I worked on initial testing equipment in Zhukovsky in TsAGI in tunel T101. Model IL 114 was made 1:2 and was made in Soko, Mostar & Utva, Belgrade. Testing system was made by Pupin, Belgrade. I am glad if something comes out of new attempt.
Really? I though it's very strong acceleration on the runway when props are ajusted for takeoff and engines are allready spinning at takeoff power. Unlike turbofans that are adjusted during takeoff for more thust turboprop starts with engines at takeoff power output and the result is significant kick when takeoff roll begins.
Thank you Sky. I am a fan. It seems that the Ilyushin design managers could not make up their mind on the product design. We know that ILYUSHIN knows how to to design are aircraft . For example IL 62 , unsurpassed in its own class, even some 60 years ago. Plus the name ILYUSHIN is such a nice sounding name, at least to me. Please give them my message to ILYUSHIN managers: '' Dear product managers, please make up your mind and create something perfect, like IL 62''. The Engineers , in any country , produce what managers ask for it. ... California.
Just as I felt that it was about time to watch something from Skyships. I found that there was no uploaded video... then as I rechecked it suddenly appeared... Just as I wanted to watch his videos hahahaha
speaking of Russian commercial aircraft like the Il-114-300 regional turboprop airliner, there's another Russian aircraft that deserves special mention . . . and that being the Ilyushin Il-76MF-90A multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft, which is a stretched variant of the Il-76MD multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft . . . the stretched Il-76MF-90A airframe would incorporate new turbofan engines, advanced composite fuselage & wing structures, airframe reinforcements, next gen fly-by-wire flight controls, full glass cockpit & new avionics etc . . . only one Il-76MF-90A multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft was ever sold, to the Royal Jordanian Airlines sometime in 2000 . . . the stretched Il-76MF-90A variant had double the payload capacity of the Il-76MD-90A & 63% greater range . . . and that too without the luxury of mid-air refuelling . . . Ilyushin should launch the Ilyushin Il-76MF-90A multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft once again, in current day market . . . it'll compete with the likes of C-17A Globemaster III multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft & AIRBUS A400M multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft . . . or the Kawasaki C-2B multi mission medium transport aircraft for that matter . . .
Thank you for your very informative video about the Il-114-300. I am glad to see that this plane is still progressing. I hope it is in passenger service in Russia sometime soon. I hope it's cousin the Il-112 will return the air soon as well. An update the on the IL-112 as well the new version of the Sukhoi 100 and MC-21 aircraft would be much appreciated.
Skyships, a 1980s resurgence of turboprops designed in the 1950s. I completely missed this happening. I remember the HS 748 which was a feeder liner with STOL properties then in the 1980s the SAAB and De Haviland Canada (Canada De Haviland not de Haviland?) later the ATR and BAE ATP but beyond the HS 748 a 1950s designed turboprop prevalent in the 1950s. As stated, the HS 748 was more a feeder liner than a regional airliner. You are most probably right Skyships, I just can't quite understand the stories beginning? Edit *"but beyond the HS 748 a 1950s designed turboprop prevalent in the 1950s."* Meant to read *but beyond the HS 748 a 1950s designed turboprop prevalent in the 1980s.*
they needed something to replace the an26/24/32. the BAe ATP first flew in 1986 and the lovely Il-114 in 1988! It seems like close corporation was the key.
@@mrrolandlawrence Many thanks please re-read my comment, it must have been confusing as it was originally written? Still 1950s planes prevalent in the 1980s??? Co-operation? Like Concorde into Concordski?
As much as I hate your government, I want to see the Iranians make their own aircraft or in cooperation with other countries. As an American, I want to visit Iran one day. Obviously, as a tourist since that's all I will be
The IL-114 bears a superficial external resemblance to the HS748. Horizon (or Cascade) Airlines in the Pacific NW used to operate these aircraft in the 1980s.
As an westerner, i see the Il-114 as a pretty "boring", common aircraft, unlike the disruptive, innovative, sometimes strange soviet airlines concept. And all this "boringness", this "commoness", seems to be the savior of the airline, that makes it a rather modern and common airplane with relatively little changes on project.
@@nntflow7058 well they have the superjet now that takes its place but there's something about rear mounted engines, more comfortable plane is quieter, only real downside is maintenance. The wing is also uninterrupted.
@@nntflow7058 Only mathematical formula is bean counters, ask any Pilot they will say rear engines, in case of engine failure less asymmetric thrust, less trim needed, the downside is all maintenance cost, the engines sit higher, wing mounted engines are easier to access. Flying characteristics are far greater on rear mounts.
11:22 "The TV17-117S was a good motor, but its low resource, large mass, insufficient power and unreliability offset all the advantages." That's a good motor??? I hate to think what a bad one would be like.
If you had consumed enough of this russian channel's takes, you'd know there was never an outright 'bad' russian or soviet design. All was fabulous, considering the requirements and economic realities of the times. "No matter how hard my horde gets it's cheeks clapped, everything is always going according to plan" - Vladimir Vladimirovich Putain
@@Pumped-p3e if anything positive about Russia is pro-russian to you, then you should stop breathing. Because the Russians are breathing. I watched all videos on this channel. The most unbiased technical channel i watched.
You are wrong my friend. The Turbo prop was well established in the fifties by many countries. The IL 114 is none other than a copy of thr British ATP. Which was not successful. You can make an airplane but thats not enough. Can you make an efficient and economical airplane ? You can also make an AI copy of Skyships engineering .
The one question that will never go out of style in Russia is: "Are we currently on speaking terms with the world and is the world currently on speaking terms with us or no?"
@@emanuelpetre5491there's not much point in speaking to Honduras, Venezuela, North-Korea, Nigeria or Iran. For practical purposes, the developed world is the world.
I heard some years back that Russia was interested in selling this aircraft project to India. During President Putin's visit to India, this aircraft was in headlines in Indian news channels but later on didn't hear anything about it. This could b a very good aircraft for regional indian aviation market. Sad I couldn't see it flying in India.
@@OOpSjm Now SSJ 100 is being talked about in Indian media. I am too optimistic for it. It's a beautiful looking aircraft though. Hope Indian policy makers will get some brain if they want an aircraft of their own.
If they added two more engines and reduced the length of the wing, it would have been better. It could have reached 600 km / h, and they changed the engine.
Somehow we never learned from this video why Russia is trying to build completly self-made aircraft? What happened so that proven western avionics, engines and other tech became unavailable?
A straight wing aircraft, both in jets or turbo props over the years are known to make the plane fly so slowly. If she had being built with swept back wings just like the larger TU-114 of the 50s and 60s, it will help considerably in increasing her speed from point A to point B. That is something airlines will appreciate am sure.
@@iscander_s How would uSsR the insolvent hellhole populated with bums and vaccuum tubes be any better? Today's ruslik empire is a trainwreck, we get it. But still, the present shit show is a hell of a lot better than what they ever had, if you look at ot from. Any source that is not pootler's bs.
The original joke about the IL-114 is on Russia, because the design they copied on this one was the British Aerospace ATP, which was a joke plane in itself!
What degenerates do you speak of? The pro-Russian or anti-Russian degenerates? You can also condemn the current Russian government but still care about the Russian people and nation, you know. I don't think they're being well served right now.
AA country like Russsia does and should have the knowledge and resources to design and build an all Russian aircraft, as has been done in the past. Yes, there was a time where it was seductive to use American engines and avionics, but that does not mean Russia could not again develop this components their selve.
Great to see these initiatives moving forward. I hope once the current crisis passes Russian expertise continues to grow and contribute to the world, unlike what happened in the 90s.
@@OOpSjm As fans of SE know modern avionics are complex. It will take time and expertise that Russia may not have available. I think of when Germany took on the roll of developing the avionics for the Eurofighter and the extended delays that were experiences as they had to learn all the hard lessones for the first time.
Surely if they can make the Su35 and other high tech military aircraft they will be able to figure it out, plus they have pretty much every western aircraft to try and reverse engineer
@@md8590 Time will tell. The challenge isn't a lack of skill and intelligence. The challenge is that Russia was never able to catch up in semiconductor production and became totally dependent on outside sourses. Add to that the the brain drain following the invasion. To complete an avionics suite the Russians will build it with obsolete technologies. They'll get it done as they always do but it will be an inefficient and obsolete aircraft from a western standpoint from the moment it rolls off the line. It will be used within Russia but won't be competitive elsewhere.
those propellers are not nearly as cool looking as the western turboprop propellers. would be interesting to know what the differences in performance is between the two.
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I worked on initial testing equipment in Zhukovsky in TsAGI in tunel T101. Model IL 114 was made 1:2 and was made in Soko, Mostar & Utva, Belgrade. Testing system was made by Pupin, Belgrade. I am glad if something comes out of new attempt.
The best part of riding in a turbo prop, it is loud enough that people do not talk to you!
I love the sound of turboprops taking off from inside one though 😅 I guess I'm just an aviation nerd though
This issue is only relevant for young women for obvious reasons. The rest of us are mostly happy to talk to each other.
Really? I though it's very strong acceleration on the runway when props are ajusted for takeoff and engines are allready spinning at takeoff power. Unlike turbofans that are adjusted during takeoff for more thust turboprop starts with engines at takeoff power output and the result is significant kick when takeoff roll begins.
Thank you Sky. I am a fan.
It seems that the Ilyushin design managers could not make up their mind on the product design.
We know that ILYUSHIN knows how to to design are aircraft . For example IL 62 , unsurpassed in its own class, even some 60 years ago. Plus the name ILYUSHIN is such a nice sounding name, at least to me.
Please give them my message to ILYUSHIN managers: '' Dear product managers, please make up your mind and create something perfect, like IL 62''.
The Engineers , in any country , produce what managers ask for it.
... California.
Just as I felt that it was about time to watch something from Skyships. I found that there was no uploaded video... then as I rechecked it suddenly appeared...
Just as I wanted to watch his videos hahahaha
I found your channel yesterday through the Comac video, I'm on a binge since lol.
I appreciate that you cover so many lesser known aircraft.
Great video as always, thanks!
Thanks for another great video Sky. I always love the ones on the Russian or former soviet block equipment. Keep up the great work 👍
Hi from PH 🇵🇭
Really like your realistic view onto the aircraft. Thumbs up!
It looks a very nice airplane to travel. I hope sell nice to keep the production line open.
thanks for the video Sky, you rock!
Another well-deserved compliment on your channel and your presentations. Thank you for all of your videos.... from a long-time subscriber
speaking of Russian commercial aircraft like the Il-114-300 regional turboprop airliner, there's another Russian aircraft that deserves special mention . . . and that being the Ilyushin Il-76MF-90A multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft, which is a stretched variant of the Il-76MD multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft . . . the stretched Il-76MF-90A airframe would incorporate new turbofan engines, advanced composite fuselage & wing structures, airframe reinforcements, next gen fly-by-wire flight controls, full glass cockpit & new avionics etc . . . only one Il-76MF-90A multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft was ever sold, to the Royal Jordanian Airlines sometime in 2000 . . . the stretched Il-76MF-90A variant had double the payload capacity of the Il-76MD-90A & 63% greater range . . . and that too without the luxury of mid-air refuelling . . . Ilyushin should launch the Ilyushin Il-76MF-90A multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft once again, in current day market . . . it'll compete with the likes of C-17A Globemaster III multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft & AIRBUS A400M multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft . . . or the Kawasaki C-2B multi mission medium transport aircraft for that matter . . .
Great channel, gives open and honest descriptions of Russian aviation where we mostly have no visibility
Skye you answered a lot of my question regarding Russian Civil Aircraft. I hope you make a video on the Mil Mi 38 and the Ilyushin Il 112
Good vid, with interesting details. Gets a like.
Thank you for your very informative video about the Il-114-300. I am glad to see that this plane is still progressing. I hope it is in passenger service in Russia sometime soon. I hope it's cousin the Il-112 will return the air soon as well. An update the on the IL-112 as well the new version of the Sukhoi 100 and MC-21 aircraft would be much appreciated.
It's a pile of trash and wouldn't make it in the western market.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
I know it may take some time. @@wintersbattleofbands1144
Il-112 needs a different engine.
I thought they modified the engine after the Il-112 crash. @@OOpSjm
Hi Skyships, why don't you make as much videos as before? Really enjoy seeing your contributions.
Another great video!! Goodluck to the Ilyushin with the project!!
You handled that very well.
Great video! Love the aircraft! I love turbo props.
Another great episode!
Skyships, a 1980s resurgence of turboprops designed in the 1950s. I completely missed this happening. I remember the HS 748 which was a feeder liner with STOL properties then in the 1980s the SAAB and De Haviland Canada (Canada De Haviland not de Haviland?) later the ATR and BAE ATP but beyond the HS 748 a 1950s designed turboprop prevalent in the 1950s. As stated, the HS 748 was more a feeder liner than a regional airliner.
You are most probably right Skyships, I just can't quite understand the stories beginning?
Edit *"but beyond the HS 748 a 1950s designed turboprop prevalent in the 1950s."*
Meant to read *but beyond the HS 748 a 1950s designed turboprop prevalent in the 1980s.*
they needed something to replace the an26/24/32. the BAe ATP first flew in 1986 and the lovely Il-114 in 1988! It seems like close corporation was the key.
@@mrrolandlawrence Many thanks please re-read my comment, it must have been confusing as it was originally written?
Still 1950s planes prevalent in the 1980s???
Co-operation? Like Concorde into Concordski?
Nice looking plane. Interesting that it has a low wing, unlike most turboprops.
Thank you for your great content. Formidable as always. Greetings from Iran 🇮🇷
As much as I hate your government, I want to see the Iranians make their own aircraft or in cooperation with other countries. As an American, I want to visit Iran one day. Obviously, as a tourist since that's all I will be
It looks very similar to the BAE ATP or Saab 2000. Good looking turboprop.
The IL-114 bears a superficial external resemblance to the HS748. Horizon (or Cascade) Airlines in the Pacific NW used to operate these aircraft in the 1980s.
As an westerner, i see the Il-114 as a pretty "boring", common aircraft, unlike the disruptive, innovative, sometimes strange soviet airlines concept. And all this "boringness", this "commoness", seems to be the savior of the airline, that makes it a rather modern and common airplane with relatively little changes on project.
Thanks sky, excellent content as always. If you don't mind me asking, could you please do a video on the IL 276 and TU 330 projects. Thank you again.
No
I really wanted the Tu-334 to take off, it is a nice aircraft, hope to see a modernization.
Nope.
Over weight like most shortened versions of larger aircraft.
The problem with many aviation fans is the fact that they relies on their feelings too much in a field dependent on a hard cold mathemathic formula.
@@nntflow7058 well they have the superjet now that takes its place but there's something about rear mounted engines, more comfortable plane is quieter, only real downside is maintenance. The wing is also uninterrupted.
@@super_slav91 Again, feelings and not mathematic formulas.
@@nntflow7058 Only mathematical formula is bean counters, ask any Pilot they will say rear engines, in case of engine failure less asymmetric thrust, less trim needed, the downside is all maintenance cost, the engines sit higher, wing mounted engines are easier to access. Flying characteristics are far greater on rear mounts.
I would defy anyone to tell it apart from the BA-ATP though...
It really looks like an British Aerospace ATP. Those used to fly a lot in the island I'm from so its a striking similar design.
This design is typical for more turboprop regionals.
Sky… great as always!!
Great video. Also nice to briefly see Eastern Airlines footage.
Nice video on the aircraft, thank you!
Verry good
Airplane
I like those future concepts shown towards the end
11:22 "The TV17-117S was a good motor, but its low resource, large mass, insufficient power and unreliability offset all the advantages." That's a good motor??? I hate to think what a bad one would be like.
If you had consumed enough of this russian channel's takes, you'd know there was never an outright 'bad' russian or soviet design. All was fabulous, considering the requirements and economic realities of the times. "No matter how hard my horde gets it's cheeks clapped, everything is always going according to plan" - Vladimir Vladimirovich Putain
Meaning it offset its loitering time which is all it had going for it.
Just a translation of "all the pros are outweighed by the cons"
@@Pumped-p3e if anything positive about Russia is pro-russian to you, then you should stop breathing. Because the Russians are breathing. I watched all videos on this channel. The most unbiased technical channel i watched.
I would love to see more helicopter stories like the mill 117a3 ?
You are wrong my friend.
The Turbo prop was well established in the fifties by many countries.
The IL 114 is none other than a copy of thr British ATP.
Which was not successful.
You can make an airplane but thats not enough. Can you make an efficient and economical airplane ?
You can also make an AI copy of Skyships engineering .
A beautiful aircraft
Very interesting! 🛩 💙 🛩
I can't see this selling in volume.
The one question that will never go out of style in Russia is: "Are we currently on speaking terms with the world and is the world currently on speaking terms with us or no?"
Im the hopes of a much more peaceful world, I hope this question will at some point in time go out of style and everyone gets along with each other.
Only if you’re american and you think the ‘world’ is basically USA and some of its colonies
@@emanuelpetre5491there's not much point in speaking to Honduras, Venezuela, North-Korea, Nigeria or Iran.
For practical purposes, the developed world is the world.
Putin really screwed the pooch invading Ukraine. The world was at least tolerating Russian bullshit and trade was decent.
Define world. Morally bankrupt west is just a small part of it.
It is still a newer aircraft than all the 737's out there. Every 737 is still the same thing from the 60s
That's one Beautiful Aircraft
What a super aircraft
Good luck 🎉. Hope we will see it in the skies soon.
good video!
How did it take of with neither of the propellers spinning, I didn't think a TP had enough efflux thrust to propel the plane.
Work 5 and 125 :-) destination to destination.serviced.
She's a pretty plane, and she needs a proper series life. There is always a home for a C-47 sized aircraft, much like the Il-114.
Marvelous USSR engineering!
Please resume Tupolev 144 production as well?
Hello from Toronto .
Another Excellent Video !!!
She's a beautiful bird.
I heard some years back that Russia was interested in selling this aircraft project to India.
During President Putin's visit to India, this aircraft was in headlines in Indian news channels but later on didn't hear anything about it.
This could b a very good aircraft for regional indian aviation market.
Sad I couldn't see it flying in India.
India didn't want to pay the asking price.
@@OOpSjm Now SSJ 100 is being talked about in Indian media.
I am too optimistic for it. It's a beautiful looking aircraft though.
Hope Indian policy makers will get some brain if they want an aircraft of their own.
The multiple slotted flaps should provide field performance superior to the western competition, now that they can be fully deployed
Love turboprops
Its a very aesthetically pleasing plane to look at!
You need to do a video on AN-124 Ruslan.
If they added two more engines and reduced the length of the wing, it would have been better. It could have reached 600 km / h, and they changed the engine.
How much does this have in common with the Il-14
A plus of England :-)
Somehow we never learned from this video why Russia is trying to build completly self-made aircraft? What happened so that proven western avionics, engines and other tech became unavailable?
@mipmipmipmipmip go be political somewhere else nicely please
A straight wing aircraft, both in jets or turbo props over the years are known to make the plane fly so slowly. If she had being built with swept back wings just like the larger TU-114 of the 50s and 60s, it will help considerably in increasing her speed from point A to point B. That is something airlines will appreciate am sure.
For regional use, the straight wing is better for shorter runways.
The military use focuses on short takeoff runs and longer loiter times which are provided by the straight wing.
Another superior potential pantomime achievement from the Kingdom of The Dwarf Tzar! “It is expected to dominate!”
I christen her….Airmata!
Sadly it's going to dominate only the isolated market of Russian Federation...
Sorry but Airmata is taken by the Su-69 "Putin's black belt" Airmata
IL 114? Same company as IL-2 in WW2?
Yes!
i dont care who makes them turbine aircraft are the greatest even overshadowing all types of jets for me.
When's the new il96 gonna fly?
Seems that the USSR came back, and not only within aviation. All the best, with this oldtimer, in fresh paint....
They also brought back the late stage USSR economy
Including their winning foreign policy.
Now even more stroNk as it comes with Mr. Vladimirovich "4d chess" Putter at the helm 💪💤🇷🇺💤💪🇷🇺💪🚀
I wish it was "USSR came back", but it actually closer to "Russian Empire came back"
@@iscander_s How would uSsR the insolvent hellhole populated with bums and vaccuum tubes be any better? Today's ruslik empire is a trainwreck, we get it. But still, the present shit show is a hell of a lot better than what they ever had, if you look at ot from. Any source that is not pootler's bs.
The original joke about the IL-114 is on Russia, because the design they copied on this one was the British Aerospace ATP, which was a joke plane in itself!
This seems like the spitting image of a SAAB 340.
What else is a low wing 2 engine turbo prop supposed to look like?
So many degenerates in comment section. I feel bad for them.
What degenerates do you speak of? The pro-Russian or anti-Russian degenerates? You can also condemn the current Russian government but still care about the Russian people and nation, you know. I don't think they're being well served right now.
@@HC-cb4ypWell said sir
Yes, many butthurt children in the comments.
AA country like Russsia does and should have the knowledge and resources to design and build an all Russian aircraft, as has been done in the past.
Yes, there was a time where it was seductive to use American engines and avionics, but that does not mean Russia could not again develop this components their selve.
Waiting for sj 100 videos
I had wanted them to convert to composite wing and wing box. They would reduce weight but still be able to maintain wing lift capacity.
Im early nice
Happy to see Russian aeronautic industry is resilent and resisting snactions
Yes it crate air for u.
Reminds me of the SAAB 340, or maybe even the Hawker Siddeley Andover.
Looks promising, although power still seems to small and the crusing speed to.
Great to see these initiatives moving forward. I hope once the current crisis passes Russian expertise continues to grow and contribute to the world, unlike what happened in the 90s.
Russian expertise, as you call it, has generally just stolen shit from the west.
The need to develop avionics within Russia will unfortunately be the IL-114-300 Achilles heel.
Why ?
How so?
@@OOpSjm As fans of SE know modern avionics are complex. It will take time and expertise that Russia may not have available. I think of when Germany took on the roll of developing the avionics for the Eurofighter and the extended delays that were experiences as they had to learn all the hard lessones for the first time.
Surely if they can make the Su35 and other high tech military aircraft they will be able to figure it out, plus they have pretty much every western aircraft to try and reverse engineer
@@md8590 Time will tell. The challenge isn't a lack of skill and intelligence. The challenge is that Russia was never able to catch up in semiconductor production and became totally dependent on outside sourses. Add to that the the brain drain following the invasion. To complete an avionics suite the Russians will build it with obsolete technologies. They'll get it done as they always do but it will be an inefficient and obsolete aircraft from a western standpoint from the moment it rolls off the line. It will be used within Russia but won't be competitive elsewhere.
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this plane is stronger,safer,truster than tu 134
I cannot believe how bad the original was. Ilyushin seemed to always get it right from the get go
Always good to see Russia pushing itself forward.
Russia has fantastic engineers, they'll do fine.
Very practical airplane..will make Russian
airplane industry more independent..
And you no longer need aviation museums 😂
These fold unfolt at sites :-)
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those propellers are not nearly as cool looking as the western turboprop propellers. would be interesting to know what the differences in performance is between the two.
3 sitely 1 and 2 careful designed
4:30 or BAe ATP at 78.3sq/m
Looks like a copy of the BAE ATP
Thought it was a Saab 2000 at first lol
I wonder if Western Airlines would ever consider looking to buying Russian Built aircraft...especially countries like Australia
0:34 glitch in the matrix graphics.