realizing WHAT he does WHEN he goes left. Anyone in their right mind would rather give up a pull up jumper vs a dunk. Simple analysis but effective. Fundamentals is one area where Jordan kills everyone else.
Daniel Carpenter have you ever heard of the phrase easier said then done? But you are a Jordan fan and won’t understand logic.
See now you're changing the discussion from observation/analysis to actual physical performance. You scoffed at the analysis and I responded about the analysis, not the performance of said analysis. Once you realized he was right you change the arguement to "easier said than done." I'm not a LeBron fan but, despite that, I have to give him his due respect. Stay in context if you want to win arguements/debates.
Can we at least wait until "The last " episodes to start the GOAT comps
Why? Jordan didn't stop playing after the documentary, he was already done. So what do u need to see to say who the Goat is. It's clearly Jordan and it's not close to me
Bill Russel tired of saying Mike got more RiNgs, how do you think he feel? Look time changes my grand kids dont know this they see Lebron. Pippen and Mike great ( But) KiNg is very dangerous and still playing.
Terrance Cooper they only had 12 teams when Bill Russell played and he was 2 ft taller then anybody. He should have 15 rings
“All of a sudden somebody got mad, I won’t mention his name....one SKIP BAYLESS!!” 😂😂😂😂
I was going to say how ridiculous this discussion is, but then I realized that these guys are starving for NBA content, same as us, due to this situation and need to stretch everything too much to make a segment out of it...
This is just another COVID-19 side-effect.
LeBron is The G.O.A.T
GOAT of losing in the Finals lol been swept TWICE and lost by RECORD MARGIN in 2014 with Wade & Bosh.6 Finals losses 😂😂 Has as many Finals LOSSES & MJ has Finals WINS 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@@jaymoney6233 You sound triggered.
@@ZakkuRye 3-6
In the famous words of John Amos from 'Coming To America' "Shannon, stay off the drugs!"
Michael Jordan is not only the GOAT, but he is also the Keyser Soze of all basketball!!
SAME OLD TOPICS. COME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW.
Nick995 there’s nothing going on in the sports world other than the NFL Draft man, give them some slack. They don’t even have to be doing this show cause the entire sports world is on lockdown
kobe beat 4 all stars in 2010 finals lebron choked againts 4 all stars in two finals in a row with inflated stats
@@ritty1777 kobe beat 4 all stars in 2010 finals lebron choked againts 4 all stars in two finals in a row with inflated stats
The Chosen one became The Frozen one!! 😂😂😂 That will forever be funny.
MJ Flawless, Highest PPG in both career and Playoffs, 6 - 0 in the finals and has more accolades thab LBJ ina much shorter career.
9 finals vs 6
@@samuelessien9634 I do believe Jordan is the GOAT but Lebron had to carry the 2007 Cavs, then the last two he went to. I mean it's still 6 he could've won though
I’m saying Lebron did better in the playoffs be won more games to get to the finals in the playoffs. Jordan lost to Boston and to Detroit etc. Lebron led a ‘07 Cavs team to the finals as a 22 year old bypassing everybody in the East. Jordan lost in the East when he was 22
Also I’m not saying that Jordan was bad I love and appreciate mike and mike has a better legacy and prolly a better career but when talking about the best PLAYER basically like who u takin to win a game It’s Lebron
@@lukenoose55 why'd you say "last two he went to?" Lebron carried in 2018 but in 2017 he had help.
so i just watched like 6 episodes of undisputed where shannon complains why everything is about lebron and now he is saying that because of lebron mj relases documentary 2.5 years later.... Sharpe, are you sick or just a comedian ???
Shannon is the funniest dude ever lol
Bro, we all love Uncle Shay but this is a bit too far to say this now.
@@JP-it9vc and LeBum said beating an injured/suspended Warriors team after being down 3-1 made him the greatest, even though his team was favored to win the Finals before the season even started(because he had a superteam in the East), and even though he wasn't even the one to hit the dagger. So is Kyrie the 2nd greatest of all time, I dont get Bronsexual logic.
For real, Shannon off the deep end
Yo Mammas Boo warriors had the greatest shooting backcourt of all time 3-1 lead and the game was at there house draymond played game 7 and LeBron dropped a triple dub which James worthy and jerry west were the only players to do stop hating and enjoy LeBrons greatness
Lil Dooder lmao don’t bother bron haters are beyond delusional
@@dooder6755 once again, all that and LeFraud was still favored to win the championship both in 2015 and 2016. He would have failed miserably both years if Draymond hadn't been suspended in Game 5, along with Bogut getting injured in Game 5.
I saw the title and thought to myself, *this is the silliest thing i've ever seen!!*
On a side note, we only saw 2 episodes...we have 4 weeks left of all these dumb debates! Lol